Game 65: A long 367 days for Wang
ByChien-Ming Wang last faced the Nationals nearly three years ago to the day. It was June 18, 2006, and the Yankees were in D.C. for the first time since the Senators moved to Texas following the 1971 season.
Wang was great that day. Through 8.1 innings, he had scattered four hits, and the Nationals had hit into 19 ground ball outs. In the blink of an eye, though, that disappeared. Marlon Anderson singled, and Ryan Zimmerman lofted a pitch over the left field wall to give the Nationals a stunning 3-2 win. One day after hanging a loss on Mariano Rivera, Washington downed Wang too.
Today, circumstances are far different for Wang. It’s been 367 days since his last Major League win, and his numbers are historically bad. Since suffering a Lisfranc injury in Houston last year and returning this spring, Wang has looked like a shell of his former self. Gone are the ground balls, and gone also are home runs off him. He’s 0-4 with a 14.34 ERA, and opponents are hitting him to the tune of .446/.504/.733. That’s not a typo.
Similar to Wang’s last outing against the Nationals, I’ll be at this one also, and I wonder what I’ll see. He faces a team with hitters and no pitching. While many reporters are, with more than a bit of hyperbole, calling anything less than a sweep a failure, these Nationals, as Fack Youk explored today, are expected to win once very three days. I hope for the Yankees’ and Wang’s sake, today isn’t that day.
While the Yankee brass are saying that this is Wang’s last shot for now, the team is playing this one as just another game. I don’t know what line keeps Wang in the rotation for another start, but anything less than five innings is going to be a disappointment.
Anyway, the lineups, please. Derek went for an MRI on his ankle, but everything checked out.
18 Damon LF
33 Swisher RF
25 Teixeira 1B
13 Rodriguez 3B
24 Cano 2B
20 Posada C
55 Matsui DH
53 Cabrera CF
19 Pena SS
40 Wang P
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Time for the Yanks to get their Wang back!
Ooooh, jersey numbers in the lineup? Look at Mr. Fancy Pants Ben!
I read this and thought “How are numbers different in jersey than in New York??”
They’re trashier in Jersey. More of a pungent, garbage-like unwashed smell.
And I hear 2, 3, 8 and 9 all have totally sweet blowouts and fake tans.
T-top Iroc Z’s with the sweet Firebird logo on the hood.
And ‘beaters. It’s part of the dress code.
You’ve been kicked out of the positive posse you pansy!
I hope I only see Phil Hughes pitching the 7th-9th innings tonight, and not the 4th-7th.
true dat man
Time for a ride on the Wangwagon.
Didn’t that video supposedly give people seizures?
Most 80′s music videos gave people seizures.
This is Wang’s night. I call six innings and two earned runs.
I predict a CG shutout for Wang. Bam! That just happened
So no pitch limit for Wang?
I assume he probably won’t be able to throw more than 80 effective pitches before starting to leave stuff up…if that many.
After one single bad pitch, we euthanize him on the mound, racehorse style.
Some idiotic comments from Joe Morgan’s chat on ESPN:
lee (cole)
Joe, Lee from NADA 153, whats up with the yankees this year?
Joe Morgan
Well, the ballpark. To be honest the ballpark has helped them. They’ve gotten guys back offensively. The whole team is hitting more home runs in that ballpark. The park has made a difference in their team. When they’ve gone on the road and played Boston, they’ve not been able to beat them. That has to do with starting pitching. Boston has the pitching and the Yankees don’t. I think the Yankees, starting pitching is a problem for them.
SprungOnSports (Long Island)
Is there something wrong psychologically with Chien-Ming Wang, and if so, how would you fix his pitching problems?
Joe Morgan
I think one of the most misunderstood things about baseball is confidence. We talk about pitchers having great stuff, which is well and good, but confidence is important. You can lose your confidence by having three straight bad starts and you start to wonder, “am I as good as I think I am?” Once you start to think that, you can have problems. Confidence is a problem, but he also has problems throwing strikes early. Confidence is an issue for pitchers and hitters.
Ed (Maryland)
How do you evaluate Robbie Cano as a second baseman? Sometimes he makes brilliant plays but other times he seems half-hearted out there. Same thing on offense. For a couple of weeks he hits like an all star and then he looks like he should go back to the minors.
