To expand on the discussion the announcers are having, do you guys think that the balance will eventually shift or are we in for a very long period of the A.L. being the Big Boy League?
It’s been that way. But my NL fan friends say the NL is “real” baseball. Other than no DH I have no idea how it even remotely resembles “old” baseball.
I see no reason why the balance of power wouldn’t shift eventually. Sure, some GMs in the NL West may just build their roster to go 83-79, because that’s enough to win the division, but you never know what prospects will turn out to be.
Here’s the thing, though…the best players in the NL will always be able to hang with the best players in the AL. You may have to look beyond the simple numbers to find out who are REALLY the best NL pitchers, but there will always be great players in both leagues.
I dunno…I mean, an optimally constructed NL team just doesn’t have a DH-caliber hitter that doesn’t play a position. I mean…sure, you can take your Prince Fielder and DH him and put someone else at first…but who the hell is that guy, and is he going to be as good a hitter as an AL DH?
So, you add, like…a Shelley Duncan to an NL lineup when they play in an AL park, and an AL team going to an NL park has Hideki Matsui or someone available to pinch hit late in the game…
I just don’t know how you’re going to counter-balance. And the back-end starters in the NL are just mostly not going to be able to hack it in an AL ballpark. Because they CAN manage an NL batting order enough of the time that they’re good enough to eat innings…but there’s nothing they can do with an AL lineup.
Perfect through three! Somebody alert MLB.com we need live look-ins for each of his innings. His chances of pitching a perfect game are at least 95% after being perfect through the first three.
Yes i purposely said literally because given enoug time I could probably find thousands of things I’d rather see a suset over. And yes, boobs would comprise most of those things.
I like Girardi but whenever I hear Cone go on and on about him (and I agree with what he says) I think he can’t bash the guy who caught his perfect game. Not that it’s true. It’s just what I think.
Michael Kay please shut up about CC being perfect for at least 2 seconds. You’re intentionally doing that to tease the people you piss off my doing that.
8 in a row retired by Pelfrey! Oh my God! He’s almost gone through the entire lineup without giving up a baserunner.
Pelfrey is actually not pitching too bad. But the Mets announcers (I have MLB.tv so I hae to listen to them) are ridiculous. They don’t know the Infield Fly rule, they don’t know the check swing rule….lord help them.
you can pick which feed you want to watch on mlb.tv.
either from the main screen where you can list all the games before launching the flash player. or within the player on the right side of the dvr thingie. right above the fast forward, you can change feeds.
he says it bc he knows if a no hitter is actually thrown, he can say its not a jinx when you talk about it. he should start saying it after the 1st just to be sure.
Chances are slim in seeing a perfect game for any broadcast booth. The Red Sox booth has never called one, the Mariners booth has never called one, the Pirates booth has never called one, etc…
Haha I remember that. Man I miss Chappelle. He’s never coming back though, the fame got to him. There’s no way he can top what he’s done so far, so I’d think he wouldn’t come back.
After two pitches, this is the quickest comp. ever. Misch looks like the white Darren Oliver. I don’t know why I thought of that, but as soon as Misch threw a pitch it’s what I thought of.
Leroy Smith: Hey you! Ya want some candy?!
Me: Ahhhh, no
Leroy Smith: Ya sure?
Me: ummm, yeah
Leroy smith: Damn, well if ya need a suga’ fix, ya know where ta fine’ me (creepishly grins)
Me:(Runs fervently)
Is there any logical reason for the Yankees to be so secretive with their minor league injuries? Even Mike Ashmore didn’t know Garcia had surgery until Garcia told him.
See, all Robbie needed was a lefty! I really hope that someone brings in a LOOGY to face him in an important situation sometime late in the year . . . might alleviate his difficulty in “clutch” situations.
the mets, it would appear, DID pay less for their run than the yankees did for theirs, so they’re really getting more out of their investment. I attribute it to their more passionate and gritty style of baseball. I fully intend to bash their lazy, showboating, latino-style baseball as soon as this series is over, however.
-espn’d
I thought innings eater was a term for like a 4-5th starter. Like just a guy there to get you 180-200 innings with an era of 4-4.50? a la Andy was suppose to for us this year
I <3 CC
I love CC batting
The Mutts. I love them.
