Jorge Posada to the DL

Draft Tidbits
Amid injuries, starting pitchers must step up

There’s not much detail but WFAN is reporting that Jorge Posada has been placed on the 15-day DL. We’ll have more info as it comes along.

Unrelated Addendum: Apparently, a riot nearly erupted last night at Yankee Stadium when a big crowd of fans who were told the game was postponed last night were denied reentry. If you were among those fans and are willing to share your story, shoot Ben an e-mail at ben at riveraveblues dot com. We’ll have a bit more on this later.

Draft Tidbits
Amid injuries, starting pitchers must step up
  • steve (different one)

    awesome!!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Cervelli up, I assume?

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      And hopefully Juan Miranda. We need a pinch hitter with Jose Molina as the starting catcher.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        True. Back to a 7 man bullpen, then?

        1-SS Jeter (R)
        2-LF Damon (L)
        3-1B Tex (S)
        4-DH Matsui (L)
        5-RF Swisher (S)
        6-2B Canó (L)
        7-CF Melky (S)
        8-C Molina (R)
        9-3B Peña (S)

        Bench:
        C-Cervelli (S)
        UTI-Berroa (R)
        4th OF-Gardner (L)
        PH-Miranda (L)

        And when Nails comes back, he replaces Peña who becomes the UTI, Berroa is DFA’d, Nails hits 4th and everybody moves down a peg (except for Melky, who leapfrogs Molina/Cervelli and bats 9th?

        • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

          Do they have to DFA Berroa? A Rod is not on the 40-man. Or does Berroa not have any options?

          In any event, they may need a place on the 40-man if they think that one of the AAA catchers would be a significant upgrade over Cervelli.

          • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

            Duh on me. I meant to say that A Rod isn’t on the 60-day DL. Sorry.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yes, ARod coming back doesn’t require a 40-man move, but Berroa is a vet with enough service time that he can’t just be optioned or otherwise sent to the minors, I believe, he has to be assigned to the minors, an assignment he can refuse (but probably wouldn’t.)

              Did I get that wrong?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            In any event, they may need a place on the 40-man if they think that one of the AAA catchers would be a significant upgrade over Cervelli.

            This is a good point.

            After ARod does come back, I wouldn’t be surprised if Berroa is removed from the 40-man at some point (after we’re sure that ARod is okay) and maybe Pillitere is added if Posada looks like he may need a month or so.

  • Frank

    Can we get a backup catcher for Veras?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      If you were a GM, would you give up a backup catcher for Jose Veras? Jose Veras types grow on trees; backup catchers do not.

      • Ed

        Jeff Kennard was worthless when we traded him for Molina. He was on what, his 5th year of AA when he was traded?

        Veras has at least had spurts of success in the majors.

        Molina is pretty good for a backup catcher – much better than the Chris Stewart, Sal Fasano, Wil Nieves, Chad Moeller, etc guys that we’ve seen around in recent years. If Kennard is enough to get him, I’d think Veras would be an overpayment for a backup catcher.

    • jsbrendog

      we have a backup catcher. his name is jose molina. his name IS JOSE MOLINA!

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

        This is my Molina. There are many Molinas like him but this one is mine.

        (My buddies and I call Molina “Charlene”.)

        • jsbrendog

          well played

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          IETC.

          And yes, I also bet ARod is the kind of guy who would (phrase redacted due to FCC regulations) and not even have the common courtesy to give him a reach-around.

          • jsbrendog

            (phrase redacted due to FCC regulations)

            huh?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              It was self censorship. Just trying to keep it semi-clean on behalf of RAB, don’t want to shock the faint of heart.

        • dkidd

          this is my rifle, this is my molina
          this is for fighting, this is for suppressing my opponents running game

        • dkidd

          related note: papelbon is a not a human fucking being. he is a grabastic piece of amphibian shit

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

            related note: papelbon Papelfuck is a not a human fucking being. he is a grabastic piece of amphibian shit

            Please call it by its proper name.

            • bizarrojamie

              I call him Papeldouche. My husband had a great time laughing at me for that last night.

              • Sweet Dick Willie

                I call him Pap Smear

              • cult of basebaal

                i prefer “Private Pyle”

                just imagine him glaring beneath his cap while going, “I LIVE … IN A WORLD OF SHIT!”

