Lonn Trost opens mouth, inserts foot

2009 Blue Jays reminiscent of recent AL East team
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For nearly the entire life of RAB, I’ve been a vocal opponent of the new stadium. “Because we won’t tear down Yankee Stadium” was once in our banner. Personally, I have never felt the Yanks absolutely needed a new stadium to stay financially competitive, and it was clear early on that the Yankees were building it as a cash cow.

This morning, in the comments to my post on the various seats for sale from new and old Yankee Stadium, one of our readers accused me of critiquing the Yankees with no perspective or evidence. The perspective I offer is mine. I grew up in Manhattan and have been going to Yankee games with my parents for as long as I can remember. For all of its faults, I loved the old stadium and thought the Yanks could have spent far less to renovate it and maintain its charm than it would cost to build their new park.

As for evidence, I’ve offered up critiques backed with quotes, numbers and first-hand observations. Today, though, Lonn Trost delivered me a golden egg on a silver platter. During a press conference to announce the sale of old stadium merchandise — more on that in a minute — Trost grew defensive over the new stadium.

Now, this isn’t the first time one of the Yankee officials has taken to speaking before thinking. Today, though, Trost showed exactly how and why the Yankees are committed to those fans who are willing to shell out the dough, but not to others. The Yankees have come under fire for their security policies at the new ballpark. They don’t allow fans who don’t have tickets to approach the field level seats during batting practice. That generally means no autographs, fewer baseballs and less of a stadium experience.

In defending that policy today, Trost showed exactly why the Yanks need to revamp at least their public relations efforts, if not their overall attitude toward fans. “There’s an area by the Legends Suite which is not an area that fans can get into,” he said. “If you purchase a suite, do you want somebody in your suite? If you purchase a home, do you want somebody in your home?”

That statement just gets one giant facepalm, and I’ll allow it to speak for itself. In my opinion, that is all the evidence I need to know how the Yankees feel about their new stadium. I will continue to root for the players, and the Front Office continues to make that as hard as possible.

Meanwhile, the Yankees unveiled the memorabilia sale info. Details after the jump.

Right now, you can buy stadium memorabilia via the Steiner Sports website or their auction page. Literally, everything sellable is for sale, and I really want this turnstile.Stadium seats are going for around $2000 a pair. You can nab a spot from the bleachers though for $400. More prices, per the press release:

  • 1 ft. x 1 ft. pieces of live sod from Yankee Stadium: $120
  • Pairs of Stadium seats: ranging from $1499 – $1999; commemorative single seats: $750
  • Final Season Crystals with Genuine Dirt from the original Yankee Stadium: $80
  • Original bricks from Monument Park in a glass case with etched Yankees logo: $150

The Yanks bat rack can be yours, and the old bathroom garbage cans are for sale too. Just clean that one out first.

2009 Blue Jays reminiscent of recent AL East team
Game 32: A weak lineup vs. a strong pitcher
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    “one of our readers excused me of critiquing the Yankees”

    Think you mean accused.

    You should see how the blogosphere is ripping Trost apart. Not that we matter in the grand scheme of things, but there’s a lot of pent up frustration.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      Typos fixed.

      As for power of blogs, the Yanks know we’re out here, and they know what fans think. They can choose to ignore it or respond to it. I think Trost’s lack of patience with these questions is a clear indication that he is at least hearing the fan complaints. Whether they act on it is another issue all together.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

        I guess, for our part, it’s much better than sitting around and doing nothing.

    • fred

      the guy is an a-hole. I remember him spending hours in the bathroom at the lawfirm we worked at before he came to the yankees. He represented Steinbrenner back then in all his double delaings. Lonn would perfect his comeover in the bathroom.

  • Jake K

    Trost and Randy Levine should be banned from ever talking to the media.

    • George G

      Why? Let them open their mouths. Just gives more and more credibility to the legitimate complaints the fans have.

      • Jake K

        Good point. They’re just so insufferable.

  • Wayne’s World

    Although I was deeply opposed to building the new ballpark, I could never have guessed how much it would backfire on them. And I keep hearing more and more people say how they don’t really love the new ballpark.

