Game 67: No A-Rod and no DH

The economy, the new Stadium and the 161st St. businesses
Staten Island starts season with a loss

Because the Yankees play at Dolphin Stadium tonight, they will have no designated hitter, which takes Hideki Matsui out of the lineup. Ok, that’s manageable. However, when word came down that Alex Rodriguez would get the next two days off (presumably to play Sunday and then get another day off on Monday), the lineup didn’t seem as manageable. Seem is the key word here, though.

Despite A-Rod‘s absence, the lineup is still an imposing one. Sure, a number of the guys are slumping, but that happens in baseball. These guys could break out of it any time, and if they do tonight they’ll be just fine. A few characteristic hits tonight could bring the Yanks to a W.

They’ll try to do it against lefty Sean West. I always check out Baseball-Reference to get a gauge of the starters the Yanks face each night. In this case I was met with a surprise before I even got to West’s stats. He’s listed as 6’8″, 200 pounds. Duuude. That’s one lanky kid. Checking some images of him he neither looks that tall nor that thin. I guess we’ll get a better look tonight.

West has made five starts in his rookie season, registering 30 innings, so a round six innings per outing. He was a strikeout guy in the minors, though that was in the lower levels. Surprisingly, West has made only eight starts above A-ball, and those came this year in AA. He struck out 50 in 42.2 innings there, though has notched just 15 in his 30 MLB innings. His problem, both in the minors and at the major league level this year, is that he walks way too many guys. This problem became more pronounced after he missed the 2007 season with a torn labrum.

Of his five starts, two have been brilliant. These include a seven-inning, one-run performance against the Mets on May 29, and an eight-inning, no-run outing (with six strikeouts) against the Giants on June 8. In his last outing the Blue Jays pasted him for four runs in 5.2 innings. He threw just 51 of his 98 pitches for strikes. The Yanks could sure use some of that tonight. We’ve seen enough of their faltering in the past few games against pitchers they’ve yet to see.

Andy Pettitte has another go at it after a few suspect outings. Thankfully for him he’ll be facing a Marlins lineup which features only two guys with an OPS over .800 — Hanley Ramirez and Ronny Paulino, the latter of which is on quite the tear to open the season. His .480 SLG is roughly .100 better than any of his full seasons.

For those who don’t like Joe Girardi, thank the baseball gods that you’re not a Marlins fan. Fredi Gonzalez is batting Wes Helms second. Wes Helms has a .603 OPS. Meanwhile, Cody Ross, who is tearing the cover off the ball with 10 homers and 18 doubles, both second on the team to Hanley Ramirez, is hitting eighth. Jeremy Hermida, who is second on the team in OBP (again, to Hanley), is hitting seventh. Paulino, the guy on a tear, is hitting sixth.

Lineup:

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Jorge Posada, C
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Nick Swisher, RF
7. Melky Cabrera, CF
8. Angel Berroa, 3B
9. Andy Pettitte, P

The economy, the new Stadium and the 161st St. businesses
Staten Island starts season with a loss
  • Chris

    Why Berroa over Pena? WHY!?!?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Probably has to do with Berroa’s bat.

      • Nady Nation

        Haha, good one.

      • John

        That and his stellar -52.1 UZR/150 defense

    • SouthernYankeeFan

      ARod is available to pinch hit tonight. So my guess would be if he pinch hits and gets on then you have Pena come in to pinch run and play defense. Just a thought.

  • Ivan

    After Nick Swisher, the lineup gets sorta ugly after that.

    • e mills

      Leche’s a beast

  • crap

    what a sh*tty lineup. count this as another loss. no run support + pettitte pitching = loss.

    • Zach

      thats sarcasm i hope

      • crap

        cashman please trade swisher. he’s a clown and a dork. he doesn’t fit the yankees mold.

        • Zach

          7:04 and you’re starting already?

      • Jeremy

        It has to be. This is the regular lineup minus ARod and the DH spot.

    • Nady Nation

      I admire your outlook, crap.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      WHAT I THOUGHT WE DON’T SCORE RUNS!

  • John

    RAB: Can you guys please bash 2-3 or 9 players tonight even if you don’t mean it so they play well tonight?

    Please! I’m serious…we need a win to stop (delay?)the Lohud evolution around here.

    • John

      the comment from “crap” above mine is what I mean with the LoHud evolution.

      • crap

        what is this some kind of cult?

        • John

          I apologize if your comment was sarcasm but some people have gone crazy here with comments like yours…except they’re serious.

  • donttradecano
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I’m watching Hellboy on FX till the game starts. I forgot how much I like this movie.

  • pc69

    Is it a bad sign when the #8hitter is more of a liability than the #9 hitter who is apitcher

  • Dela G

    and the dumbest manager of the year award goes to…

  • pc69

    Anyone know if joe plans to play matsui at all aside from ph

    • zs190

      Pretty well documented that he will be not start in the field at all if possible, Joe is open to using him on a limited basis with double switch and pinch hitting, but that’s about it, they’re afraid his knee would give out if he plays the field.

      • pc69

        Thank you. Figured as much but found nothing specific to interleague

  • e mills

    anybody’s mlb.tv not working?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      mlb.tv usually doesn’t work till the game itself starts.

