Jun
17
Game 65 Spillover Thread II
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i’m addicted to coke
clever
oh my fucking god matsui hit the damn ball
not a reply
I say that we skip Petitte’s next start and let phil start in his place. He’s just too good to be in the bullpen and petitte has looked like he could use a start off.
You’d have to square that with Petite, but I’d support it
For Petitte:
Skipping 1 start = Losing a lot of $$$
yea i know, but he’s got plenty of fucking money. he should care more about the team
A competitor’s mentality would think that they can help the team themselves, not let someone else do it. It’s not about the money.
You must be new to this. It’s ALWAYS about the money.
I’m not new to this. And it is NOT always about the money.
You’re right, it’s not. That’s why Pettitte held out all winter, because it was for the good of the team.
I never said it’s not about the money, I said it’s not ALL about the money. Obviously contract negotiations are about the money, it would take a true idiot not to get that.
I was stating, that in this hypothetical situation where the yanks ask Pettitte to miss his next start for Hughes, his decision of no would be more of a competitive decision than a monetary situation. Sure one missed start would mean he loses around 500g, but I’m sure what would be on Pettitte’s mind would be that he is capable of pitching well and getting the win.
Its always about the money. And nothing else.
Wait, why didn’t Hughes pitch the 8th there? I thought we wanted to keep him stretched out a little?
Dunno. I hope someone would ask Joe after the game.
Why are you swinging at the first pitch there, Hideki?
Is there all sorts of late movement on that or what? That was an 88 MPH fastball right down the middle.
I’m getting sick of this “The Yankees can’t hit anybody they haven’t seen before so teams should just bring up AAA pitchers instead of throwing Beckett and Halladay blah blah blah.”
It’s just typical selective memory by ignorant fans who have quickly forgotten the Rick Porcellos and Derek Hollands that the Yankees roughed up. Instead, they just look at Nieve, Martis, and Lannan and make stupid claims. And just because you haven’t heard of somebody or they’re on a bad team doesn’t mean they’re a bad pitcher. Such a joke.
+100
okay but a 2 hitter? are you kidding?
That’s not entirely fair. No one has rigorously shown it to be either. It’s certainly been a sense that has built up over the last several years. It’s also not just fans…the announcers say it all the time as well. And yes, I know that not everything they say is gospel.
Also, Lannan is different than some of these other guys in that he’s actually a decent pitcher. But…it certainly feels like good control guys with middling stuff that haven’t been seen by the Yanks dominate them more than they should. I’d like to figure out how to prove or disprove this, but I got nothin’
They gave the stat last night that the Yanks are 18-3 against “rookie” pitchers since ’07, which certainly doesn’t help with the middling stuff argument, but tells you that not many newbies (i.e. those who the Yanks “haven’t seen”) mow them down. A lot of this frustration is selective memory.
JD!
Not totally disagreeing, but didn’t you just use selective memory (Porcello and Holland) and not actual stats to back up your claim?
Nieve and now Lannan are “OK” pitchers who are looking like aces against the Yankees. It’s annoying how often those types of pitchers shut us down…
The yankees will bring a batter to the plate this inning, lock it up.
this guy is just layin em in there now… hit the baseball somebody
disgusting
what?
he’s working lieber fast. try stepping out
Benefit? That ball came right back over the plate.
I thought the nationals sucks?
Wow, don’t even make him work or anything. And don’t even think about scoring a run.
Hopefully the top of the order can manage something in the bottom of the 9th. Sheesh.
this game has been terrible, its not lookin good but i sure hope we can get another fucking hit.
this is making my head hurt…Soft Tossing Lefty strikes again!
yanks cant hit goshhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
must win this game with the sox winning 5-1
Please take Lannan out for the 9th.
why is coke still out there after 20+ pitches?
Why was Coke in there longer than Hughes?
Only the Yankees convert a starting pitcher to the bullpen to be a long man and then only let said pitcher go 2 innings. R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D.
Cuz Adam dunn the lefty was up in the top of the 8th,
With a man on 1st, 1 out, and A-ROD coming up, I wonder what everyone is thinking…
There is absolutely NO point to this move.
Disagree. I think it makes complete sense. It’s 3-1, the yanks can score 2 runs in an inning, its clearly happened before. Secondly, one of Girardi’s best skills as a manager is limiting relievers’ innings while still keeping guys (like Aceves) fresh. No sense in stretching out coke against 2 more right-handed batters while you have a fresh Aceves who could use work (hasn’t pitched since saturday i believe)
Fair enough. And I didn’t know Coke’s pitch count.
