Game 61: Getting back on track

2009 Draft: Yanks sign Hall
Game 61 Spillover Thread

After going through a particularly bad break-up, a friend might tell you that the best way to get over someone is to find someone else. In a similar fashion, the Yankees will try to use the Mets to get over the Red Sox. Only problem is that this is like a blind date. The two teams have not met this season, so no one really knows what to expect.

Of course, you can talk about the aspects of the woman which you’ve seen in others. For instance, your first date post-breakup might be with a woman whose eyes remind you of a friend’s from college. The Mets’ starting pitcher might remind the Yankees of someone they’ve faced in the recent past.

The Yankees used Livan Hernandez and the Arizona Diamondbacks as a springboard back to prominence in 2007. The Yankees entered the series at 31-31, but swept the D’Backs after sweeping the Pirates. They did stumble after that, but went on to have an explosive second half, going from 43-43 at the All-Star break to finishing the season at 94-68. So, to those hitting the panic button…

Livan Hernandez did not last long in the middle game of that series, surrendering nine hits and five walks in four innings, leading to seven runs. The Yanks took the game easily, 7-2. The Yanks also faced the Yanks as a member of the Twins in 2005, and the Yanks laid it to him again, though not in as emphatic a fashion. They collected 13 hits en route to five runs in six innings. Kyle Farnsworth allowed a run in the bottom of the eighth, though, breaking a tie and giving the Twins a victory.

Joba Chamberlain has faced the Mets just once in his career, and that came before his transition to the rotation last year. It was one of his poorer relief appearances, as he allowed a run in one inning of work, a tack-on in the ninth of a 7-4 Yanks loss. So this will be Joba’s first time in the spotlight of starting a Subway Series game.

The bad news for the lineup, according to Carig, is that Johnny Damon is having vision tests done, and that the left fielder’s eyes “haven’t been normal for a couple of weeks.” His BA (.206) and OBP (.325) are down since June 1, but his SLG (.529) is plenty fine. I guess Johnny’s having some problems seeing the ball (::cough:: droppedflyball ::cough::), but when he does make contact he’s still hitting the cover off it. Of the seven hits he’s had this month, five have been for extra bases. He’s also drawn six walks and struck out seven times, so hopefully this is just a minor thing.

Lineup:

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Nick Swisher, RF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Hideki Matsui, DH
8. Melky Cabrera, LF
9. Brett Gardner, CF

And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain

Injury Update by Ben: We’ve got pre-game word on a pair of injured Yankee pitchers. From the sound of things, Brian Bruney could be activated tomorrow without a rehab stint. I guess he was motivated by last night’s 8th inning shenanigans. Meanwhile, Joe Girardi told WFAN this afternoon that Damaso Marte will be visiting Dr. James Andrews. (Hat tip to Rebecca’s Tweeting.) That’s certainly news we don’t want to hear about a player signed through 2011.

2009 Draft: Yanks sign Hall
Game 61 Spillover Thread
  • JobaWockeeZ

    Why bring Bruney in earlier? He might get injured again and that’s something I don’t want to have to endure.

    • Drew

      I don’t think it’s really early, it’s just instead of pitching in Scranton, we’ll use him here. We definitely need him.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        I agree that we need him and I hope you’re right. Bruney is definitely one of the bets bullpen pieces and him healthy for the season would be a tremendous boost.

  • e mills

    Mark Teixeira apparently not a big fan of John Henry

    • Lily

      ye after his twiiter said the curse on MT

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    That $6M option sure looks good now, doesn’t it?

    • Jamal G.

      Sure do a lot of other things with the use of hindsight vision.

      • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Hey, I was against that deal from the beginning.

        • Jamal G.

          OK, that’s fair.

  • Drew

    I hope Bruney is back for good… Also, about X, a little soreness today after increasing throwing distance yesterday. I hope this isn’t a set back.

  • e mills

    Sooooo Marte is just now going to see Andrews? Couldn’t they have done that back in March/April?

    • thurdonpaul

      im guessing, had they known then, what they know now, they would have

      • e mills

        just saying that this isn’t the first time this season that the phrase “somebody dropped the ball” could be thrown around…

        • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

          Oh, (insert a shitload of curses here).

          Maybe I’m ignorant about Big Bizness, but why don’t their top 25 pitchers get checked in B’ham each spring?

          Then MRI each player in the org annually?

          Buy a :)”?|#?*¥ MRI machine for the Bandbox.