    • Dela G

      mine works just fine.

      try logging out and logging back in

  • Jeremy

    What is going on with the comments? I feel like my IQ is dropping from reading them.

    • zs190

      A lot more trolls lately, it’s kind of unavoidable once the blog got more popular.

      • crap

        hitler thought jews were trolls. the holocaust was then he tried to weed them out.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          Fuck off

        • http://www.failblog.org FAILBOT

          ERROR! FAIL!

        • Colombo

          that’s not even close to being almost ok

  • crap

    i think arod’s hip procedure was a failure.

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    damn jeter that was CRUSHED. Thats the way to start the game.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      It sucks, that should be a HR but let’s hope the rest of the offense can bring him in.

    • Zach

      should have taken the first pitch, make the young kid work :)

  • John

    Yay Jeter

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    I hate ground-rule doubles.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    If we strand jeter, I’ll be pissed.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Hey what do you know.

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        Hell hath no fury…

  • pc69

    6-3 Yankees. Can’t guarantee they won’t be playing from behind

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Wow, jeter’s really limping out there

  • e mills

    that’s what I like to see when my mlb.tv starts working

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    A lot of hard-hit balls; that’s a really good sign.

  • Zach

    hey we scored

  • zs190

    Nice to get a run across early.

  • John

    JoPo!!!!! Cmon Swisherrr!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Oy swisher.

  • nathan

    A hit with RISP… wake me up

  • John

    Swisher grounding into several rally-killing DPs. Thank God this one didn’t come late with the game on the line.

  • Dela G

    good to see the yankees finally scoring first in a game for once

  • yankw

    nick swisher yay

  • John

    BTW, I convinced 2 people that Joba belongs in the rotation in the past week!!! I also convinced one of them that it’s good we didn’t trade for Johan.

    • RunnerS122

      Always nice to see intelligence win out

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Too bad it can’t prevail against Francesa because when you say the truth you’re cut off.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          Notice how the only stat he ever cares about is runs scored?

          • John

            He hasn’t figured out UZR, FIP, and OPS much yet…thank god because Joba’s FIP is like 4.97 or something.

        • John

          The funny thing is that he didn’t even know who Hughes was (though he recently went back to school and works two jobs so has not followed the Yanks much for 2 years now).

  • Dela G

    pettite looked good

  • John

    Berroa and Pettitte both have 1 HR in the past 3 years.

    • Bob

      well that almost changed

  • Bob

    Good to see a lead off hit. I can’t believe cano didn’t hit a ground ball on the first pitch.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Think Andy will take three straight?

  • John

    Whoa how did Robbie go to 2nd on an infield popup?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    This isn’t possible, the Yankees haven’t seen this pitcher before!!!

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      That’s because West isn’t a staahting pitchaah! Porcello, a guy you’ve never heard of, has bettuh stats than him!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    So who was complaining about Berroa in the line up again?

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Angel Berrora…seriously?

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    hahahahahahhaha Berroa

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    Looks like Berroa doesn’t want to be DFA when Ransom comes back.

  • Dave

    HOORAY

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Pettitte says ENOUGH! And made his own run support.

  • Ivan

    Yanks must win this game if Angel Berroa is hitting doubles off the wall.

    • Bob

      and if pettitte can, any one can

  • Bob

    HOLY SHIT!!! GO ANDY!

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    hahaha I live for this shit.

  • Dela G

    HOLY SHT, ANGEL BERROA DID SOMETHING!

  • Kyle

    So I’m at the game tonight and the “Yankee fan” sitting behind me just said he “hates Robinson Cano because of his attitute that he thinks the world owes him something” and that he “loves Melky Cabrera and is a GREAT role player”….WOW, fans in Florida know lots about baseball

  • The Couch

    Bonjour Berroa!
    Great stuff & Andy too.. fantastic, lets make this a more positive place ;)

  • V

    Why is Angel Berroa starting?

    ;-)

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    ARod Who?

  • Bob

    Wow andy can’t catch his breath from jogging on a double

  • John

    Hehe Gamecast and Gameday both froze on Berroa’s AB

    • zs190

      They can’t believe he got a hit either.

    • yankw

      isn’t that a sign of the apocolypse

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Gamecast and Gameday both know that Berroa doesn’t hit doubles (or anything at all), and doesn’t know what to do with the data.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    And all the pessimists leave for now. Gotta love it.

    • Bob

      Well it is the river ave blues blog

  • John

    Yay Berroa and Andy!

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    I blame A-Rod. Take him out of the lineup, and the Yankees have three runs through two innings.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Seven hits in the second inning? I can work with this.

  • Bob

    Well how can we hit this guy but not JOHN LANNAN!

  • nathan

    WWhy cudnt they do it against the Nationals… aah i hate inconsistency

  • John

    Andy’s line 1.000/1.000/2.000

  • Dela G

    the yankees are coming out guns blazing!

  • YankeeScribe

    Loving the offense lol

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    Anyone notice YES had the Yanks batting in the bottom of the 2nd for a little while there? All the Yankee fans must be confusing them.

  • Dela G

    4-0 yankees!

    the yankees are tearing the cover off of the ball

  • JobaWockeeZ

    And YES can’t even maintain a current count and keep recor dof who’s on abse!