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          In a related story:

          Full Metal Jacket >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scarface

      • Lance

        You are not your f***ing pinstripes.

    • http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif Expired Milk

      Of a A ball team?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Take a look at what other middle reliever types are traded for around the league. They fetch PBTNL’s and future considerationses.

      • Chris P.

        Maybe Veras should be our backup catcher. He’s got a strong arm and can’t pitch………

        • Dave M

          He’d probably throw it into CF on SB attempts.

  • http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif Expired Milk

    Teh season iz over!!!1!!11

    Looks forward to football camp…

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

    Well, this sucks.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

      Seriously, I’m real worried about this. I’m glad it’s only a 15-Day job but even 15 days of Molina/Cervelli is pretty iffy.

      • Chris

        Unless they need the 40-man spot, they won’t put him on the 60 day DL, even if he’s really badly injured.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    There were a bunch of people on my twitter list at the game last night…

    Hamstrings suck. Why do we need them, anyway? What’d they ever do for us? Besides the whole walking thing?

    • seanc

      “I am Jorge’s hamstring. I get effed-up so Yankees fans enjoy another season of back-up catchers.”

  • hamburger helper

    Why not take Cervelli off the 40-man and put PJ on? Someone, quick – tell me why that can’t be done. Otherwise, I’m goin’ with it.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      Why would you DFA a 23-year-old catcher? That’s what the Yanks would have to do to remove Cervelli. They’re far more likely to DFA Jose Veras and add PJ.

      • hamburger helper

        Thank you, waiter, for your suggestion! That sounds better than the dish I ordered. Please bring me two.

  • Sal

    It made a lot of sense to play in a downpour. A month of Molina and cash hurry back a rod

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

      There’s no saying the weather had anything to do with it.

      Posada had hurt his hamstring before, you know, back in detroit.

      • Chris

        You’re using logic. And you cal yourself a Yankees fan. Puh-lease.

        • Bo

          You don’t think the weather may have helped contribute to it? And if his hammy was bothering him for a week why was he even playing? Rest it and get better.

          • andrew

            Guys are always bothered by something, it’s a long season. At some point you just have to give it a go. He didn’t catch on Saturday, there was no game on Sunday. He already had 2 days of rest.

            • steve (different one)

              also, he was DHing.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Let’s play the probable outcome tree game.

                1- Girardi plays Posada last night in the rain, and he injures himself. Girardi bashers claim Girardi is an idiot for playing Posada in the rain.

                2- Girardi rests Posada last night. Girardi bashers say he’s babying Posada and that Posada has to be able to play since he’s had two days off and that the rain is a bullshit excuse, Girardi’s just a pussy. Posada then injures his hammy later in the week and Girardi is at fault for giving him too much time off and allowing him to tighten up and increase the chances of getting injured when he returned.

  • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

    Ben –

    There are some people who commented on the near-riot story on my blog. Feel free to contact them via the comments there if you want.

  • JohnnyC

    “It made a lot of sense to play in a downpour”

    So what’s the problem with a day/night doubleheader later in the season…when, hopefully, you’ve got ARod on all cylinders and all the kinks worked out of the bullpen? Search me. Ask Cash.

    • steve (different one)

      do you really think Brian Cashman makes the decision whether or not to play in bad weather?

      i mean, i guess i don’t know for sure, but somehow i doubt it.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      So what’s the problem with a day/night doubleheader later in the season…

      Everybody in baseball, with the possible exception of the fans, hates doubleheaders. The stadiums hate them because of the logistics of getting people in and out and cleaning the stadium, the teams hate the loss of revenue (people spend less in concessions during each half of the doubleheader, I believe), the networks hate having to move a primetime game to the afternoon, the players hate the interruption of their routine, the organizations hate having to call up pitchers to accomodate the longer day or rejiggering travel plans.

      There’s a reason there are no more scheduled doubleheaders anymore. Baseball abhors them.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

        There’s a reason there are no more scheduled doubleheaders anymore. Baseball abhors them.

        But they’re the right way to play the game.

        • UWS

          So nice to hear from Josh Beckett on this subject.

          But, Josh…what are you doing cruising Yankee blogs? Shouldn’t you be preparing for your start tonight?

