Jun
28

Open Thread: A lazy Sunday

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It’s a quiet Sunday around here. The Yanks don’t play until 8 p.m., but there is a full slate of afternoon games. The Braves and the Red Sox square off on TBS, and that game started at 1:30. The FIFA Confederatiosn Cup final featuring an improbable match-up pitting the U.S. against Brazil starts at 2 p.m. on ESPN.

We’ll be back at 4 p.m. with some Yankee news. Anything goes. Just play nice

Oh, and chew on this one: Brett Gardner has five hits against the Mets this weekend. The Mets have four hits against the Yankees.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Billy Mays RIP =(

    LET’S GO USA! USA! USA!

    • Tom Zig

      yeah wow Billy Mays dying is so unexpected.

      I loved his commercials

    • Jake K.

      Glad there are some other footie fans here.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        But of course!

        • Jake K.

          Hopefully we’ll make a better showing than in the group stage. Not having Bradley hurts, but at least it increases our chances of actually finishing a game with 11 men on the field.

  • Bill

    I hope Tommy Hanson holds up in this game. It’s 95 degrees there and the flu must have traveled from the Yankees locker room to the Braves. I think the Braves can score a few more runs off Penny and give us a shot to get within 3 tonight.

  • K.B.D.

    The TBS announcers are trying to argue that catchers really don’t need a high average or OBP because “Really, what are they going to do on the bases anyways?”. Score runs, maybe?

    • Jake K.

      Yeah, but scoring runs only matters if you want to win the game.

    • Bill

      Buck Martinez is an idiot as are most announcers. I remember Harold Reynolds saying something similar recently on the MLB Network. Reynolds even reiterated Dusty Baker’s “clogging up the bases” theory. Braves with 2 men on, 1 out but Jeff Francoeur is up.

      • K.B.D.

        I just don’t understand how these people can hold down jobs in the face of their staggering ineptitude.

  • Mike Pop

    What is the range for a good ERA+?

    • K.B.D.

      Well, I guess anything higher than 100 would be “good” as it would be better than average, but I’d say starting around 115 you’re starting to get a substantially better performance.

      • Mike Pop

        Hmm, thank you. I was just thinking about it and was wondering what the range was to be considered a good era+.

        Joba is at 115, I wonder if that’s exceeding expectations……

        • K.B.D.

          The thing about ERA+ is it’s all relative: he could be sporting a 2.00 ERA and a 80 ERA+. It’s not likely, but it’s possible.

          • Steve H

            A 2.00 ERA and an ERA+ of 80 would mean that the pitcher is pitching extremely poorly. That’s what makes ERA+ so great. Bob Gibson’s 1.12 in in 1968 was an ERA+ of 258. Pedro’s 1.74 was a 291. So on ERA alone, Gibson crushes Pedro, but we know that Pedro’s 2000 season was much more impressive than Gibson’s 1968 season because of ERA+.

            • K.B.D.

              I think we can all argue that a 2.00 ERA is a good thing, not a bad thing. When you’re talking about the ERA+ of 258 and 291 and which is objective more impressive, I think you’re splitting hairs.

              My point is only is that ERA+ doesn’t tell you if they’re pitching poorly or well, it tells you how they’re pitching in relation to others.

              • Steve H

                A 2.00 ERA would not be a good thing if the league average was 1.60. It just wouldn’t.

            • keith

              That’s incorrect. An ERA+ of 80 with and ERA of 2 just means that the league average ERA would be 1.6.

              • Steve H

                Yes, which would mean the pitcher was a well below average pitcher.

    • Jake K.

      For reference, AJ Burnett: career 111 ERA+. Pettitte: 116. Pedro: 154!

      • Steve H

        Nolan Ryan 111. And his career ERA+ with the Rangers was 116, higher than any other team he was on. In his 40′s. But again, Clemens had to be juicing to do what he did late in his career? But then again, since Nolan is already in the HOF, there’s no way he was a juicer, right?

  • Mike Pop

    Wow, got Frenchy on the helmet there.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Francouer just got hit in the head with a pitch.

  • Soriano~40~40

    Looks like we’re gonna see Jose Veras pitch for Cleveland sooner than we thought. They already brought him up to the major league ballclub..

    I except the same old herky jerky w/ zero command, but watch him become the next dominant reliver haha not.

    • Mike Pop

      I expect him to turn into a 2008 version of Grant Balfour.

      Haha.

      • Drew

        lol, well good thing he went to cleveland!

  • Drew

    Are ya ready for some football!!!

    • Drew

      good to hear our anthem on the World stage.

      • Jake K.

        Ugh, that field is not in great shape.

  • thurdonpaul

    i was at last nights game at citi, i had a met fan next to me, he was very sad at the end of the game :)

  • Bill

    lol Big Papi playing defense.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    MAn, South Africa looks COLD this time of year.

    • Drew

      Lol I know, wth is up with that!

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Winter in the southern hemisphere!