  • John

    Man, A-rod wishing he could get in the fun to break out of his slump.

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    That call was BS he wasn’t giving that pitch to Andy.

    • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

      Absolute BS call – Andy threw that pitch twice to Ramirez and it wasn’t called.

  • Dela G

    man cmon posada!

  • zs190

    Somehow West has only thrown 32 pitches even though we have 8 hits already and made 5 outs. Definitely being very aggressive, even though the scouting report says he doesn’t throw strikes very well.

    • Dela G

      well they are hitting everything that goes anywhere near the middle

      • zs190

        Oh I’m not complaining about the result, but interesting nonetheless.

  • Bob

    Anybody remeber the last time a pitcher tried to score? It was wang in houston and he was out for the year and ruined his career. But glad to see Pettitte didn’t do that.

    • Dela G

      yeah i was at that game in houston. One of the saddest things i had ever seen. Too bad he doesn’t play basketball, that lisfranc injury wouldn’t be so bad :(

  • nathan

    How long before Hanley is a FA

    • Zach

      2014 last year on contract, he’s not staying at SS so dont even start dreaming

  • John

    Ok now pitching takes over and wins the game hopefully…and hopefully the offense tacks on more runs.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Whoa. They actually just hit a HR at Citifield (I flip during commercials, sometimes). And hey, beating the Rays is good.

  • Bob

    Back to reality. Cantu double

  • Bob

    O god I hope that didn’t mean anything

  • Steven

    I think everyone on this message board is right with O’neil in throwing Kay over the side

    • Zach

      hes tired of kay making fun of his eating habits

  • Corey Nord-Podberesky

    i actually dont mind this announcing combo on yes right now

    • Bob

      I don’t like when Singleton does the play-by-play

  • Bob

    Classic Pettitte leadoff double but gets out of it using 20 pitches

  • John

    Nice Andy

  • Bob

    Wow Kay can’t say presently

  • Bob

    The milk man delivers! Thats the melky way!

  • Drew

    That’s my boy!!

  • John

    Leche delivers!

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    The Melk-man!

  • Bob

    Wow nice ab coming off of an rbi double berroa

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Melky says “OPS this, nerds!”

  • Drew

    yikes he got all of that one

  • Bob

    Well hes even he drove in a run and gave one up. Starting fresh

  • Dela G

    thank god cody ross is so low in the order. This guy is a monster

  • John

    and they’re batitng him 8th

  • dkidd

    got home late and just caught up on tivo. jeter gets jammed and hits the ball 440 feet? amazing strength

  • John

    Not many people here today

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Usually happens when we’re winning.

      • John

        makes sense

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Trivia = Girardi, no?

    • John

      whats the question?

    • dkidd

      yes. they were 79-83 i think

    • Bob

      Hey whatd’ya know!

    • Steven

      Yeah, the only reason he got fired after that year is because Loria and him had a feud

  • dkidd

    land shark stadium has a sad trombone!

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      I just heard that. Awesome! Better than that stupid whistle.

  • dkidd

    jeter’s hurting. if we pile on some runs, get him out of there early

  • dkidd

    kawakami >>>>>>> matsuzaka

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Jeter has been great this year defensively.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    Michael Kay doesn’t even know how to quote defensive statistics…

    • Zach

      it was like he reading the ingredients label on the back of a box pretending he knew what it meant

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    A plus/minus mention? *gasp*

  • Teix is the man

    yay yankees!

  • V

    It’s nice to see a game like this!

  • Zach

    i love watching dicek walk off the mound demoralized… and boston fans booed!

    • Teix is the man

      boston fans don’t boo, they merely cheer in a negative tone!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Why can’t we have more games like this?

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Because we only get to see the Marlins for one series this year.

    • Zach

      because a lineup cant have a pace of 12.5 runs a game

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Is Renyel Pinto coming in? Dude’s nasty.

    • Teix is the man

      how so?

    • dkidd

      another good trade for the marlins

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      I see.

  • Drew

    We suck against teh rooks!

  • Accent Shallow

    So . . . guess the Yankees can hit pitchers they haven’t seen before?

    (Ref: Derek Holland, Scott Richmond)

    • Zach

      10-6 v rookie pitchers this year

  • Drew

    Matsuzaka just got pulled after 4. :)

    • Zach

      4 IP, 6ER, 8H, 4BB, 2K, 1HR
      somehow only 67 pitches

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He walked Jeff Francoeur. Think about that.

        • Zach

          almost as bad as wil nieves walking twice in one game :)

      • Ivan

        Talk about a watse of money.

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    Cano failing with RISP – shocking.

  • Teix is the man

    chicago gives up very good players

    • dkidd

      but they got juan pierre!!!!

      • Teix is the man

        ahh, nevermind =)u take back what i said

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    ouch robbie.

  • John

    So far Pujols winning the battle against Greinke

    • Zach

      my gameday has kyle davies as the SP tonight?

    • Sean C

      ESPN has Davies pitching. Cardinals gave him a beating.

  • Zach

    So will Angel Berroa win over Yankee fans with this AB?