  • E-ROC

    I hope they are making the right decision with Brian Bruney. He shouldn’t be rushed back because of three games in Boston.

    Ben, its always good news when you go see Dr. Andrews. Think good news, Ben!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Hey Johnny’s problems aren’t just his eyes.

    He couldn’t focus last night and had to rely on other outfielders to guide him to the ball (h/t bryan hoch)

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      So he was drinking too? Just kidding. Hopefully he gets back fast.

  • Lily

    im just hoping the yankees take 2/3. i hope joba doesn’t give up 5 runs in the first and is 3-1, 3-0 on every batter so that his pitch count is at 100 in the fourth. livan has been pitching very good so i hope the bats wake up especially with risp!

  • Mike HC

    I feel like Dr. James Andrews has to be overrated at this point. I guess he is a reliable doctor, but can he be the only guy. Can he really be the only doctor alive who has credibility? Is he the only guy who has ever successfully done shoulder/elbow surgeries? How much does he charge compared to other guys? I would love a feature article on this guy. Who is he and how did he get so famous?

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.
    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime
      • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

        Beat ya.

    • Jamal G.
    • Jamal G.

      http://tinyurl.com/5o8lgn

      You know how I found these two lengthy articles so quickly? I entered “article on Dr. James Andrews” in the Google search toolbar. ;)

    • John

      Ehh he’s going out of style. It’s all about Marc Phillipon now.

    • Mike HC

      Thanks everyone for their quick responses, but all this stuff is already out there. I want to know some of the behind the scenes, business details. How does he have no other credible competition?

      • e mills

        E:60 should do something…ESPN sucks but they do alright things sometimes

  • Mike HC

    Damon’s vision has not been normal for a couple of weeks now? That just seems odd to me. Something seems off there. I don’t know.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      It could be a symptom of something reallyty really wrong. Colored me worried.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Like what? He might have simply had Lasik recently, and occasional blurriness is a common side effect for quite some time.

        He is in his mid-30’s, even a loss of some vision wouldnt be all that unusual.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Hey Ortiz got his eyes checked and he got 2 HR’s off us. Who knows.

  • Ivan

    Yankees really should kill Hernandez.

    He’s Livan Hernandez, not Felix Hernandez.

  • Jake

    Glad to be back at RAB with internet again.

    Predicting 3 for 4 tonight for A-Rod.

  • thurdonpaul

    come on yanks, lets kick ASSSSSSS tonight

  • Ivan

    Oh great, now I gotta hear that yankee hating bitch Gary Cohen.

  • Lily

    actually if we couldn’t get anything done against wakefield or penny what makes me think they will be able to do anything against livan or tomorrow’s starter? i wouldn’t be shocked if they can’t get anything done

    • John

      *We didn’t get anything done with RISP. Other than that, we got on base for several opportunities.

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Is it me or has McDonald’s been going crazy with advertising? Everywhere I look there is an andertisement. I will be 400 pounds by the end of this year.

  • LC

    Michael Kay just said, “Joba ready, Reyes ready, let’s go,”…

    Does he realize that Alex Cora is at the plate?

    • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      We’re all the same. Don’t you know?

      • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

        I am Puertorican and I take offen…eh…who am I kidding? You’re right.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    Shouldn’t Dr. James Andrews be in the Baseball HOF. Has anyone had a greater impact on the game?

    • pat

      I agree. He’s a career saver.

  • pat

    we need to work these sumbitches tonight boys and girls.

  • Jake

    Pretty first inning.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    I haven’t insulted the Yankees all week. I just feel like it’s a live with the team, die with the team type of thing. But if we don’t win this weekend, I could be talked into it.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    How cool would it be if James Andrews had a blog? Or at least a twitter?

    • Ivan

      “As im doing surgery on Putz, his career might be over. LOL”

      Dr. James Andrews.

    • Drew

      Dr. J, via Tweet:
      Removing elbow ligament, back with more lata.

      • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        It’s creepy to see how ordinary that is for him…

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Livan only throws 83!!! Forget the 8th, to the 6th!!!

  • Ivan

    Wow Gary Cohen. Callin DJ fly ball a pop up…on purpose. Fuckin Cock.

    • Drew

      Why are you watching SNY!?

      • Ivan

        Cuz….I don’t know.

  • Mike HC

    Where the hell are the wind streams when we need them!! Two warning track shots??

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Jeter is killing me with the near misses But not as much as my dying computer.

