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The three of us have been extremely fortunate with RAB. The site has become more popular than I think we ever imagined, and our readership continues to grow by the day. More readers means more comments, and unfortunately more comments means more problems. We implore everyone – whether you’re a seasoned RAB vet or a total newbie – to review our Commenting Guidelines. We don’t have many rules here, but the ones we do have are important and are enforced.

We understand the Yanks are in the middle of a brutal slump, but we have to keep things in perspective. They’ve played just 28 games, not 128. The three of use are every bit as frustrated with the team as you, but that frustration doesn’t give you a green light to personally attack your fellow readers. We’ve always asked that if you disagree with something someone’s written, attack the idea, not the person. This goes for everyone, not just those new to the site or others who some may perceive as favorite.

(Note by Joe: Read this article, at least the part until he pimps his book. No one’s going to take the advice, but I figured I’d throw it out there in an attempt to reduce the personal attacks in the comments.)

To paraphrase a long lost commentor, River Ave. Blues is more or less for the intelligent fan. We’ve been lucky enough to establish a strong community of rational fans who are willing to defend their beliefs with facts rather than spout off nonsense based on pure emotion. If someone posts something idiotic, don’t go out of your way to call it that. Most people will silently agree with you, and responding to trash only leads to more trash.

This is just a friendly reminder from Ben, Joe and myself. We thank everyone who’s made RAB part of their lives, and we look forward to watching the team turn things around and finishing the year strong.

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Early a.m. injury updates: Molina, Rivera
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  • jsbrendog

    implore

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I knew that. I really did.

      Fixed. Thanks.

      • jsbrendog

        np. youd be surprised, i have an english degree and taught 8th grade english and i still type things or spell them wrong and go, WTF, i knew that!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

    “If someone posts something idiotic, don’t go out of your way to call it that. Most people will silently agree with you, and responding to trash only leads to more trash.”

    x10

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      But it’s sooooooo tempting!

      But you’re also right Mike.

    • jsbrendog

      but its so hard to ignore ppl who make broad generalizations and then when rpesented with facts, concrete statistical evidence then call you stupid……

    • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

      When I complained by email a few weeks ago about the diluted nature of the game threads, I was told the opposite- just keep calling the idiots out until they go away.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

        Who said that? That’s a terrible idea. Ignoring them is the best medicine, and it’s not even close.

        • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

          I dont want to incriminate the guilty party, but it happened. The idea was that the weaker ones would go away under constant criticism. I’m certainly willing to ignore them.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

            Cool. And yes, please, ignoring them is optimal. I’m not saying ignore people with whom you disagree. Just ignore people who make intentionally infuriating comments.

            • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

              Of course. That’s going to take some self restraint.

  • JoeSit.(ragman)

    Good thoughts guys!!!
    We all need to remember that regardless of all our thoughts, theories, and opinions they are just that. Professionals are running “our” team wheter we agree or not. Lets us all enjoy, ride thru the rough times and look for #27

  • Yankeegirl49

    Thanks guys, you do a great job here.
    Heated discussions are great but heated discussions that consist of attacks should stay on the Mlb/Yankees and trillion of other places out there.

  • Slugger27

    a post with a hitman reference = awesome post

    • andrew

      unless you threaten to kill alex ovechkin, in which case you get arrested.

  • dkidd

    everyone is frustrated with losing and biblical rain. when the team starts winning and the sun starts shining, the tone of the comments will imporve

  • dkidd

    and yes i meant to say “imporve”

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Well said and taken to heart.

    A lot of these Yankee “fans” are really pissing me off with their irrationality, but I can’t let them get me so agitated that I lose my temper and start dropping F-bombs and personal insults.

    I apologize for going overboard in the game thread last night. I anticipate participating less in said game threads going forward, as they draw out idiocy like a flame draws moths. It sucks for me, but I don’t want to disrespect Mike, Joe, and Ben by turning every gamethread into a shouting match.

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      Now imagine if we had registration and the ability to block certain users’ comments from showing up. That’d be the life.

      • whozat

        It’s pretty easy to do this without registration. Just don’t read anything written by the people you don’t want to hear from. Sometimes they’ll get you when they change aliases (GrantBo, for example), but it works pretty good.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      “I apologize for going overboard in the game thread last night.”