    • George G

      Having gone to the old stadium since I was a kid, there is a certain fondness and bias to the old park that I can’t separate myself from. So having been to the new Stadium 2 times now, when I make the comparisons between the two I think it’s nice but it most certainly lacks the charm of the old park. One could argue that a lot of that is attributed to the memories that the old place held and the charm is based on that more than the actual facility. It’s a viable argument. However, I just went to Camden Yards to see Phil get shellacked by the O’s for 9. I had never been to another ballpark outside of Yankee Stadium, Shea Stadium and Tiger Stadium. So for all intents and purposes this place was 100% NEW to me and it was 100% amazing. That place had real magic and charm to it. That Roy Hobbs, Ray Kinsella Americana charm where you walk in and the place just FEELS like baseball. The new Yankee Stadium doesn’t stir those feelings in me. I had wrote it off to “the place just needs to be broken in” but Camden Yards stirred those magical feelings in me and it was “new” to me as well, so I don’t know that breaking in the new Stadium is really going to do anything. The more I think about the new place, and walk around and really explore, the less it feels like a home of baseball.

      • Observer283

        Strongest ditto of all time. I too went to Camden Yards for the first time this weekend and saw Phil get his lunch handed to him. But what I also saw was exactly what a ballpark should be. You hit itright directly on the head when you wrote “you walk and the place just FEELS like baseball.” It really, truly does. When you are there, you can imagine what Ebbets field must have felt like, and all the other great old ballparks. Yankee Stadium, on the otherhand, feels like a huge corporate shrine to materialism that just happens to have a field in the middle of it. Look, it is pretty in its own steril way, and I am sure it will grow on me (especially as the good memories start to develop). But will it ever FEEL like baseball? I don’t know.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I love the physical structure and layout of the new ballpark. I spent almost my whole life not really knowing my way around the old stadium. After two games, I can get around the new stadium with ease.

    So, yes, love the new stadium in concept, hate what it’s coming to represent.

    Then again, my favorite NFL team just allowed Jimmy Buffett to name their stadium. I can’t win, no matter where I look. :)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      I hear your complaint about navigating the old stadium a lot. Here’s my question for the Yanks (or anyone really): Why didn’t they just renumber the sections and rows?

      It would have taken a day over the off-season to renumber the sections consecutively, and they could have easily ditched the Tier Box problem of having two rows with the same letter designation. It’s almost as if they didn’t want to make it more fan friendly.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      “I love the physical structure and layout of the new ballpark. I spent almost my whole life not really knowing my way around the old stadium. After two games, I can get around the new stadium with ease.”

      Whoah whoah… lol… The old stadium had one narrow concourse running around each of the three bowls. It really couldn’t have been much more simple to navigate. The new stadium is certainly not difficult to navigate, but there’s no way it’s as simple as the old place was!

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Oh ok.. I just read Ben’s comment above. I guess the numbering was more confusing, sure.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

          I’m with you. I thought the old park was pretty easy to navigate.

          But I can see why someone would be confused when they find that section 12 is on the other side of the stadium from sections 11 and 13.

          • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            “But I can see why someone would be confused for about 5 seconds before they realized that the numbering system placed the odd-numbered sections on the first base side and the even-numbered sections on the third base side when they find that section 12 is on the other side of the stadium from sections 11 and 13.”

            Kidding, the numbering system is clearly more simple and easy to understand at the new stadium.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I love the physical structure and layout of the new ballpark. I spent almost my whole life not really knowing my way around the old stadium.

      Really? I knew that place like the back of my hand. That’s why it’s going to feel weird when I go to the new Stadium on Saturday, not knowing my way around and what not.

  • Matty Ice

    I can’t really blame Trost for the “home” comment. If you pay $1,500 for a seat (or whatever they reduced it to) do you want some kid spilling his carvel all over your leather?

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Well, no… But those people aren’t even there 3 hours before the game so the space just sits there empty while the fans who are already there have to watch from afar.

    • George G

      But the person paying for the ticket doesn’t OWN the seat. They are purchasing the right to sit in that seat during game time. Before a game, and after a game have no bearing on the ticket. If that analogy were true, then if I bought a ticket to one of those seats, I could go back on Saturday and get pissed off that someone was sitting in my home.

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Well… No. The ticket-holder has a license to use that seat while the stadium is open to fans for the day, the license to use a seat is not limited to game-time.

        • George G

          None the less, they don’t own the seat. The Yankees could very well change the policy because the Yankees DO own the seat. Oh well, Going to Camden Yards for all Yankees series is going to be become an annual thing for my family. It costs less to see all 3 games in a series, right along the first base side behind the dugout, plus gas, and stay at a 4 star hotel than it does for 1 of those tickets at Yankee Stadium and you’re allowed to talk to the players, get autographs in those areas even if you don’t have seats in that section.