  • John

    We’ll get him hopefully…we did get two pretty deep flyballs

  • Double T

    A-Rod deep shot to left field to start the next inning.

    • John

      A-rod does OWN Livan.

  • John

    what is up with Joba and his velocity, he’s only hitting 90-91 again. Are his mechanics that much out of whack?

  • pat

    How do you boo the sheff? I loved him here.

    • Bob Stone

      I agree – He was great with the Yanks even if he did think that Torre is a racist. I wouldn’t boo him.

    • Drew

      +1, I’d cheer for him. He is the ONLY Met that I actually root for.

      • Drew

        *not this weekend of course!

      • John

        me too…unless its against the Yanks like now

        • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

          Are you guys suddenly batshit insane?!

          We boo Arod here…

  • Double T

    Tex flashing the leather!

  • Drew

    Jober’s got a little dive on the FB tonight.

  • pat

    Weird, the slider is at it’s normal velocity but the FB isn’t.

    • John

      yea, saw that but its working for him…he’s getting some strikes with it.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Some nice defense there

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Seinfeld episode they’re at the Stadium.

  • John

    31 pitches through 2…not bad but could be better

    • Marcus

      I’m more worried about only 16 of 31 pitches being strikes. Lot of first pitch balls.

      • John

        Im slightly worried about the lower velocity but not much

  • Drew

    Oh shit, Phils and Sox on CSN, go Phils!

    • John

      Yes go phils make up for the times you guys beat us!

  • pat

    How fucking fast do those windows go up “when the vehicle senses a crash?”. I mean come on you’d need a good 20 seconds before you crash to get the windows all the way up, thats such crap. Unless they go up at about 1000 MPh theres no way that can actually help.

    • Double T

      Big Brother knows all

    • Drew

      lol I’ve wonder that too.

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        And lop off three fingers…

  • Ivan

    Anybody watching the Stanley cup finals game 7?

    • Drew

      The what? lol

  • Christopher

    Has A-Rod started wearing one of those Phiten titanium necklaces. I can’t say I remember seeing one of them round his neck before?

    • Drew

      Saw that, definitely new.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Teh bandbox!!1

  • Jake

    Don’t ya know.

  • Drew

    Whaddya know

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Robbie Cano … we all know!!!

  • Ivan

    Robbie Cano, don’t ya know.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Robbie!

  • pat

    Dammit, robbie interrupted a good story of al leiter striking out coney with a nasty hook.

    • Double T

      that was a funny story, those guys must be a riot when they are off camera.

  • John

    Still didn’t get that walk! SO lazy…he opted to jog around the bases instead of hitting in play and hustling around them.

  • Drew

    Soprano’s guy wasn’t even watching the HR.

  • Dela G

    ROBBBBIEEEEE CANOOOOOOO!!!

  • Ivan

    Po po in da house.

  • Drew

    Posada’s blazing speed on the base paths almost got him a triple!

  • Bob Stone

    Phillies just went up 1-0 on the BoSox – Go Phils!

  • John

    Woohoo Phils 1 Sux 0

    • Drew

      Ibanez ripped a single off a curveball a minute ago. He’s ridic.

  • Drew

    4 outs, 4 balls hit very hard.

  • pat

    Melky shoulda been 5-10 in that sox series he wuz robbed a couple times.

    • John

      yea, looking at his LD% and BABIP, he’s been kinda unlucky this year and he’s still improved

      • pat

        heh well its not that difficult to improve on last year.

        • John

          true

  • pc69

    Just catching up. How does Joba look?

  • Double T

    Has there been any update on Wang and the birth of his child?

    • John

      I think they’re inducing birth on Tuesday

      • Double T

        thx

    • pc69

      joba needs to focus on teh batter… they can’t hit him.

  • Ivan

    I was lookin at some #’s and nobody is talking about how good Slowey has been this season.

    • Ivan

      maybe not that great but still.

  • pat

    I love going to games alot but going to yanks/mets or sox/yanks makes me so ridiculously angry. I hate seeing those bastards in our stadium.

    • JackC

      I don’t get Yankee fans who are virulently anti-Met. I find the Mets kind of cute, actually, what with their theme song and their multiple uniforms and their Mr. Met. Adorable.

      • pat

        I dunno, something about them really rubs me the wrong way. I think it has something to do with how cocky they seem. Any team in the AL east besides the orioles could play in the NL East and win about 110 games a season. I just want them to know its not that hard what they’re doing.

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          You’re right, the Orioles would win 120. After all, they have that Wieters kid, I heard his tears cure cancer.