      Would I be entertained if I poured through last night’s game threads? Is it worth it?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Yeah, probably a little.

        I’m only in the last two threads, so you don’t have to read all of them.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Nice… Off I go…

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Ok… Your comment about you-know-who going to get a sandwich because Damon hit a homer so there was momentarily nothing to complain about was pretty classic. And Pat calling someone “snuffy?” Awesome.

          (But yeah, you went a little… overboard… last night. The game-threads are tough to stomach lately, though, and it’s frustrating.)

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Yeah. I’m normally one of the most patient people on the planet, but day after day and month after month of that crap just wore me down to my breaking point, I guess.

            I was a mushroom-cloud-laying motherf$%&er, motherf$%&er. Every time my hands touched brains, I was TNT dynamite. I was the guns of the Navarone.

            • jsbrendog

              ::goes back to see the fireworks::

              • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                Gird your loins… It gets pretty rough.

                • jsbrendog

                  i will never view another game thread again…

                  haha, but msot of those comments made me laugh out loud, literally…at my desk..and get weird looks..haha

                  <—glad he has redeeming value

            • Thomas

              I was the guns of the Navarone.

              You never cease to amaze me with your movie references.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                - Will you stop talking about his cock!!!
                – Well, it’s hard to stop talking about something so huge!
                – He’s got a huge cock? Show it to me.

            • Whitey14

              Mmmhmm, this IS ia tasty burger!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    Guess I should tone down the f-bombs, huh?

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      No, just stop making idiotic comments.

      Come on, you walked right into that one! Am I right? … Guys? …

      http://instantcrickets.com/

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

        This is why I like you, Mondesi. Willing to give yourself the crickets.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          That, and the fact that you were one of the fattest centerfielders in major league history.

          http://i.cnn.net/si/2004/fanta.....si_all.jpg

          • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Dude, I just cracked up, for reals. VERY nice work holding off on the Raul=fat joke for months and then busting it out again.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Just when you thought it was safe to go outside…

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          That sounded dirty.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Heh.

    • rbizzler

      Personally, I am a fan of a well-placed F-bomb, but our blog captains may think otherwise. The game thread have never been my cup of tea anyway as my girl already thinks I am extremely demented to have the game on the telly and the cpu on with gameday.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

        I am a fan of the f-bomb, as you say, in well-placed situations. Hell, I curse with the best of them. A shitload of shit is one of my favorite phrases.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      The language is not an issue. Hostility towards other commenters is. That’s the long and short of it.

      • steve (different one)

        you suck.

        • steve (different one)

          just kidding, i think this post was very much needed.

          game threads have become an abomination.

          • steve (different one)

            and i know i am as guilty as anyone, though i’ve been trying to stay away for the most part.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              Yeah, I hear ya. The game threads are so unwieldy that it’s tough to jump in and say “hey! you! stop being an asshole!”

              We will preserve the sanctity of our daily threads, though.

  • http://eemack.blogspot.com Jackson

    It’s unfortunate that work limits my ability to actually participate in the discussion on most posts. Not that I would really bring much to the table, but it’s fun for me. The game threads are the only ones where I can read and comment in a timely fashion but those are the threads the attract the “fans” who seem to get more joy out of slapping the kiss of death on the Yankees and telling everyone how much they suck than actually rooting for the team.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Mike, you’re so wise. You’re like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      I kinda like to think of Mike as the “Dudley Dawson” of the little RAB fraternity.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Heh.

        But, since Animal House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Revenge of the Nerds:

        Mike = Hoover
        Ben = Boon
        Joe = Bluto

        tommiesmithjohncarlos = Otter
        Mondesi = Dorfman
        Popavero = Larry Kroger
        The Artist= D-Day
        Steve (different one) = Stork
        Rebecca = Katy
        UWS = Mandy Pepperidge
        Yankeegirl49 = Marian Wormer
        jsbrendog = Greg Marmalard
        Salbogrant= Doug Neidermeyer
        Lanny = Dean Wormer
        mustang = Chip Diller
        Spaceman.Spiff = Prof. Jennings

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Lol, I loathe you.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Meh, nobody here likes you, but we had to take you, you’re a legacy.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              lmao

              I was here before you. You’re the f’ng pledge. (Pouting in corner)

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Sweet. I get to marry UWS.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            And be a congressman, no less.

