Jun
19

Friday Afternoon Chat Reminder

By Mike Axisa

Care to reminisce about that inexcusable series loss to the Nationals at home? If so, then come on over to our regular Friday afternoon chat later today at 2pm. If you don’t want to relive the nightmare of the past three days, stop by anyway, we’ll talk about plenty of other stuff as well. See you then.

Posted on Friday, June 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am in Asides, Chats.

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Doomiest and gloomiest chat ever?

 
AD says:

We lost to the nationals and are 0-8 against the red sox. Is this really a world series contending elite team? No way in hell

But wait! Its “still early”! Season is only 41% of the way over. We have plenty of time to get this all figured out.

No wonder the red sox this team is a fucking joke.

AD says:
pat says:

The red sox think the yankees are a joke? Where did you read that?

AD says:

Josh Beckett after his last start against the Yankees. “But they didn’t have one of their best players right? So I guess we’ll keep track starting now”

It was said with so much sarcasm it was almost as if he know the Sox can beat the yankees anytine anywhere.

Like I said. We can keep tricking ourselves with all the stats and bullshit justifications we want. At the end of the day, this team is not at the same level as the Red Sox and Phillies.

But of course, its stil early and they have plenty of time to figure it out.

Fcuking bullshit.

pat says:

Hahah I guess Josh Beckett’s daily douchebaggery means the Sox think they yankees are a joke. You’re right though this team isn’t nearly s good as the Red Sox or the Phillies so you might as well stop watching, cheering or even posting because all are a lost cause. The rest of us will stupidly try and be optimistic and look for reasons to beleive this is still a WS contending team. I guess we’re all just stupid assholes. Might as well cancel the season now because we’re like 30 games out.

 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

At the end of the day, the Sox are three games ahead of the Yanks on June 19. Three. That’s the bottom line.

You can isolate 9 games in any season to demonstrate a skewed view. The 2000 Yankees at one point lost seven in a row and and 15 of 18. And they won the World Series.

Oh, and what Josh Beckett thinks will not keep me up at night. It won’t even cause me a milisecond to reflect. If he thinks the Sox are so much better, why are they only three up on the Yanks?

 
 
 
 

Three games back with how many left to play? I still like the Yankees’ chances to come back.

Also: who fucking cares what the Sox think?

AD says:

No one cares what the sox think. Maybe that’s why this team turns into a bunch of pu$$ies against them. No one has cared since 2004 and that’s part of the problem.

But again Matty, keep using that crutch buddy. “How many games do they have left?”. I’m sure you were feeding yourself the same bullshit last year and ended up feeling like a jack ass.

We lost a series at home to the nationals. Unacceptable at any level.

If no one cares what the Sox think, why bring it up? The reason the Yankees are 0-8 against the Sox this year has nothing to do with being scared or being pussies or whatever other bullshit you want to throw out there, they lost the games on the field and that’s what matters. There are tangible reasons for every loss the Yankees have against the Sox this year.

And I guess I forgot that any time the Yankees fall back into second place the season is over. They should lead wire to wire. If it was August and I was saying what I did, then, yeah, that’s probably a little sill. But it’s not August, it’s June. If the Phils can make up a 7 game deficit with 17 games left to play, the Yankees can make up 3 game deficit with 96 games left to play.

Conan says:

I think the Nats series has started the panic and mayhem.

 
 
pat says:

What should the people who aren’t ready to give up on the season do? I mean this presumably is a blog for yankee fans who enjoy watching games and rooting for their team. You have obviously thrown in the towel, maybe you should start boning up on next years FA class so you can give Cashman suggestions for building a team who can compete with the Red Sox and Phillies. The rest of us are blindly going to root for a team that clearly has no shot at doing anything worthwhile this season.

 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

“We lost a series at home to the nationals. Unacceptable at any level.”

By your theory, the following teams should quit the season and go home now:

Boston (lost 2 of 3 to Seattle)
Philadelphia (lost 2 of 3 to S.D.)
Mets (lost 2 of 3 to Baltimore)

I think you should stop watching baseball and start watching college football or the NFL, where a very good team almost never loses to a bad team. But in baseball, bad teams beat good teams all the time.

Have you even looked at the numbers of the three pitchers that shut down the Yanks for the Nats? You should. All have WHIPs in the 1.3 range. Lannan has given up 1 earned run in his last 25+ innings.