          • Lanny

            It’s batting practice. It’s 3 hrs before a game starts. Let the kids down there. It’s not like they’re in a freaking luxury box.

    • andrew

      Even if that kid spills his ice cream, those legends suites have ushers who are paid to go around and clean up the seats/aisle throughout the game. No other place in the stadium has that type of service. If there’s one place where a kid spilling carvel is no big deal, its in the legends suites.

    • Chris

      I agree with you on this one. Trost is an ass, and he could have phrased it differently, but I think he’s making a reasonable point. Some people in those seats shelled out more than $200k for those season tickets. That’s a lot of money, and part of what they get for that is access to the field level seats before the game.

      People advocate opening it up to everyone until an hour before game time, but why not right until game time? Hoe about during the game? The experience of the game includes the pre-game activities, so why should BP be treated any differently?

  • Memo

    I’m very content watching the Yankees on television at this point.

    • Wayne’s World

      I never thought I’d live to see the day in which I said it, but I think I agree with you Memo.

  • JP

    I know where you’re coming from, but there have to be limits. I went to Yankee Stadium last year, for the first time in over 20 years. The last time I’d gone, in ’84 I think, I got to the park a couple of hours early, and there were almost no fans there. I walked the stadium looking for foul balls. I walked down to field level to watch BP. About 3 years later, I was living in DC, and I would attend Orioles games at Memorial Stadium. I would buy an upper deck ticket, and after about 4 innings would walk down to field level and sit behind home plate, or somewhere similar.

    Unfortunately, these days are over. At the Yankee game I went to last season, I was there a couple of hours early, and there must have been at least 10,000 people there already. The line to monument park was a mile long. If all of those people were allowed to flood the field level seats, even to watch BP, it would be very rude to the people paying for those seats.

    I might not be expressing this very eloquently…you portray the situation as if there is an evil, greedy owner, soaking and abusing wholesome, honest, good natured fans. Well, the clientele at Yankee stadium can and does include a pretty hefty number of obnoxious jerks, and if I paid for a ticket for a field level seat and had to fight with 2000 people cramming the line in front of my box who are fighting for autographs, etc., I’d be upset.

    The real problem is that the team chose to build such an expensive stadium in the first place – on this score I agree with you. I think they could have either renovated the old park, or at the very least built something more modest and affordable, such that the field level seats wouldn’t be out of reach for all but the wealthiest people.

    • Mike HC

      You can still sneak down in Baltimore, Camden Yards, even on opening day. I went with a friend and got upper deck tickets. In the 4th inning we just walked down to the second row behind the Yanks dugout, with absolutely no problem. They also let fans/kids come down and hang out right above the dugout in between every inning. I have not been to the new Yankee Stadium, but from what I heard, it is the exact opposite of that.

    • Jake S

      At stadiums where you can watch BP, they kick the fans out an hour before game time. That’s plenty of time to clean up and make sure that the space isn’t sullied by the rabble.

      • JP

        That’s a good solution. Still gives the paying customer his due, while not ruining things for everyone else.

    • Accent Shallow

      This is a solid comment, expressing a point of view that I overlooked. This isn’t as cut-and-dry as I’d have originally thought, so kudos for that.

      That said, could Trost have phrased that more clumsily? Sheesh.

    • Bob Kavanagh

      “the team chose to build such an expensive stadium”

      Yeah, but they didn’t pay for it. The tax payers did…

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    But, yeah, I agree with the general sentiment here. I’ve been to probably a hundred or so Yankee games in my life and I’ve never once gotten an autograph there because I haven’t been able to get close enough to do so. It’s annoying.

  • jsbrendog

    “There’s an area by the Legends Suite which is not an area that fans can get into,” he said. “If you purchase a suite, do you want somebody in your suite? If you purchase a home, do you want somebody in your home?”

    O-A-K-T-A-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      FOR. THE. WIN.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
      • jsbrendog

        thats prob the best link. ever. im saving that one.

  • Scott of 3 Kids Tickets

    “will continue to root for the players, and the Front Office continues to make that as hard as possible.”

    CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!

    -Scott

    • Mike Pop

      Is that your vagina I smell, Scott?

      • pat

        Well he was only echoing what Ben said so I guess you’d be smelling Ben’s theoretical vagina too.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

          What’s wrong with vagina?

          • pat

            I got bit as a child once, long story, I’m scarred emotionally.
            And physically.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
              • pat

                Haha thanks, I gotta thank Rebecca for unwittingly setting me up with a blank canvas to work my idiot magic.

