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I like Hughes in these low-leverage bullpen outings. No need to start him……
No room to start him, you mean.
Look man I was all for Wang being put back in the rotation but it is so plainly obvious that Phil is just better than Wang right now.
wow, those 2 19 win seasons of over 200+ innings mean nothing. Win the war, not the battle.
He is.
But that doesn’t mean that it’s not in the long-term interests of the team to keep running Wang out there until he rights himself. It is.
Frankly, with the 5th best record in baseball, we can afford to keep giving starts to an inferior Wang.
Long term >>>> short term
Your right, there is nobody in the current rotation who is 0-5 and soon to be 0-6 after this game. Or with an ERA of 11.20.
Long term needs >>>>>>>> short term needs
Assuming long term automatically means playoffs is way off.
Technically, the playoffs are way off. Since it’s June and we have a sterling top 5 record, we can afford to take some Wang losses in order to get him straightened out.
If we were 5 back in September and Hughes was still this much better than Wang, the decision would be different. We’re fine.
Im sorry, but no team can ever afford to take losses for the hell of taking losses. Thats a stupid statement to make. These arent the 1998 Yankees.
You are assuming that having Wang lose all these starts is OK because eventually he will straighten himself out. Thats a huge assumption to make is really all I am saying.
I understand where you are coming from, but I think its a huge mistake to just assume this team will make the playoffs no problem and that Wang will turn it around for sure and that they can afford to lose games now w/o paying for it later.
He’s gotten better every time out.
If he wasn’t, I’d be more willing to pull the plug. But he’s not, he’s making progress.
You do realize that 5 IP, 3 ER does not equal automatic loss (that’s if you forget that out #3 was ‘pastadiving ARod’).
Do you?
Do you think that girardi will care about the long term when he gets fired?
I think Girardi’s getting paid to think about the long term.
Then why in the world would they give him a two year deal?
I have no idea what the hell what you just said means.
:facepalm:
Nick Swisher has morphed into Cano all of a sudden.
I was out for a bit, and just finished reading the initial thread. I think I’ll skip reading Spillover Thread I.
How many people have we lost to jumping off the GWB so far?
Sunday I got in late, looked through a game thread, it was literally, ATROCIOUS!
Not enough?
Heh.
It’s been better today actually.
We NEEEEED Al to get on the job. As he goes, we go.
i agree
It always takes me a second to figure out who the hell you’re talking about when you call him “Al”.
I don’t know anybody else that calls him that. It sounds odd on the ears.
Who?
ALex Rodriguez.
It’s Drew’s thing, it’s what he does.
Ah, thanks.
Joe Girardi
I think Jeter calls him that.
What happened to Bitch Tits?
I did a double take and was like ‘huh? AI? Al….Aceves???’
heh, livefromnewyork called me out on that too. I swear I’ve heard Joey G. call him it before.
I’ve brought this up to Drew before and he said Girardi also calls him that and if you listen, he does. But that doesn’t make it right.
As we all know, Girardi has done nothing right. Clearly this is all his fault.
If it’s good enough for Doug Mientkiewicz…
good lord we can’t do sheet
something has to give….. but what? any ideas…..
Ugh.
Swisher has seen about 6 pitches tonight during his 0-4. WTF?
With Gardner’s current batting he should prob move up.
man cmon, there has to be a day where the yankees do SOMETHING against some no name
We need like a sticker in front of dumb posts calling top prospects ‘no names’.
by the way, coming from the guy who was cursing everyone out on the marins game thread, i dont know if you have a right to complain…
Was that English?
Who’s a no-name? Tommy Hanson is the Braves’ #1 pitching prospect and Moylan is a well-regarded reliever.
no no i said that wrong. I know who hanson is, but i mean overall. And hanson has not made a name for himself yet in the MLB, so no name was not far fetched. He will be good, but i guess i shouldve said inexperienced. I praised moylan in the earlier thread, i know he’s good.
So who? Josh Johnson?
josh johnson is not a no name
martis, volstead, stammen, their relievers, the marlins relievers, etc, etc
lannan and johnson are polished big time pitchers
Volstad’s not a no-name. Nor are Lindstrom or Nunez.
I’m not sure what you’re venting about.
Yankees are:
vs BAl 6-3
vs BOS 0-8
vs CLE 5-3
vs DET 2-1
vs KC 2-1
vs LAA 2-1
vs MIN 4-0
vs OAK 2-0
vs TB 4-4
vs TEX 4-2
vs TOR 2-1
vs NYM 2-1
vs PHI 1-2
vs WAS 1-2
vs FLO 1-2
Winning record against every team except Boston, Tampa Bay, and three of the four national league teams they’ve faced.
The Yankees are going to be fine.
It would be nice, of course, if those 2 teams werent our main rivals…
All they need is the postseason, then it’s basically a crapshoot.