  • CharlieD

    Isnt it interesting how Gardner at .291 is on a tear and Melky at .292 is on a swoon…

    • Drew

      Melkman had two ridiculous months and 3 bad weeks.

    • Jake K.

      I’d guess it’s because Gardner is hitting .348 in June, compared to Melky’s .233 for the month.

  • Drew

    I’d like to see a soccer match in YSIII

  • Salty Buggah

    Can you believe Ramiro Pena didn’t get a web gem?!!!

    Here are the Web Gems: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4292529

    I don’t really think Matt Kemp’s was that good…

    Once again, a Yankee gets snubbed but Ellsbury gets one all the time for normal catches.

    • K.B.D.

      Eh, most of the WebGems are people in the outfield taking terrible routes to balls, forcing them to lay out to make a play, or a infielder with sub-par range making a diving stop that a Marco Scutaro plays standing up. I stopped caring about ESPN’s coverage of baseball awhile ago: they employ John Kruk.

    • Jake H

      Franky from the M’s shouldn’t have been there. The only reason that he had to dive for that ball was because he froze, went a half step back and then came in. He comes in he catches that easy.

  • Drew

    The pitch is getting tore the fuck up already.

  • Drew

    NONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    GOAAAAAAALLLLLLL

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    US LEADS!!!

    • Drew

      What a save by Howard.

  • daneptizl

    Dempsey caught em sleeping.

  • Jake K.

    Looked like Dempsey whiffed and it hit him on the knee. But who the hell cares!

    • Drew

      Nah I think he just touched it on with his foot.

    • pat

      heh, another garbage goal for dempsey, but I’ll take it.

    • K.B.D.

      DONOVAN.

  • daneptizl

    Cotdamnit.

  • DreDog

    I guess the Tommy Hanson vs. Hughes debate is over?
    Tommy >>>>>>>> Hughes?

    • Whozat

      That discussion won’t be over for years.

  • pat

    Altidore es muy macho.

  • daneptizl

    What in the world was Bocanegra doing.. trying to more than just steal candy…

  • Drew

    I don’t ind the attacking but we have to be careful. We can’t be getting caught with our junk in our hands.

    • Drew

      *mind

  • Jake K.

    C’mon Jozy!

  • Drew

    Not liking these matchups with Spector..

  • Jake K.

    Howard is saving our bacon.

  • Drew

    GTFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    GOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • pat

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    USA BY TWO!!!

  • daneptizl

    That’s that red, white, and blue shit.

  • Salty Buggah

    Let’s win this US!!!

  • daneptizl

    Beast Mode save.

    • Drew

      +1

  • Jake K.

    This is the most dangerous I’ve seen the US look. We have more goals in us today.

  • pat

    Terrible set play

    • Jake K.

      Seriously. Not what you’d expect from Brazil.

  • Jake K.

    I’m amazed we’re causing Brazil so many problems with such young, inexperienced forwards.

    • daneptizl

      Altidore needs to start coming alive.

      • Jake K.

        I’m not calling him lazy, but it seems like he doesn’t come up with some balls he should.

  • Drew

    Come on guys it’s time to hunker down!!

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Who saw this coming?!

  • Jake K.

    So who would be the baseball commentator equivalent of JP Dellacamera? Superficial knowledge of the game, unlikely to say anything controversial or remotely insightful/interesting.

    • daneptizl

      Thank goodness Joe Buck got embarrassed on his show.

      • Jake K.

        Boom, you nailed it. JP is Joe Buck. I tip my cap to you sir.

  • K.B.D.

    I don’t like drama. Let’s come out in the 2nd half, score 5 and call it a day.

  • Billy

    dan brewer is really tearin it up so far in tampa. he’s 5 for 6 so far in the double header

    • Brandon

      Was he just recently called up?

      • Billy

        yep. i think he can be a real good 4th ofer down the line

  • pat

    Im fuckin dreading having to watch the yankee game in ESPN.

    • Billy

      kay isnt much better than the espn guys

      • Zach

        im thinking of watching the game on mute with WFAN in the background

        • Billy

          howie rose is really good

          • Zach

            Yeah, just hope its not a delay between the two

            • Billy

              there probably will be

        • Billy

          the good announcers/commentators are wasted on the mets

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Two options:

        1) Mute.
        2) SAP button.

        • Billy

          i can never find the SAP button

      • pat

        Yeah but at least kay will talk about new york stuff and would have cone or leiter to bullshit with. The guys on ESPN are insufferable. All they talk about is bandbox, payroll and bosox.

        • Billy

          kay kisses so much ass and he has his girly laugh and he’s always on oneil’s dick

        • Zach

          dont forget joba to the pen and trading beltran

          • Zach

            and the Red Sox depth/organizational amazingness that has Brad Penny as the 3rd best starter on the roster

            • Billy

              and how great a signing john smoltz is, better than cc and aj and tex combined. the sox are so frugal and financially responsible. so gritty … jason varitek.

          • Billy

            and how we never produce young players even though they take about putting one of our young players to the bullpen and how dominant he is there

  • Jake K.

    Fugg…

  • pat

    Fuckin A

  • Jake K.