            However, I get to be the gynecologist to the stars.

            • jsbrendog

              so does this mean that secrelty everyone hates me?

              ::does nto want to get rape din prison::

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Let’s get real here…

          Mike = Hoover
          Ben = Boon
          Joe = Bluto
          tommiesmithjohncarlos = Otter Chip Diller
          Mondesi = Dorfman Doug Neidermeyer
          Popavero = Larry Kroger
          The Artist= D-Day
          Steve (different one) = Stork
          Rebecca = Katy
          UWS = Mandy Pepperidge
          Yankeegirl49 = Marian Wormer
          jsbrendog = Greg Marmalard
          Salbogrant= Doug Neidermeyer Flounder
          Lanny = Dean Wormer Stork
          DBHOF = Dean Wormer
          mustang = Chip Diller Mayor DePasto
          Spaceman.Spiff = Prof. Jennings

          I’m pretty sure this list is better. Look at it as building on your excellence.

          • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Fark… I forgot to reassign Steve…

            Mike = Hoover
            Ben = Boon
            Joe = Bluto
            tommiesmithjohncarlos = Chip Diller
            Mondesi = Doug Neidermeyer
            Popavero = Larry Kroger
            The Artist= D-Day
            Steve (different one) = Mayor DePasto
            Rebecca = Katy
            UWS = Mandy Pepperidge
            Yankeegirl49 = Marian Wormer
            jsbrendog = Greg Marmalard
            Salbogrant= Flounder
            Lanny = Stork
            DBHOF = Dean Wormer
            mustang = Otis Day
            Spaceman.Spiff = Prof. Jennings

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Heh.

            I’m Otter, because not only am I the smoothest with the ladies of all the RAB regulars, but my real name is Eric and I did actually go around introducing myself as “Hi, I’m Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman, damn glad to meet you” as a goof.

            And I can’t switch you and Salbogrant, because, frankly, he’s way more likely than you to be killed by his own troops in Vietnam.

            I do like mustang as Mayor DePasto, though. I could totally see him threatening to break someone’s legs…

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Ok… I had my fun giving you Chip Diller… I think my real list would be:

              Mike = Bluto
              Ben = Hoover
              Joe = Boon
              tommiesmithjohncarlos = Otter
              Mondesi = Doug Neidermeyer
              Popavero = Larry Kroger
              The Artist= D-Day
              Steve (different one) = Mayor DePasto
              Rebecca = Katy
              UWS = Mandy Pepperidge
              Yankeegirl49 = Marian Wormer
              jsbrendog = Greg Marmalard
              Salbogrant= Flounder
              Lanny = Stork
              DBHOF = Dean Wormer
              mustang = Chip Diller
              Spaceman.Spiff = Prof. Jennings

              Popavero as Kroger is so perfect, good work.

              Annnnd I’ve killed the joke, I know.

        • jsbrendog

          marmalard…dude come on seriously? lame

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Somebody had to take the fall and not be a Delta.

            Could have been worse, I could have made you “Man measuring dead horse (uncredited)”.

            • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

              Why am I Larry Kroger?

              • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                He’s the young turk, learning from the Deltas. It’s a good character to be assigned, don’t worry. He’s one of the more endearing characters.

                TSJC was definitely Niedermeyer last night.

                • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

                  I just wanna be cool, ya know.

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Heh, that was so Kroger.

  • V

    I’m as guilty as anyone, and will try to stop responding to Lanny/’Voice of Reason’, etc.

    I just wish I could click a button and keep them from showing up.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      I’m sure there’s a WordPress plugin for that somewhere. Unfortunately, the “new comment” plugin takes up so many resources that we can’t afford many more. And I don’t want to get rid of that one. I use it constantly.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Just a word of advice… One way to try to slow the flame-wars is to not call out the commenters you don’t like by name when it’s not necessary.

      • jsbrendog

        yeah stop calling out grant/bo/sal

        oops.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          lol, well played

      • V

        Eh, they don’t show up unless the Yankees are losing, anyway. Since the Yankees aren’t, at the moment, losing, we’re ok ;-)

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

    Pop and I can still hurl lame insults at each other though, right?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Man, Matt, you are one pathetic loser! No offense…

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

        With all due respect, your sister’s a whore. Now, I say that with all due respect.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Mr. Dennit: Just because you say that doesn’t mean you get to say whatever you want to say to me!