Losing to rivals doesn’t count double in the standings.
I didn’t say it did. Thats why I simply said it would be ‘nice’. All I ask for is, near .500 against BOS/TB/TOR(since it seems we’re destined to face Halladay every f***ing time despite the randomness of schedules) and more or less kill the scrubs of the AL. We’re almost there in that regard, so we’re in overall good shape.
It kind of does. It’s a two game swing between a win and a loss.
Of the eight games against Boston, the Yankees have played six in Fenway, and five without A-Rod.
So I’m not really as concerned about them as they look on paper.
Unless they go 0-for interleague, and 0-19 against Boston.
The bats better heat up soon.
interleague losses and Boston losses don’t count double in the standings.
One of those sentences was sarcasm.
Ah.
-WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!?!?
-Germans?
-Forget it, he’s on a roll.
A-Rod ran well there.
boy i want to jump off of a cliff
Do it.
Be my guest.
The hitters on this team have enough talent that they’re going to rebound and regress to the mean, barring injury. And the longer these offensive frustrations continue, the bigger that rebound will be.
And then watch out league.
fuck this
please leave. it will make the game thread more appealing. Anyone who feels the need to constantly bitch and moan, please go to waswatching of LoHud. This place was a nice place to follow the game and I’m getting fed up with this. The only reason I stick around is for the few who make good points. I have to cipher threw all this crap to find it. With less useless post, It won’t be so problematic.
does that really bother you that much? Maybe you should leave.
No, I think it should be the people who have turned this thread into something other then what it was, not the ones who made it enjoyable to begin with. Not saying I’m one of them, just saying that I am tired of these fans who never sat through a bad season and bitch and think the Yanks should go 162-0 (obvious over-exaggeration) and score 10 runs while giving up none. One game does not make a season. Calm the fuck down…done.
I’m calm.
+1
Offense, oh Offense. Where for art thou, Offense?
Offense! Offense! My kingdom for some offense!
http://instantcrickets.com/
No Shakespeare fans, huh?
Lost in the shuffle.
I can’t falt the pitching. Wang and Hughes done everything they could to keep the Yankees in it.
Whenever I see the Yankees batting, they look like the Keystone Cops.
Seeing as how we either lead the league or are top five in most offensive categories, I think you’re suffering from selective memory.
Gotta love the top four guys in the lineup going 1-for-14 so far. Yep… nothing wrong with this team. No, sirree….. Everything is juuuuuuuuuuuuuust ship shape!
Find me a game where any team’s 1-4 hitters go 14-14.
who asked them to do that??? 3 or 4-14 would be fine
If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Yankees would be in.
Seriously, they should DFA those bums.
Or at least make them put in extra work in the cage.
Just DFA? We have to fire Girardi, fire Cashman and pool in our money to buy the Yankees then we’ll go 162-0 forever.
does Alex seem to pressing
Phil is so awesome. Why are people bashing Girardi for taking out Wang? If we were up by 3 runs in the 6th I could understand the outrage. Down by 3 with a man already on base and 1 out, what could Wang do at the plate besides bunt and waste an out? It was the right move and it just failed because Jeter is unclutch.
was reading Pete Abe summaries and it looks like Cody Ransom is coming back. So there is the savior.
At what point does the blame for hitting go to the hitting coach? I know he is not the one swinging the bat but the AB’s over the past two weeks, since Boston, have not been very good. A team this good should not collectively “cycle” ineptness. Usually it is one or two players, but this is starting to be contagious.
Certainly longer than 2 weeks of slow hitting.
Here are some ranks of the Yanks in MLB:
Runs: 2nd
OPS: 1st
OBP: 5th
SLG: 1st
HR: 1st
OPS w/ RISP: 4th
OBP w/ RISP: 2nd
SLG w/ RISP: 2nd
Which stat suggests that the hitting coach should take some heat?
look at Rob Thompson trying to make believe he knows something!
I’m all for Hughes starting in place of Wang and all, but let’s say this happens: Hughes starts, goes 4 innings and gives up 5 runs. Or he struggles in 2 straight starts.
How many of you calling for him to start now would question the decision of taking him away from the ‘pen where he was doing great? I know a lot of people would.. People like complaining.
give me Hughes over Wang and Pettitte, regardless of struggles.
Long term >>>>>> short term.
More overpaid/ Worse Contract: A-Rod or V-Wells?
Jeter
Huh? A contract running through next year for one of the 3-4 best shortstops in MLB. That seems like a pretty good deal to me.
wells by faaaaaaarr. Atleast A-rod to a certain extent will pay for itself. Also A-rod is once in a lifetime type stuff, so itll be a while till he regresses. I think wells has lost a couple of steps since he signed that contract to start with.
Barry Zito
any player 34 or older with 4 years plus left on their contract.
A-rod will be 40 with 2.5 yrs left at 20 per
How exactly will A-rod pay for himself??
