You know the worst part is? When Hughes finally gets put in a game, most likely in Fenway, he’ll probably suck because he hasn’t pitched in over a week.
Which is precisely the reason that him being in the bullpen is a bad idea.
I have confidence that Cashman sees this and will rectify that and put him in the rotation in Scranton in short order, as soon as Wang throws at least one good start on the Blue Sox-Mets swing.
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Everyone needs to temper their expectations with Andy here. We were never expecting him to be a 120 ERA+ ace. We were expecting him to give us a 95-105 ERA+, basically a league average pitcher able to make every turn through the rotation and soak up 200+ innings at quality start level (4.50 ERA) so that we would have the roster flexibility to deal with the expected (Joba and Hughes being shut down/skipped/limited) and the unexpected (setbacks in Wang’s recovery, which has already happened, or injuries to other pitchers like Burnett and IPK, one of which has already happened.)
Andy’s not an ace. We didn’t ask him to be an ace. We asked him to pitch into the 6th and 7th inning and give us a chance to win… which he just did tonight.
Okay bro. First of all I never said anything about Andy that wasn’t true. I never said I didn’t want him. I simply said if Andy was not re-signed someone else would have pitched his innings which is a brutally obvious assertion. Please direct your condescending sarcasm to the rightful party.
I simply said if Andy was not re-signed someone else would have pitched his innings which is a brutally obvious assertion.
If the opening day rotation is CC-AJ-Wang-Joba-Hughes, when Wang shits the bed and goes to Tampa EXST, if Andy’s starts are Phil’s, then Phil’s seven starts are going to IPK (who’s hurt), Jason Johnson (who’s hurt), or we pull Aceves out of the bullpen and weaken it further, or we add Casey Fossum or Kei Igawa back to the 40-man.
“Andy Pettitte being resigned = good.”= opinion.
I never even said it was bad. What the hell is going on here? Pablo said it was bad.
Gimme a friggin break.
We know you LOVEEEEE AP. That’s fine. After his last start, if people want to say bad things about your buddy, they have the right. It does not make their judgment look “dumb.”
I was happy and jumping up and down. I nearly jizzed in my pants.
You’re snarky sarcasm wears very thin.
Just because you don’t like what a person says, does not make them or their remarks or judgments dumb. BTW, I’m not even the person that said anything bad about Pettitte other than he’s been outpitched by many of the guys he’s faced this year.
You’re not the Drew who said “someone” when the question was asked who would replace Pettitte? Or said he wasnt ‘irreplacable’ – which i never said he was, but who on the roster is going to replace what hes done so far?
Their remarks arent dumb because I disagree with them, they’re dumb because it’s the 4th inning and he gave up 3R (2ER) and they’re saying Hughes needs to take his spot, we should have never signed him, Aceves or Kontos could have replaced him just as well, etc. And he ends up going 6IP, 3R, 2ER and they’re no where to be seen
I think I said indispensable, and yes I said “someone.” Isn’t that obvious? Lol how is that anything bad about Andy?
As for someone on the roster replacing him, I never said he was or wasn’t on the current roster. Maybe it’s Alf, maybe it’s Hughes, maybe we make a trade when our number 2/3 starter performs horrendously out of the gate.
Maybe in hindsight it’s the best signing Cashman ever made in the history of the world. Maybe it’s not. Either way, I’m rooting for AP as hard as you. I don’t see why I’m at the brunt of your sarcasm.
Girardi: “Hey Phil don’t worry about not pitching in 10 days. All you have to do is get me out of a 2 on no out jam with Pedroia, Youkilis, and Bay comin up. That’s all.”
There going to send Hughes down in a few days when Bruney is ready to comeback. I dont think were going to use him anymore untill its time to call him back up.
Did anybody see the chat with the COO of MLB at ESPN.com? Saying that MLB rules on dimensions of new stadiums effected how close the Yankees could make the dimensions at new Yankee Stadium.
Bumpy (NYC)
with all the HR’s being hit at the new yankee stadium (100 so far this year), is there any talk of new stadiums in the future having specific minimum distances from home plate?
BOB DUPUY
We do have minimum dimensions at new ballparks. Due to the uniqueness of Yankee Stadium, there was an attempt to replicate it, but there are standards in place.
They did what they can, but it’s clear that the MLB rules did effect it, as the Stadium is not exactly like old Yankee Stadium.
Okay. He definitely doesn’t look 100%. I think someone here on RAB actually said that it looked like ARod was about as good as one could expect out of him now.