          Ricky: It sure as hell does!

          Mr. Dennit: No, it doesn’t–

          Ricky: It’s in the Geneva Conventions, look it up!

          /best line in a bad movie’d

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Girard – What is this, “Highlander?”
            Ricky Bobby – It’s a movie.
            Girard- It is good?
            Ricky Bobby – Yeah. It won the Oscar, for best movie ever made.

            • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

              Swisher – Girardi, I’m all jacked up on Mountain Dew!

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              The Kurgan = Kelvin Inman

              That. Just. Happened.

  • Tampa Yankee

    I think the overall, and even more so, recent success on the Yanks has spoiled a bunch of young “fans” to the point where a 5-game losing streak brings out the “we should have signed so and so!1!!111!” (to me that’s one of the dumbest things people say because just because the Yanks have all this $ to throw around, it doesn’t mean other players have to take it) or “fire the pitching coach and manager!11!!1!”.

    Think about it, a high school senior at the age of 18 would have seen the team finish 1st or 2nd in the ALE every year from 1993-2007, 13 straight playoff appearances until last year and 4 rings in 6 WS appearances.

    IMHO, this breeds “we should win a ring every year especially with all our great resources!11!”

    I am so glad I stumbled upon RAB, for the most part it seems everyone is logical about the success and failures of this team. Mike, Joe and Ben, you all do a great job, keep up the good work.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      IMHO, this breeds “we should win a ring every year especially with all our great resources!11!”

      You know, I think I could almost tolerate Yankee fans thinking we need to win a ring every year if they didn’t think we needed to win every single GAME every single night.

      Or thinking that having a 200M payroll means that it’s inexcusable to not have a all-star caliber 4th string catcher sitting by the ready in Scranton.

      High expectations are healthy if difficult to meet. Unrealistic expectations are damaging to one’s sanity and well-being.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

        +1

        I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been pretty spoiled as a Yankee fan. I started following baseball real closely at age…8? Yeah, 8. I went to my first game in ’95 and loved the Yankees ever since. All I’m used to is incredible success and perhaps my expectations are too high. To combat this, I’ve tried to be as objective as possible in my analysis of this team. I do think they can win the whole thing just about every year, but if they don’t, I’m not gonna consider the season a failure. Take ’08, for example. If I were the fan I was in middle school or high school even, I think I would’ve flipped out and had a fuckin’ breakdown. But, with more maturity and perspective, I realized an 89 win season with that many injuries is a pretty good season, especially in the toughest division in sports (as far as I’m concerned).

    • thurdonpaul

      +1

  • J.W.

    I almost never comment mostly because I lack the cleverness to hang with the cool folks in internet-land and I lack the anger and ignorance to hang with the un-cool ones. So at the risk of sounding incredibly naive I have the following question. Isn’t it, often, the goal of some of the meaner-spritited internet-trollers out there to simply piss people off just for the sake of it? With that it mind, isn’t it most effective to do our best to ignore those people? This is cheesy I know, but we can’t control the jerks, but we can control how we let them make us feel. If we ignore the jackasses, we prevent them from getting there kicks, no?

    • J.W.

      uhh their kicks that is, not there kicks.

    • jsbrendog

      easier said than done my friend. but in theory, completely

      • J.W.

        Oh, totally easier said than done. And i’m not trying to say anything like “this is what we must do” or anything, people should react however they like. I’m just saying it’d be cool if the nice people on this site didn’t have to deal with the jerk ones and maybe this would be one way to imagine potentially ridding the site of some of them. I think conflict can be fun as long as certain boundaries are respected, but ideally it’d be the kind of conflict you can laugh about over a beer afterward.

  • Jake H

    I think right now we are all so frustrated by this team that we aren’t communicating as the type of people we really are. I try to remember that 9 out of 10 posters here are good fans and know what they are talking about. I would rather them have this bad 28 game stretch now instead of September.

  • Whitey14

    From my perspective, the more you guys crap on each other, the less time you spend crapping on us ;-)

    • Elle

      You guys run a great blog with a great comments section, thank you for that.

      OT: I have had a stomach flu the whole time the Yankees have been on this losing streak. Not sure whether to blame them or blame myself, but either one is more fun than remembering that correlation does not equal causation.

  • anonymous