I have supported Joe and his propensity to play the numbers but sometimes he overthinks things. If guys are doing a good job then let them pitch.
It’s so Dorian.
At least the yanks have the top of the order coming up in the bot of the 9th.
That’s the good news (top of the order coming up). The bad news is that the Yankees can’t hit tonight. And, re. Lannan, you can’t be patient when the guy is throwing strikes. But you could hit them.
Glove save and a beauty by Tex
Two runs ain’t shit. Let’s go, Yanks!
Woo!!
Damon!!!
I’m calling it right now, Matsui with a game winner.
1 more!!!!!!!!!!
The only good thing about this stadium is we ALWAYS get last licks.
Damn, A-Rod’s gonna get his chance again!
Well I can already hear the thousands of boos if he fails.
Well, Damon hit a strike. Thanks.
THATS MY SHIT SON!!!!!
That was a New Stadium job if I ever saw one.
+A lot.
ATTA FUCKIN BOY JOHNNY
Just missed it; damn.
Glad to see Damon didn’t let this guy lull him to sleep. Wonder if Acta will risk pulling him?
FUCK YES!!! I love Johnny D. We need another, let’s go
tex double, arod homerun. I’m calling it.
come on tex
god I hate kay
Is it just me, or did Swisher use up all of his clutch hits early in the year?
he’s definitely got some left
i LOVE THIS FUCKING TEAM.
A-Rod, Man of the Match?
Mell Hall got 45 years.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....ref=si_mlb
Should have fried the bastard.
come on alex
A-Rod better not hit into a DP…
Dude, shut up.
Let’s go ARod!!!!!
Mark Texiera’s batting stance resembles one of the guys from Mike Tyson’s punch out. I can’t figure out which one though.
Lets go A-Rod.
shut up shut up shut up Kay
Way to get on, tex. By the way, anyone notice tex never goes the opposite field.
A-Rod’ll hit a walk-off right here.
I would love to see that. Then we watch the booers see their foolishness…hopefully.
walk to alex
Bring em out Bring em out!
YES YES YES. MACDOUGAL IS GONNA WALK EM.
Come on A-rod, this is a perfect time to shut up the boo-birds
Ok, Be A-Rod here. McDougal can’t throw strikes, but he may want to get ahead of A-Rod. Do you or do you not swing at the first pitch? Assume A-Rod is a guess hitter, not that he sees if its close and swings. Just a hypothetical.
I really don’t get why this is a tough decision. MacDougal throws real hard and gives the Nats a platoon advantage, no? The tying run is on base and the go ahead run is at the plate and the pitcher just gave up a homer and a hard hit single. Why would you risk keeping him in?
Anyone think Gardner should be in the game here to make sure the game is at least tied on a double?
girardi does
And take Teix out of the game? Nah.
This might be a tough match up for A-Rod.
McDougal has a tremendous FB, with great movement and velocity.
Hey, it’s Mac the Ninth!
A-Rod, please don’t get booed.
(That would require doing something positive)
shit, wish they left lannan in. this guy has a real good arm
ATTA BOY GIRARDI. LETS GO GARDY
time to get dirty.
Let’s go, Alex. Shut the moronic boo birds up.
Arod has good numbers against mcdougal 2-5 wit a hr.
Patience, Al.
I think he beans arod
Gardy, gotta get a steal here.
Sterling keeps calling Gardner ‘Teixeira’.
John confused no way
safeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
nice
So fast.
Good job Gardner.
Safe!
SHIT! He’s fast!
*whew*
on a pitchout, no less.
YES GARDNER!!!
See why you run Brett? You’re faster than a motherfucker.
great call
so that guy is pretty fast
YEA GARNER!! Come on Arod, please
WOW. Way to go, Brett.
Uge. Just uge.
GRIT!!!!!!!!
small ball
Wow. Just Wow
another steallllllllllllll i love gardner.
That is EXCITING!
Steal home Gardner while you’re at it.
Gardner’s the Man!!!
Awesome!
Wow
That Gardner kid got some skilz on the base path.
Gardner is one fast motherfucker!!!
This is just plain fun to watch. Wow.
thats a quick man
ATTA BOY GARDY
holy fucking shit gardner!!! Now we gotta at least tie it
Odd ARod strikes out here.
This would be a nice time to break that mini slump he’s in.
Just make contact, dude.
Please A-Rod, Please
ugh that was right there
C’mon Al, let the game come to you.
The Cheers are gonne be either very loud, or very loud with boo’s
Arod’s like Gardy’s the hero, I’m the zero…WTF?
Gardy: let’s switch paychecks!