Wells.
ARod is one of the few best hitters in the game. Vernon Wells is not.
Depends how A-Rod can rebound from the hip injury.
A-Rod with wells’ contract would be a nice steal.
Depending on how he recovers from the hip injury. If he’s the same player he was previously, then yeah.
Hell, if he’s the same player he was previously, he might come close to living up to his current contract.
boy do I hope your right
Mike Hampton.
Mo Vaughn.
just wen we got our bullpen together, our offence cant hit a lick.
I know to many people it seems an “easy” choice but, Ramiro or Angel (if Ransom is really back tomorrow)?
I want Ramiro to go to AAA and work on some shit.
I’d say Berroa. Ransom is DFA’able when Nady returns and I’ve made it known before that I don’t think Pena’s being all that hurt by not playing everyday in AAA. His ceiling isn’t much higher than the player he is now, IMO.
I agree.
Phil Hughes is so pimp right now I seriously would just hand him a bat and let him win the game for us.
lol
So if Phil’s in the pen, people are screaming for him to start. Joba starts and people scream for him to be in the pen.
People do NOT understand that starters tend to be good pitchers and middle relievers not so much. So a starter in the bullpen will be lights out and when they’re in the rotation they might struggle, esp a young pitcher. I don’t understand why Phil’s performance or Joba’s performance in the pen is such a shock.
I don’t think many people in here support Joba to the pen. At least not the sane ones.
Well every time he starts the chorus seems to get louder. Not here but in general.
How is Hughes able to pitch so well out of the bullpen? I thought he was a STARTING PITCHAHHH. Does anyone think it has anything to do with only have to face guys once in shorter stints? That might be it, right?
God, I hate Fatcessa even more than the Yanks’ offense right now.
I loved listening to him today. “Boston might go six, seven hitless innings, but then they’ll get five hits in a row and make them all count and put up all the runs they need. Because they got gamers in that lineup.”
It was the most hilariously sad “analysis” I’ve ever seen.
Also, sometimes when you flip a coin fifteen times in a row, it’ll only come up on heads one time. And there’s a better chance of flipping a coin and getting heads then getting on base in baseball.
Yeah, he drank the Boston cool aid.
So that means everything boils down to statistics… there’s no room for any analysis of the intangibles, such as toughness, competitive drive, hustle?
It’s all numbers to you? Just measure the numbers and therein will lie the secrets to winning?
If that’s the case, then the nerds can have baseball. There has to be room in this game still for tough guys who say screw the numbers and the percentages. We are winning this game no matter who we have to kill or run over to do it.
Which begs the question I always ask when people rattle off what they heard on his show, why on gods green earth do you still listen to him? I’d rather listen to the news, or hell STATIC than his uninformed drivel.
That.
All the people trashing Francessa listen 4 hrs a day.
Gotta ask:
If its true that almost every single D’Back not named Justin Upton is available … do you go after Brandon Webb now and try to get him on the cheap since he’s hurt?
I thought they were gonna shut Webb down for the year?
In any event, no. He’ll still cost too much, and now he’s got injury red flags. Pass.
I’m pretty sure “Brandon Webb on the cheap” does not exist.
No way he would still cost an arm and a leg. Starting pitching is not what this team needs right now… Not for that price anyway.
No, but I go after Stephen Drew.
Yes..He would be a nice fit..
How about Chris Young (the outfielder)?
Although it looks unlikely at this point that he’ll ever hit for average, maybe he could turn into a useful player. He’ll be 26 in September, has power, and is a great defender.
Meh.
What’s the over/under for runners about to be stranded by the Yankees during the last two innings? I’ll say…… 3.5
I’ll take the over.
i’ll take the under, they won’t get that many on base
I don’t care if we leave 3 more on base as ong as we batted around and the previous 5 men scored.
Bottom of the order coming up…gotta go under and not because they;re going to score. Sad.
Mike Gonzalez’s pre-pitch rocking has gone from slight to absurdly excessive since the last time I’ve seen him.
Whatever works, right? Can’t disagree with the results thus far…
two men having sex is less gay than that delivery
IETC
Hahahahahaha!
Honest to God if I were a player I would be more angered at that delivery than any fist pumping.
Mike G. > Damaso Marte.
True.
ny was gonna trade for him a few years back, i think pit wanted melky, i cud be wrong tho
i bet the yankees get a run here
you can bet, we’ll just hope
man that rocking motion is putting me to sleep
You’d lose that bet
well i was wrong
The whole team looks lost at the plate
Jorge has looked AWFUL tonight.
Posada didn’t even bother to run to first.
i guess he figured it was usless
That’s always a good sign. Especially considering that dropped up pop-up was what, less than 2 weeks ago?
now would be a nice time to see Cervelli. Joe G. and Posada are buds though .. so not running to first is forgiven.