      • Scott of 3 Kids Tickets

        Of all the rude, nasty comments..WTF?
        Take what, a whole 2 seconds of thought to be a prick?

        -Scott

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

          Question: Why do you sign your comments? Your name is right there.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Question: Why the hell don’t you?

            -tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Captain Portmanteau a/k/a Snarkman

  • Lanny

    Didn’t mind them building a new stadium til they built a disaster like this. That is a pure money grub. They took the one thing they built up over the years and destroyed it. Home field advantage. 3000 dollar empty seats don’t cure it.

  • dkidd

    it’s unbelievable how tone deaf these people are. it’s like the scene in bull durham: practice your cliches

    the fans are the lifeblood of this organization
    everything we do, we do for the fans
    we are dedicated to providing a great experience to all of our wonderful fans

    charge whatever you like, but at least make a token effort to hide the fact that the fans are simply another line item in a budget

  • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    I just saw this and it’s stadium related:

    http://www.kottke.org/09/05/the-economics-of-the-new-yankee-stadium

    “Ticket prices at the new Yankee Stadium are so high that if a New Yorker wants to watch a Mariners/Yankees game from the best seats, it would be a lot cheaper to fly to Seattle, stay in a nice hotel, eat fancy dinners, and see two games.

    Option 1: Two tickets to Tuesday night, June 30, Mariners at Yanks, cost for just the tickets, $5,000.

    Option 2: Two round-trip airline tickets to Seattle, Friday, Aug. 14, return Sunday the 16th, rental car for three days, two-night double occupancy stay in four-star hotel, two top tickets to both the Saturday and Sunday Yanks-Mariners games, two best-restaurant-in-town dinners for two. Total cost, $2,800. Plus-frequent flyer miles.”

    h/t deadspin

  • Bob Michaels

    Trost came off sounding like the Evil Empire, not like my Bronx Bombers.

  • Former Yankee Fan

    Lonn Trost has turned me into a Red Sox fan. What an insufferable, arrogant POS.

    The last straw was the game against the Red Sox (my new idols) which was postponed for two and a half hours, during which time fans who left the ballpark believing the game would be rained out weren’t allowed back in.

    I hate fat guys whose name is prefixed by “Stein.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

      lol @ u

      /oaktag

    • pat

      SEE YA LATER!!!!!!!

  • Yankeegirl49

    Trost is an ass…and the new stadium is on big PR nightmare. However, since the mid to late 90’s, you were not let near the dugouts unless you had tickets. This is not new to the new stadium. You were allowed downstairs down the lines tho.

    I agree with those that love Camden Yards, I go multiple times a season. 2 1/2 hour drive, cheaper prices for better seats and I can go down by the dugout and maybe get an autograph or at least some good pics.
    Mo signed on Sat for about 20 minutes, didnt get to where I was but I did manage to get AJ on Sunday outside the players entrance before the game.

  • MoveBack

    You know, one issue with access is that there is no aisle anymore. Even if the Yankees decided to let people go to the Legends area, its not like there is an aisle anymore. It;s, as some have said, a damn moat.

    No one is asking the Yankees to let me and my buddies slide down and pound 4 beers or try to sneak into a liugue and steal a bag of peanuts, but let kids down there if its BP and its empty.

    That is the least of the issues though, the big problem is the Yankees empire is crumbling and Lonn is fiddling. They can’t sell the real seats, and they announce today its $1500 for two plastic weatehered seats? $80 for dirt? Earth to Lonn and Randy, your $100 seats aren’t all sold, and you think you will get $80.FOR DIRT??!!!

    Lonn needs to worry about this. I went to Yankee Stadium, and felt like I was a second class citizen. Only the Yankees build a place that enocurages standing and then hire a militia to make you “keep moving”. I left thinking…it’s like Caesars Palace, they don’t want me here unless I have $500 to spend

    I went to Citi Field…the sightlines DO stink, but its a ballpark. I left and on the way out, bught 2 seats for another game.

    On a related note, I think the big issue here is the Ynkees have no leadership. Who runs the team? Who answers to trost? levine? Hank? Hal? Cashman?

    I think the Steinbrenners are phasing out of the Yankees, and the suck ups are fighting for power.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

      CitiField is built as a place for fun for everybody. If you have a lot of money, you can go to the exclusive clubs. If you don’t, you can sit on the picnic benches and eat food that is only a small ripoff.