Not exactly. He said it’s great Hughes is going to help the Yankees in the bullpen but they shouldn’t put him as a starter. But Hughes to the bullpen is most likely temporary and he’ll be helping more as a starter.
Robertson is good but we haven’t seen enough of him yet. But you’re right, Robertson is dependable. And yes Coke does give a lot of HRs but most of the time he’s good.
I haven’t been to the new stadium, but it doesn’t seem like they play any music during at-bats…no organ, no “charge”, no slow claps, etc. Is this accurate? I feel like this could be a part of why it always seems so quiet.
I can’t wait for it. Especially with all the times he says “I just don’t see Hughes filling that spot in the pen” talk. Soon enough he’ll be talking about how Hughes should pitch the 7th and Joba the 8th.
Shut up shut up shut up, Kay! Hughes is not an “unexpected weapon” out of the BP. Is it shocking that a guy with two plus pitches can dominate in an inning? And, sure, he’s a weapon, but more like a pocket knife as opposed to starter Hughes, who’s a pretty high quality pistol or something. With the potential to be a shotgun.
For everyone above who was saying “Veras warming up in the pen” is the 6 scariest words a Yankee fan can hear:
Why is Veras the target of your ire and not Edwar Ramirez? I seriously want to know. Edwar has been WAY, WAY less effective than Veras and all the other Yankee pitchers in 2009 BY FAR, and yet Veras constantly got shit on this year much more than Edwar did.
I never understood that phenomenon. Why do you hate Veras worse than Edwar?
Personally I love Edwar. Veras has never been on my good side so he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.
At the same time, calling either of them effective so far THIS YEAR makes no sense.
Is it possible that Girardi has more faith in Coke than Coke’s parents? I don’t know that Coke is as bad as he seems sometimes, but Joe absolutely loves him.
Veras has a ton of potential. If he can get back the control he had last season, he’ll be a very valuable weapon out of the ‘pen. Giving up on him, and going as far as saying the Yankees should release him (as he has no options to simply be sent down) is ridiculous.
Veras pitched well for about 3 months last year. Outside of that, he hasn’t done anything. Suggesting that they should release Veras is far from ridiculous.
Well that was a fuckin’ waste. If this is how they continue to use Hughes out of the ‘pen, I’m going to be even more upset. I’m annoyed he’s there in the first place, but it’d be much better if he were used as Aceves is used.
I would imagine that they want Hughes to shadow Wang in Fenway, and this was to get him some in-game work prior.
Should Wang falter (I hope not), we should see Hughes go multiple innings. If Wang does falter and we don’t see Hughes, then he should be in Scranton. No way should he be used as a typical setup man.
If he’s going to be a one inning pitcher, demote him and get him back on a starting schedule to match Wang’s (so he can come back if Wang struggles) and get Melancon back up here.
The only reason I can think of using him for one inning is that he wants him to back up Wang on Wednesday. If not, then, I’m with you on being perplexed.
I could be completely wrong here, but perhaps Girardi is thinking that after an 11 pitch inning they can use Hughes to throw 3 or 4 on Wednesday if Wang implodes. Or he’s overmanaging again.
The only logical reason to pull Phil Hughes after an inning is that you’ve handcuffed him to Wang’s schedule and only gave him an inning here to keep him fresh.
who cares? if he throws a slider that breaks out of the zone and someone swings at it then GOOD, better then leaving a slider up and seeing it get hammered
that’s how he got there; if any other pitcher threw balls out of the zone and got outs we’d say how sick his stuff was and how the batters couldnt pitch up his arm slot.
You really don’t care how he got there? In the long run?
You feel perfectly fine going to a guy in the bullpen who throws no strikes just because he happened to get a zero? Heck, even Igawa got zeroes from time to time.
I dont think its hate towards Coke, although I am not his biggest fan he is certainly one of the better options out of the pen, its more hate to the way they used Hughes tonight.
It wasn’t at Coke, you’re right bu hate for Joe G’s over managing, the hate of Phil not being there but there was some hate towards Coke for performing “badly.”
One day Bill James will come up with some sort of stat that measures the “Berman Factor,” which indicates how much a particular broadcaster can influence one’s enjoyment of the game. Until that day, we may never know who sucks more.
Usually closer by committee fails because none of the guys are good enough to close. In the late 90′s the Reds had a healthy Danny Graves & Scott Williamson, who were completely abused, but used as a nice dual closer which worked well.
While I respect what Godzilla did for us he is so done.