  • John

    Oh they dissed Berroa…cmon Angel inflate your RBIs here but do not GIDP

  • Teix is the man

    wait a minute wait a minute ANDY PETTITTE IS A STA’TNG PITCHA!!!!

  • Michael

    Fernando Nieve shutting out the Rays through 5. Maybe everyone overreacted a little about these rookie pitchers? Except me of course. We seem to be doing fine tonight.

    • Zach

      1. Nieve isnt a rookie
      2. Yankee fans flip out if Halladay shuts them out
      3. Nieve isnt that great but whatever cant dwell on it

      • dkidd

        nieve’s not cy young, but he’s only 26 and he’s making the astros look stupid

        • Zach

          for a team that signed mike freakin hampton you think they would have given him a chance

        • dkidd

          maybe he punched out the gm

      • John

        Most have accepted elite pitchers like Halladay beating us. In fact, we usually expect a loss when the series begins.

      • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

        To be honest, Halladay starts are the only ones these days where I’m surprised if the Yankees win.

        • Zach

          Yeah but this site still blows up because he dominates us and not Boston

          • John

            I dont remember that many people complaining about Halladay beating us. And it’s as of late it seems like there are LoHudians here because we’re in a slump. Look at today…we’re winning and the trolls are all hiding.

            • Zach

              Ok maybe not Halladay, but Beckett and Verlander yes

            • Zach

              Ok maybe not Halladay, but Beckett and Verlander yes

              • John

                Them I can understand because they struggled to start the year but recently have been utterly dominant, especially Verlander

  • John

    2nd and 3rd no out = no runs again but it doesn’t hurt as bad today

    • Zach

      5-12 RISP

  • Dave

    AND Kenshin Kawakami is one hitting the Sox, and hes a no name scrub with a high 4 era!

    • John

      Impossible!!!!!!!!!

      The Sox show up to win everyday, have grit, know how to win, and have great leadership!!!!!! And they the best advanced scouting in the whole Universe!

      I don’t trust the score, my eyes tell me they’re winning and haven’t lost a single game since 2004.

    • donttradecano

      DFA everyone not named dice-k

      • Zach

        and Bay, because they’ll be able to sign him to a 3yr/27m extension because he loves playing in Boston

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      There is no possible way that Matsuzaka does not go back on the DL. I think he caught the Anxiety Flu.

      • Zach

        Dream scenario?
        DiceK to DL for ‘fatigue’, Smoltz gets rocked, Penny gets rocked and loses all trade value

  • VO

    I missed the Pettitte double, anyone care to explain how it happened? Misplayed? Real hard shot?

    • dkidd

      legit double. went with an outside pitch and lined it over third

  • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

    Nice job, Andy. 2 more innings, please.

  • Dela G

    man andy pettite is dealing

    • Zach

      wait for the….”against the marlins”

      • http://theyankeebomber.blogspot.com Conan

        Still a major league team and doing what he’s suppose to. Besides, Marlins aren’t bad – they swept the Jays.

    • BklynJT

      Pettitte pitches so well away from YS3. 2.59 ERA, 1hr allowed, holding opponents to a tOPS+ of 61, compared to 123 at YS3.

  • dkidd

    paul o’neill please stop sharing vacation stories

  • ranger11

    What happened to crap?

    • John

      Andy and the offense dropped a Hughes-like deuce on him.

      • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

        IETC. I’m betting “crap” was Ryan Zimmerman.

        • John

          hehe could be…Phil owned him

  • http://pinstripealley.com Edwantsacracker

    So I was reading Pete Abe’s blog. Is this what it sounds like to you?

    1) Alex asks for a day off. Girardi says ok.

    2) Alex expects today off, when he sees he is still in the lineup. Calls Cashman.

    3) Cashman, A-Rod and Girardi have a group conference in which Cashman instructs Girardi to give Alex two days off.

    Are we seeing problems in communication between Girardi, players, and Cashman or am I overreacting?

    • Zach

      Eh, maybe they talked about giving him Sunday off so he has back to back days off, then Alex woke up or showed up at the stadium and they re-did their plan.
      Dont start up the Giradi v Veterans junk

      • http://pinstripealley.com Edwantsacracker

        I think when they say Girardi against Veterans they are refering to people who really enjoyed playing for Joe Torre.

        I just thought it was interesting. Its been noted on this site and others that Alex has played nearly every game since coming back.

        Alex now gets two days off after a meeting with Cashman.

        • John

          well, in recent interviews, A-rod has been saying he’s been fatigued.

          • http://pinstripealley.com Edwantsacracker

            Is it on A-rod to be more clear to his manager when he wants time off? Or is it on Girardi to know his players better.

            Kevin Long said that A-Rod only has had a few good swings, all the rest he just kinda reached the bat out. Should Girardi be using his eyes more?

            • John

              well, girardi knows how ALex can change the game with his bat so he wanted to keep him in the lineup as much as he can, especially in this slump we’ve been in.

          • John

            and if Alex actually admits something like that, it’s serious because he never wants to be out of the game so they just maybe want to play it safe and decided to give him 2 days off and he’s been slumping too.

