Comments on: Choosing among starting pitchers

By: Rick in Boston

Rick in Boston — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:37:07 +0000

Wins are a team stat, not a pitcher’s stat. There was something brought up about Wang earlier in another thread – his run support has been putrid (something like three runs over four starts).

Run support this year:
Hernandez: 5.43/start (14 starts)
Chamberlain: 4.92/start (13 starts)

Interestingly, both teams were shut out in their latest starts.

These aren’t advanced stats, it’s not that we don’t think a team’s wins or losses matter, it’s just in the application of them.

By: KayGee

KayGee — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:26:14 +0000

So i guess wins dont count anymore either

By: Rick in Boston

Rick in Boston — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:10:38 +0000

Simply:

Chamberlain: ERA+ 114
Hernandez: ERA+ 105

Base ERA is lower, K/9 is higher. The only two categories that Heranndez hase a clear advantage in is IP and BB’s.

By: Benjamin Kabak

Benjamin Kabak — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:15:58 +0000

Honestly, not any time soon. We were going to make it seven days after the blatantly homophobic comment. But then over the weekend, Axl tried to flood my mailbox with messages from an anonymous e-mail address. Then, he admitted to doing so in a comment he tried to submit. So not only is that a borderline illegal use of a computer, but it’s not going to win him any points with us right now.

If either you or Axl care to continue this discussion with me, Mike and Joe via e-mail, our addresses are at right. We’re not going to be issuing any further comments on it here.

By: Bill R

Bill R — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:58:59 +0000

AXL wants to know when his ban will be lifted? He misses you all!

By: LB

LB — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:55:23 +0000

Let’s not forget Lord Francesa )

By: LB

LB — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:38 +0000

I think so

By: LB

LB — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:40:08 +0000

Happy Birthday Phil Yuuuse

By: MattG

MattG — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:39:53 +0000

Wow, 218 posts, and I missed the whole thing. It’s a little too busy today for me to read these thread, but I want to add my 2 cents: I am going to guess the consensus is for Wang to go again, and to get Phil back to AAA. I am against that. At this time, I am ready to call Phil Hughes Wang’s equal. I say it is time to give Hughes the rotation spot, and put Wang into relief until another spot avails itself. Wang can be a weapon in the 5-8th innings, and Hughes can get the innings he needs. Most importantly, in keeps the best pitchers on the major league roster, where they are needed to earn a playoff spot.

By: Hova

Hova — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:32:09 +0000

The stat I want to see reversed tonight is Joba’s 24 walks in his last 12 innings. That is scary bad. Hopefully the pitching coaches are pounding that into his head today.