Joe Morgan
Well, I can’t get into a guys mind and say if he’s playing half-hearted or not. I’m surprised that he hasn’t done better defensively. If you have the ability to be a good hitter, good timing and hand-eye, you should be able to become a good fielder. He’s an awesome hitter, but I’m surprised he hasn’t become a better defensive player. But he’s talented. I’m speaking from experience, because when I first came up, I was not a good defensive player.
He’s very repetitive..
Yeah, the sox have all that great pitching like Matsuzaka and Penny, while the Yanks have bums like Sabathia.
Oh, and Fenway really suppresses offense too, so it totally makes sense to intimate that the Yanks can score at home but not on the road.
Idiot.
Not you, John. Joe Morgan is an idiot.
I know
I haven’t read JoeChats in a long time, but those Joe-isms actually seem relatively sane, compared to the shit he used to spew onto the screen.
The irony of that statement is off the freaking charts. Had I been drinking something just there, that would have been a classic spit-take.
Also, has anybody seen this lovely site yet?
http://www.firestevephillips.com/
FJM is gone, and is never coming back. I wish this homage did not exist.
Yeah. Neither of those guys is as good. Not enough ironic humor, biting sarcasm, or superfluous profanity.
wow, those are some idiotic comments, both from the people chatting and Joe Morgan. Joe Morgan is almost as idiotic as Dave Winfield.. the two worst baseball analysts I have ever seen.
So Manny Ramirez is supposed to be a good fielder because he’s a good hitter?
And he is so damn repetive!
Well, both outs were on the ground, at least?
If Wang can put together 7 innings of 3-4 run ball, I’ll take it, with a huge smile on my face. PS, 16-46 is roughly 1 win every FOUR days, so we can fit in a sweep, and let them win a game on Friday, against someone else
(hey a guy can hope can’t he?)
“While many reporters are, with more than a bit of hyperbole, calling anything less than a sweep a failure, these Nationals, as Fack Youk explored today, are expected to win once very three days”
lol at Peter Abraham. I posted in his comments section that it was a joke that he said taking 2/3 from the Nats would be considered a failure and I’m glad that you thought it was stupid as well. Good work.
Yeah, whenever someone says anything other than a three game sweep is a failure, they need a beatin’. I know the Nats suck, but if the Yanks win 2 of 3 the rest of year, they’ll finish with 103 wins. I’ll take it.
My new least favorite saying/concept: If ___________ happens/doesn’t happen, it’s “inexcusable”.
Nothing it baseball is inexcusable. No failure, no matter how big or small, is so heinous that it’s unforgivable. It’s baseball. Great teams lose 40% of the time. Great hitters fail 65% of the time. 96% of the teams in baseball fail to win the World Series every single year.
Over/under 4 innings?
Over, but not much over. 5, I’d say.
Cross fingers, knock on wood, pray to whatever deity you believe in, OVER.
By his noodly appendage, please, let us have 6 innings.
Over.
Do we call four batters/no outs in the fourth an over?
Nope, he’d need to record an out.
My brain says under, my pinstripe heart begs over!
From Pete Abe’s blog: per Cashman “Damaso Marte may need surgery on his shoulder to figure out what his wrong.”
Awesome
Didn’t Andrews just say he didn’t need surgery?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
As in, while Dr. Andrews wasn’t able to determine that whatever is wrong with Marte’s shoulder is going to require surgery, they may have to do exploratory surgery if the injury doesn’t respond to whatever program Marte is following now.
Well he’s be icing on the cake if Bruney stays healthy.
First two pitches, right down the middle. Wonderful.
If Wang can record another out without giving up a run, his ERA will drop below 14!
At least Wang doesn’t look like he’s winging the ball straight down into the dirt yet tonight. I guess that’s a good sign.
i hope to god wang does well during this game
I know what’s wrong with Wang. The bling around his neck is throwing his balance point off.
Ummm… Strike 3? No?
Ominous.
Cmon Wangy
Flaherty seems impressed…
wow he got screwed on that last pitch…
Everything’s up so far. More of the same.
Hopefully he brings everything down a bit before it’s too late.
A couple of those pitches Zimmerman fouled off looked like they had some sink on them. (Looking very hard for positive signs tonight.)
… And a DP ball. Baby-steps.