        • JackC

          Fair point.

  • pc69

    Here is hoping for the best this weekend. Yankees sweep (even though last night in a fit of rage I said they would be swept), Phillie sweep, Nationals take 2/3 from Tampa and the Marlins take 2/3 from Toronto.

    And for the cherry on top, Fatcessa and his clone army swallow his microphone.

    • John

      EVERY NL team sweeps the AL team, except the Mets get swept.

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    0-2 RISP

    • Drew

      1-0. 3rd inning.

      • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

        1-1 and Joba not looking good. Yanks need to pick up those runs….

  • Double T

    I don’t live in NY, what was Francesca’s opinion of this last series with the Red Sox?

    • LiveFromNewYork

      I don’t listen to that fat blowhard on a good day.

  • Christopher

    Melky, Swisher, Jeter and Posada (who actually got a hit) have all hit balls to the warning track. We should be jumping all over Hernandez.

  • pat

    93… nice.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Who was in charge of RAB twitters last night? They were really angry tweets. (angry tweets sounds stupid)

    • John

      Mike said it was Ben

      • LiveFromNewYork

        I think his brain split in two. He was spewing.

  • BigBlueAL

    Of course Alex Cora has become a leader, because Alex Cora wins baseball games.

  • pat

    Call me biased but outside of Wright/Beltran absolutely nobody in the lineup scares me. How are they even above .500?

    • zs190

      Johan has been good and they have a good bullpen. Wright and Beltran have been really good. Beyond that, they play the Nationals a lot.

  • Coach6423

    How tight is this guys zone? Gameday is showing lots of balls being called in the zone….is this accurate, I have no tv tonight?

    • John

      he is giving that outside call though

    • Bob Stone

      Job is throwing a lot of balls. 43 pitches only 21 strikes and he is not getting squeezed by the ump IMO.

  • John

    that ball 1 was a strike in gameday

  • Drew

    Checkin the Phils, is anyone else surprised that Blanton hasn’t worked out? I thought he was a good pitcher in Oak.

    • JackC

      I haven’t seen his home/road splits, but I think that ballpark does a number on pitchers, perhaps. Their away record is significantly better.

    • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      He’s been really good of late, but he has always given up a lot of homers.

  • Dorian

    Can we somehow lock Gary Cohen in the booth? That guy makes Kay sound like he is calling a JV hockey game.

  • JP

    Watching gamecast….3-2 on every batter. Is he missing as badly as it looks?

  • BigBlueAL

    How the hell do you walk Brian Schneider and Alex Cora in the same inning.

    • Drew

      FB location is a little wild early.

  • Dorian

    Dammit posada let him throw what he wants.

    • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      I’m not so sure…Posada doesn’t always call the greatest game.

      • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Wait, I misread what you said. Reading comp fail.

    • JP

      I haaaaaaaaaaate when Posada argues with the pitcher…

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        Except for that night with Veras!

  • BigBlueAL

    Posada and Joba nowhere near on the same page.

    • Double T

      Jorge is barking at Joba

    • Drew

      They both wanted the same thing. Unfortunately, one of them fouled up the multiple signs.

  • JP

    Damon “fluttering” eyes. I’m a doctor…that sounds bad. It could be nothing, but there are alot of really bad things it could be.

  • Drew

    WTF is with Eilands little facial expression there?

  • pc69

    Kevin Long looks like Phil Mickelson’s brother.

    • the artist formerly known as (sic)

      +1

  • BigBlueAL

    Fucking Joba.

  • pc69

    Posada CANNOT control Joba…

  • BigBlueAL

    2 walks and a HBP against straight scrubs and now the only 2 hitters on the Mets are up with the bases loaded.

  • Ivan

    You walk Brian Schneider and Alex Cora and now you hit Martinez, not good at all.

  • Drew

    Nasty fucking pitch.

  • pat

    Damn, todd linden was sold to japan.

    • Drew

      We better get some Geishas or some shit.

  • Drew

    CHange that mafucker up again.

  • John

    cmon Jobber get out unscathed

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    A ballsy call–curve/slider in the dirt–please?

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    MICHAEL KAY YOU ARE A GUN WHORE.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    I love when Coney says “Irregardless”. Makes my day.

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Down-and-in curve, let’s go.

  • Drew

    So much for a rhythm.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    C’mon Joba, do this shizz.

  • John

    FUK

  • Drew

    GIDP please.