      New Yankee Stadium was built only with the upper crust fans in mind. Sure it has tons of amenities but they’re not meant for me or anyone normal.

      It’s very sad.

  • MoveBack

    Not sure if it was by design, but CitiField did a good job of hiding the lounges/clubs. You have to find them and dn’t feel like your missing out

    Our Stadium…they have;

    The mystery black curtain guarding the legends suites
    The Lonn trost moat
    The glass walled private restaurant
    An art gallery featuring $67,000 Peter Max paintings for purchase
    A Steiner sports store sure to soon have anything not nailed down at 161st for sale
    A nice Mohegan Sun Bar right when you exit monument park that is members only
    Premium $125 seats guarded by three officers in the supposed “bleache rfan ” standing /food court area
    A butcher showing you the cuts of beef you can’t possibly afford being served to the 3 patrons of NYY steak
    A public martni bar..serving $18 martinis.

    Indeed, very sad

  • Some Annonymous Guy

    Seeing that this blog is dedicated to fostering and promoting rational dialogue from all sides, I guess I’ll play devils advocate here. Its very easy to sit back and give the workers of the world unite speech. Have pity on us, the poor, honest, blue collar folk, the “real fans”.

    One of the main arguments on here accusing the Yankees of elitism seems to be about letting kids down by the field before the game. While Trost certainly should have chosen his words a little more carefully, this policy isn’t really anything new. Anyone who has gone to games over the last 10 years knows that this access was cut off a long time ago, the dugout and home plate areas were off limits unless you had a ticket. There were areas down the line were you could “sneak” down to and there are areas today where you can “sneak” down to, granted there are fewer of them in the new place. People who are paying that kind of money for those legends seats don’t want to have to tell some riff raffs to get out of their seats when they get there. Thats expressly what they are paying for. Whether we can relate to it or not is a different issue, but that is Trost’s logic.

    People are paying top dollar across the country for psl’s to their favorite sports teams so whats happening at Yankees stadium isnt unique. They could just as easily have sold those legends seats with psl’s attached and slapped a face value of $250/ticket on them, giving the appearance that they weren’t as excessive as they are. In their defense, these tickets were priced when the Dow was at 14,000. No one in the front office could have predicted the economic climate that exists today. Sure, they have been brutally slow in acknowledging and rectifying this, but the decisions were made at the time given the information available to them.

    Maybe the Yankees execs believe that fans have been ridiculously spoiled over the last 15 years given the enormous rise in popularity of the franchise. Hell, I’ve got a ticket stub from a game in 1997 vs Boston, 1st row behind the Yankees on deck circle on the field which has a face value of $40. I’m sure my old man would have flipped out in 1997 if I told him how much I just paid to see a Yankees game. Looking back, sure those were the good old days, but all this complaining about how things have changed for the worst is getting stale. Maybe we were spoiled for the last 15 years and its time to accept the fact that the good old days are gone. Increased merchandising, tv ratings, the rise of the internet and internet blogs have all made the product they are selling more desirable, so maybe its possible that we are all the victims of our own success here?

    People seem to be infuriated with the Yankees perceived lack of understanding to the plights of their “real fans”. I’ve been a full season ticket holder for years and my experience with the re-location process was outstanding (and I have/had Tier seats, not those fancy ones downstairs). As a full season ticket holder, I expected to be treated differently than the partial plan holders and I was. After all, I represented a greater percentage of ticket sales than the guy who had a sunday plan and I expected my priority to be weighted accordingly. Just like a Dallas Cowboys season ticket holder in the nose bleeds cant expect the same Super Bowl lottery priority as someone who paid a $100,000 psl fee.

    If the Yankees front office are such evil, greedy, excessive corporate monsters then why on earth did they give away free tickets to the exhibition games against the Cubs in April? All season ticket holders received free tickets for these games. Figure roughly 20,000 season ticket holder seats were given away for free x 2 games = 40,000 seats. They could have easily averaged $50/ticket for those seats but they decided to give them away as a nice gesture to season ticket holders foregoing the extra $2 mil they could have gotten by selling them. I’m shocked some of these “mainstream” blogs failed to cover both sides of the story and give the Yankees a little applause for some of their good deeds. I guess it’s just easier to complain about it.

    I know I’m in the minority here, but my experiences with the Yankees ticket office over the last several years have been outstanding. OMG!111!!!1 thow, my tikcet prices had gone up from $17/ticket to $20/ticket in the last 3 yaers….unconscionable greeeedy bastrds!11!!!1!1! And I think the new stadium is absolutely beautiful. I honestly couldn’t give a damn about whats going on in the first 20 rows between the dugouts.