CC, keep the ball low, please.
Maybe he’s tired from two ABs in the first two innings?
Seriously Kay.. every 5 minutes with the CC PERFECT through 2?
lol
ITS RIDICULOUS! I HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME!!!!
YOU CRETINS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT MIKE MUSSINA LOST HIS NO HITTER BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I SAID ON THE BROADCAST? UNBELIEVABLE!
My favorite was that he managed to work a Holocaust comp in there. Wow. So unacceptable.
Is it even worth noting until he gets into, say, the 5th?
It certainly hasn’t looked like he has historic stuff tonight.
yet he wont ever say it when the other pitcher does it
I know, he should at least mention it after every pitch.
so wait… given the choice, people are actually watching/listening to Michael Kay over Gary, Keith, and Ron?
i dont get that.
Gotta love the Mets
Nick Evans, you are not worthy.
damn that smile of the game
Wait, but seriously…details about the 2nd? Was it just that cora threw it away throwing to first, and then Evans booted one?
Wright blew a play to start the inning, as well.
Yeah, but that was a tough play to start with. Melky probably would have beaten it out as is.
One of those swinging bunts into no-man’s land? Shoulda just eaten the ball.
True, but Wright probably should’ve pocketed it. Melky got pretty lucky that he made it into second as well.
cora threw it away at second. Then evans, literally dropped a sure out right next to the bag.
Ah.
Man, how does the SS throw away a ball to the 2b?
the Mets, one of the 7 wonders of the world
It wasn’t a smile.
it was a blank, vapid stare that said…”Sure, I’ve got some time to kill.” I could work with that!
she was kinda slammin…
i wouldn’t have said no…
Please tell me you’re wearing pants now.
Kay plugging his radio show while ignoring calling balls and strikes is why he has to go.Michael is all about Michael.
he problably ksses himself in the mirror =)
To expand on the discussion the announcers are having, do you guys think that the balance will eventually shift or are we in for a very long period of the A.L. being the Big Boy League?
It’s been that way. But my NL fan friends say the NL is “real” baseball. Other than no DH I have no idea how it even remotely resembles “old” baseball.
They have older managers like Piniella, Torre, La Russa, and Cox?
I see no reason why the balance of power wouldn’t shift eventually. Sure, some GMs in the NL West may just build their roster to go 83-79, because that’s enough to win the division, but you never know what prospects will turn out to be.
Here’s the thing, though…the best players in the NL will always be able to hang with the best players in the AL. You may have to look beyond the simple numbers to find out who are REALLY the best NL pitchers, but there will always be great players in both leagues.
It’s the OTHER guys that suck more in the NL.
Clearly. But I see no reason why that would continue to be the case, with year-to-year turnover.
I dunno…I mean, an optimally constructed NL team just doesn’t have a DH-caliber hitter that doesn’t play a position. I mean…sure, you can take your Prince Fielder and DH him and put someone else at first…but who the hell is that guy, and is he going to be as good a hitter as an AL DH?
So, you add, like…a Shelley Duncan to an NL lineup when they play in an AL park, and an AL team going to an NL park has Hideki Matsui or someone available to pinch hit late in the game…
I just don’t know how you’re going to counter-balance. And the back-end starters in the NL are just mostly not going to be able to hack it in an AL ballpark. Because they CAN manage an NL batting order enough of the time that they’re good enough to eat innings…but there’s nothing they can do with an AL lineup.
Tex not playing his ballgame there.
CC can pitch again tomorrow at this rate.
he can come out and lock down the 8th for AJ.
damn i wanted another K there on the 0-2 pitch…gettin greedy here
Perfect through three! Somebody alert MLB.com we need live look-ins for each of his innings. His chances of pitching a perfect game are at least 95% after being perfect through the first three.
It would be a hoot if a rookie who should even be in the bigs caught a perfect game.
*shouldn’t
Well we know Jorge could never catch a perfect game. He makes horrible calls for pitches that result in the pitchers having inflated ERAs.
Actually Michael, there’s literally THOUSANDS of things “like a sunset over Flushing”
literally? thousands? literally?