I don’t understand why you sit Hughes for such a long time.
girardi should be terminated if phil doesn’t pitch today.
That has to be satire.
HAS TO BE.
Based on previous comments, I can promise you it is not.
it was, calm down. i thought that’d be obvious. but hughes really should get some work in.
true, he’s clearly the reason we’re in last place.
Really gotta put something together against Sonnestine, they guy is on pace for 100 pitch complete game…
that’s pretty pathetic against a pitcher of his caliber… our offense has fallen asleep the past few innings
Luckily, he’s not a good pitcher, so this “going down in order” thing is unlikely to continue.
How have the Yankees scored 3 runs, and Sonnanstine has only thrown 61 pitches through 5?
they haven’t worked the count and scored all the runs early.
Prior to the start of this half inning, Pettitte is averaging 6.2 pitches per AB.
Lot’s of K’s for Andy.
You know the worst part is? When Hughes finally gets put in a game, most likely in Fenway, he’ll probably suck because he hasn’t pitched in over a week.
I am plenty nervous for Hughes/Wang in a Little League park against a good lineup.
I’m actually confident in Wanger. I think he’s going to put it together.
Yep. then the Yankees will conclude he still needs more work in the minors.
Which is precisely the reason that him being in the bullpen is a bad idea.
I have confidence that Cashman sees this and will rectify that and put him in the rotation in Scranton in short order, as soon as Wang throws at least one good start on the Blue Sox-Mets swing.
BUST!!!!1!11!!11
Dont worry Tomko is warming up.
Would they really go to Tomko before Hughes? If they’re not going to use him over Tomko, please send him to AAA so he can get some work/innings in.
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Just hoping it will get Phil out of everyone’s system.
Hey, he’s throwing! Good job! YOU DID THAT WITH YOUR MIND!!!!
Yes, I did. Let me try that again.
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Dude, you misspell a woman’s name once, it’s over for you.
Sucks, too… you coulda had THOSE.
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+1
That is more like it, but I still prefer Hughes over Pettitte.
Everyone needs to temper their expectations with Andy here. We were never expecting him to be a 120 ERA+ ace. We were expecting him to give us a 95-105 ERA+, basically a league average pitcher able to make every turn through the rotation and soak up 200+ innings at quality start level (4.50 ERA) so that we would have the roster flexibility to deal with the expected (Joba and Hughes being shut down/skipped/limited) and the unexpected (setbacks in Wang’s recovery, which has already happened, or injuries to other pitchers like Burnett and IPK, one of which has already happened.)
Andy’s not an ace. We didn’t ask him to be an ace. We asked him to pitch into the 6th and 7th inning and give us a chance to win… which he just did tonight.
True. It just gets frustrating seeing the opposing team’s bottom end start consistently put out a better line than AP.
good point
+1. And in fact, Pettitte’s been just about what he should have been this whole year.
Hughes HAS to pitch the rest of this.
That was an A.J. Burnett start from Pettitte.
6 innings, over 100 pitches, 7 Ks, 3 walks.
you take that on most nights
Yup. Three of those in the rotation + a Joba start and a CC start = dominance.
Nice job by Andy.
103 pitches, let him come out for the 7th and go batter to batter.
not sure i like that, top of the order coming up
Yeah. Plus if JoeG’s iffy about Hughes coming in during the middle of inning…
Which is understandable, because Hughes is a starter. Starters are generally uncomfortable coming in mid-inning.
Yep. I’m all for yanking Andy.
uhhh. . . . care to rephrase that?
Good point, give it to Phil.
6 IP+3 ER=Quality start
only 2ER, so better then a quality start
yep, my bad
true. But that should not be the definition of a quality start. A starter should have to pitch 7 innings. 2/3 of a game should not qualify.
it depends on your definition of quality.
6innings, 3ER is a 4.50 era. In the AL as a 4-5 starter I’ll take that at the end of the year anytime.
7innings, 3ER is 3.86 era, is that just “quality” for a pitcher?
6 innings, 3 runs, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6K
wow get this guy out of the rotation
the horse is dead
+100
we need Kontos up here
no come on, lets DFA him and bring up “someone” and that someone will do just as good, if not better
Okay bro. First of all I never said anything about Andy that wasn’t true. I never said I didn’t want him. I simply said if Andy was not re-signed someone else would have pitched his innings which is a brutally obvious assertion. Please direct your condescending sarcasm to the rightful party.
Jesus Zach what has Andy done for you in the past week.