I’ve always felt the catcher is the one position that can reasonably get away with that shit
How would running have made a difference. The catcher had the ball and was between Poasada and first. If the ball had caromed away anywhere else, then he should have run, but not necessarily that particular situation. Running would be akin to the college 3B that runs all the way to the stands on a pop fly that goes out of the park.
wow golden sombrero
at least run to first base jorge
You know what would look great one of these days – one of those “meaningless” 3 run HRs from A-Rod in the 1st inning.
Bobby Cox’s use of Gonzalez and Soriano, while smart, is really pissing me off (I have Gonzalez on two teams), lol.
OH MY GOD I’M PUTTING THE BLADE TO MY WRIST IF MELKY STRIKES OUT
heh
Wow. This feels like …………
yanks offense is bad but…mets batting omir santos 6th/getting 1 hit by joel pinero
I hope we don’t get another shutout. Ever since that shutout in Boston the offense went downhill.
they scored 9 on johan and 15 total against the mets…
I’d be more inclined to believe that the shutout was an effect of an offensive “slump” rather than the cause.
*whew* That was a close call.
Odds on Gardner and PH Damon getting on 1st and 2nd with no outs only to have Jeter hit into a DP in the 9th? Over 75%?
I won’t take that bet, because it’s almost a sure thing at this point.
Watching an old Millionaire episode and a question came up:
Which pro sports team has retired the most numbers?
A.Celtics B.Yankees
C.Packers D.Lakers
Has to be Yankees…?
I’d stick my neck out and say the Yanks, even tho the Pack/Lakers wouldn’t shock me.
Now that I’m thinking about it, the Celtics have had a buttload of quality players too. That’s a tough one.
the guy picked the Yanks and was wrong…it was the Celtics
I think its the Celtics.
Since Jeter’s DP, there has been zero threat.
So, this won’t happen, but would you agree or disagree that firing Girardi tomorrow would spark the team?
What about before the Mets series if the Yankees get swept by Atlanta?
Sorry there is just very little to discuss with this team right now..
Disagree.
I have no idea if firing Girardi would spark the team.
I’d be pretty opposed to firing a manager mid-season, unless the team is wildly underachieving or he’s clearly out of his depth.
Agreed. If this is the way things go through the All Star break, then the two caveats you added would be in play, however. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. I don’t think it will.
They’re going through a bad stretch. They’re a second-place team atop the WC standings. Relax, nobody’s getting fired.
Fire him. He is an atrocious manager. There is no excuse for trying to waste outs with one of your best OPS hitters, especially in the first few innnings. Girardi just doesn’t understand baseball.
ATROCIOUS!!!!!!!!
At least Melky put the ball in play. I’m drawing a blank on who the Braves’ closer is. I hope it’s Jason Neighborgall.
Shit, it’s Soriano, isn’t it.
(Seriously, some team should sign Neighborgall, and install him as the closer. Preferably the Nationals)
You mean the Jason Neighborgall with the minor league career 27.2 BB/9?
(Thanks for making me look that up, it was good for a laugh.)
Yeah. He (allegedly) had two pitches that rated an 80 on the scouting scale (fastball and curve). Unfortunately, he couldn’t throw either of them for strikes. So it goes.
This team looks lost, lost, lost. Listless. They are utterly without list.
That’s why they’re losing 18-0 right now, and are walking off the field. Who needs to play the last two innings?
I wasn’t suggesting that. There’s a difference between suggesting the season is lost and observing that they, right no, look as flat as flat can be.
If Halle Berry took 162 pictures, I’m sure a good 60-70 of them would look less than fabulously stunning.
Someday I hope I’m in a position to prove that.
actually, only one would look good. that’s the truth.
True, but if it was Megan Fox or Eva Mendes, only 10-15 would be less than fabulous and i would blame the camera.
I blame the camera for the Yankees not scoring.
welp
good game.
how did the Redsox series make this team look so shitty? They don’t look anything like the team which had best record in AL two weeks ago.
Dammit.
well that HR may seal the game
Our offense will seal the game.
Can’t wait to hear the optimistic fucking bullshit our RAB bretheren will feed us tonight.
“Well, another tough loss for those gritty Yankees. No need to panic though. 92 games to go. This team will pull it together, blah blah blah. ARod will be the best player in baseball again, and Joba will be Roy Halladay by the time playoffs come around”
Ever since they became affiliated with the Yankees, nothing but asinine optimism. But hey, when you’re in the pocket of the team playing like shit, you have to be right?
I don’t know what’s worse, “the sky is falling” type posts, or this condescension.
I believe he just called Mike, Joe, and Ben sellouts?
That’s only going to further tarnish their already damaged credibility.
What is the matter with you?? They are in 2nd place, they are in the wildcard lead, they still have a bunch of talent. It’s a bad stretch. This is not rocket science.