    Coulda done without that.

  • Billy

    i always hated michael jackson but now i feel bad for him. he died real young and had a really awful life

    • Soriano~40~40

      One can argue. he sabotaged himself , but thats another story

  • Jake K.

    The rough thing about a game like this is that we know Brazil can bring on Pato, Danny Alves, etc. We can bring on…Conor Casey.

    • Drew

      is beasley on the trip?

      • Jake K.

        Yeah, but he’s been on the bench after being thoroughly abused in the US’s first two games (not coincidentally our two losses).

  • Jake K.

    Yeah, that was a goal.

    • Drew

      lol, it really wasn’t even close with that replay.. Luck is on our side maybe.

  • http://. me

    goal….sure….. fuck you assistant

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    STOP GIVING IT TO BRAZIL

  • http://. me

    the goal is time question

    • Drew

      the bird is word speculation

  • Drew

    Am I the only one that wants us to trade for Milledge?

    • pat

      Yes. Dude couldn’t hack it in DC. No fanks. Unless its for like george kontos or something.

      • Drew

        Leave him in the minors for the rest of the year. He’s still got serious potential.
        He’s been mishandled thus far throughout his career IMO.
        Also, they want to get rid of him.

        • Zach

          how has he been mishandled?

          • Drew

            The Mets kind of rushed him up.
            http://www.baseball-reference......lled001las
            I think so anyway.

            • Zach

              his bat’s not the problem. i think he had a good season for his first full year in the bigs, he just sucks in center and right

              • Drew

                True, I think it would be a cool little experiment. I mean who’s in his way down in Scranton… Shelley, J-rod, a little E-Dunc. This guy has more potential than all of em.

        • pat

          dude does have tantalizing upside but the mental makeup issues will probably keep him from reaching them.

    • ArodMVP217 FTW!

      yea, you should want this guy

      http://blog.blueclaws.com/wp-c.....-brown.jpg

      +package for Wang

    • Zach

      well he’s injured right now
      his second club(worst in baseball) is about to give up on him
      he’s horrible in CF

      • Drew

        Maybe because he’s not a CFer…

        • Zach

          ok i thought you wanted him to solve CF or something. he should be in LF, but the sample size is too small to say he’ll be atleast average there.
          i just dont see the yankees going after him

          • Drew

            Yeah true. Nah I’m not even expecting him to see the bigs this year. He’s still only 24. For a cheap price, I’d take a shot at him.

  • Drew

    this is getting dicey

    • pat

      diced

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I think I’m sweating worse than some of the players right now

  • http://. me

    2- 2
    i said…..

  • Drew

    Kaka>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spector

  • Jake K.

    Son of a bitch!

    I wish we had someone other than Sacha to bring on. Altidore wasn’t doing anything, but we need someone else who can score goals now.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I just got destroyed behind home plate. Foul balls off my jaw (again), chest, and arm. I’m not a big fan of 10 year olds right now.

    • Drew

      If you would call a decent strike zone the kids wouldn’t be fouling em off.

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    I don’t think we win PK’s..

    better get started…

  • http://. me

    fuck you USA
    Brazil 3 a 2

    • Jake K.

      Go troll somewhere else.

    • pat

      hahaha mama los huevos

  • Jake K.

    The US won the first half. Brazil has WON!!! the second half.

  • Drew

    We have been completely flat footed this whole fucking half.

    • pat

      exactly, we blew our load the first half.

  • Drew

    should have about 4 minutes of stoppage time

  • pat

    well that was fun, back to being an afterthought. GO YANKS

  • Yanke1313

    Andrew Miller is starting to blossom.

  • TheLastClown

    Mike Gonzalez…the shining example that Parkinson’s Disease can be a MLB asset.

  • UWS

    The Braves are trying to give this game away, aren’t they?

  • e mills

    Kelly Bleeping Johnson

  • Drew

    Thank you atlanta.
    Wang, it’s your time to shine!

    • mick

      It looks like Penny is going to need some comfort food…Gammons should purchase a 25inch pizza for the “best” number 3 pitcher in the universe!

  • Drew

    Wow, on MLB network, 2001 HR Derby.
    Troy Glaus, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, Giambino, Alex, Luis Gonzalez.
    What do all of these players have in common? Aysh…

    • DreDog

      I was just following Jose Canseco’s career and the teams he was on and what year. It’s kind of scary to see how many player had much better years after having him on his team.

      Also, Barry Bonds had a sick career even before the game of shadows.

      • Soriano~40~40

        5 tool players are where it’s at

  • K.B.D.

    PeteAbe says he heard JB Cox quit baseball to which I say, WTF?

    • mick

      He quit a long time ago…just still wearing the uniform.

    • Jake K.

      Yeah, if true it’s a huge bummer. I thought he would be in the Bronx by now.

  • mick

    RAB has the hottest advertizers in the universe..EVONY,this Angelica girl etc..

    • Drew

      leroy smith too

      • mick

        agreed

  • Billy

    i need something to do to kill 2 hours