        • Zach

          Maybe Joe wanted assurance he wouldnt be fired for benching Alex after the team lost 2/3 to Washington, or maybe Cashman is the GM and is involved in all planning of player injuries

    • John

      overreacting a bit

    • Michael

      Could have just been a mistake. I don’t think we should speculate without knowing more. I’m sure Abraham or another writer will ask further questions about this.

    • Todd

      Personally, I am reserving judgement to see if the story is picked up by other beat writers. Pete Abe seems to have a thing for Girardi. It seems like another one of his attempts to portray Girardi in the worse way possible.

      • V

        And ARod.

  • Reggie C.

    Josh Johnson >>>>> Sean West.

    This yankee lineup isn’t going to have this kind of success tomorrow. Hopefully Arod makes a surprise start.

    • Zach

      Is that what you said before they faced Santana?

      • Reggie C.

        I was skeptical of the team’s chances against Santana. Sure. Its Johan Santana.

        Josh Johnson isn’t going through any dead arm period. Kid’s a straight fire baller. He’s like AJ burnett … with better command.

        • NJY

          u mean ‘with command’

          • Reggie C.

            Heh … i can’t completely dump on AJ. He’s been hit and miss for sure. To win tomorrow, AJ has got to deliver on the mound. There’s no excuse for giving up walks to this weak Marlins lineup.

            • Zach

              yup, weak offense that is top 5 in runs in NL

  • Kilgore Trout

    Anyone have any idea when IPK will start throwing again?

    • John

      When he’s healthy :)

      • Kilgore Trout

        Fair enough. As a pessimistic person I’m going to assume there have been set backs and that is why we haven’t seen news.

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          I don’t remember where I read it, but I recall reading in the last few days that the plan is for Kennedy to resume throwing after the all-star break.

          Of course, that could be outdated information, or completely made-up. So I’m not sure anyone knows.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    Expert analysis, guys. There wouldn’t have been a trade if…there wasn’t a trade.

    It’s why they get paid the big bucks.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Pettitte with a quality start!

    • SouthernYankeeFan

      I’d say its a Damn fine start.

  • ranger11

    I’m forced to watch the Marlins broadcast on Extra Innings and they can’t stop talking about the Yank’s payroll. How did they think they won the World Series in ’97?

    • Zach

      grit?

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    Good play, Melky.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Where are the negative whiny girls tonight? I thought I was on the wrong blog.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Yanks are winning.

  • NJY

    anyone know if Rebecca-Optimist Prime is a babe or not?

    • http://pinstripealley.com Edwantsacracker

      Hmmm… whether Rebecca is a babe or not is an interesting baseball question.

      Anyone know if NJY is a jerk or not?

  • Teix is the man

    keep one, trade one, release one: Arod, Wright, Longoria

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Keep Longoria, trade Wright, release A-Rod.

      But that’s completely contract-driven for me. Maybe trade Longoria and keep Wright if I think that Longoria’s trade stock is higher than his real talent might dictate. Longoria’s contract is so good, it might be…

      • Teix is the man

        I agree with everything you said

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          Here’s an interesting thought-experiment. You are the Yankees. Let’s say you’re no longer on the hook for A-Rod’s contract (suffers a career-ending injury tomorrow, and insurance covers the rest).

          You get the Rays on the phone, and Friedman is willing to deal the Yankees Longoria. The price? Chamberlain, Hughes, Montero, Jackson, and a player-to-be-named later (with the understanding that it’s Heathcott).

          Does Brian Cashman pull the trigger, or does Friedman withdraw the offer before Cashman can decide?

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            Way too much to give up for one player.

            • The Fallen Phoenix

              That’s what I’m thinking, too. I think Longoria’s one of those players that’s untradable simply because it’s nearly impossible to get equal value for him, and that’s solely because his contract is so ridiculously team-friendly.

          • Teix is the man

            cashman doesn’t pull the trigger….they can have hughes OR chamberlain, but not both. If all those prospects pan out, it is still a franchise changer.

          • Reggie C.

            Is that a joke? Two of the best young pitchers in the majors + prospects 1,2,3 ?? Only if we’re getting back David Price, Desmond Jennings, and Evan Longoria.

            • The Fallen Phoenix

              Well, that’s the thing. Is Longoria’s value (measured by talent+contract) equivalent to Hughes *or* Chamberlain + Montero, Jackson, and Heathcott?

              Probably not. But if you’re dealing Longoria, you probably want three star (not impact, star) talents in return. Hughes or Chamberlain would be one, and Montero *might* be the other (his bat certainly looks like it)…but who else in the Yankee system is at that level? Sure, there are plenty of gems in the low-minors that have star-ceilings, but they’re all so far away anything can happen.

              Ideally you’d like to split the difference with someone like Betances or Brackman, but they both probably have too many question marks for the Rays to deem acceptable.

              Again, if we’re talking about trying to match value-for-value.

    • Reggie C.

      Talent dictates:
      Keep Wright (easy. Wright is the best player in NY professional baseball)
      Trade Arod (walks a ton, will hit for power, Ks have dropped)
      Release Longoria (he’s not a yankee)

      • Teix is the man

        My thought is that longo does hos craft in the AL East, thats why i said keep him

        • Reggie C.