You couldn’t be any more ignorant. Maybe if you got your head out of your ass and actually read a post once in a while you’d see that we’re not happy about where the team is at all right now.
Don’t make Mike angry. You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry.
What does this even mean?
Yeah we should be cussing out the team. Please really just leave if it’s so painful to watch. Watch another team if you want but this BS is annoying.
except they are well built, and there are 92 games left and there ISN’T any reason to panic? The ledge is over there….feel free to join the others, you’ll have lots of company
This is painful to watch. I may have to stop watching games until they turn it around. Too frustrating — ugh.
Aside from Hughes and Gardner, who both look great.
“I may have to stop watching games until they turn it around”
Thats just what the terrorists want.
Thats just what the
terroriststerriosts want.Fixed.
ICWUDT
That’s just what the
terroristsbearrorists want.Fixed for the final out.
Robertson strikes him out! 4-0 Braves end of 8.
Sit down you worthless old sack of garbage.
Really? That jack was “significant” Mr. Kay? The Yankees have been pretty listless, I doubt 4 runs is much different than 3.
The way things have been going, I’d bet money the final score was 4-3.
9th inning rally starts………..now
i really think me watching the games is bad luck sometimes. I have a pregame ritual of having an astros game on while the yankees are playing, but since the astros started winning, the yankees started losing
Stan van Gundy had a .605 winning percentage with the Miami Heat, including a division title and a loss in Game 7 of the Conf. Finals, and the Heat dumped him.
It’s not all about a team’s record. It’s about whether or not a guy is the right guy for the job. The Yankees being in the WC hunt has no bearing on Girardi staying or going. If the brass think the ship is about to start sinking, an above-.500 record won’t mean squat.
Its about your team president realizing you have a great time and chance at a title so you push your coach and have him quit for ‘personal reasons’ and take the glory
so unless cashman is going to manage this team your analogy makes no sense
You can speculate all you want about why Riley took over, but the fact is the Heat won the title post-van Gundy, and you see how much this Orlando team likes playing for him…. not.
And you cannot assume the Heat would have won the title if the change had not been made.
All I’m saying is that winning pct. isn’t always the deciding factor. The stat freaks/nerds have to realize that there are intangibles in play.
…okay, you win. If a team doesn’t like a coach, they’re not going to play well and win under him. So we can’t look at the winning percentage even…if…it’s…high?
…I don’t…no. Just, no.
On the other hand, I would accept correlation causation, and is therefore one reason why you might not want to look at winning percentage there. But I don’t think that’s what you meant when you wrote intangibles.
That’s supposed to read correlation =/= causation; I forgot that the usual “” does not work due to HTML tagging.
Winning percentage is a “tangible,” so it doesn’t count, see?
Right because Pat Riley is so warm and cuddly on the bench? And all players wear knee pads during practice because he beats them into the ground. but no, they played for him but wouldnt have played for van gundy.
And you cannot assume the Heat would have won the title if the change had not been made.
Nor can you assume that the Heat did win the title because the change was made.
We have no idea how much or how little the change affected it.
Well it did help that Wade played out of his mind and had the refs as his side kicks.
I officially have depression. Good night fellow RABians… or RABers…
Whatever.
Come on Gardner. Time for some grit
I’m surprised people are shocked by posada.
He’s a team chemistry killer, he’s so old school and uptight its fucking sad.
I really wonder what our record this year was with him on the DL and what its been since he came back.
Record with Posada: 23-24
Record without Posada (between May 4-29): 15-8
Overall record: 38-32
You’re right in that Posada’s uptight as hell and a redass. He’s also a great hitter who happens to play catcher. To try and pretend the team is playing worse because they don’t like Jorge is ludicrous. Ludicrous.
Yeah, banjo hitting Cervelli and Kevin Cash are the reason for the Yankees’ winning ways.
Hmm.
I guess he killed the chemistry during all those years of making the playoffs. That jerk.
when gardner comes up now, i expect him to get on base
I realize the current stretch of games/series has been very frustrating but there’s no reason to give up on the team. This is one alarmingly scary lineup and rotation. When everything eventually clicks(and I’m confident it will) this is a team to be reckoned with
Damn right!
They had to be this frustrating to watch at points last year, I just don’t remember it. At least they’ll be throwing CC and AJ instead of Rasner and Ponson, when the recovery begins
It’s felt like Seattle since June started here in New York; maybe it’s applying to Yankees baseball, too.
Just as long as Cashman doesn’t turn into Bill Bavasi and do something stupid like trade Jackson, Hughes, Montero, and Melancon for Roy Oswalt or something.
Take a good look, this will be the last time we see Berroa in pinstripes.
ahah…
I’m gonna miss the little bugger. I think I’m tearing up…
yayyyy!
Tomko should be on the bus with him.
setting my watch for the dp…
double play?
we’ll see how the night goes
berroa?
What does Derek do right here?