BUT WHY DIDN’T GIRARDI BUNT GARDNER TO 2ND WITH A-ROD? Maybe he’s finally learning.
walk
PLEASE DON’T WALK HIM NOW.
payoff…..
Man, Flaherty’s so obvious, lol. “No, he shouldn’t go”. “Oh, if Bard handles it, he’s out.”
Nah, Flaherty, looks like he would have been safe even with a good throw.
walkk
FUUUUUCCCCKKKK
no he did not bitches
That’s how he do that shit son!!!!
Shit, now the DP is in order.
Well, the winning run is on base so I’ll take it.
Come on, Robbie!
if he was called out, Arod would have been put to tears by the crowd
dammit, you pussy. Robbie, please make him pay.
Man that looked close, but thank god he didn’t swing. I couldn’t imagine the boos if he was called out.
fly ball just a fly ball
I wouldn’t mind a homer though.
No DP’s Cano.
Come on Cano, the KO punch!
First pitch Robbie… DP?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pessimist
Now the DP is back in order. Ugh.
Come on, Robbie.
i’m worried here
Fly to deep right is all we need.
You’re gonna have to send ARod with Cano up. He hits lots of groundballs.
come on cano base hit.
Why not PR for A-Rod?
Pena and Gardner already in game, Berroa’s not terribly fast.
D’oh. Didn’t see Pena in there.
whos faster than arod on the bench right now
With who, Cervelli?
I don’t think Berroa’s any faster than A-Rod.
With who? Berroa?
Please Robinson, Please.
dID YA HEAR THAT PEOPLE .423 IN THE NINTH
god cano, what the fuck is he swinging at
keep ur negativity to urself brah
Everything
if arod steals, and the throw goes to second, gardy could score without question
hit on next pitch
come on cano…. please..
MacDougal is the Nationals Farnsworth.
Both have great stuff, both have no idea where its going.
If I’m Girardi, I start ARod. Cano doesn’t K much.
Would they boo A-Rod if Robby doubles and he got thrown out at the plate?
good at bat, win the fuckin battle
boy this has strike out in the dirt written all over it please prove me wrong
I wish it was a k FUCK
Cano is really missing on some good FB’s
here comes off speed
Wow, Cano hanging in there.
waiting for the curve…
Nice AB for Cano. Regardless of outcome.
I SUCK!!!!!!!!!
holy shit hit it in play already
Ugh.
Wow. That was shitty.
Fuck you Cano.
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Drat.
what could have been done to prevent that?
Send ARod. Because Cano hits a lot of groundballs.
sounds easy enough to me
wish our manager knew that…but I guess it’s not part of his job to know that
Deflating…..really deflating.
FUCK.
HEY, GUESS WHAT GIRARDI, YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.
Man, it doesn’t take a fucking genius to see that Cano hits a LOT of groundballs.
God damn it, what I wouldn’t give for a manager who’s not a fucking imbecile.
fucking sucks choke
Goddammit MOTHER FUCKER GET A CLUTCH HIT CANO!! JUST A FUCKING FLYOUT WOULD BE FINE!!!!!!!!11
CHOKE!!!!!!!!
Couldn’t even get the tying run in. RISP = Yankee Krytonite.
Ugh, fuckin fuck.
Can’t believe we lost to the effin’ Nats.
The Robbie Cano Show just got canceled.
guy should not be batting 5th period.
Ugh.
I bet someone blames A-Rod for not going into second hard enough.
or for walking to set up the dp
A-Rod should have ran. Twice this shit happened.
I really don’t understand why They didn’t just send A-Rod early. Wouldn’t he have just reached- they aren’t going to throw to 2nd and let Gardner score are they? Maybe I’m missing something.
Agreed. Don’t know why they didn’t send A-Rod.
Yankees are the Nationals 17th win. Congrats boys. Rush back in and dig into that bag of lame excuses cuz you got OWNED tonight.
d00d, you really need help.
This should be good- Ignorant fans will now blast Cano the day after he went 4/4 and carried the team. He also hit a home run tonight, but that don’t mean anything to these guys.
Not at all. A-Rod should have ran so I don’t know why Girardi didn’t send him or if A-Rod just didn’t go.
People are blaming Girardi, and rightfully so, for not sending A-Rod… Cano had a great AB, sometimes it doesnt work out.
robbie had no choice. he promised a classroom of second graders he’d break their hearts
IETC
Poor Gardner, ran his butt out.
thats what happens when the team sleepwalks for 8 innings
any reasonably smart hitter might actually be ready for the fastball away and drive it to left center. HE THREW NINE OF THEM IN A ROW!!! YOU KNOW WHATS COMING!! SO HIT THE FUCKING BALL HARD!