AD says:

Oh my God. You just tried to justify the Yankees getting shut down by the Nationals with their pitchers stats.

Dude, what the hell has happen to Yankee fans? Are you really trying to justify and rationalize losing the series. I don’t know what to say. Its the nationals. They are the worst team in baseball and a joke. Theor manager was a day away from being fired. Their fans think they are the biggest joke in pro sports. But you just tried to rationalize and justify the Yankees losing to them. Wow.

Congratulations. You’ve officially completed your transformation into a pre-2004 Red Sox fan. Enjoy your constant state of doom and gloom, panic-button pressing, and overall malaise.

AD says:

Dude, if it gets me 2 world series championships in the next 5 years, I’m in.

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No one is saying that it’s okay. It’s inexcusable that they lost to the Nats like that. But we’re saying a three game series IN JUNE IS NOT THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD AR-TARD.

 
radnom says:

You arn’t too bright are you?

You realize this is baseball and not football, right?
Good teams lost to bad teams all the fucking time.

AD says:

I know what you’re saying man. But you just don’t see elite teams lose to the worst team in their sport and sleepwalk through a series. Its not normal, and I fear the Yankees keep brushing these games off with a “we’ll bounce back” attitude without doing anything for it.

Have the Yankees used their video room this season? Do they watch game film and try to fix the insane amount of mistakes they’ve made this season? Or is it that they jusy roll into the next game not worrying about what happened in the past?

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I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

“But you just don’t see elite teams lose to the worst team in their sport and sleepwalk through a series.”

Except that it happens all the time. In a 162-game baseball season, when you can’t get up for every series. They’re human.

The Yanks had just played games against their two biggest rivals (and Tampa before that). This is exactly when a letdown would happen.

Seriously, have you followed baseball before?

 

“we’ll bounce back” attitude without doing anything for it.

What are they supposed to say? “We lost a game! Oh no! The season’s over! Let’s just pack it up and try to win the Bryce Harper sweepstakes.”

 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

“All tickets will be good for credits for 2010 games, when we will have all-stars at every position, with a few more on the bench, just in case. Also, we promise in 2010 to go 162-0, and we will beat the Red Sox by at least five runs a game, while destroying last place teams by 20 runs a game. Oh, and we promise that we will make at least one opposing pitcher cry on the mound per game.”

 
 
 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

Yes, I am a BASEBALL fan who understands that in baseball, bad teams beat good teams ALL THE TIME.

And yes, horror of horrors, I’ve actually looked at the numbers to see that three developing good young arms beat the Yanks, not some 30something never-will-be retreads. The fact that the Nats lost those games earlier this season doesn’t mean that they can’t go on a hot run at some point. Have you watched a baseball season before? Seriously. I doubt it. Because you talk like a guy how thinks the baseball season is the same length as the NFL season.

Good lord how the hell do you make it 162 games living and dying with each freakin’ series? It’s baseball. Shit happens. We can lay a beating on Santana one day, and then lose to two young pitchers a couple of days later.

Seriously, if losing a series to a bad team is indefensible, why are the Phillies, Red Sox and Mets any better than us? They all lost series to inferior teams.

 
pat says:

THE FOLLOWING TEAMS WILL NOT MAKE THE 2009 PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE AUDACITY TO LOSE TO THE NATIONALS
Phillies
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Atlanta
Mets
Cardinals
Giants
Pirates
Orioles
Reds
Yankees.
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That is all.

AD says:

So all tjose teams dropped 2 out of 3 to them? I didn’t think so.

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What’s the difference? You’re talking about 3 games in a 162 game season.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
AD says:

Someone explain to me how Girardi doesn’t get fired after going 0-8 against the red sox and dropping a series against the worst team in baseball at home? The ownership is fielding a $200M+ team.

It makes no sense. Is Girardi any better than Willie Randolph was for the Mets? I don’t think so. Therefore, you fire Girardi.

8 games against one team in a 162 game season means nothing. You may think it does because you’re obsessed with the the Sox, but it doesn’t. If they had gone 0-8 against the Rays and 4-4 against the Sox instead of vice versa, you wouldn’t give two shits.