2 guesses.
get they be any worse with men on base???
WHy does Cano get a 3 yr pass on his clutch hitting?
right now this team is pathetic… bad fielding, baserunning mistakes all over the place, arod is a disater…
GIDP all over the place, pathetic….
Why would Cano get a clutch hit?
What good reliever would ever in their right mind throw him a strike?
This team is not as bad as they look right now. However, I think it’s also safe to say they probably aren’t as good as they looked for a few weeks there. I’m not sure we have a real sense of who this team is yet. Which is not unheard of in June, but it’s a little disquieting.
phew that was close
Well, at least it was only *1* out.
WOW This is just bad luck at this point.
See things are starting to change already… no DP by Jeter.
1 walk given up by yankee pitchers and the yhave received 6, and the yare losing 4 nothing.
can they get a hit when it matters on this trip???
Cheers for the players, they avoided another game-ending DP!
there’s progress…NO DP!!!!
we’re winning tomorrow fo sho!!!
Yankees will bring the tying run to the plate.
Face-palm
Jeter and Swisher both hit the ball on the screws, and the inning’s over.
who kills our errorless streak? posada
when do we start slumping? when posada returns from the DL
who doesn’t run out a grounder? posada
he totally butchered a play today airmailing a throw into cf? posada
how many WS have we won wit Posada?
How many winning season have we had with Posada?
How many Years has Cervelli played in the majors?
Yeah, Posada should be benched now.
bench? straight out release him
/irrational yankee fan
every players time comes to an end. Unfortunately the time is now for posada. his attitude is gross with girardi and all he does is make faces. You need to listen to some of his post game interviews, makes me wanna vomit
Even with a two week slump, he’s at an .892 OPS. He toooooooooootally sucks.
you know the hitting part is not always beneficial to the team. We had a errorless streak and a 9 game win streak all while posada was on the DL.
says a lot.
I’m tired of giving posada the benefit of the doubt
Oh yes, one 9 game winning streak and no errors. great reason to get rid of Posada. Just like those 06 redsox who set the streak before us. They sure went on to…oh no, they didn’t.
No, it doesn’t say a lot. If Posada was healthy, the team probably would’ve played better and scored even more runs.
He’s a great hitter. He plays catcher. Maybe he’ll have to DH more to keep him healthy, but as long as he can hit, he’ll have a place on the team.
Yes, Posada’s time has come. With the turning of the clock, Posada has magically forgot how to handle a pitch staff and throw out runners. He no longer has the capacity to uses his frontal lobe and his faces he makes is cause the pitchers to throw pitches out of the strike zone…valid point. I stand corrected.
How many years ago was it that we won with Posada?
Then DFA the whole time. How long has it been since anyone on this team has won it all? How often to any teams win it all? Not very sound logic on your part.
I think he’s suggesting putting him back on the DL. It worked so well last year.
yeah there weren’t any other injuries or anything. and we didn’t have giambi at first or anything.
and we didnt play damon in center or anything
and cano didn’t have have his worst year ever or anything
we didnt start ponson/rasner or some other crap or anything
Who’s grasping at straws? Jobamania.
Who’s leaping to conclusions? Jobamania.
Who’s talking out of his ass? Jobamania.
I can’t believe this retarded post got this many responses.
Sigh. I know I’m usually incredibly optimistic, but the offense is pissing me off quite a bit right now.
18 runs scored the past 7 games. They are lucky they have even gone 2-5 in those 7 games.
If a team can collectively “press,” then they are collectively pressing right now. If you look closely, you can see the sawdust coming off the handle of the bat. Very frustrating / stressful to watch.
Castillo says your welcome.
well that really sucked
This team right now is more boring than a little league team, I can’t even bring myself to watch the screen. I just leave the TV open in the background and listen to it.
Smart move by me I’d say, I actually did not waste any time on the ball game and got loads of things done.
Image if you did that every night. You’d probably be making millions of doing well in school (depending on what level in life your at).
I know!
But the crazy thing is, I would rather have those good intense Yankee ball games to watch.
Everybody looks boring when ur not winning.
And look at those super tough Washington Nationals who came to Yankee Stadium and kicked ass! They’re…. getting doubled up by Boston.
Clearly, the Sox are winning those games with heart and moxie.
They were never tough. The Yankees didn’t play well. It shouldn’t come as a surprise to you that they are losing tonight to the Sox.
so does anyone else think we come back tomorrow and wreck shop? we gotta get out of this sometime
I like your optimism! But…no, I don’t.
It will undoubtedly happen, but obviously there’s no telling when.
Maybe not tomorrow…but soon. The whuppin’ sticks don’t stay quiet long.
I blame Brett Gardner for getting on base and not allowing Wang to pitch more innings.