  • BigBlueAL

    Joba must be seeing Red Sox uniforms.

  • Andy Stankiewicz

    60 pitches is the 3rd inning ??

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    down-and-away curve people!

    • Drew

      joo got it meng

      • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        IETC

  • Drew

    Sit down tomko

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    By the way, don’t be surprised if Joba doesn’t come back out for the fourth. The Yanks have an organizational rule that no young pitcher can throw 30+ pitches per inning, and he’s topped 30 thus far in the third.

    • Drew

      He throws long innings all the time. He’ll be back.

    • the artist formerly known as (sic)

      o rly?

  • John

    Phil hughes syndrome? cant finish em off

  • Ivan

    This 3rd is really killing Joba pitch count.

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    *huge exhale*

  • JP

    66 pitches…still in the 3rd.

  • BigBlueAL

    Hey any talk on who gets sent down/DFA when they activate Bruney???? I have a feeling Berroa will be DFA and they will go back to carrying 13 pitchers.

    • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Nah, that’s too logical. They’ll option Robertson.

  • pc69

    CC was good last night but our starters seem to be struggling. Is it just a turn in the rotation, some misconnection with Posada (they don’t seem to have as many issues with Cervelli), or some misconnection with Eiland?

    The whole staff cannot suffer this bad at the same time.

    • V

      Sometimes, sometimes, a failure to execute doesn’t have a larger reason.

  • Drew

    oh man. fuck.

  • jr

    Do our pitchers have something against throwing strikes?

    • Drew

      he’s trying dude.

      • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

        Really? As opposed to him not trying?

        • Drew

          Well, considering what I responded to was “Do our pitchers have something against throwing strikes?” I thought it needed to be said.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      Yeah because he’s had 2 strikes on every hitter so far. He’s pitching away from contact.

  • BigBlueAL

    This is ridiculous, 2 runs on 3 bb’s and 2 hbp’s. Unreal.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    I’m really confused right now. Two hit batters in one inning? Walked in a run? This isn’t Joba Chamberlain…

  • Ivan

    Wow….just wow.

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    What is with all the junk?

  • jr

    bb are killing us this year..

  • Andy Stankiewicz

    Joba is unbelievable. He comes apart way to easy.
    JobaMania has lost its luster boys and girls.

    • Drew

      Except he did the opposite of “coming apart.”

  • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

    I’d really love to know how many damn times Joba starts 0-2 and then proceeds to put a guy on…

    He is MADDENING to watch.

    • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

      Here comes another run, folks.

      • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

        Oh good, I was wrong for once.

      • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

        Prophetic.

        • Drew

          Yes, wait, what rhymes with prophetic and starts with a P?

          • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

            Prolific. :)

            • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

              Prosthetic?

  • pc69

    I am just stunned right now. it is almost as if in one week, they have lost who they are… Nuts.

  • V

    Joba is afraid of the strike zone when he gets two strikes on a guy. It makes no sense. He has awesome stuff. He has amazing stuff. But he’s afraid of the strike zone.

    I don’t get it.

  • Drew

    Talk about limiting the damage. That could’ve been a very bad inning.

  • BigBlueAL

    Does Joba go back out for the 4th????

    • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

      I don’t see why not.

  • pc69

    But 2-1…Yanks will put a 3 spot up this inning.

  • John

    WHEW! Let’s please put some fuckin runs on the board now.

  • Ivan

    43 pitches in the 3rd, that’s 3 innings worth pitches, and for Halladay that’s 4 or 5 innings of pitches.

  • Jose

    Three walks and two hitter batters in one inning. I think it is safe to say the Joba as a starter experiment has failed. We needed him last night for the eighth inning. Rasner or Ponson never did that in one inning.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      Yeah they just would have got torched in that situation.

      • Dorian

        Hey brilliant, Phil Hughes is throwin 93 and challengin guys. Is Joba too good to do that?

        • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

          Don’t find me on another comment just because I made you look like a fool a few comments down. Make sense.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      …if Joba had three walks and two hit batters in one inning – the 2nd – what would lead you to think he would perform any differently in the 8th? Because three walks and two hit batters was EXACTLY what we needed last night.

      Damn it, how could I have been so stupid!?

      • Jose

        How many times has Joba walked three and hit two in inning as a reliever? Answer: 0

        How many time has Joba walked three and hit two in inning as a starter? Answer: More than 0

        “What would lead you to think he would perform any differently in the 8th?”