          I think Wright can play anywhere. Its just my opinion, but there isn’t a better well-rounded player in NY than Wright. He’s simply a better hitter and defender than both those guys.

          • Teix is the man

            you’re right, i really don’t think you can go wrong wither way

          • The Fallen Phoenix

            Possibly. I think the only real difference between Longoria and Wright is that Wright’s been doing it a few years longer.

            I think in two years, Longoria’s going to be the same player Wright is now. The difference? Longoria’s going to be making millions less.

          • Zach

            Pretty sure Longoria is better then Wright in the field, regardless of gold gloves

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    Twice in one night Swish come on.

  • joe

    these are the guys that have signed:
    6th: Rob Lyerly, 3B
    9th: Gavin Brooks, LHP
    11th: Neil Medchill, LF
    13th: DeAngelo Mack, LF
    18th: Hector Rabago, C
    19th: Luke Murton, 1B
    21st: Joseph Talerico, CF
    23rd: Kevin Mahoney, 3B
    24th: Isaac Harrow, 2B
    25th: Schaeffer Hall, LHP
    37th: Justin Milo, OF
    40th: Ben Watkins, RHP
    Do you know if I am missing someone, or if someone on my list should not be there?

  • John

    Good job Swish for wasting his quota of Double plays in this game

  • J

    Swisher again not playing his game and swinging at first pitches resulting in 2 DPs in 3ABs. frustrating AGAIN.

  • BklynJT

    Swish has been hitting into a hell-of-alotta DPs this year.

    • Zach

      hes around 13-14 a season, prior to tonight he had 5 in 64 games, so he was on pace for 12

  • Teix is the man

    kobe not opting out…..not everyone uses their opt outs!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Sheeet, I would have. He would have gotten himself another max contract.

      • Zach

        Knicks in 2010?

        • Ivan

          Trust me Zack, the way Jeter is a Yankee for life, same with Kobe with the Lakers.

          • Zach

            2 years ago he was bitching to get traded?

          • donttradecano

            Ivans right, once he didnt get traded a couple years back, theres no way hes leaving LA. Lebron to the Knicks has a better chance of happening than Kobe leaving LA. Lakers can pay him more, and his in a market that gives him everything NY could give him. Plus hes on a pretty good team.

            • Ivan

              I still think LeBron sticks with the Cavs at the end of the day, but I,ve said along, that if he does leave Cle, he’s going to the Knicks.

            • Zach

              I agree, but dont compare him to Jeter-Yankees.

              I know its something with the salary cap, but dont get how Kobe has to opt out to get an extension, cant just add 5 years to his deal?

              • donttradecano

                Cant renegotiate in the nba i believe.

    • Ivan

      Surprise there. I assume he would considering he would want one more giant pay day.

      • Ivan

        yea.

      • donttradecano

        Maybe that payday wouldnt be there, ala Manny. Last i heard the economic situation of the NBA isnt too good.

        • Ivan

          Yea, but knowing Jerry Bus, and his huge love for Kobe, he would of gave him anything he wanted.

        • Zach

          its not good for the Bucks or Grizzles or Nets, but its good for LA/BOS, no different then baseball, big markets are going good.

          • Ivan

            Yeah, but if basketball had the same principles as baseball guys like Duncan, and Yao woud be gone from their respective teams.

            • The Fallen Phoenix

              Well, one of the big things is that in Basketball, the formerly-controlling team can almost always guarantee the most money on a contract, if I recall the NBA’s cap rules correctly. So Milwaukee and San Antonio can always offer that extra year (and ergo, the extra $15 or whatever million) over what any other team can offer.

              At least, I think that’s how max contracts work for unrestricted FAs. But I don’t follow the NBA, so I could be completely wrong about all of that.

              • The Fallen Phoenix

                That should read Houston, not Milwaukee.

            • Zach

              principles like salary cap?

          • donttradecano

            Exactly. No other team can afford Kobe or has the cap room. So why opt out and sign say a 5 year deal at $26 mil a year, when you can earn 23 and 24 the next two years, then actually play the free agent market against the lakers, when teams will actually have cap space to make Kobe an offer, without having to trade away player.

            • Zach

              how can he play teams against the lakers? they’re going to offer him a max contract. Right now he has guaranteed 47m, why not sign now and get 120m guranteed, not that he needs the money but still

              • donttradecano

                but the lakers wouldnt have to offer him a max contract, they can just offer him what he gets paid now, since no other team can offer him anything better because nobody has the cap room.

                Kobes not going to go sign a 10 mill contract somewhere. He opts out now, he doesnt have many options, and quite possibly gets the same deal hes getting now.

                Plus, Kobes still trying to ressurect his image, so opting out right after winning a championship would look pretty foolish and money hungry.

  • dkidd

    when the marlins made the world series, did they fill that stadium?

  • John

    Wow…I though I’d never see the day when Cano and Melky draw back to back walks.

    BTW, Melky has been really patient today.

  • dkidd

    berroa has an extremely slow bat

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I just realized I get to see Johan Santana tomorrow!

    (My friend’s a Mets fan, we go to a game a year)

    • dkidd

      go to blue smoke, great bbq

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        and the Shake Shack for the fries and Burgers.