Why did they pull Wang after 65 pitches. If you are not going to let him throw when he is doing pretty well, then get rid of him. If you want to see if he still has it, let him pitch
Had the game been in an A.L. park I’m guessing he would have come out for at least another inning. The fact that it was in Atlanta and the Yanks were losing dictated that he’d be taken out. Had Gardner not gotten a hit there, CMW would have batted.
I’m wishing now that we had saved some of those runs from the last Mets game.
Little did we know then that the Yanks are on rations.
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Anyone else a bit worried about Kawakami? Someone who relies on mixing his pitches, changing speeds, having command? Eek.
I’m pretty much worried about anybody right now.
I’m worried they’re gonna send out the garbage lady at the stadium…. with stuff they’ve never seen before.
he’s probably gonna throw a complete game.
i should pick him up off the waiver wire
If the Yankees faced Wang right now he would dominate.
And Girardi’s seat just keeps getting hotter. The way they’re playing he won’t last the week. Can’t fire 25 players.
Great managerial decisions using/wasting Hughes in these spots. If you’re going to have him in the bullpen he should be in the pen. Not caddying for a pitcher who should be in AAA.
And if the Yankees had scored four runs in those five innings that Wang was pitching – and with the number of runners the Yankees left on base, that’s not at all inconceivable – then Hughes ends up pitching some of the highest-leveraged innings all game.
I don’t think Girardi really did anything wrong today. You’re looking to point the finger at someone who doesn’t exist.
The players didn’t execute, they couldn’t get the hits. They were, quite frankly, outplayed.
This does not mean that they did not hustle, that they did not try, that they weren’t “gritty” enough, or anything like that. They lost. The coin landed on heads, not tails. It happens.
yep. Just out played for the past week. It happens.
Dumbest. Posts. Ever.
In 2006, the New York Yankees went 5-2 against the Detroit Tigers, outscoring them 38-23.
We all know what happened that postseason.
So if they play the Nationals in the World Series, they’re set?
and in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008….not all to Detroit but you get the picture.
How did the Atlanta Braves do in the playoffs from 1991
through 2005?
Or how about 1995 through 2001?
I’ll give you a hint, it’s not going to stop Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, and (most likely) Chipper Jones from going to the Hall of Fame. And those weren’t the only good players on that team.
And that they didn’t win the playoffs every year didn’t make them any less good.
Same as the yankees, which proves anyone who looks at this team on paper and says “they are a good team” need only reference the downside to paper talent.
Is this in reference to being 0′fer against the Sox this year?
It’s in reference to a lot of things, actually. That’s one of them.
man the sox have scored more against the nats today than the yankees did in that entire series
The red sox piling on runs against the nats fail pen? what is that? who ever heard of such a thing!
How is it the Boston Red Sox are only 42-27? The way everyone talks them up, you’d think they were 69-0, and I’m dead serious.
Who expected the Sox NOT to sweep them?
at least we didn’t get complete game 2-hit by joel piniero
We’re also not fielding a team that couldnt beat the LI Ducks.
they pinch hit for wang because they were down by 3 runs with a man on base in the top of the 6th..
it was absolutely the right move so why the f-ck are you questioning it???
another good game by arod, cano, and swish. swish nice move getting jeter to 3rd after he hit a double with no outs.. arod nice for jsut your overall great play, 209 BA.. how many more years of this clown do we get to see? If he is hurt, put him on the DL or give him the addtl. surgery… having the apologist make excuses all yr. for his play is unbearable.
posada with a great game at the plate and another error, at least he did not have a pass ball also.
tex has disappeared and no one has picked it up….
no I am wrong most of the pitchers actually have picked things up…
this team is a paper tiger and has been for years and I am tired of it. have less talent and lose then have a team like this loaded with talent and lose….
Like that “Paper Tiger”. That they are. See results of the Braves referenced above, nearly the same.
But I agree with you. On paper the Yankees have been offensive monsters, but where the rubber meets the road, there baby seals hoping to survive. Lots of money in propping up paper tigers.
Shhhhh…. Just make sure you don’t mention anything about heart, character, or guts, because there is no stat for those things, therefore they do not really exist. So sayeth the wise ones here, anyway…..
So the 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks beat the 2001 New York Yankees because they had more heart, character, and guts.
Ditto the 2004 Red Sox beating the 2004 Yankees.
And the 1998 Yankees beating the 1998 Padres. Actually, the Yankees had more heart, character, and guts in 125 games that season and playoffs than the other team. But less in the ones they lost.
…I think intangibles do exist. Really, I do. I think that a player’s hustle can make a difference. But when it does, it shows up the in box score. Why? Because at the end of the day, that’s how you measure wins and losses – the number of runs you score, the number of runs that they don’t.
Actually, I recant that last paragraph, to a degree. Sometimes a player hustles, and his team still loses. Sometimes a player hustles, and the throw still beats him at 1st.