        Is that a joke? Don’t you remember how dominate he was in the bullpen?

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          1. When Joba was the “8th inning guy” ™, no one in the majors had seen him. At all. There was no scouting book on him, or anything. Ergo, his success in that role was magnified – above and beyond anything that could ever have been expected.

          If he were placed back in the bullpen, he would not be the untouchable, 0.00 ERA, 100,000:1 K:BB ratio pitcher he was then.

          2. Joba pitched, what, 25 innings as a reliever (if you include last year, I guess it probably gets up somewhere like 40 or s0)? As opposed to the hundreds of innings he has pitched as a starter, both professionally, and in high school and college?

          I’m sure if you pick out any starting pitcher, and you peruse through the hundreds of innings they pitch in a season, you’re bound to find one or two bad ones. Sometimes in the same start. CC Sabathia had a few early in the season, actually.

          3. Ultimately, when a starter has a bad inning, he can still go out and give you three, four, five, six good innings. And that’s still valuable. And the very best starters – like Joba Chamberlain – will have fewer bad innings than good innings. You want your pitchers who can throw the most good innings in the starting rotation. End of story.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      That’s just flat out idiotic. Joba isn’t the first starter to have a bad start. Get over it.

    • Bob Stone

      Great! That kind of performance is better in the eighth with the game on the line????? I hope you’re kidding.

  • Double T

    He just hung unto that curveball too long and it cost him, he will rebound next inning plus Livan isn’t looking like Cy Young out there.

  • the artist formerly known as (sic)

    Threw Sheff 6 straight fastballs.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Ow.

  • JackC

    I hate to say this. I vastly prefer Cohen, Hernandez and Darling. I feel so dirty.

    • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      Really? Over Leiter and Cone?

      • JackC

        Well no, actually, I quite like those two, but they’re rarely on. I think a singleton, Cone and Leiter team would be great, but when are we likely to see that?

  • Dorian

    THAT WUZ FUCKING RIDICULOUS. I want to issue an apology to Posada. Newsflash: JOBA, YOU AIN’T GET HERE CUZ OF YUR DAM SLIDER. YOU GOT HERE CUZ YOU WERE THROWIN 97 AND YOU KNEW WHERE IT WUZ GOIN. THROW THE FASTBALL.

    I can’t believe that Phil Hughes has more confidence in his fastball than Joba. He walks Schneider with a slider on 3-2. Inexcusable.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      Hey brilliant. How about he doesn’t have a 97MPH fastball tonight.

    • Drew

      Are you watching the game? Have you seen the control he’s had? He trusts ALL his pitches. Sometimes, he just has a hard time locating them.

      • Dorian

        Someone please justify him throwing a 3-2 slider to Brian Schneider.

        • the artist formerly known as (sic)

          OK. The slider is his out pitch. He’s been King people with his slider. He wanted to K Brian Schneider.

          • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

            Besides. Why throw a guy who couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat a fastball?

            • Dorian

              The guy doesn’t have any bombs for a reason. If he gets a hit then more power to him. But don’t walk a guy who is looking for nothing but a walk.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      That’s actually not entirely true – Joba’s two plus-plus pitches are his fastball and his slider, so he certainly did “get there” on his slider. A lot of pitchers can throw hard – see Kyle Farnsworth – its Joba’s offspeed stuff that puts him apart from your typical flamethrower.

      Of course, Joba’s command and control are also what put him ahead of other flamethrowers, and that was inexplicably gone for an inning. Don’t think it had much to do with confidence.

      • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

        You actually tried to reason with this person?

      • Dorian

        I don’t particularly care about his command. Throw it down the middle if you have to but don’t walk the 8 and 9 guy by throwing breaking balls. If your location isn’t good then why would you be confident with a pitch that moves.

        • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

          Smart idea. Throw it down the middle when he doesn’t have his best stuff so he can serve up a granny. Nice. You go do that…

          • Dorian

            There are 9 guys on the field whose job it is to catch the ball. Free passes to guys who have been struglling with the bats recently makes no sense to me.

            Another point I would like to make is that all the strikeouts aren’t necessarily a good thing. The K’s are the reason that his pitch count is so.

            If you don’t want my opinion then listen to Darling and Hernandez.

            And look at that…as I’m typing a 93 MPH fastball to Schneider and a pop out.

            • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

              Okay. Hopefully for you the Mets put up a 4 spot. Stop your Joba hating.