That’s what he was trying to do, he just didn’t get under.
lol… you did see the AB, right? You do know that his out was recorded on the left center part of the infield, right? You did watch this game, right? You did know he hit it hard, right?
i was on gameday, so honestly no, i didn’t know some of that.
heh true, my bad.
Yeah, he hit it hard which is why it was so easily turned. Also, he had the right approach, going out to left/left center, IMO.
Should have been a tie game on Damon’s homer. Bad call at first by the ump on the Guzman play cost the Yanks the game.
Fallacy of the predetermined outcome. I know it sounds obnoxious, but it’s true. You can’t assume that the game unfolds the same way if that call is made differently.
+1
Reason #1,000 and 1,001 why Cano shouldn’t bat 5th
Can we be emotional and reactionary now? Is it allowed?
Go to Lohud if you want to act like an idiot because the Yankees owe you a win every night.
Am I acting like an idiot?
You asked if you could be one. I asked you not to. Lol.
The Yanks owe me nothing. I just don’t appreciate when some folks critique emotional reactions. Part of being a fan is investing emotionally in a game, and sometimes that investment results in reactionary remarks. Why that’s received as being an “idiot” or, even worse, “unacceptable” to people is beyond me. It’s pretty pompous actually.
And I’ll never go to LoHud. Those people frighten me.
i completely agree
GOD DAMMIT KRUK. PHIL HUGHES IS A FUCKING STARTER YOU FAT FUCKING SLOB. AND NO THIS CHEIN MING WANG DOES NOT HELP THE YANKEES MORE THAN HUGHES. DAMMIT ALREADY B-HUGHSERS
THAT’S what I’m talking about!
Why didn’t ARod get the steal sign?
They really like making fools of themselves at least once a week.
I’m thinking A-Rod gets 2nd without a throw, as crazy as it sounds. It is not out of the realm of possibility that Gardner goes home on a throw to 2nd.
Tough one… Situational hitting is not our strong suit.
Second guess time, PH Jetes for Swish, or no way?
For swish, probably not imo
this loss is on girardi. go back to the marlins, loser.
Not funny.
Once again, your beloved Yankees playing to the level of their competition. You don’t see that from Boston, which is why we are now 3 games back and 0-7 against them.
That would be 0 and 8.
And how can you get that pissed with a game like this? Yankees pitching only gave up 3 runs and still lost. If I’m not mistaken, weren’t we previously undefeated when the pitchers gave up 3 runs or less?
Thank You.
0-8 (salt in wound)
0-8 dude oh and eight….
Then go back to SoSH and root for the Sox you fucking twit.
“salt in wound” comment (if it’s me you’re calling a fucking twit) was actually all-inclusive. 0-8 is worse than 0-7, which makes it worse for all of us who root for the Yankees.
Nice use of “twit,” though.
d00d, you didn’t see who I replied to? Really?
pc69 is the largest sourpuss on the whole blog.
That’s V. The guy with the foul nasty mouth. Anyone with an opinion gets yelled and cussed at. A class act all the way.
So I’m noticing.
:snort:
Says the guy who only shows up for a loss.
hahaha everybody hates cano now, what a fucking joke
I know right? Unbelievable.
Blaming Cano for that AB is pretty stupid. The pitch he hit into a DP was a very good pitch, running away from him and sinking. Most hitters can’t even make contact on that pitch.
The blame should definately go to Girardi for not sending Alex, that was a stupid decision.
+1 Watching the replay of that pitch, I honestly did not see much more that Cano could do with it.
Finally, some sanity…Macdougal sucks, but he was throwing moving heat…. tough AB for Robbie… a well pitched game by the Nats…
WOW just got completely shut down by the Nats pitching….and lost honorable mention to Johnny Damon and to the pitching staff as a whole. Wanger…looking better…..rest of the offense, horrible….Swish do something….Arod come on…..Jorge awwww come on man….sone in by another soft throwing left maybe we should get Al Leiter to throw BP
Damn. Runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and couldn’t bring a run in (even worse cause we had the fastest guy on our team on 3rd). That’s a tough way to lose. Now 3 back from the Red Sox. Fcuk.
That’s the second time I can readily remember where a blown call at first base cost the Yankees a W (the other one was that game in Cleveland where Jeter was incorrectly called out at first two batters before Tex homered. The Yankees ultimately lost the game by 1)
I know it’s a risky choice because of the hip surgery etc. But I really thought A-Rod should have stolen second there. That would have possibly resulted in tying the game with that ground out.