I think that should be deserving party. hmm..
I simply said if Andy was not re-signed someone else would have pitched his innings which is a brutally obvious assertion.
If the opening day rotation is CC-AJ-Wang-Joba-Hughes, when Wang shits the bed and goes to Tampa EXST, if Andy’s starts are Phil’s, then Phil’s seven starts are going to IPK (who’s hurt), Jason Johnson (who’s hurt), or we pull Aceves out of the bullpen and weaken it further, or we add Casey Fossum or Kei Igawa back to the 40-man.
Andy Pettitte being resigned = good.
“Andy Pettitte being resigned = good.”= opinion.
I never even said it was bad. What the hell is going on here? Pablo said it was bad.
Gimme a friggin break.
dude, that’s enough already, you made your point, but you’re way overdoing it and it wasn’t good to begin with
good, so dont make judgements about a pitcher halfway through a game because at the end it looks dumb
shame on me
We know you LOVEEEEE AP. That’s fine. After his last start, if people want to say bad things about your buddy, they have the right. It does not make their judgment look “dumb.”
Last start has nothing to do with the 4th inning of this game in which the prior 3 innings he had 6ks and gave up 2ER in the inning.
I’m sorry our #4 pitcher cannot have a bad game. CC gave up 5 ER in 8innings, what was your reaction during that game?
I was happy and jumping up and down. I nearly jizzed in my pants.
You’re snarky sarcasm wears very thin.
Just because you don’t like what a person says, does not make them or their remarks or judgments dumb. BTW, I’m not even the person that said anything bad about Pettitte other than he’s been outpitched by many of the guys he’s faced this year.
You’re not the Drew who said “someone” when the question was asked who would replace Pettitte? Or said he wasnt ‘irreplacable’ – which i never said he was, but who on the roster is going to replace what hes done so far?
Their remarks arent dumb because I disagree with them, they’re dumb because it’s the 4th inning and he gave up 3R (2ER) and they’re saying Hughes needs to take his spot, we should have never signed him, Aceves or Kontos could have replaced him just as well, etc. And he ends up going 6IP, 3R, 2ER and they’re no where to be seen
I think I said indispensable, and yes I said “someone.” Isn’t that obvious? Lol how is that anything bad about Andy?
As for someone on the roster replacing him, I never said he was or wasn’t on the current roster. Maybe it’s Alf, maybe it’s Hughes, maybe we make a trade when our number 2/3 starter performs horrendously out of the gate.
Maybe in hindsight it’s the best signing Cashman ever made in the history of the world. Maybe it’s not. Either way, I’m rooting for AP as hard as you. I don’t see why I’m at the brunt of your sarcasm.
Girardi: “Hey Phil don’t worry about not pitching in 10 days. All you have to do is get me out of a 2 on no out jam with Pedroia, Youkilis, and Bay comin up. That’s all.”
What I don’t understand is all the people screaming for Phil when he’s wildly inconsistent. Meanwhile, Andy has a strong 6th.
How do I apply for membership in the Andy Pettite fan club?
There going to send Hughes down in a few days when Bruney is ready to comeback. I dont think were going to use him anymore untill its time to call him back up.
Yeah I thought things were going to unravel but he did a good job regrouping after that bad inning. Gotta give credit there.
hughes!!!!!
phucking-finally.
I was surprised to see all the reliever talk. It’s not like Andy has been terrible.
i cant wait!!!
Girardi listens to the RAB Nation. He has a laptop in the dugout.
It is under YESNETWORK.
College baseball at its finest.
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1913834
Thank you for sharing that. Bravo.
HUGHES LIVES!
We’ve been smacking the shiznit out of the ball, just right at people. Major bummer yall.
That for instance, was hit at the people in the bleachers.
ok offense wake up
You ask and you shall receive
DAMON!!!!
A Damon Dinger!!!
How come Melancon isn’t in the Majors? He can’t be any worse than Veras. I’m just wondering.
There’s no room for him yet. And, he’s still seasoning and getting his confidence back.
Don’t worry, he’ll be back before August.
thats a brilliant question with absolutely no good answer
I think TSJC provided a great explanation above.
yea, didn’t see that
but i’d hope he’s here wayy before august
WHat can ya say about JD? He’s the friggin man. Let’s get AP the W and go home boys.
You hang em’ Damon bangs em’.
If only CMW was a homer hitting slugger… think of the possibilities!
LMAO
And, now, Andy Pettitte is in line for the win.