Everything is up so far.
man cmon wang, keep that damn sinker down please
If David Ortiz can come back from the dead, so can Wang? Plz?
Please John Flaherty just please stop talking about how bad every pitch is.
The worst part is that this team, he isn’t lyin.
*time
Wanger is living really dangerously right now. Hopefully these guys remember that they are the nationals.
This don’t look good.
well he needs to throw the damn slider more
Funny, there was once a day where when CMW took the mound it was almost a guaranteed W. Now we’re all holding our breath.
its almost like knoblauch at the end…
yea, those days were like days now when CC pitches…would be awesome to have them again for the sake of the team and our health.
Similar to how Met fans felt about Doc … before all that white powder he inhaled that is..
phew, wang got away with that fastball there
Cmon Justin Jesse work your magic!
Signing 50 year old pitchers = Major fail. Jamie Moyer is horrible.
It’s okay, it’s not like they gave him a two year deal or anything.
Heh.
IETC
Was that long at-bat just to tease us?
…and exhale.
lets go wang!
DOUBLE PLAY!
WHOOOOOOO!!!!
I say Wang grinds out a win tonight, It won’t be spectacular; but it will be good enough
Man, I miss the sweet CWS GameTracker.
Step your game up, ESPN.
2 ground balls already, nice.
Wang is doing much better tonight if you just listen to John Sterling. I had no clue any of those pitches were up.
Note to self: Anytime a Yankee player is struggling, listen to Sterling’s broadcast to feel better about it, because he’ll totally fuck up the actual historical record of it and make their bad plays look good.
Got it.
Scouting report on Lannan? I was impressed last time I saw him pitch against the Mutts.
Lannan is in desperate need of a neck.
Ah, I love when players make Kay look like… hold on .. Expose him as the douche bag he is.
man i didn’t know we were facing lannan, this guy is really good.
Lannan is really not that great. He has a fip of 5.06 this year and k/bb ratio of 1.23. Last year through a 180 innings he had a fip of 4.79.
He’s a young kid breaking in who’s scuffling a little bit, but he’s a quality lefty. He can be a good #2 or #3 in a few years.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-of/page/2
Alex– start hitting before I start Brandon Inge on my fantasy team over you..
Drop him to 8th in your fantasy lineup, that’ll help.
/Torre’d
come on a-rod…
BULLSHIT CALL THERE! Gameday agrees with me too.
he gave Teix a ball that was a better pitch. I hate umps.
Oh I see why Dukes F’d up that Cano line drive last night, hes got Bobby Abreu’s glove from 2006
What did Wanger name the baby?
Justin Jesse Wang
J.J. Wang. Nice.
Really?
yup
I prefer Bossman Junior Wang
B.J. Wang
Had they actually given him the initials B.J., I might have injured myself from laughing too hard.
haha
Definitely surprised it was an Americanized name, but what can you do?
I could be wrong, but I believe they named the baby Johnson Schlong Wang.
It was a matter of time before YOU jumped all over that one.
It was just sitting on a tee. I had to hit it out of the park. I had to.
glad you did, it was pretty funny
Jesse
a bit inside, but get a hit already Arod.
was that strike 3 really a strike 3?
looked a little high, but not that high. Too close to take. I guess he was guessing something offspeed and got frozen by the sweet 90MPH heat.
not accordin to gameday…too inside and it wasnt a borderline call either
Oh, yeah, my bad…that was the 3rd pitch of the AB I was looking at on gameday. The hanging changeup. That last pitch looked inside, but pretty close to take with two strikes.
4) CC!
Why would we be excited to ever see Wang at the dish after his last AB
Swisher.
I think there is some animosity between Kay and Flash.
ben zobrist is a free agent in my fantasy league. Do i pick him up and drop Alexei ramirez?
Pick him up.
pick him up like a brotha on free kfc
That was very racist and a horrible stereotype.
We prefer Popeye’s.
haha as a brother i love kfc
WHAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?
Popeyes is spicy, and they got macaroni and cheese and shit! All us negroes of discriminating taste prefer the Louisiana goodness of Popeyes.
hahaha i think you are nuts mane, i love kfc, then church’s, then popeyes.
That’s a literal no brainer.
i know it seems like it, but the guy is 28 and a career 250 hitter. I’m wondering if he’ll keep up the pace and be better than alexei going forward.