Less than 2 outs, runner on 3rd, still our killer…
Walk and double play. 0-1 wow they suck
They do suck because they didn’t get the run in.
Weird, I guess you can’t come back to win every game you allow to get to the 9th down by a few runs.
By far the most irritating loss of the year…at least for me
The 8 to the Red Sux were more irritating. But I’m completely irrational when it comes to Yanks and Sux.
Well, I’m just talking about one game in particular, not a series of them. And I’m basing this off of how mad I get. When the channel changer gets thrown, I’m mad. I haven’t thrown anything all season, but tonight was the first time I launched it. You should see my walls…holes, dings, and dents everywhere. But I’m learning to tone it down a notch, but damn if it doesn’t help make me feel better.
thurs in boston out ways this one
weighs wow that was dumb
consistent effort please, not just in the 8th and 9th.
yeah, dont give credit to the pitcher who pitched a hell of a game for 8 innings, this offense needs to score 6 runs everygame or they arent doing their job
i’m not seeing any improvement in wang’s performance. sinkers still flying all over the place. i’m not sure what’s wrong with him but i dont think we’ll ever see the same wang again.
RIP chien ming wang’s career
Yea because every pitcher who gives up 3 runs in a game should retire. I mean just look at CC’s performance yesterday.
Kruk said leave Wang in rotation because the Yankees KNOW they’re a better team with Hughes in the bullpen. Yeah Hughes in the 4th-7th backing up Wang is really the glue to this bullpen
Essentially the same outing from Wang as the Texas outing.
he was better than that–if Pena can hold on to the ball and the first base umpire can do his job, then he only would have given up the Dunn bomb
Also Melky shouldn’t have left his feet. If he doesn’t then only 1 run scores.
Stop blaming Melky- did you watch the flight of the ball? That ball was cutting left the whole way, it would have gone past him either way
Disagree… he plays that conservatively and he saves a run… tough play and I agree he may have thought he had a better read than he did because of the spin, but against the Nats, play it safe because they are not going to string together a long rally. Futhermore, Guzman doesn’t score on Zimmerman’s ground out to AROD… bad “D” and it ended up costing the Yanks the game.
If Ramiro Pena catches the ball, with your logic, there’s 2 outs with no one on.
5 innings pitched, 6 hits, 4 k’s, and 3 runs, i’ll take it for the time being
that’s 3 innings 10 hits 6 ER against a superior hitting team.
Thank Mo it’s a quick turn around. I’m ready for some Jobanation tomorrow afternoon.
Lets hope Joba is not afraid of throwing strikes tomorrow.
I’m putting it out there 7 innings 1 run ball.
Fuck Cano. He’s such a goddamn idiot.
Give him a DL stint. 60 days might not even be enough. He needs to learn how to take a ball like the greenest of low A ballers know. He’s cost the team too many leads and wins with his Soriano-esque hacking.
And for that matter, it’s humiliating that we’re not cruising. I didn’t expect a win tonight with Wang pitching, but tonight was 100x more humiliating than I expected it to be, on top of Tuesday’s embarrassment. I fully expect the Red Sox to maul the Nationals, maybe with a perfect game or a no hitter in there.
Xanax, it’s a hell of a drug.
ICWUDT.
I sure hope you didn’t cheer Cano when he went 4 for 4 and won the game for them yesterday.
It’s the first time they lost all season when they allowed 3 runs or less. Take a fucking chill pill, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Pure, unadulterated sarcasm, I love it!!
….that IS sarcasm ISN’T it??
If not, please leave the earth in any way of your choosing.
What’s he going on the DL with?
damaged brain
this comment sucks.
Your joking with me right? He definitely should have looked at that strike 3. If your expect that much out of the Red Sox go over to one of their blogs.
Writing out my Graduation thank you letters. They went from not great, to fucking happy in the 9th, then back to not so great.
Wow, how the mighty have fallen. Wang just went 5 innings, gave up 3, and this is a step in the right direction. If Phil did this, we would be disappointed.
This loss is an embarrassment. I’m sure the homers here will “tip their caps” to Lannan but that’s a joke. Every Wang start is now a spring training game.
Let’s name a bridge after him for 3 runs in 5 innings tonight. I guess he did “good” because it was more than 2 innings.
Sure, Wang wasn’t a superstar tonight but he wasn’t awful either. Plus, his defense wasn’t exactly too helpful either.
he needs to go back to taiwan and reminisce about the career he had because it’s over.
-500000000000.453
+500000000000.453
Oh look, the imbecile is back.
I’m just going to say wow.
It’s one loss people, chill outttttttttt, have a beer or something.