BOOYAH.
misleading stat!
This ump kills me with those slow, lazy, strike calls.
Its Tim Meclelland (pardon the spelling) he is famous for that. No game was more nerve-racking with his slow calls than Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS.
I live JD
*love
WHOOOOOO!!
Johnny D having a hell of a year this year.
Damon looked like he though it was a pop-up. BANDBOX!!!!
i fucking love johnny damon
I dunno, that Posada walkoff against the Angels was something else – that game was OVER, then Fuentes came out tossing 89 mph meatballs.
Id pick the win vs the Phillies.
Damon’s was the only ‘cheap’ homerun.
Ugh, Arod pads his OBP stats.
Did anybody see the chat with the COO of MLB at ESPN.com? Saying that MLB rules on dimensions of new stadiums effected how close the Yankees could make the dimensions at new Yankee Stadium.
he said that Yankee stadium was a special case because we wanted to replicate the historic old Stadium
Bumpy (NYC)
with all the HR’s being hit at the new yankee stadium (100 so far this year), is there any talk of new stadiums in the future having specific minimum distances from home plate?
BOB DUPUY
We do have minimum dimensions at new ballparks. Due to the uniqueness of Yankee Stadium, there was an attempt to replicate it, but there are standards in place.
They did what they can, but it’s clear that the MLB rules did effect it, as the Stadium is not exactly like old Yankee Stadium.
gotcha
I thought that was interesting. But I guess it’s not to the majority.
Thanks for sharing this.
I was under the impression that the straight fences were shorter than the old fences, which were curved.
“The Arson Squad”
+1 to Kay.
Man, Alex really is not running well.
How long til A-Rod is right, realistically??
All star break?
Some say he’s about out of “Spring Training mode” right now.
I dunno that 2-0 says different…
Def. makes us better though..
Okay. He definitely doesn’t look 100%. I think someone here on RAB actually said that it looked like ARod was about as good as one could expect out of him now.
Oh, I agree…
It was a legit question…
I’m not riding him.
is he ever going to be right this year? he still needs that secondary surgery after the season
lets see how phillip does here
Just checked on Gameday, that Tex strike 3 call was a ball
The ghost of philly?
Not you too Cone!
what he say? is he a B-hoser?
Not exactly. He said it’s great Hughes is going to help the Yankees in the bullpen but they shouldn’t put him as a starter. But Hughes to the bullpen is most likely temporary and he’ll be helping more as a starter.
94 mph
96 mph????
Nope. 94.
probably, but ESPN had 96 so yea! lol
Coke is up in the pen:
6 of the scariest words for Yankee fans in 2009.
6 of the scariest words for Yankee fans in 2009 = Coke Veras is up in the pen
damn formatting fail
6 of the scariest words for Yankee fans in 2009 = Coke Veras is up in the pen
WTF! It’s showing strike in the preview but not in the actual post
You can’t use the (s) tag. You have to use the actual (strike) tag.
7 words
that would be 7 words, but ietc anyway
well, it won’t strikeout “Coke”
Not as bad as Veras is up in the pen.
Veras definitely takes the cake there.
Really?
Really?
Coke is like the 3rd most reliable reliever right now.
eh, i’d say 4th cause robertson has been very good. but coke is decent.. his only problem is giving up a few too many HRs.
Robertson is good but we haven’t seen enough of him yet. But you’re right, Robertson is dependable. And yes Coke does give a lot of HRs but most of the time he’s good.
Very unfair. He’s been fine–1.16 WHIP. I dont think he’ll give up HR’s at this rate if he gets regular work all year.
i guess he can pump it up out of the pen. still think he and wanger should switch back
96 fastball, 77 curve… fucking wicked
I haven’t been to the new stadium, but it doesn’t seem like they play any music during at-bats…no organ, no “charge”, no slow claps, etc. Is this accurate? I feel like this could be a part of why it always seems so quiet.
NASTY!!!!
Longoria will have nightmares about that.
Boy o boy…
I like Hughes..
Like more than a friend.
THE B-HUGHES-ERS!!!!!
PHIL HUGHES IS A MAN!!!! HE’S 22!!!!!
Can you illustrate how good Hughes is with alligator math symbols please?
Age 22 and under MLB pitchers:
Rick Porcello >>> Phil Hughes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else
Thank you…
I’ve know Ricky since he was 12 so he has a special place in my heart.
No Kershaw?
You mean Koufax don’t you?
No. Hughes’s stuff is better than Porcello’s.