    • John

      I hope he beats the Rays

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Why Aceves? This is a good game to get D-Rob or Tomko some work.

    • Zach

      Robertson pitched yesterday, rather have him available tomorrow in an important spot then in a 5-1 game

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        +1

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    Nice plays from Berroa and Tex. Heh, nice play Berroa. There’s a first time for everything. :P

    • LiveFromNewYork

      That’s what I was thinking.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Nice job Andy.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    there’s a lot of Yankee fans there. Maybe more than Marlins.

  • John

    Standing Ovation for Andy!

    It’s really nice to see his cutter working tonight. He’s way better when it does. Tonight, I think we can say he was pretty dominant.

  • dkidd

    i have no confidence that the mets will close out the rays

    • Zach

      isnt it a save situation right now? why isnt krod in? WHY ISNT KROD IN??? WHY ISNT KROD INNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

      • Zach

        oh Green got out of it, nevermind

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I really want Matsui to turn on one here.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      Turn on one means walk in my language, obviously.

  • dkidd

    matsui up in florida. i’m having flashbacks of 03 and derrick lee

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Jeter GIDP’d. I can’t believe it.

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    man that a lot of GIDP tonight hopefully they get em out their systems in a game they are winning.

  • John

    Good Job by Jeter too by wasting some his quota of Double plays oday.

  • dkidd

    what’s the over/under on mauer’s BA at the end of the season? he’s currently at .426

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      The over/under is probably .400. I say under. Barely.

      • Zach

        how many ABs does it take to qualify as a record or league leader?

        • dkidd

          he’s on a pace for 500, so unless he gets hurt he should qualify

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            If Joe Mauer gets hurt, I’ll cry for days.

          • Zach

            “he’s on pace” counting all remaining games our taking into account hes a catcher so he’ll sit once a week?

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          I’m not sure; I think there’s a PA per game requirement.

          • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

            It’s 3.1 PA/game to qualify for rate stats.

            • Zach

              3.1 * 162 = 502 PA to qualify?

              • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

                Correct.

                • Zach

                  quick math: if he continues to average4.4186 PA per game this season he needs to play in 70 of the next 90 games to get to 502

      • dkidd

        he’s a machine

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      For my fantasy baseball team’s sake, I hope the over/under is .400, and it’s over.

      But I don’t think you can ever bet on a BA over .400, even with what Mauer’s doing. So I’ll peg the over/under at .380, and take the under. Say he finishes between .370 and .380.

      What’s crazy is that Mauer is already a 4-5 WAR player on the season. That’s obscene. Absolutely obscene.

  • The Fallen Phoenix

    And Teixeira just got Jeter’d. Way to flash the glove, Hanley.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    They even do that stupid chant in other parks. Aiyiyi

    • John

      what chant

      • LiveFromNewYork

        hip hip jorge

        • John

          Oh, eh it’s a good thing if its on the road

          • LiveFromNewYork

            I hate it. Jorge hates it. It needs to die.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Ken Singleton invokes Bob Ueker. Nice.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    OK, finish this sentence for me people:

    “A-Rod will not pinch hit tonight. However, he is available to ____ ____, as always.”

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Think of something that rhymes with ‘Pinch hit’

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Grinch shit?

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          *facepalm*

          Where’s TSJC when I need him?

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            A simple wrong would’ve done okay.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              Sorry buddy, its just so obvious.

              Think nicknames. . .

              • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                See below.

            • LiveFromNewYork

              slightly better than “You suck.”

            • dkidd

              i award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul

        • John

          itch pit

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Bitch tits.

        • John

          doesnt rhyme with pinch hit so that cant be it

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          YES!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

          Every time someone mentions Alex and ‘pinch hit’, it reminds me of his nickname.

    • Zach

      pad stats

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        IETC.

      • The Fallen Phoenix

        +1.

    • V

      show-off-his-bitch tits?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        That works.

    • SouthernYankeeFan

      pitch fit??

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Piss on Jorge Posada’s hands for him? Or does it have to be two words?

    • dkidd

      fuck madonna

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        IETC.

        Mostly for how little it rhymes with Pinch hit, bitch tits or anything else.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Why doesn’t Bruney’s hat have a patch?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      You gotta love that new look Bruney has.

      I had no idea the Villiage People were on a reunion tour and looking for a 7th member.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      He bought it from a Vendor on 161st street.

      • Zach

        he bought Mo’s ’96 hat at an auction a la David Wells & Babe Ruth

  • dkidd

    remember that game where you used a magnet pencil to drag bits of black powder around and give a blank face funny facial hair? that’s what bruney’s moustache looks like

    • LiveFromNewYork

      mr fuzzy

  • LiveFromNewYork

    20 million men are on Viagra? JEEZ American men…!!! What the HELL?

    • V

      I don’t need Viagra.

      IYKWIM ;-)

  • Ivan

    Let Hughes pitch the 9th?

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Tomko…good Mo no.

  • John

    Damn cano thats three times now he’s put the 1st pitch in play.

    • Zach

      1st AB- 4 Pitches
      2nd AB- 4 Pitches
      3rd AB- 4 Pitches
      4th AB- 1 pitch

      so no you’re wrong?