But Zobrist is tearing it up. Is Alexei slumping or am I think of someone else?
he started off bad but has been decent since late may
What are we going to do with Wanger?
huh?
um. watch him?
What I mean is. Is this fool’s gold? What if he pitches great tonight and awful next time.
Blastings Thrilledge is my favorite baseball player nickname.
Nails Krzyzewski.
Adam Dunn couldn’t look more ridiculous with his head Jammed into that helmet
wang is really keeping the sinker down now
he’s still up in the zone, but it’s working right now
Looks like Wanger got a freshy cut.
Was that “lines out to right fielder Nick Swisher” from Adam Dunn a rocket, or a soft fliner?
Rocket.
in between.
Looked pretty well-hit to me, but the next ground ball was a good out.
Rocket
Alright…3 ground ball outs and that one line out. Not bad so far.
and a strikeout.
Listening to Sterling at school – should Jorge have caught that ball?
It bounced the dirt. Might have been able to block it.
It actually hit the plate which is why i think posada had a hard time with it, it kicked up more than if it hit the dirt.
Maybe blocked it. No way to catch it.
definitely should have blocked it.
Wow, Pena put some stank on that throw. Nice.
Eh, hard to stay. It was a tough bounce, but a ML catcher needs to get in front of that thing.
Holy shit, Corey Patterson is playing CF? At least they didn’t do that yesterday, or the Yankees may lose that game.
Is the stuff looking any better this inning?
yeah he is doing much better this inning in my opinion. His slider looked nasty on the swinging K
Posada doing his best to build a case against all the RAB posts supporting him.
That is ALL on Posada. Patterson is super easy to K, and only a threat if he gets on base…So Wang K’s him and he still gets on base and they pitch out and still don’t get him. Whoops.
But Wang gets Josh Bard to ground out, so it’s ok.
Now I’m not saying that Posada makes pitchers pitch worse….but I don’t really like him defensively. Mainly because every team takes advantage of him of his inability to throw out base stealers. Then there’s the not blocking thing which I hear he doesn’t do but ehh…
Is this a joke? Did you read the last post about how Jorge has been excellent at throwing out base stealers this season?
If you go look at the piece on Jorge by Joe Pa, you’ll see he’s not as bad as it seems at times. I was surprised that his CS% is actually on par.
No hit’s through 2 lol
GREATTT sinker there.
Four ground ball outs so far. Does Wang look as good as his results? Better? Worse?
If you listen to Flaherty, he is more or less trashing Wang’s stuff tonight but cant argue with the results.
He looks pretty good to me. There we some pitches up early, and his velocity looks 90-91, but…I mean, I feel pretty good about him so far.
much better than last time
however the third inning is the key
4 ground balls, the liner, and the K. This is somewhat encouraging.
corey patterson is a nightmare version of ajax’ future
i don’t think ajax will flop like that.. he’ll be BETTER than the hype.
Pena’s footwork fascinates me.
cano’s good against lefties.. i’m lookin for another big game from him
We’ve made it through two innings, and nobody’s dead yet. This is good, we can build on this.
So far, Tex and ARod are the only ones who haven’t appeared to be going through the motions at the plate.
Did they show the losers that are the NY Giants in the stands yet? They’re supposed to be in the legends seats.
GO SKINS!
Redskins? Shouldn’t you be on an Orioles blog or something?
lol skins fan from jersey. i blame my father.
Meh, Popavero is a Cowboys fan.
There’s no requirement that you have a soul to post on here, just mastery of the English language.
“just mastery of the English language.”
That’s a little generous.
Heh.
We’re lucky if most have a tenuous grasp.
Looks like Plax is talking to the Bucs. Makes sense to me. They’ve got nothing to lose there, it’s only one season, and he’d make Leftwich/Freeman much better.
Didnt that new coach clean house though? cut a lot of veterans, making it his team. does he really want to bring Plax in and have him show him up?
Meh, they were cut mainly because they were old.
Plax would be a big help, and again, it’s basically a one year deal, because he’s going to trial in the winter and he’s gonna get suspended.
Low risk.
That’s true.
Low Risk but Low Reward too, they’re not going to the playoffs, might as well just let some young guys develop. A team like Carolina can use him, team him with Steve Smith
I pity the fool who trash talks big blue.