Meh, I don’t know about that.
Shit, Hughes was nasty as fuck that inning!!!!
It’s funny what guys with pretty legit stuff can do when they only have to pitch an inning or two.
Total
Domination.
Phil to teh 8th
and THAT is why he needs to be in the rotation. PHughes might finally be turning the corner.
And there it is. How long before Fatcessa starts screaming, “HUGHES IN THE 7TH AND JOBA IN THE 8TH!!!”
Mike is going to destroy the future of the Yankees.
Who doesn’t secretly hope that his Diet Coke is laced with arsenic one day?
I know I secretly hope that. Evil and I don’t care.
I’m sure he’s already screaming it.
I can’t wait for it. Especially with all the times he says “I just don’t see Hughes filling that spot in the pen” talk. Soon enough he’ll be talking about how Hughes should pitch the 7th and Joba the 8th.
Just got some chills
ive just been blown away by phils sheer greatness
That was great to see.
Hughes just got himself a new fanboy… Mike’d up!
Phil Hughes is a STARTING PITCHER!
F*ck it, lets go oldschool on this bitch. Phranchise for the 3 inning save….
-pat
but does 3 innings rule him out for Wednesday’s game?
Ima be an optimist and say we won’t need him. But you’re right that could preclude him from pitching incase cmw gets roughed up.
Considering Mo has pitched the last 2 days in a row I wouldnt mind seeing Hughes finish this game if possible.
I’m loving tomorrow. The draft and Yanks vs Sox.
hells yea
Draft @ 6 MLB Network yes?
yes
great! i’ll be at work. need something to do…
I believe the next day is on ESPN 2, yeah?
Oh man, McLouth going yard against the pirates must hurt sooooooo bad.
Laroche is crying in the corner.
If Girardi lets him finish the game out, then he keeps him stretched out (3 innings) and gets valuable innings out of one of their best arms.
Who needs a bridge to Mo? This is pre-1970′s bullpen use.
+6591
So is Hughes coming out for the 8th? Or did they just want to get him an inning so he’s fresh to back up Wang in the Fens?
okay, let’s add some insurance runs (like 5) and get Hughes the save
hey look a gb to second
matsui kinda sucks
man, we have had some hard hit balls that were caught
Can Kay just stop acting like that little kid in the park who gets up from the seat on every fly ball to the outfield thinking it is a HR?
Who else wants some more social commentary from Boomer?
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The B-Hughesers are rallying
Ladies, ladies, ladies! Jay and Silent Bob are in the hizzouuuuuuse!
1, 2, 1-2-3-4/
Noinch, noinch, noinch/
Smokin’ weed, smokin’ weers/
Doin’ coke, drinkin beers/
Drinkin’ beers, beers, beers/
Rollin’ fatties, rollin blunts/
Who smokes the blunts? We smoke the blunts/
Rollin blunts and smokin blunts and…
Shut up shut up shut up, Kay! Hughes is not an “unexpected weapon” out of the BP. Is it shocking that a guy with two plus pitches can dominate in an inning? And, sure, he’s a weapon, but more like a pocket knife as opposed to starter Hughes, who’s a pretty high quality pistol or something. With the potential to be a shotgun.
potential to be a .50 caliber machine gun that just cuts bitches down.
Haha nice.
Holy schneikes I’m uber suprised kay and cone didn’t mention it was Andy v Andy tonite.
Unless they did and I missed it.
For everyone above who was saying “Veras warming up in the pen” is the 6 scariest words a Yankee fan can hear:
Why is Veras the target of your ire and not Edwar Ramirez? I seriously want to know. Edwar has been WAY, WAY less effective than Veras and all the other Yankee pitchers in 2009 BY FAR, and yet Veras constantly got shit on this year much more than Edwar did.
I never understood that phenomenon. Why do you hate Veras worse than Edwar?
Ramirez isnt in the bullpen anymore?
yea, that’s the only reason I said that or else I would also have chosen Edwar
Probably the same reason everyone went apeshit when Pettitte had one bad inning tonight. Which is to say, I have no idea.
veras’ era is about a run and a half higher than edwar’s
Personally I love Edwar. Veras has never been on my good side so he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.
At the same time, calling either of them effective so far THIS YEAR makes no sense.
Both have been awful…trust me, if Ramirez was still in the bigs and he was warming in the pen, those would be six scary words.
Ramirez is in AAA now. Simple as that for me at least. They both suck.