  • Sad Yankee Fan

    I love this last post. We’re spoiled over the last 15 years. How about 4 million fans the last 2 years. 4 Million!! What about George & family and of course Lon & Randy who are much more important than Babe & Lou!!! You tell me who is spoiled??

    The new stadium is a big miss, relocation plan & ticket prices should be looked into by the NY Attorney General. Let’s face it, most of us have been taken advantage of with this new stadium.

    I’d love to know what Derek Jeter really thinks. Maybe one day we’ll find out.

    • ben

      the sentiments here are noble, but i think misdirected. the yankees organization isn’t there for the “fans” no sports organization is, they are there to make money. thats it and the way you do that is by selling tickets.

      why should the front office care about what any of us think? RAB is a great site for those who follow the yanks and attend several games a year if possible, but there are very few of us here who actually buy expensive seats, etc. my bet is we are just a small part of their margins.

      the yanks make their money on corportate tickets, tourists from overseas or the us who have money and want to see one yankee game in style and from tv and advertising contracts. and those sources demand a new stadium to keep things interesting, lipstick on the old stadium wasn’t going to do it anymore and the bitching about the old stadium and its crappy bathrooms, food selection, etc. was just as bad as the new griping. go ahead and attack me and the other devils advocates here, but the fact is, opinions from regular fans don’t matter to an entity that is out to make money.

      same thing as the execs from mortgage companies that made a boatload before the bubble burst. you think they care that regular people think they are dirtbags? hell no if they got to keep what they made.

  • MoveBack

    No one expects the Yankees to feel for the average fan. What I think everyone is getting at is the Yankees inability to admit mistakes. The fans and media focus on the empty seats up front because those are the most glaring.

    One night, take a look at the luxury box level and count the empty boxes. There are dozens. At one Oakland game there were 4 boxes with people in them. Four!

    Look at the grand Audi Stadium Club that has sat empty, a memebership club no one bought memberships too. Did anyone else quietly get that $75 discount the Yankees ent via email already for that area vs tampa?

    The bleacher cafe has two rows of luxury seating at $125 per seat. It has been empty all year.

    The Yankees built a playground for the rich and the rich moved on. I for one don;t believe the economy is to blame fully. NY baseball history shows that teams fill stadiums when they win. Last year was a non-playoff year. Just look across town, the Mets drew 3 million in 87-88. By 1991 they were getting 14,000 a night

    When Torre managed he gave the Yankees an event feel. Paul McCartney was in the clubhouse, now Paul Oneill gets kicked out of batting cages. The “scene” is over.

  • PR

    Lonn Trost is an A-hole but The Stadium is great. The problem is: the atmosphere sucks because they screwed up certain details. The place isn’t that expensive (I pay $22 for good seats upstairs, while bleachers are just a bit more than a movie) especially when compared to other sporting events- it’s just that the expensive seats are obnoxiously expensive. They have to change their approach to the premium areas and give up on the ultra exclusive thing. At least let anyone walk down before the game and allow people to fill any empty seats after the 4th inning. And they could easily sell 10K standing room only seats in that park. Drop the food/beer prices $1-2 and open up a couple of the clubs to the masses and all the problems are solved.

    Citi Field has 15K less seats than Shea- if anything it is more elitist than NYS.

  • MoveBack

    Open the mohegan Sun Bar to the public, put the exclusive Legends Suite restaurant where the audi club is so that it is less obvious and actually faces the field so people will eat there during a game, put the hard Rock where the current Legends field restaurant is and put the steakhouse out of its misery. No one wants a $54 steak with no views of the game they just paid to attend.

  • Sad Yankee Fan

    No way Citi Field even with 15k less is more elitist than Yankee Stadium. You walk up to Citi and you feel like your going into the NYC version of Camden Yards. You walk into Yankee Stadium and you feel like your doing Yankee Management a Favor. The new stadium at best is just OK, closer to a big miss. What is so great about it?
    Could it be any bigger? The people in the upper part of the upper deck look like they’re in a different zip code.

  • MoveBack

    Forget everything else, what they did to Monument Park, especialy after the grand promises of restroing it to its former glory, is prrof they could care less about anything that does not generate revenue.

    Monument cave is not visible from anywhere inside the stadium once a game starts, but Johnny Rockets food court is. Think about that.

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