AD says:

Mike, the reason I give a shit is because that if this team makes the ALCS, I would bet my house that they will face the Sox. But based on the little I know about sports, there is a certain level of swagger and confidence you have to have against your opponent. And the Yankees don’t have that and haven’t had that against the Sox for quite some time. That Dave Roberts steal in 04 tipped the scale their way. We can deny it all we want, but that play was the catalyst that caused their fortunes to change and we haven’t been the same against them since. Screw the fact that it was the biggest choke in sports history. The more telling fact is that swagger factor hasn’t come back in our favor yet. It will at some point. Just don’t know when.

I understand baseball is the most quantifiable sport and you can segment and slice the data in ways to prove any point. But right now the product on the field isn’t at an elite level and hasn’t been all season. But again, its only June. Just like we said its only April and its only May.

You’re telling me they didn’t play at an elite level a few weeks ago when they won 17 of 20 or whatever it was?

You’re getting all worked up over something that’s not worth getting worked up about. I’m sure you were one of the people saying the Sox were going to WS last year after coming back in Game 5 of the ALCS, and I’m sure you thought they’d win Game 7 because Garza’s a hothead.

If the biggest problem with the team is swagger, then I’m fine with it. I’d rather lack swagger than the talent to win.

 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

Not to mention, since when do regular season results have any bearing on post-season results?

Need I remind you of the 2008 Angels?

Record v. Boston in the regular season: 8-1 (8 in a row after losing the first one, too)
Record v. Boston in the post-season: 1-3

 
 
 

Because firing him would be, well, stupid and unnecessary? Yeah, that sounds about right.

 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

That’s an easy question to answer:

Because Cashman is not an ignorant raving lunatic who doesn’t understand the first thing about how baseball works, and knows that in a 162-game season you’re going to have ups and downs.

Glad I could solve that for you.

AD says:

Ah yes. The same Cashman who has spent close to a billion dollars from 04-08 and yielded no championships whatsoever. The same cashman who has made so many questionable pitching decisions in his GM career that every other team other than the Yankees would have fired him by now

Please don’t try to support this team on the back of Cashman. Any GM could do the shit he’s done with unlimited resources.

Well, only the Red Sox, White Sox, Cardinals, and Phillies’ GMs aren’t failures since they’re the only ones to field championship teams from ‘04-08.

AD says:

Disagree. For many owners, a baseball team is nothing more than a business por revenue stream. More than half could probably care less about winning a ring. As long as they’re making their profits, its all good

The Yankees don’t function that way. Its always abt the team and winning. That’s why Cashman has been given unlimited resources. His time is nearing the end as it is. He maybe has one year, max two to bring a trophy to the Yankees. And if he doesn’t, goodbye and thanks for the memories

 
 
I Remember Celerino Sanchez says:

Again, your ignorance, as to when Cashman took control, and the work he’s done in undoing the damage of the previous years and rebuilding the farm system (that was barren) while unloading big contracts and malcontents whenever possible.

But that wasn’t my point. (Shocking that you missed the point, based on how knowledgeable and astute your comments are.) I have no desire to debate Cashman’s pluses and minuses with you.

My point was that any GM (ours happens to be Cashman) is not a raving lunatic (like, say, you) who would fire a manager based on 8 games in a 162-game season. Any GM has basic knowledge about how baseball works (as opposed to, say, you). It wasn’t at all about Cashman himself.

 
 
 
pat says:

CASHMEN DOESNT COMMENT ON TEH BLOGZ HES AN IDIOT

 
 
AD says:

Well, when I first started commenting there were only two comments. I’m glad my irrational thoughts sparked some healthy bashing and debates. Hopefully the Yankees use the same level of enthusiasm and fire that their fans all have for them (whther that be positive or negative).

Tonight we get to do it all over again and hopefully the results are more in our favor.

 
pc69 says:

Ok, enough about the 3 day debacle that was the nationals series. yankees lost 2 of 3, they played like crap, what is done is done.

the focus now needs to be on 2 of 3 from Florida and Atlanta with at least a sweep of one being preferable.

But here is a question, what is the opinion on Paplebon pitching for the Yankees in 2011? Have not looked at stats or other options but as of now, is Bruney the better option or heir apparent. I do not see any other alternatives in the system and Mo, will be less effective next year just based on natural decline.

curious to hear thoughts

 
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