Yes i purposely said literally because given enoug time I could probably find thousands of things I’d rather see a suset over. And yes, boobs would comprise most of those things.
There are easily 500 women with boobs nice enough that I would rather see them than anything that happens to be happening in Queens.
thousands of boobs?
Wait…you’re surprised that pat wants to see thousands of boobs?
Really? I challenge you to find a man that would say “no” to the question “hey, would you like to see thousands of boobs?”
TJSC: where’s your gratuitous YouTube link now?!?!
exactly.
well sure, CitiField seats what, like 45,000?
It was Cone and Leiter.
this umpire is beyond terrible
That was low and outside.
I like Girardi but whenever I hear Cone go on and on about him (and I agree with what he says) I think he can’t bash the guy who caught his perfect game. Not that it’s true. It’s just what I think.
Come on, Tex. Don’t help him out on pitches like that.
86 pitches, lets get to that met pen
The Mike Francesa Guide to Pronunciation
they forgot pitchah! ha that was funny
Is it just me or are those “New York New York Sports Sports” or whatever ads more than just vaguely racist?
Missed the ad, what happened?
if by ‘vaguely racist’ you mean ‘hilariously enjoyable,’ then yes, i agree.
Michael Kay please shut up about CC being perfect for at least 2 seconds. You’re intentionally doing that to tease the people you piss off my doing that.
join me, and turn on SNY.
Yeah I like SNY better than YES. They are more fair and have better commentary.
“It used to be etiquette to have black people as slaves. There are a lot of rules that don’t make sense, that’s why there was Nazi Germany.”
I never heard that so at first I was like WTF are you talking about? Then I clicked the link and I LOL’d.
He doesn’t call that 0-2 a strike after the pitches to Damon/Frankie? Please.
Vin Scully come back.
I still take Pedro’s 2000 season over everyone else.
Or are they just going Yankees/Mets?
Oh, yeah, no question.
Pedro 2000 vs Gooden 1987
dirrrrrty
CC: eat my shorts check swing
Mike Tyson’s Punch Out 2009!!
Mad Dog v Mike Francesa
Joel McHale goes on about a guy named Mike Hawke
I’d take that convo over the Spud Chandler convo
LETS GO CC! wow he’s damn amazing
That was about as tense as an AB in the 4th inning can be.
Couple nice hit balls by Wright, but they end up just well hit outs.
He’s having a great year.
You got to love the Mets. three errors, getting no-hit through four. like Mike said “Hah…the Mets.”
David Wright is so jealous of A-Rod’s arm.
Perfect through 4.
The only thing Amazing at Citi is the Mets suckitude
AROD! with the dive and throw!
That wasn’t a dive.
News of the death of CC’s arm has been greatly exaggerated.
KLong needs to smack Robbie.
And Robbie makes an out practically before the return from commercial. Eek. If he’s still hurting, give him another day.
eh, that was a hard shot back through the box.
That’s what she said
Stop. Swinging. In. Early. Counts.
That would have been in the third deck in YSIII.
/bandbox
It would have been on River Avenue
TWO PITCHES? FER MO’S SAKE
Is the WW
FE still relevant?CM Punk still is.
Sure?
only if bruney gets to fight krod in a steel cage match
Are these guys kidding? The last four hitters have gone down on what, 8 pitches?
Nice battling. sheesh.
8 in a row retired by Pelfrey! Oh my God! He’s almost gone through the entire lineup without giving up a baserunner.
Pelfrey is actually not pitching too bad. But the Mets announcers (I have MLB.tv so I hae to listen to them) are ridiculous. They don’t know the Infield Fly rule, they don’t know the check swing rule….lord help them.
Pelfrey hasn’t done too poorly. The second inning was soft liners, ground balls that found holes, and Little League-quality defense.
you can pick which feed you want to watch on mlb.tv.
either from the main screen where you can list all the games before launching the flash player. or within the player on the right side of the dvr thingie. right above the fast forward, you can change feeds.
I really hate Kay. I wish we could start a petition.
michael kay is a douche
I’m really starting to think he wants to piss off the fanbase by saying perfect after every damn out.
he says it bc he knows if a no hitter is actually thrown, he can say its not a jinx when you talk about it. he should start saying it after the 1st just to be sure.