      • John

        Oh shit…it’s only twice

        • John

          you forgot the 2nd AB and he’s had 5 ABs today

  • LiveFromNewYork

    I never agree with Kay but yeah it’s strange.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Just had the Mets game on for a second and it got me thinking: does anyone have worse mechanics than K-Rod?

    • dkidd

      veras

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        I was thinking that as well.

    • John

      IDK who else has a open stance when pitching

  • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

    Good job, Yankees. Good win.

  • SouthernYankeeFan

    thats what i like to see from the pitching staff. combined 3 hits and one run.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    You think the Sox would like a do-over on the Dice-K deal right around now?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Check out those stats.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=28631

      We could get Ian Kennedy to do that for MLB minimum. Cost them 100 mil.

      • Zach

        His BB9 is DOWN from last year too. Except his H9 is more then doubled

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          That’s not saying much. His walk rate was awful last year (5.06/9 IP). He was obviously bat shy, and now he coming back over the plate and paying for it.

          They called him a ‘Houdini act’ last year up in Boston, and it looks like once again Harry took one too many blows to the stomach.

    • Zach

      he helped them win a WS in 06.

      thats how i look at AJ’s deal, its probably wont be good at the end, but if he helps win a ring i really dont care

      • V

        Um.

      • Dave

        Eh, after the talk today about how A-Rod is struggling and emphasis on the idea that he is almost 34, makes me cringe thinking about the last 2 years of his deal when hes like 42 and making what 27 mil?

        • The Fallen Phoenix

          He’ll actually be making “just” $20 mil in the last few years of his deal. Not counting the HR incentives, of course…

        • Rob H.

          actually I believe he’ll “only” be making 20 million in the final years of his deal.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I guess, but you could say the same about Dave Roberts.

  • Zach

    Yankees win
    TB lose
    BOS lose

  • dkidd

    that was a comfortingly boring win

    just what the doctor ordered

  • Dela G

    excellent win for the yankees! YANKEES WIN… THAAAAA YANKEES, WIN!

  • zs190

    Good day, Yanks won, Sox and Rays lost and Nady seemed to be close to returning.

  • bizarrojamie

    So the two fake umps in the front row at that Toronto game (they were at the WBC as well btw) are at the Toronto/Nationals game in Washington.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      As a real umpire, I’m insulted by that.

  • ranger11

    Where are the negative guys? If you can comment when they lose, then you can comment when they win.

    • V

      Heh. Lanny NEVER comments on a win. EVER.

      • Scooter

        No doubt he’s crying in his chowder – along with the other trolls (or Lanny’s sock puppets, if he’s that pathetic)

        Gotta think Pettitte’s back is – heh – back to normal. That could be great news for the rotation (and the pen)

        Off-topic – Sergio Mitre might turn into an excellent depth signing by Cashman – check out Chad Jennings’ blog:
        http://community.thetimes-tribune.com/blogs/yankees/archive/2009/06/19/june-19-yankees-vs-indianapolis.aspx

        Low 90s sinking FB with 12-4 GB-other outs.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Sergio Mitre (and to a lesser extent Casey Fossum) are the reason why I don’t take the Yanks too seriously when they talk about not wanting to keep Hughes in the pen, since he wouldn’t be able to start at some point.

          They have other options, and if there’s a long term injury you could send him down to stretch him out and pitch Mitre 1-2 times in the interim.

          • Scooter

            Mitre’s 11 months removed from TJ – so the one question will be his endurance. It sounds like he tired tonight after a strong start.

            So he could be an ideal long man once a week if a starter struggles.

            I’d rather send Hughes back to Scranton (if Wang shows he’s OK), and have him stretched out and ready to step into the rotation if and when Andy or Joba need to skip a start.

            Thinking ahead here – Nady and Mitre both have to be added to the 40-man (Nady’s on the 60-day DL, right?)

            Kevin Russo is looking pretty good again at Scranton. Move 1 is DFA-ing Berroa – you’ve got Russo as insurance. Move 2 could be some kind of deal to clear room on the 40.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              If Hughes fills a role in the bullpen (he does, 7th inning) then I don’t put ‘getting him innings’ over helping the Yanks win games.

              As far as his development goes, there’s just as many people who will tell you the MLB bullpen is the best place for him to develop.

              I don’t think Hughes gets sent down. We’ll see if I’m right or wrong, but that’s my take.

              • Scooter

                You could be right

                As far as learning, I agree with you 100% – the majors is the place for him to learn his craft.

                You wonder if Hughes can get to 150 creatively – skipping Joba a few times, maybe skipping Andy or AJ if they need a rest, and maybe going to a 6-man rotation for a week or two. If he can get to 120 innings, you can tentatively pencil him in as the 5th starter in 2010 (assuming Joba gets to his innings target)

  • Mr. Negative

    Swisher 2 GIDP! BOO!

  • yankees=warriors

    Nice win and bounce back outing for Andy today!
    But…there’s not a lot of fans watching…
    Where’s the usual crowd?

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      I umpired a game til fucking 8:30. Damn extra inning playoff games.

    • Drew

      a beautiful friday is where we went broski. Where’d you think we went? Jared?

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Andy said at home some of those hits would have been HRs. Stadium in Andy’s head.