So is Matsui or Swisher going to sit against NL teams?
gotta be matsui. no way they’re sending him out to right.
I’m guessing Matsui, given that Matsui can’t play RF.
The way Matsui is playing he may be soon sitting against AL & NL teams.
Why is this even a question?
I will be lighting a candle everyday from now until the Yanks play the NL away games in order to keep Matsui out of the field.
Swisher heating up again
WTF why only 1 inning?
Look out, Girardi’s managing again. Fuck.
Hey Girardi, come on, stop with the “cerebral” lefty-righty jazz and go with the more basic “who’s grooving” (Hughes) and who isn’t (Coke)
WTF Coke is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????
why the f*ck would they take hughes out after that inning?
Is it possible that Girardi has more faith in Coke than Coke’s parents? I don’t know that Coke is as bad as he seems sometimes, but Joe absolutely loves him.
Veras has a ton of potential. If he can get back the control he had last season, he’ll be a very valuable weapon out of the ‘pen. Giving up on him, and going as far as saying the Yankees should release him (as he has no options to simply be sent down) is ridiculous.
oh I get it your funny
Veras pitched well for about 3 months last year. Outside of that, he hasn’t done anything. Suggesting that they should release Veras is far from ridiculous.
Yes it is ridiculous. A hard throwing reliever like Veras has value. You don’t just give that up.
Not if the strike zone is only a rumor to him.
Just one inning for Hughes?
Well that was a fuckin’ waste. If this is how they continue to use Hughes out of the ‘pen, I’m going to be even more upset. I’m annoyed he’s there in the first place, but it’d be much better if he were used as Aceves is used.
If he goes 2 innings, can he be used for 3+ on Wednesday after Wang?
I would imagine that they want Hughes to shadow Wang in Fenway, and this was to get him some in-game work prior.
Should Wang falter (I hope not), we should see Hughes go multiple innings. If Wang does falter and we don’t see Hughes, then he should be in Scranton. No way should he be used as a typical setup man.
Agreed.
If he’s going to be a one inning pitcher, demote him and get him back on a starting schedule to match Wang’s (so he can come back if Wang struggles) and get Melancon back up here.
The only reason I can think of using him for one inning is that he wants him to back up Wang on Wednesday. If not, then, I’m with you on being perplexed.
WOW what a gem by Kay huh?
Yankees having their “Phil” of relief?
okay Cokey, get through this inning and we’re good
Did Hughes die while in the dugout between the bottom of the 7th and the top of the 8th? Otherwise, there isn’t a good reason Coke is in there.
Girardi has a coke problem.
So does Pena apparently.
lol ietc
umm didn’t Pena crush Coke earlier this season?
good job there…the big lefties seem to always be looking slider to crush and Coke goes w/ the fastball…I like it
“If you’re a Yankees fan, you hope he is Phil Coke Zero.”
Chris Berman speaking => Facepalm
That doesn’t make sense.
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I think it’s an improvement
WTF, why is hughes out after 1 inning!?!
maybe theyre still scared about wang and just getting hughes an inning so he can go after wng at fenway?
That Girardi always has a damn reason for making stupid moves, aand half the time they suck!
That Girardi always has a
damnreason for makingstupidmoves, andhalfmost of the time they‘resuckproven right!Fixed that for ya.
Horray
Your guess is as good as mine as to why Phil didn’t go longer.
Stupid overmanaging
Coke hasn’t thrown a strike in the inning.
9 straight balls, 3 of which were swung at.
what’s wang’s leash before they flip him back to the pen? two more 5 run outings? 3? 1? i want hughes back in the rotation
oh good 4 pitch walk awesome they never hurt late in games
Zobrist walks on 4 pitches …..
I could be completely wrong here, but perhaps Girardi is thinking that after an 11 pitch inning they can use Hughes to throw 3 or 4 on Wednesday if Wang implodes. Or he’s overmanaging again.
Sure lets use Hughes on Wed basically in mop-up duty instead of making sure they actually win this game.
Well I personally have complete faith that using Coke and Rivera will be just as effective in winning the game as leaving Hughes in
Wednesday isnt necessarily mop-op duty for Hughes. Wang has a pitch limit and we’re facing Wakefield.
Coke got the job done, Mo for the 9th
That’s the only way it makes sense.
The only logical reason to pull Phil Hughes after an inning is that you’ve handcuffed him to Wang’s schedule and only gave him an inning here to keep him fresh.
Yep, not necessarily sure I agree with the strategy, but that’s the only thing I can think of
If Coke blows this game, Girardi better not read this blog….