Agreed.
Too much bandying about of the word perfect. Bad luck.
No clutch Arod. It was in the 10th row. You could have had that.
fucking sheffield and kay
I knew that was coming.
Sheff is still the worst dude.
Damn it
damn you michael kay for effing up this perfect game
im convinced well never see one with kay in the booth.
Not if he starts calling them in the first inning. He’s an idiot.
Chances are slim in seeing a perfect game for any broadcast booth. The Red Sox booth has never called one, the Mariners booth has never called one, the Pirates booth has never called one, etc…
the comment went over your head.
I wonder how many no hitters and perfect games are broken up by a HR. it seems to happen an awful lot.
Sheff is good against CC
How long before Sheff alleges the Mets are racist? I figured it would have happened by now.
Jerry Manual doesnt like black people
Hah, IETC.
First thing I thought of was that skit on Chappelle’s Show about the blind black guy who was in the KKK.
Haha I remember that. Man I miss Chappelle. He’s never coming back though, the fame got to him. There’s no way he can top what he’s done so far, so I’d think he wouldn’t come back.
So far he’s only accused Mr. Met. the rest will come.
Kay got excited because he got to say, see ya.
i love how kay always says “Big Healthy Cut”
and “Driivennn out to x field”
Sheffield is an angry man. He imagines the ball is Joe Torre’s head.
Love the unnecessary slide by Tatis.
School of Melky
gritty play by stupid players
I don’t get why the fences at Citi are so high. With deep fences, wouldn’t you want them to be low to “even” it out a bit?
On that note, I want to see 450 ft. fences that are 3 ft. high.
fuck fences.. how about boundaries like in cricket
Cricket? Nobody knows cricket. You gotta know what a crumpet is before you can play cricket.
I know it pretty well
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100758/quotes
Here comes the comment from Kay about a shattered bat hurting someone.
Dammit. Come on, CC. Settle back down.
cmon cc, you can get out of this!
Need a nice dp here.
Omir Santos GIDP, please.
“off the scrap heap”
nice description of calling a guy up.
CC’s arm is shot. This don’t look good.
oaktag
What? Really?
Batshit crazy.
CC will get out of it, but those Cano and Melky at-bats sure could have given them a nice cushion if they just glued their bats to their shoulders.
heh, behind the plate it says ‘losmets.com’
lets hope they lose too
i was implying their latin bias, but touche!
we have beisbol behind home plate at NYS
everytime i see that i see boli and it pisses me off!
LMFAO
LMFAO
LMFAO
Santos fail.
I remember reading on ESPN about how CC is struggling (relative to last year, when he was lights out) in the later innings.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/notebook?page=bbtn
Link is there.
Only winning players strike out on pitches that hit them in teh back toe
True grit.
al is a moron
yes those were shake shack burgers…
Scouting report on Argenius Reyes? Is that even necessary?
Dave: You know this guy?
CC: No.
Dave (to Frankie): You?
Frankie: No.
Dave (looks at Reyes): Strike this mother fucker out.
Oh I forgot:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand scene.
IETC
LMAO
They finally shut up.
Looks like we get four delicious innings of the Mets’ pen. Mmmmm.
Argenis Reyes pinch hit?
Might as well have left Pelfrey in there.
He’s batting 1.000!!!!!
attaboy CC!
CC is shot, get him out of there!!1!
Need to add some runs this inning.
Insurance runs would be nice.
mike pelfrey to teh pen! he stah-ted teh game, only went fwyve innins’ gave up faw runs, and da met faaaanns go gaga!
dey go gah gah! yankee fans aw gah gah ovah Jobbah
Pat Misch?!?!?!? Pat freaking Misch?!?!?!
Awesome.
Once again, it’s REALLY nice having an ace (sorry Wangy, you were good too)
After two pitches, this is the quickest comp. ever. Misch looks like the white Darren Oliver. I don’t know why I thought of that, but as soon as Misch threw a pitch it’s what I thought of.
I have a really bad feeling that in an important game this year, C.C will be pitching phenomenal and then he’ll hang a slider.
what are you talking about?