I’m kind of nervous Cano’s four hit night may give him reason to continue just wailing away at the first pitch every time up. Yea, it worked against whoever that was last night, but good pitching would eat him up with an approach like that right?
lol at “driven out to left field.”
How does Lannan have a 3.45 ERA? 77 IP, 38 SO, 31 BB, 9 HR. His FIP is over 5.
But then it doesn’t matter how good your stuff is, just that you get outs. At least that’s what John Sterling said on the radio a few minutes ago.
Well, he has had a groundball rate of >50% every season of his young career, so he’s got that going for him.
man lannan looks as good as advertised
no hits in the game at all so far
3rd inning. Let the game begin.
Should we pick up Milledge off what might be a scrap heap? Natinals hate him and he’s hitting 250 in AAA, we could probably get him on the cheap.
Depends on how cheap. Can I have him for Eric Wordekemper?
How bout Veras, Shell, and one more low ceiling young guy? Is that too little?
Meh, Veras and Shelley Duncan alone frankly should be more than enough for Lastings.
Would you pull the trigger on that? I sure would.
Yeah it’s a no-brainer, no? They DFA’d Veras anyway.
I’d say so, I thought we’d need to throw in someone else for guy with with Lasting’s potential.
Of course it’s a no brainer, but are the Nats just going to give Milledge away? I realize that much of the bloom has come off his rose, but he’s still young and toolsy.
Cano’s flashing some serious leather.
Robinson Cano = Chris Berman’s date
Tuck your dang pocket in Harris.
Just think I found Kay’s replacement….
“No runs, no hits, and nobody left on base. At the end of 2 1/2, Wang has no hit the Nationals”
– Michael Kay in about 3 minutes
nice job
Lookin good Chein Ming. How ridiculous would it be if he tossed a No-No.
really ridiculous
way to go jinx
At the plate, Yankee kille, Anderson Hernandez.
ERA is officially out of the teens. 12.93
I love Eli but damn, he rambles like a motherfucker.
18-1 baby!
damn peyton manning’s wife is hot
Eli’s is better IMO.
Well, the hit was on the ground.
Chien-Ming Wang strikes out Anderson Hernandez.
CMW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CC
Heh
Nick Johnson has a silly mustache
He looks like a vaudeville melodrama villain.
kim jones: i can’t pay the rent!
nick johnson: you must pay the rent!
derek jeter: i’ll pay the rent!
kim jones: my hero
haha
Hnnnya nya nya nya!!
Is there any stache that isn’t silly?
Burt Reynolds.
Also, these:
http://www.worldbeardchampionships.com/
I’m liking the results so far.
How could you not like 3 innings, 1 hit, no runs. 50 pitches is kinda high but 66% of them were strikes.
Very high for Wanger, but, he’s capable of a 9 pitch inning at any time, maybe less.
anderson hernandez >>>>>>> luis castillo
Wang’s performance is sexy so far tonite
Flaherty is intimidated by Eli. Lol.
What kind of leash is Wang on? When should he be pulled?
Do you let him go 100+ pitches if he looks good, or do you go to the ‘pen as soon as he shows signs of fatigue, even if that’s at ~70 pitches?
Id say 90-95 is his max
Gotta get the count up of we’re serious about him. He needs at least 85-90. Depending on the situation, I’d say you have to let him work through the first signs of fatigue. That said, you don’t want him to get smashed because he’s at 80 and can’t keep the ball down. Gotta play it by a year.
Play it conservative, yank him around 70-80 pitches if he gets that far successfully. He’s not totally stretched out yet, and I’d rather take the decent 80-pitch outing and call it a step forward for Wang than risk pushing him too far or getting hit and messing up his line for the night.
Damn just realized we don’t have a damn hit.
Second time through should be better…
Offense…are you alive?
What do we do with Phranchise?
Don’t write in Wang as the starter for the rest of the year. I mean it is the Nationals…
Who are actually a good hitting team, with disastrous pitching and defense.
I mean…Wang just K’d one of the better young hitters in the game, who has really come into his own this season.
They are not a good hitting team. They are a middle of the road hitting team in the National League.