              • Dorian

                I’m not a hater. I just want him to be aggressive in the strike zone. There is no reason to walk guys with breaking balls when you are a power pitcher. What is the difference between Joba and Phil? Why does Phil throw his fastball more often then Joba?

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          I would rather walk home a run then serve up a meatball that clears the bases. As a matter of fact, Joba going to his slider in a 3-2 count demonstrates that he has a lot of confidence in his stuff, and that can throw it for a strike in the zone.

          It shows he has confidence in his stuff, and in his command. He has his stuff tonight – how many hits do the Mets have thus far this game? – but the command’s not just there. And in that case, it doesn’t really matter what you throw…

          But might as well go with your best pitch, huh? And Joba’s slider, I’ll repeat, is as good as his 97 MPH fastball.

          • Dorian

            You guys are unbelievable. There is a reason that guys hit .300 and call it a good year. I’ll take the 70% chance that the guy pops up or hits it right at somebody.
            By the way last night to end the game Papelbon served up a fastball right down the pipe and Teixera crushed it…right to Youkilis.

          • Dorian

            The best pitch in baseball, and pitchers and hitters alike will say this, is the fastball.

  • The Couch

    Halladay taken out of the game, looks leg related

  • John

    Doesn’t it seem like EVERY leadoff walk we give up comes around to score and we don’t a lot of the times?

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    That’s it Gardy – keep hitting. Puts pressure on Melky and Swish to keep playing well.

  • John

    That HBP with bases loaded and being ahead 0-2 stings.

    • charlie

      yea, but if we don’t score a few runs against livan hernandez, then our offense has a serious problem

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Jeter is going deep.

    • http://www.workwithpete.com Pete

      deep to second?

      • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

        Meh. I just had a feeling.

  • charlie

    as hard as it may have been to watch, that inning was a learning experience for Joba & he got out of it with only 2 runs allowed. Now we’ve got to rock this guy.

  • John

    No DP jetes…

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Only because Girardi called a hit and run. That was a tailor made DP ball.

      • John

        I said this before the beginning of his AB, meaning I was hoping not saying he didn’t get a DP

  • Drew

    Steal bro.

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Thats right, run hard Jeet.

  • Drew

    Maybe I’m being picky, but can’t Brett steal off Livan Hernandez and Brian Schneider early in the count? Come on.

    • Drew

      Could have been a RBI, he really needs to start trusting his speed. Especially with a not so great catcher and a 83-85 mph fastball.

      • Drew

        Eh, fuck it. Teix is the man.

    • Jose

      Yes. Livan has a 0.446 time to plate on fastballs. And get this 0.639 on Curveballs! Too bad he rarely throws the curve.

  • John

    OK work some RISP magic Swish

  • charlie

    By the way, this is has got to be the best YES network booth possible (with the staff they have). Al Leiter knows a lot of what he’s talking about

    • LiveFromNewYork

      I want to steal the Mets’ announcers.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Leiter’s act gets old in a hurry, and he’s V-E-R-Y sensitive and always has been.

      My perfect booth has Singleton, Coney and the occasional O’Niell appearance.

      Flaherty and Leiter get banished forever. Kay I could take or leave, usually leave.

  • John

    Cmon Bandbox…do your stuff!

    • charlie

      that was no bandbox homer

      • John

        I know..I said that in frustration after seeing Swish’s deep fly, which was like the 5th one to go so deep but not enough

  • http://anewfrontier.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Bye.

  • charlie

    let’s go tex

  • the artist formerly known as (sic)

    BIG TEX

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    Thank Tex!

  • mick

    Why is the entire pitching staff experiencing control problems this year?Our BP would be at least somewhat effective if they could throw the stinking ball over the plate.Is it time to fire Eiland?

    • V

      Give me a fucking break.

  • Ivan

    That ball was crush.

  • charlie

    i’m feeling back to back here

  • pat

    tex is a wonderful lil player that guy is.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Coney citing the blogs again. Love the nerdy Coney.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Though when Cone cites the blogs, he sounds eerily reminiscent of Norm MacDonald.

      “Hey, ya hear bout these new things they got called Blogs? I wuz readin one of them there blogs between surfing for crack whores on Craigs list, and they said sum good stuff bout Tex”

      • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

        At least he isn’t talking about getting jerked off like he often does.

  • Drew

    Al is better than you.

  • bobtaco

    Man, I hope Arod is heating up. Last few ABs have looked great…

  • Nigel Incubator-Jones

    Sorry, but I give the comments today a giant oaktag.. good night.