In terms of “pitches I’m worried CC will hang”, the change ranks much higher than the slider in my opinion.
Think about it. He just hung one to Sheff. He hung one to Willy Aybar. He hung one to J.D. Drew. He hung one to Papi.
lol at this guy throwing sliders
What an AB by CC!!
Grit and guts got em that knock.
Ehh run grit!
GRIT GUTNER!!!
Grit is gettin his game on…if he can do this over a season, he’s gonna a productive player.
5th in AL in steals with about half the atbats that other guys have
damn that’s hella nice
nice winning play omir
GRIT IS AWESOME!
Grit is going for some kind of record for stolen bases which mean nothing.
damon you have to swing at that sheet
Ajax went 0-5 2K
good gamesmanship from the mets
what happened?
nothing, CC just had to wait awhile for the groundscrew to come out to fix the mound
oh…that’s good
Roosevelt Island. Another sucky place that you cannot believe is part of NYC.
doesn’t gossip girl film there?
doesn’t gossip girl film there?
I don’t care who films there (I don’t watch Gossip Girl), it’s a pit. Well there’s no there there.
anyone else creeped out by that one advertisement ‘taste my desire’ with leroy smith? he looks like a pedophile.
I get creeped out by the White Castle burlesque pig commercial. I don’t know what the hell that is all about.
Yeah, but leroy smith looks like he wants to lure us into his basement!
maybe the pig is there. ew.
I am. I was gonna bring it up one of these days.
Leroy Smith: Hey you! Ya want some candy?!
Me: Ahhhh, no
Leroy Smith: Ya sure?
Me: ummm, yeah
Leroy smith: Damn, well if ya need a suga’ fix, ya know where ta fine’ me (creepishly grins)
Me:(Runs fervently)
heh
Leroy: Hey, where you goin? Don’t you wanna taste my desire?!!!
heh….LMFAO
Yeah, ‘taste my spread-eagled desire’ is definitely creepy.
First replay of the night of Castillo’s defensive prowess!
ROBBIE CANO!
lazy cano uses one hand
You got nothing, David Wright. Nothing.
sabathia looks very very very filthy
racist…
I’m black though
then shame on you!
It’s okay. He’s takin’ it back.
Is there any logical reason for the Yankees to be so secretive with their minor league injuries? Even Mike Ashmore didn’t know Garcia had surgery until Garcia told him.
trade baiting?
True, but you can’t trade guys from the DL
Isn’t surgery a daily thing for Garcia?
He has one with every meal
Haha, IETC.
That’s funny
Luckily, it’s apparently relatively minor surgery — removing bone spurs/chips from the elbow. Still, he’s done for the year.
I wonder if he’ll ever have a healthy season.
Some insurance runs would be really nice . . .
Get the ball in, Tatis…
CANO! with the heads up baserunning!
Cano with a hustle double. The Mets had to work extra hard to make that one happen.
kay went to the Gammons Institute of Red Sock Rod Sucking, or GIRRS
Robbie doesn’t do the one pitch/one out thing. Tah-riffic. Good base running.
Make em pay Cisco.
gotta think you pinch hit Jorge to break it open perhaps?
You stay here. No I think I’ll go for a stroll with bases loaded.
See, all Robbie needed was a lefty! I really hope that someone brings in a LOOGY to face him in an important situation sometime late in the year . . . might alleviate his difficulty in “clutch” situations.
the mets, it would appear, DID pay less for their run than the yankees did for theirs, so they’re really getting more out of their investment. I attribute it to their more passionate and gritty style of baseball. I fully intend to bash their lazy, showboating, latino-style baseball as soon as this series is over, however.
-espn’d
make them pay for the disrespect Cervi!!!
just like the mafia
haha exactly
First Pat Misch and now Elmer Dessens? This night keeps getting better and better.
We need a Shawn Estes sighting.
I think I saw Jeff Fassero warming up.
Someone get John Burkett on the phone.
Is that … Jeff D’Amico?
Rickey Bones is that you?
Hey look, Pat Rapp. Good for him.
Why is it getting better? We haven’t scored off either yet.It’s not like it’s 10-1
It’s funny because these guys are such retreads.