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

            I’ll get back to that after I finish combing my douchebeard.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Hey Josh, can I borrow one of your douchey quasi-surfer necklaces and have one of your Natty Lights?

              http://bostonglob.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/url-4.jpeg

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                Of course, Bro! Seriously, though, you’ve gotta grow a douchebeard. It’ll totally change your life. Our whole team does it and we look like total rednecks tools ultra-gritty-play-the-right-way-baseball players.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  http://nbcsportsmedia3.msnbc.com/j/ap/asiabxf10704140231.widec.jpg

                  Caption: Please, sensei, teach me more of the ways of the annoying fucktard.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                  Young Padwan, you must do one thing that I didn’t do: grow a beard. And also, don’t shower.

      • JohnnyC

        Separate admission split doubleheaders. They happen.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Nobody was talking about single-admission doubleheaders, those are gone like the dodo and won’t ever return.

          We were always talking about separate admission day-night doubleheaders. That’s the only kind of doubleheader that exists anymore… but the point still remains, everybody in baseball hates doubleheaders of ANY kind. Single admission, double admission, either way — all parties in the league try to avoid any kind of doubleheader like the swine flu.

          • jsbrendog

            last yr on fathers day mets had single amdissiojn double header.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              That both makes me feel good about the Mets… and allows me to mock the Mets.

              Bravo for them doing something good for their fans, and at the same time, what a bunch of dumbasses for passing up a second gate. I can see why they do things like sign Oliver Perez.

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                A friend of mine yesterday was arguing with me that signing Perez over Lowe was the smart move.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I don’t believe you. There is no way that conversation could have actually happened. Impossible.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                  He was saying Perez is a safer bet since he’s younger and Lowe could’ve gotten hurt since he’s 36.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  An old, gimpy, tired, gassed, hurt, injured, permanently disabled, armless, armless and legless, braindead, or fully dead Derek Lowe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A well rested and fully healthy Oliver Perez

  • Yankeegirl49

    I was at the game, went in as soon as we saw the tarp being removed while at the bar across the st. Lots of people up in arms about not being let back in…as I would have been.
    I understand the re-entry policy is there for a reason and has been around forever, BUT they could have bent the rule in this instance since it was THEIR employees who gave these folks the wrong info.

  • hamburger helper

    Nick Swisher for backup catcher!

    Hey, his dad might have taught him a few things…

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

      Lefty catchers, ftw.

  • josh

    whats up with montero. any info on the injury?

  • steve (different one)

    Javier Valentin, the guy RAB was pimping for 3rd string catcher, is currently a free agent i believe….

    my guess: Cervelli for a week or two, until A-Rod proves he can play 3B, then Berroa is DFA’ed. no other catchers added to the 40 man until then.

  • Bryan

    Wow this team is just a mess right now, hopefully everyone can get back healthy.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Wow this team is just a mess right now, hopefully everyone can get back healthy.

      2009 Yankees Current Team OPS+: 114 (3rd best in the AL)

      • hamburger helper

        2009 Yankees Pitchers:
        224.1 IP, 241 H, 106 BB (T-Worst in AL), 5.90 ERA (Worst in AL)

        Amounts to 347 baserunners in 224 innings. Ouch.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Yeah, that part of the equation has been ugly.

          I was just pointing out that, even without ARod or Nady, and with Matsui and Tex getting off to slow starts, we’re still mashing the ball. So, while losing Posada can and will hurt, we still have a good chance of still having a dynamite offense even in his absence.

          • hamburger helper

            I hear you. I’m just getting tired of these slugfests that we eventually lose because our arms can’t go out there and get a friggin’ 1-2-3 inning after we put up a crooked number.

            • Bryan

              Yea the offence is starting to click, but how long can Melky keep this up? Or Cano for that matter? It just seems that the Yankees always get hit with the injury bug in the beginning of the season.

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  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    What about Girardi as a back up or are player managers not allowed any more?

    • Sal

      Pena too

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    I think Jorge to the DL and Nails coming back soon means several rosters moves following.

    Probably Cervelli is called up, at least until Nails is back. Then you DFA Berroa and have a 40 man spot open and you could call up another catcher for Cervelli (like Pillitere or Chris Stewart) if necessary.

    I agree with earlier comments that Miranda should come back for a reliever. Or with a 40man spot open you could bring in Shelley or Johnny Rodriguez who would probably do better than Miranda and keep Cervelli in the majors.