…my point, though, is that these intangibles – when they make the difference between winning and losing – aren’t invisible. You can, in fact, quantify them, just as you can quantify anything.
Not tired enough to stop watching and go away. I look forward to that day.
I think that there is something that we need to remember with Chien Ming. He is doing an average job against the National League. Not a good sign
This is called the baseball season guys. Your gonna have ur share of highes and lows. At the end of the day the yanks will MUCH better and eventually this part of the season will just be forgotten.
One more thing, I still Think Hughes should start Considering that he’s really caddying a guy who’s he pitching better than and if Wang can get his job back with 8 good innings out of the pen, then y not Hughes. Yes it’s progress, but right now Hughes is the yanks top 5 best starting pitchers really should be given the opportunity.
The next person that claims “its just one game” or “a few bad outings doesn’t make the season” should be banned along with the people who are upset that “this little place was so nice before all you miserable angry whiners came in here”. This is a place for Yankee fans to vent about how ridiculous this team is right now and what they feel should be done about it.
Aka fire the POS manager and bring in someone who relates well to veterans (because um, well, this is a veteran team) and please stop batting a .200 hitter with no defensive ability in the cleanup spot
Firing the manager won’t solve anything.
That .200 hitter is also the best hitter in baseball. Although I agree he shouldn’t be in the cleanup if he is struggling so bad.
That .200 hitter is also the best hitter in baseball, NPD.
Fixed.
NPD?
Non-Pujols Division
Fair enough.
Wait, when did the Yankees sign David Ortiz?
Tell me what firing Girardi accomplishes and who replaces him?
One of:
Bobby Valentine
Steve Phillips
Joe Morgan
Pete Rose
You forgot Tony Larussa. We should all look forward to his patented four pitcher innings.
it’s just one game. A few bad outings does not make the season.
Seriously. The Yankees are leading the wild card. Right now. Even though they have had a horrible couple of weeks.
You keep saying this leading the WC thing. Thats fine and dandy but it doesn’t change how poorly they have been playing now for a few weeks. That line will fade away if this keeps up.
But look at it this way, it’s going to be very hard for the Yankees to continue playing this poorly. I’d put my money on them vastly improving and either a) increase that WC lead or b) overtake the Sox for the division.
And to think Ortiz originally platooned with Jeremy Giambi.
Tommie- its good to see the grizzles wont be taking rubio which means jennings being their at 8 looks even better.
BBTN just said Nick Green is making himself money right now and will get a contract this offseason, wow just wow
Hey, Mike Axisa, are we still as good as Boston? Tell me again how .263 with RISP is EXACTLY the same as .283?
Delusional.
It’s a difference of 10 hits over 500 ABs. That’s not a big difference. The Yankees, not including tonight, have 628 ABs w/RISP. The difference between .283 and .263 in that many ABs is the also small difference of 9 hits.
In fairness, that’s 9-18 runs right there, which would be huge for the Yanks right now.
That’s true, that’s true.
Don’t put words in my mouth, I never said .263 was EXACTLY the same as .283, as you put it. I just pointed out that difference between the two was small.
Let me ask u this, on talent, are the sox better than the Yanks, or that much better than them.
Lets say in July, the roles were reverse, would u still think the Sox were a better team?
It’s easy to think the sox r better now.
What is with all this Mike-attacking lately?
So he fucking disagreed with you about something? WHO THE FUCK CARES but you. NOBODY. Get over it.
It rains constantly..the yanks loose constantly..our pets heads are falling off……Im movin to Aspen…
I don’t know, Lloyd, the French are assholes.
AMAZING reference to dumb and dumber. Much respect.
I got robbed … by a little old lady in a motorized cart. I didn’t even see it comin’.
dc1874, you are my new favorite commenter. My night is now back to normal. Thank you.
We are going to lose every game for the rest of the year.
38-124. You heard it here first.
Pretty much the same record as last year and we added CC, Tex, and Burnett to take the place of Rasner, Giambi, and Ponson. The ship will turn around at some point because this team is better than this.
It’s just getting really frustrating to score so leave so many men on base and get shut down by mediocre pitching. Hanson walked 5 men in 5.1 innings- Normally the Yankees would have shelled a pitcher who did that.
I hope the Yankee fans absolutely bury ARod when he comes back to NY. Put him 6 feet under so he never gets up again. He is the most mentally weak and pathetic “superstar” athlete in any sport. Can’t believe guy is supposed to be on the same level as Tiger, Kobe, Pujols and Brady. He’s a god damn joke who hasn’t won a god damn thing.
I urge all Yankee fans to let this bastard have it when they come home. Keep banging Kate Hudson and getting your eyebrows done douchebag.
You’re a great fan.
Can you go away?
Keep banging Kate Hudson and getting your eyebrows done douchebag.
More proof that the Yankee fans who boo A-Rod are just envious of him…
The days when guys were getting pies in the face almost every other game seem so distant now…