Which makes the lack of insurance runs slightly irritating. Just slightly, though.
Ahhh! right. My bad, buddy.
man that was BARELY foul!
DROP IT!
damn it!
Ramiro can come through
Thats aight, i kind of want it to stay 4-1 anyway.
Damn it, how the hell did dessens get those two outs..
I would’ve even been less disappointed with some weak ass bunt attempt
I guess we can’t expect the bottom of the lineup to continue to produce runs.
Next time drop it Castillo! I know you can do it.
Sheff has a grudge against everyone
Sheff = HOF?
I think so. How does a guy with that swing have 300 more walks than strikeouts in his career?
are those BBs intentional?
What hat will he wear?
Florida
Not Milwalkee? ha
The power of teh fear?
I imagine he’s pissed off a lot of the voter’s, so I’ll say he’s not getting in, plus the whole roids thing
Michael Kay knows what Sheffield thinks. He’s like miss cleo
Solid D from Mr. Cabrera.
He almost overran it.
When Sabathia is called an innings eater, is that a fat joke?
only for Ponson (because he really cannot give you a lot of innings)
No, not at all, it’s a common term. It’s used to describe guys who just throw a boatload of innings year after year. Derek Lowe, Javy Vazquez, etc.
I was kidding! LOL
I thought innings eater was a term for like a 4-5th starter. Like just a guy there to get you 180-200 innings with an era of 4-4.50? a la Andy was suppose to for us this year
CC coming back out or PH him?
CC mentions high pitch counts as a possible reason for his struggles, and has 99 through 7. I like. Some sort of relief pitcher for the 8th?
Evans, Santos, Murphy(PH)? Next inning so i guess leave him in
Why does Russ Salzburg scream…?
Then again, he’s facing the bottom of the Mets lineup.
haha swisher’s workin that knob!LMAO
“swisher still workin that knob!”
hahahaha i can’t believe cone said that
Coney has to work at least one sexual innuendo into each broadcast. Not sure how I feel about that.
He totally regretted saying that!
HOLY SHIT GARDNER
fuckin bandbox!
SHIT No chance to steal! Dammit!
TEH BANDBOX!!!!!
Gardner!
HOW FUCKIN GRITTY WUZ THAT? GIMME YO JOB MELK.
GRIT GUTNER WITH THE 4/5 GAME!
WHOOOOOOOO GRIT!
Awesome
Brett Gardner!
If Brett Gardner takes you deep … just retire.
In a big park like Citi Field no less lol.
THE GRITTY GUTTY BRETT GARDNER WILLS A HR OUT OF THE PARK!!!
Whawhawhaaaaaaat!?!?!?
Gardner just had enough grit to hit it out.
Gardner hit one out here? Now I’m just confused.
The evil evil empire must have made some super secretive plan to bring their bandbox on roadtrips.
Don’t look now, but Grit is hitting 298!
In Citi Field??? Damn Gardy, he needs to use that short porch in YSIII more.
The answer is Melky. Melky sits, not Swisher.
We are out of the NL in 2 days. Neither sits.
Rookie of the Year?
He’s there to steal bases not to get freaking homeruns.
Grit fail.
My eyes popped out of my skull cartoon style watching that HR sail away
Steep decline.
but his hip and his peds and kate hudson
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
TEH BANDBOX!!!
ANNNN A BOMB FROM AAAROD!
seeee yaaaaaaa
Gardner and Rodriguez say “Fuck deep fences.”
Still not clutch.
Now I think it’s safe to take CC out and put Hughes in for an inning…or two
HERE COMES A-ROD
I’m having a good freaking time right now.
WE WANT RANSOM!
Good sign for ARod.
BUT TEH A-ROD IS DONE!!!1!!
This pitcher is a real Yankee.
I knew it!!!!
Pffft, stat padder but in the 8th.
A-ROD: “THAT WAS 4 YOU BABE”
They don’t scored on da base hits…just da hom-as
francesa’d
dessens doing his best tomko impression – star prospect turned mediocre mopup duty.
Funny, they let CC bat, and now they can probably pull him and let someone else pitch the 8th.