He’s up to a total of one strike thrown in the inning.
who cares? if he throws a slider that breaks out of the zone and someone swings at it then GOOD, better then leaving a slider up and seeing it get hammered
He threw 9 straight fastballs high and outside.
8. Ball 4 was low and inside. But still a fastball.
and he pitched a scoreless inning, i dont care how he gets there, just care about the 0 he threw up
Apparently the thought of that 0 is irrelevant.
I forgot, the 0 runs he gave up is a misleading stat
You should care how he gets there. Would you send the blind squirrel out to gather your nuts?
1 IP, 1 BB, 1 K.
that’s how he got there; if any other pitcher threw balls out of the zone and got outs we’d say how sick his stuff was and how the batters couldnt pitch up his arm slot.
You really don’t care how he got there? In the long run?
You feel perfectly fine going to a guy in the bullpen who throws no strikes just because he happened to get a zero? Heck, even Igawa got zeroes from time to time.
I care. Hughes got misses on pitches in the strike zone. That’s impressive.
The Wave? In the 8th inning of a division game? Please tell me that I didn’t see that.
wave= super lame
I now do opposite waves.
I stand when everyone else is sitting and sit when everyone else is getting up. It’s super fun.
Well at least Coke got it done.
WTF? Over-manage.
Man, Teixeira makes all of the infielders a lot better. That was a mediocre throw by Jeter, but Teix got it easily.
Something I’ve come to expect… both from Jeter/Arod and Tex
So is it Mo tonight, or D-Rob in the 9th given he was warming.
With this much hate you’d think Coke gave up the lead and gave up 10000000 runs.
I dont think its hate towards Coke, although I am not his biggest fan he is certainly one of the better options out of the pen, its more hate to the way they used Hughes tonight.
It wasn’t at Coke, you’re right bu hate for Joe G’s over managing, the hate of Phil not being there but there was some hate towards Coke for performing “badly.”
Nice insurance.
jeetjeetjeet
Jetes with a big f u to AS
CAP’N!
Wooo!
bandbox ahahahahahahahahaha
Looks like the Yankees saw the pace had fallen on the MLB.com Yankee Stadium HR tracker and wanted to kick it back up a notch.
bam. just add a little essence and BAM. now thats what im talking about.
DEREK JETER IS A MAN!!!! HE’S ALMOST 40!!!!!
IETC
Is that one considered a BANDBOX cheapie? Probably not, right?
I still think Joe should have left Hughes in for the 8th, it’s not like he didn’t have the stuff or the endurance. Coke always makes me worry.
Call me crazy…but I really like Coke..
No I do.
+1
+2
=3
Just to clarify, I like Coke as a pitcher.
I shudder to think about those of you watching ESPN in this HR barrage.
i worry that espn would be better than kay tonight. about 5 or more times in the past THREE INNINGS ive wanted to jump through the tvand beat his ass
One day Bill James will come up with some sort of stat that measures the “Berman Factor,” which indicates how much a particular broadcaster can influence one’s enjoyment of the game. Until that day, we may never know who sucks more.
Aite!!! I was hoping we’d get one more here
Our 1-3 hitters have one hit each…a HR
Now it’s be complete with our 4 hitter.
choate= too close to choad
Um, did Randy Choate just steal Papelfuck’s little head turn towards the mound? Or did Papelfuck steal it from Choate?
And didn’t that Red Sox experiment fail because their committee guys sucked, not because of the approach?
Usually closer by committee fails because none of the guys are good enough to close. In the late 90′s the Reds had a healthy Danny Graves & Scott Williamson, who were completely abused, but used as a nice dual closer which worked well.
Graves, Williamson, and Sullivan combined for over 300 innings in one year out of the pen for the ’99 Reds….yikes.
I appreciate Berman bringing up game 6 of the 2001 WS. That was a good memory.
Time for Arod to stat pad.
IETC
I would less than three that a lot
This game has gone by fast.
time for a new thread
HOLY CRAP I THINK JASON ISRINGHAUSEN ATE BILL PULSIPHER AND PAUL WILSON.
Hahaha IETCVM.
Izzy got BIG, no?
lol at Boo’s…
Aaaaaand Michael Kay bringing up the Red Sox’s 2003 BP again.
How were Brandon Lyon, Chad Fox, Alan Embree, and BK Kim going to save games? It didnt matter what kind of BP they had.
(Am I forgetting any awful arms from that ridiculously bad BP?)