Send A-Rod there? Really? On a 2-2 count and A-Rod on first, that is an awful risk. If its a ball, there is a good chance Alex is dead at second. You dont take such a high risk to avoid a double play, because the odds of a douyble play are lower than Alex’s likely chance of being caught stealing. Anyhow, they likely would have turned two anyhow. That ball was hit hard and directly at the SS.
Alex is dead at 2nd as gardy is crossing home plate.
Exactly what I was thinking, if A-Rod goes in with a good slide especially.
I love that assumption. A double steal is not an easy play to execute. With a guy like Gardner at third, genreally the pitcher is ready to intercept the ball to get the guy coming home.
You also love the assumption that the throw is good and Al is “dead at second.”
I said giood chance. You disagree that there is, say, a 35 % chance that he thropwn out?
Tough to say for sure. First off though, No way they tag Al and throw home to get Grit. It’s one or the other. 35% is fair, but there is so many other variables, throw, catch, tag, grittner, Al’s jump, Al’s slide.
Not to mention Alex probably ain’t runnin’ at full speed right now.
Right, so all these people wanted him to go on 2-2, not 0-0, 0-1, 0-2,1-2,2-2. I’m indifferent, it was a frustrating loss and there’s no saying that sending Al would’ve won the game. That doesn’t mean you can act like these people’s opinions are incorrect, TBH, who says they even throw to second with Grit on third.
Huh? Any couint but 3-2 makes it a bad risk. I never said peop-le were wrong. I just said that if you weigh the cost and benefit, it is not the best move. And I addressed the other point about throwing through above.
Eh, bad risk in your opinion, with grit on third and Bard catching, I’m willing to say it could go either way. Like I said, I’m indifferent, but neither one way or the other was the right/wrong move.
That’s fair. So why can’t I find it crazy that people are asking that Joe be sent to an island over the move?
well they’re def. not getting the game in tomorrow. So much for a quick turnaround
Positives to take away:
Wang shows improvement against a pretty good offense
I now have confidence in the bullpen (minus Tomko)
Cano worked an 8 pitch at-bat (is that a career high?)
if the nationals somehow take 2/3 from yankees then this team officially becomes a joke. cross your fingers and say your prayers tonight.
I mean I get down on the team, but seriously, this is too much.
Lannan was dealing today
Yeah, I would love a rotation with those three: Lannan, Nieve, and Martes.
Psh, excuses.
/mock outrage.
Let’s actually give some credit to the damn pitcher. Believe it or not, guys can pitch well against the Yankees. It’s not an “excuse.”
I disagree. The Yankee hitters allowed Lannan to work at his own pace. Anyone watching the game live saw that this guy was on the mound ready to throw etc etc when the hitter stepped in the box. Not often, maybe not at all, did I see a batter step out and try to break his rhythm. Too many early swings and GBs etc etc…they beat themselves (Girardi didn’t help either, they should come up with a hip flexor injury for him too, so he can go hang out with Valentine in the east somewhere and learn to manage)
Whenever I see irrational comments like this, I sit back and thank the good lord that I’ve got my sanity. Also, what’s the difference between an official and an unofficial joke? Just for the record keeping.
Why are you here? You obviously don’t like the Yankees.
We will win, the game starts in about 15 hours. Another series won, another good showing.
yeah okay miss cleo. you have other predictions you want to tell us about?
It’s called being a Yankee (fan), you expect to win, you hope to win. You don’t look at it as a lost series at 1-1.
how about if Yankees take 2/3 we never have to see you post here again?
stop attacking my character.
Considering that we have never seen you before until the end of this loss, your character is pretty dubious.
stop alienating me because i’m not a regular. do you know how many fans you’re alienating by doing this? i suggest you cut it out.
Alienating you? Please, dont copme here after a rough loss to be troll and stir things up, and then complain when you are called for it. Regulars have built up some goodwill in other threads.
Psssst
McDougal >>>>> Cano
Just letting you know that I practice voodoo and later tonight I will plant a curse upon you. Good luck living a normal life.
^^^^This was so awesome.^^^^
What character, your comments so far have been flat out jokes.
thanks for your input. i think you’re a joke also.
I didn’t call you a joke, I called you comments jokes. I don’t think anyone on this blog would disagree. Saying that Wang’s career is over because he gave up 3 whole runs, or that Cano has “a damaged brain” because he swung at a pretty good pitch.
Boys, tonight’s thread is reading like a Red Sox Blog…. every one needs a glass of wine. Don’t punch your girlfriend/wives over this one… it sucks but it’s baseball.