Nope.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....ls-offense
You’re not too good at reading, are you?
the nationals have pretty good offense…
Anybody else watching this on MASN in the DC area? I find these announcers to be delightfully moronic. Much better than the Orioles announcers.
That’s a good trivia question. A-Rod seems too obvious, so I’m going to go with Barry.
Holy damn, mel hall got 45 years in prison.
should have received more
Don’t fuck with Bernie Williams. Man’s got long tentacles.
ietc
Holy shit.
Did that leave the stadium?
Adam Dunn hit that homer with zero passion.
/Ricardi’d
Wasn’t that the most lethargic dinger of all times?
Yes. Adam Dunn is currently napping between second and third base.
You know…I woulda just walked him.
Just imagine if Dunn got signed by us this year…
Yeah…then we could have another lefty DH for > 2/20.
40+ hr’s.
Yes, I know what Adam Dunn can do. I know that he’s the king of three true outcomes.
However, I just don’t look at the Yankees and think “hey, you know what this roster is really missing? A DH.”
ha word. I hear ya, he is somewhat underrated though IMO.
In this stadium? 80+!
I really wouldn’t mind having him in the 3 hole. Jeter/Damon/Dunn/Teixeira/ARod
Bad pitch? Good hitting?
3-0 he laid one right down the pipe. Nothing wrong with that.
Well…yeah there is. Why would you do that to Adam Dunn? You KNOW what he can do with that.
shocker.
I would have been more surprised if that didn’t happen.
me too
FUCK…its ok
Good recovery there. Didn’t lose his composure.
Who wins in a fight, CC or Dunn?
CC by endurance.
If you are scouting the Yankees for a playoff game, unless you have a Beckett or Halladay type or you are the Angels, call up any AAA pitcher and your odds of winning increase significantly.
It really seems that way, doesn’t it?
However, unlike, say, Matt Palmer or Nieve, Jon Lannan is actually good.
He is decent. But this team should be hitting him, not swinging like they are hitting balls to little leaguers.
Name the date Jorge will throw his next runner out.
What’s today?
Well, he had it if Pena could have caught it.
August 23rd. Will be a missed hit and run sign.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....der-13328/
Seriously, it’s the last post on the site. Jorge’s rate is over twice that of Varitek, as an example of someone who I’m sure you’d never make that comment about.
You’re really not good at reading.
Dude…who cares about Patterson? Just get Bard!
C’mon offense, pick up your Wang.
Well, except for the HR, pretty much everything has been hit on the ground. This is good to see.
Adam Dunn > CMW
Tex is palpably better than giambi.
Please stop Flaherty. We get it Wang is making bad pitches and is getting too distracted by the runner. I don’t want to hear this for the whole game.
did we really just pitch out against the natinals?
Why shouldn’t they? Corey Patterson is THERE to run. That’s what he does. Should the Yankees be spotting them free bases and baserunners?
Patterson can do one thing well these days, and that’s run.
Damn you and your glove skills, Zimmerman.
Seriously. Swish got robbed.
It’d be nice if the team wasn’t playing like they had early dinner reservations.
I’m ready for a Kay jinx.
Alex homers here…
or not
Oh Jeez. I pray we get to see the Nationals pen for an inning.
At this rate, they may not.
Yeah…too bad in order to see a teams bullpen, you kinda hafta get baserunners on the starter.
There he jinxed it. I’m expecting a big inning. Let’s get Wang a win because he’s actually pitching well this time, Or at least “keeping us in the game” which apparently he never does.
50 pitches for Lannan through four.
Which would have been tougher to take, Wang getting bombed, or us getting no-hitted?
Option 3: Pull the trigger.
Either could still happen.
True. That would be the worst case scenorio I guess.
Cringe…what if it’s both?
If Wang makes it through this next inning, I kind of think it’s Hughes in the 6th.
Guys, it could be worse. The game I was umpiring before ended on a walk-off balk.
You dick, let the players decide it!
Dude it was SO bad. The coach was telling the kid to step off but he started towards the plate, landed, and stopped. Game over.
Details of said balk, please.
Include any and all tears.
One of the coaches threw a glove, I believe. Totally the coaches’ fault, too.
9 ER to Santana… none to whoever the hell this guy is…
Let’s go!
John Lannan’s actually a good pitcher, though.
IETC
WTF pena.