    • pat

      thats odd because they’re not really that bad. Seeya!

  • Ivan

    Sox maybe 8-0 against us, but, it can’t cover up that they miss on Teix.

    I love mark Teixeira, I really do.

  • charlie

    we gotta score 10 runs this game. Let’s make livan hernandez remember who he is and how hard he throws.

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    …and Cano still sucks with RISP.

    • Drew

      Get over it.

      • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

        Get over what? Cano hitting less than .220 with 2 out and RISP?

        • Drew

          You complain about everything. He also put us on the board today.

          • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

            Put your Cano bobblehead down. I’d be fine if he came through with 2 runners on in the second game in Boston or ARod on second base after last night’s double. Tired of him getting a free pass.

            • the artist formerly known as (sic)

              He hit a fucking home run today. God.

              • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

                Sorry, guys. Cano is the one player that drives me nuts.

    • Ivan

      He hit that very well, can’t ask any more than that.

    • John

      he was good in the beginning of the year and just wait until that RISP correction kicks in, he’s going to be a freak

  • Drew

    Quick inning please!? I was thinking, eh… 8-9 pitches. kthnxbye

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      How about 3 pitches? ;)

  • John

    That’s the 6th or 7th deep fly today, not including the 2 HRs…just a bit more juice on the ball guys

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Think that moronic homer shreaked “It’s outttaa here!” for Tex’s HR? My money is on no.

  • Drew

    Is Philly H. available tonight? Probably not I’d say.

    • John

      nope not until another 3 days because he threw 70 pitches the other day

  • pat

    As much as I hate to admit it, centerstage is actually a pretty good show.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Not that the Yankees have the lead again, I can let everyone know that bad news that happened today…..

    St. Melvin gave up 2 runs today.

    My life is shattered. (DSL Yankees2 still won 9-8, beating the previously undefeated DSL White Sox)

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      I didn’t see it with my own eyes. Ergo, it didn’t happen.

      ~Joe Morgan

  • BigBlueAL

    Felix Heredia for Mike Stanton I believe.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      I swear they use that question every Yankees/Mets series.

      • BigBlueAL

        I was going to say Justice for Robin Ventura first but then I remembered getting Stanton and Im pretty sure it was for Heredia.

        • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

          It was the Heredia trade.

    • Jose

      The ghost of Mike Stanton.

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Ouch. 90 pitches and the 4th isn’t over.

  • pat

    This is SO fucking brutal. There is no way he’s alright. No possible way. Something is wrong with this kid.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      Yeah, Maybe he just doesn’t have it tonight.

      • pat

        I don’t know man, theres really no reason he should be sitting 95-96 throughout one whole game then only be topping out at 93 for another. Whether it’s his shoulder or mechanics or something, this is crazy. He looks like crizzap.

        • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

          I’m sure the lack of chemistry with good old Jorgey has something to do with it .

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      He was like this in the minors. His control was never his best asset, he has always got by on stuff.

      • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

        He is only 23 years old too. That’s encouraging.

    • zs190

      Eh, did you see David Price throw 102 pitches in 3 1/3 a couple weeks ago? This happens to be the best of them sometimes. Didn’t CC have a horrible game against Baltimore earlier on where he couldn’t find the strike zone too?

  • John

    Cmon Joba we need to squeeze another inning out of him for him to qualify for the win.

    Our pen must be shot after AJ and Wang going only 2 2/3 each in the Boston series. Thank god for CC pitching 7.

    • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

      Tomko hasn’t seen much time. I’m sure he’s good for at least 3. Then from there it’s a toss up.

      • John

        lets put some runs on before we have to see Veras

  • BigBlueAL

    This is borderline embarrassing now.

  • Frank

    Joba still has a LONG way to go to before he becomes a top rated starter. This is a terrible performance.

    • Drew

      By long way, you mean able to pitch 200 innings? Or, make more than 100 pitches in a start? Or, have a full season as a starter under him? If that’s what you mean by LONG, then I agree. That will be next year.

  • John

    finish him off Jobber

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Ok now is the time to go bombs away on Livan. They need a cushion if they’re going to the pen.

  • Drew

    110 pitches for him tonight? I’d say yeah, who knows what Joey G and Eiland are thinking though.

  • Andy Stankiewicz

    100 pitches in 4 innings is laughable. It really is. I would love to see what the ERA splits are between all the Yankee catchers.

  • Dela G

    this is incredible. How the hell does joba have 100 pitches through 4 IP

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