If this was a Red Sox blog, we’d be celebrating another victory. Yeah I said it!!!!
guys who’d you rather have:
CC
AJ
Joba
or
Nieve
Martes
Lannan
Nieve, Martes and Lannan. Obviously CC and AJ are just happy getting paid and Joba really wants to be the 8th inning guy
Aj can’t even pitch, he belongs in Canada. Jobber is useless in the rotation. He’s a bull in a china shop.
David Price is through 6IP!!
oh shit 9 hits, 5 runs
we’ll get em tomorrow
not if it’s raining all day
Perfectly said. It is such a luxury to have a team where you can say that and actually mean it. That game the Nationals just won is like their world series. This team is not a joke, they are actually a hell of a team and they don’t deserve ‘fans’ who get upset and all crazy over losing 1 game.
I def agree man, its not like we lost to a pushover team, and i think the yankees will respond in their next game
For anyone who wants to look, Steve Lombardi is a B-HUGHESER. He has a different look about him coming out of the bullpen I guess. FACE-PALM
LOL
That is all. Carry on.
what are you LOLing at?
sox fan/ awesome cool person.
You know, I’m on these game threads about every night. I expect the wild trolls, negative nancies and positive posse’s. The one thing I find truly annoying is that while watching a ninth inning rally, people find a need to inject their negative views into a truly great baseball moment. Cano’s AB, he’s battling a guy that is spitting hot fire like Dylan, with movement, around the plate. Cano’s trying his best to tie the game, yet people have an urge to say something that is completely nonconstructive.
Afterward, if you want to go buck wild, that’s fine, do what you do, but during the moment, drink it in, enjoy what your watching and hope for the best. It makes being a fan much more enjoyable both for you, and I.
Well said.
IAWTP. That’s spot on.
cano is suffering from a damaged brain. simple as that. it’s a birth defect that isn’t easy to recover from. he needs our collective prayers and maybe just maybe God will intervene.
This is a bannable offense, right? Right? Please.
If this is how BIG BOY, or whatever he’s calling himself tonight, wants to deal with a loss, that’s his call. Why anyone would say this, I’m not sure. But given the tone of his comments all night, something tells me that he has more pressing matters to deal with than baseball.
so what if I sleep with my mother?
That makes two of us who sleep with ur mother.
Uhm, yeah, that’s great to know…
Ugh, moronic. GL with all that.
Wait you practice voodoo and beleive in God?
does not compute.
Don’t feed the troll…
But you ARE the troll. Admins see everything…and I HATE it when people change their commenting handles.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA so pathetic.
You play not to lose, rather than play to win, and you usually lose.
Not sending A-Rod was a failure on Girardi’s part. If this was his thinking, “If I send him, and he gets nailed, and Gardner gets stuck at third, and Cano grounds out…. then it was a mistake to send A-Rod…” then I don’t want this guy managing this team anymore.
You lose with your strength, and the strong move here was forcing the Nats to make a play, either nailing A-Rod at second or nailing Gardner on a double steal attempt, or…. getting Cano to pop out or strike out with runners on second and third, take your pick. If the Nats execute, then tip your caps and say ‘Well done, boys.” But leaving your strength in place and never using it to force the issue is bad, bad, bad managing.
Losses sting less when they are lost by aggressively trying to dictate a situation. But this Yankees team has not been a great situational hitting club, so it was lame of Girardi to expect Cano to come through there without offering up any scenario that utlizied the speed on the bases.
Losing scared is pathetic. Call it cautious or prudent if you like, but I call it ‘scared.’ We died tonight with a few bullets still in the chamber. Inexcusable.
I really do not get your logic. If the odds go against a move, you want to force the issue anyhow? If Pena was at first, I might get your point.
What makes you think the odds were against A-Rod getting to second safely?
And sometimes you have to go against the odds…. playing the ‘odds’ is playing it safe, and I’d rather have an aggressive approach that occasionally throws the odds book out the window.
Your ‘logic’ sounds like the old Taoist mantra ‘do nothing and nothing bad can happen to you.’ Seems like a wuss’s philosophy.
You call me a wuss?
seinfeld’d
I’d say Alex, at his current state, is probably a 65-75% basestealer. That means 25%-35 % of the time, he would get caught. That is certainly higher than Cano’s GIDP rate. Also, you said the team should go with its strength. With Alex on first, and Cano and Posada coming up, the strength there is letting those guys hit, rather than taking relatively poor chances with outs.
Since even the best hitters fail 65% of the time, how is it ever a better choice to allow a batter to save the day than to allow a base stealer, when even the best catchers throw out only 30-40% of runners?