    So today:
    Posada to the DL + Reliever sent down (Edwar? Alphabet?)
    Bring up Cervelli and Miranda

    When Nails comes back:
    Activate Nails from the DL + call up Shelley or J-Rod or Backup catcher
    DFA Berroa and send down Cervelli

    • A.D.

      I would guess Aceves, Robertson, and Edwar would have to be top candidates to go down.

      If they keep Aceves and his ability to eat innings they could probably send 2 relievers down, but I doubt they do.

      • A.D.

        Robertson because they don’t seem to be using him, and the organization does want him to get regular work.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          I forgot about Robertson, he seems to be the guy to send down. What do you think about the rest?

          • A.D.

            Agreed on the rest, I think you want back-up catcher + pinch hitter/back-up DH.

            • AlexNYC

              Aceves will not be sent down. I mean who is going to start on Saturday against the Orioles? It isn’t going to be Hughes on 3 days rest, no freakin way.

  • Bo

    It’s not like Cash or Stewart are better than Cervelli at this point anyway.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    My perfect world outcome:

    Veras DFA’ed
    Pilittere called up (taking Veras’ spot on the 40/25 man rosters)
    Miranda called up (taking Posada’s spot)

    I’m calling it … 10% chance of happening.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

      If Veras is DFA’d, do you think anyone (if so who) would pick him up off waivers?

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        You didn’t ask me, but I think somebody would call him up. He is still better than 50 % of the relievers out there. My guess would be San Diego or a AL that has a higher pick on the waiver wire.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

          Maybe Washington?

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

            The Nats are a good call, too. I don’t follow the NL that closely, so I just threw out a team that has bullpen issues. But the AL teams get to pick first if I understand the waiver wire correctly, so maybe those two don’t even have a shot to get Veras. And somebody will try to get him, he is good enough. Detroit? Texas? Baltimore? Oakland?

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

              I could see Oakland taking a shot just because of how terrible they’ve been.

              • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                You may have guessed wrong judging by ERA:

                http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=ERA&split=128&group=9&season=2009&seasonType=2&statType=pitching&type=reg

                I have no idea who would really pick up Veras, honestly, but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t get through waivers.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                  Wow. Nevermind then. I saw the 9 wins and just assumed. Wow. My bad.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I was shocked too as I had them on my list as well.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                  I think that leave the Nats as the only viable option?

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  Why? There are a lot of AL teams with crappy bullpens and, as I said earlier, those pick first if an AL team puts a player on waivers.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

                  AL teams may get gunshy after seeing Veras get lit up?

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  Might be, but NL teams have scouts at the games and watch tape, too. We will see if/when he gets to waivers. I guess the Yankees would trade him before putting him on waivers, even if they only get a fringe prospect. Veras has the stuff to be a pretty good reliever, somebody will take a chance and give up something for him.

        • Drew

          The Nats are having issues with Milledge. I’d love to see us make a move for him, with Veras being a throw in.

      • Frank

        The Nat’s would seem to be obvious choice.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Would you DFA even when you get back a spot on the 40man in a few days by DFA’ing Berroa? Or do you want to send down Pena when Arod comes back?

      Having Cervelli around for three games if Arod comes back on Friday doesn’t seem that bad if you have to DFA Veras to do it. Or do you want to get rid of Veras anyway?

  • thurdonpaul

    im trying to remind myself that its a long season, but the injuries are sure starting to suck, think positive folks, lets go YANKEES

  • MattG

    I like Cervelli. I’ve seen him real up close in Trenton a handful of times last season, and he’s always stood from the crowd (of course the .315/.432/.384 line would stand out).

    I would have more optimism if he weren’t scuffling right now, but can he really play worse than Molina did last night? What was that?

    • A.D.

      If nothing else he supposedly has a damn good glove, and it should keep Molina from wearing down.

  • Mister Delaware

    So quick to dismiss last season? Granted, relievers are a volatile bunch, but >2.0 K/BB and >9.0 K/9 is somewhat rare and quite valuable.

    (Somewhat defined here as 33 according to my count of relievers with 50+ IP last season. 4 of whom were Yankees: Rivera, Marte, Edwar and Veras.)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      The Yankee pen so far has pitched horrendously, but it’s only pitched 81.2 innings. That’s not that much… plenty of time for them to course-correct in the positive.

      None of these guys are really this bad. It’s a rough patch, it will improve.

      • Brendo

        It will help once they move Joba back there which at this point is inevitable.

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