Wang has already done enough to warrant another start. Getting us to the 5th giving up only 1 run is by far the best outing of the season.
The next question becomes what do we do with Phil Hughes?
Cash has tied Hughes to Bruney, so if Bruney stays healthy for the next week or so, they’ll need to make a decsion.
I keep him in the bullpen, myself.
If Bruney’s really ok, I don’t think they need to keep Hughes around as either a mop-up or setup man, so he goes to Scranton.
Probably to the minors to increase his workload.
Ah, NL baseball — where teams play for one run against a starter who has an ERA over 12!
I’m tired of the defense letting Wangman down. He’s trying to come back, he needs you guys. In Boston Swish forgot to catch, today, lead off man steals on what could be viewed as an error by Ram-pen.
Great play by Pena there though.
ehhh thats debatable
It is not like the offense is doing anything. 0 runs through 4 against the Nationals. Tanner would be throwing a fit.
yeah regardless of who’s pitching this team should score 8 runs every game
Wang’s kinda getting away with a couple here, hm?
Pena copying right out of the captain’s book!
That’s a friggin out. Umpires fucking suck.
AWFUL call.
Out. Not that close either.
More bad calls by more bad umpires.
Blown call. Lots of boo.
Wow, that was a terrible call.
DOUBLE PLAY PLEASE!
Great, the dreaded boiling point…
HUGGEEEE spot for Wang here.
“On Field delay”, what happened?
arguing the blown call at first.
Keep it down Wanger.
holy shit what a terrible call by that ump
Fuckkkk. Thats sad.
poor guy can’t even catch any breaks…i feel bad for him today…so called great offense can’t buy a hit in 4 innings..so called great defensive ss can’t catch a simple throw…damn umps can’t make a right call…wtf…
agree. Things are going wrong for Wang and a lot of it isn’t his fault.
poor guy can’t even catch any breaks…i feel bad for him today…so called great offense can’t buy a hit in 4 innings..so called great defensive ss can’t catch a simple throw…damn umps can’t make a right call…wtf…
Ugh, don’t dive for that.
MELKY DON”T DIVE YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Man, it’s like the defense decides to suck when Wang’s pitching.
that ball was going to the wall regardless, he wasnt going to cut it off
True.
It was take a shot at cutting it off and let Johnny get it at the wall if you miss…or let Johnny get it at the wall because you didn’t try.
Faaaaaantastic.
Aaaaaaaand left him in too long.
Well that’ll happen if you miss on the dive.
Bombed.
Sucks that the boxscore doesnt show Pena’s dropped ball and crap call at first
3-0 and not hits. ridiculous.
Now Wang will get blamed for shitty defense and zero offense.
Not by the people who matter, hopefully. I’d hope that Girardi and Cashman would go by more than the box score and rabid media idiocy when making decisions.
confidence in those two is not real high when it comes to assessing player talent.
and he’s not a pitcher like Andy who will start barking at the defense. He’s going to own it all. unfortunate.
He deserves another start IMO, hopefully against an opponent the offense takes seriously enough to show up.
come on melk
Should have been 1 out no one on. Way to pick up your pitcher guys.
Actually, if Pena catches that throw and the ump doesn’t suck, the inning would be over and it’d be 1-0.
Eh, pre determined outcome, Jorge had him out, from there, anything could happen.
unfuckingbelievable
Man, Kay and Flaherty are so fucking godawful boring. I’d take the White Sox guys over this boring shit.
Look at the bright side, Tampa struggled with this team at home.
Yankees just trying to show the Giants why football is the superior game.
Ok Melky. This is getting ridiculous. You don’t have to dive at every freaking ball. Probably could have saved a run if he didn’t dive. Fuck.
I don’t think so…I mean, I don’t see him getting in front of that at all. Even if he didn’t dive, Johnny was going to get it at the wall.
It would be a bonus if he could save at least one run.
Don’t get me wrong, we will win this game, I just wish we’d a put Wanger in the W column.
It would be perfect but seriously against the Nationals you’d think giving up 3 runs would be more than enough to win you the game.
Four runs in the bottom half, baby. Don’t worry ’bout a thing.
Good, smart move to walk Dunn.
Semi agree. Do we want to put another runner on base when Wang’s still not reliable?
Fuck more bad luck…I HATE it when umps blow a call