Because the runner isn’t 100%.
Because the tying run is on third with less than two outs. If Rodriguez runs into a tag and Gardner can’t go, it takes a hit to tie the game rather than hit into a sac fly.
Exactly. Also, unless you double steal, all sending Alex does is keep you out of a DP. You still need the exact same thing you needed to tie the game anyhow- a Cano sac or Posada hit.
Why does everyone assume it’s a good thing to send Rodriguez? It definitely wouldn’t have been a bad thing but at the same time, the dude is clearly not at full speed and he could’ve been running into an out, which is just as bad as the double play. Plus, as Moshe said, that ball was tailor made and they may be able to turn two on that as it is.
I trust Cano’s bat control in that situation. All I know is that Cano hits a LOT OF GROUNDBALLS. I definitely send ARod there. Absolutely, 100%.
You’re assuming all these bad outcomes…. again, scared thinking. If you don’t roll the dice out of fear of losing, then you lose anyway, what was gained?
Why not push a bad team like the Nats? Why not make them execute on defense? Why allow a bad team to sit back and wait for a double play?
No course of action was guaranteed to get a win here, but Girardi did not utilize all the assets he had at his disposal.
Aggressive baseball is not always good/smart baseball. Rodriguez isn’t 100%, the Nats could cut the ball off and get Gardner at the plate…the tying run was at third with less than two outs. There isn’t much of a need to run there, especially if the runner at first isn’t going to be at top speed.
Sending ARod before a 3-2 count is a tough call to make. Although for everyone saying he cant steal yet and stuff, he is 2 for 2 in SB’s and both have come this month. Actually in the past 10 games.
So im not sure if it was that big a risk, especially considering ARod has always been a very efficient base stealer throughout his career. But again it wasnt an automatic send by any means. Although I personally once Cano got to 2 strikes wouldve sent him because by that point he is just trying to make contact and not just trying to lift a ball to the outfield.
But the game was not lost in that at-bat, it was lost all the innings before of hitting like shit and sleep-walking through the game.
agree with you. it was lost because the hitters sleepwalked for 8 innings. yeah, some will give credit to the pitcher but c’mon 2 HITS!? that’s terrible!!!
Differences of philosophy is what we’re really talking about….. some are aggressive, some are not. I would take my chances with A-Rod more likely to steal than Cano more likely to get a hit.
And you could even tell A-Rod to bust up the receiver at second to make sure Gardner had a decent shot at going home.
Again, just differences of philosophy.
No, I think it’s just risk management. With the tying run on third and less than two outs, I don’t think it’s worth the risk of a CS to “make the defense work” or whatever.
Yes, but a CS = tie game. SB = a lot less of a chance that GB is a DP.
It is far from CS= tie game. Gardner cant go until the ball passes the pitchers mound to second base. I’m not so sure he goes in that situation. Quite frankly, I have never seen a double steal with a steal of home in that situation in all my years watching baseball. Has anyone else?
CS does = Tie game. No way you tag Al and throw home to beat grit at the plate. Maybe throw to second throw home and beat him, but no way they apply a tag and throw home to get an out there.
Right, I misspoke. However, sending Gardner likely means no play at second and a play at the plate, so you just shift the risk. If the ball gets cut off, Gardner is likely in trouble.
Word, like I said earlier, it could go either way. If Robbie is able to lift one to left we might be still playing. We couldn’t get it, it’s all good, we play in about 13 hours.
It never happens, maybe once a season total, counting all 30 teams.
If people are going to say they lost the game because they didn’t try a fancy double steal of home, then I don’t know what to say. I don’t know how in the world anyone could assume that works.
Because it’s aggressive and gutsy and ballsy and that’s always good. Always.
Is it still technically a double steal if you’re perfectly willing to let the 2nd guy get thrown out? Eh whatever.
You know where that play works? The Cal Ripken League I do games for.
That’s assuming Gardner goes on the throw down to second, which he may not be able to do.
Whatever, shit didn’t happen and they lost. Goddammit!
Eh i guess it can go wither way. Nothing is absolute.
Mo and Melvin’s dominance is absolute.
Amen.
Girardi is bad at his job.
Wolf Williams summed it up.
Word, same with Torre. Oh wait, he has the best record in baseball. I’m so sick of armchair managers and GM’s. Let’s just fire everyone until our manager goes 80-0 in the first half.
Anybody know what the deal is with the Audi club? Theres always passes for cheap, and i read its an all you can eat buffet but is that with every pass or just the full season?
i figured buy cheap day of game tickets and $20 for the audi pass may be worth it, but does anyone know what the deal is?