Sublett & Fryer power Tampa to win

Saturday Night Open Thread
Pettitte, offense come up empty in loss

Triple-A Scranton (7-6 win over Gwinnett)
Kevin Russo, Eric Duncan & Doug Bernier: all 0 for 4 – Russo drew a walk, scored a run & K’ed … E-Dunc drove in a run & K’ed
Austin Jackson & Cody Ransom: both 1 for 5, 1 R – Ajax doubled & K’ed … Ransom drove in a run & K’ed twice
Shelley Duncan: 0 for 2, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K – feared
Juan Miranda: 3 for 3, 1 R, 2 RBI, 1 E (missed catch)
Justin Leone:  1 for 3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
Kevin Cash: 0 for 3, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K
Casey Fossum: 3 IP, 5 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 1 WP, 3-3 GB/FB – 49 of 83 pitches were strikes (59%)
Romulo Sanchez: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 3-2 GB/FB – 20 of 42 pitches were strikes (47.6%)
Zach Kroenke: 2.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2-5 GB/FB – 22 of 35 pitches were strikes (62.9%)
Mark Melancon: 1.1 IP, zeroes, 2 K, 1-1 GB/FB – 10 of 16 pitches were strikes (62.5%) … Mr. Efficiency

Double-A Trenton
Game 1
(4-0 loss to Binghamton in 7 innings) makeup of an April 11th rain out
Reegie Corona, Noah Hall & Chris Malec: all 0 for 3 – Corona K’ed twice, Malec once
Eduardo Nunez, Jesus Montero & Richie Robnett: all 1 for 3 – Nunez stole a base … Robnett was just signed to a minor league deal, he was drafted by the A’s, traded to the Cubs this offseason for Mike Wuertz & then released
Kevin Smith, Marcos Vechionacci & Justin Snyder: all 0 for 2 – Smith & Vech each K’ed once
Brian Bruney: 1 IP, zeroes, 1-2 GB/FB – threw 12 strikes
Ryan Pope: 4.2 IP, 9 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 6-7 GB/FB
JB Cox: 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, 1 WP, 0-3 GB/FB – oh yeah, he’s been demoted
Game 2 (5-1 win over Binghamton in 7 innings)
Reegie Corona, Eduardo Nunez & Kevin Smith: all 1 for 2, 1 BB – Corona doubled … Nunez hit a solo jack … Smith doubled, scored a run & K’ed
Noah Hall, Chris Malec & Edwar Gonzalez: all 0 for 3 – Malec K’ed once, Edwar twice
Kyle Anson: 0 for 2, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 1 E (throwing)
Marcos Vechionacci: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 1 E (throwing) – two jacks in his last five games after hitting just two in his previous 52 contests
Josh Schmidt: 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, 2-2 GB/FB
Kevin Whelan: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 1-1 GB/FB – 34 K in 31.2 IP
Wilkins Arias: 0.1 IP, zeroes, 1-0 GB/FB
Kanekoa Texeira: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 4-1 GB/FB

High-A Tampa (8-3 win over St. Lucie)
Austin Krum: 1 for 4, 2 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Eric Fryer: 2 for 5, 2 R, 2 2B, 1 K
Austin Romine & Brian Baisley: both 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB – Romine drove in a run … Baisley doubled & K’ed
Damon Sublett: 3 for 5, 1 R, 2 2B, 1 RBI – 16 for his last 35 (.457)
Brandon Laird: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 3 RBI, 1 K
Mitch Hilligoss: 0 for 4, 1 RBI, 1 K
DJ Mitchell: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 3 K, 2 WP, 2 HB, 11-1 GB/FB – love the GB/FB ratio, but control was an issue tonight … one of the walks was intentional
Craig Heyer: 3 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 4-4 GB/FB
Grant Duff: 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-0 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (14-6 beatdown of Rome)
Jose Pirela: 3 for 6, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 K – 8 for his last 15 (.533)
Ray Kruml: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 BB, 2 K
David Adams: 4 for 5, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K – 14 for his last 25 (.560)
Dan Brewer: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 2 BB
Corban Joseph: 1 for 6, 1 R, 1 3B, 3 RBI
Melky Mesa: 1 for 5, 2 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 E (fielding) – threw a runner out at third from RF … league leading 13th homer
Taylor Grote: 3 for 5, 2 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 SB, 1 CS
Mitch Abeita: 3 for 5, 3 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
Brett Marshall: 5 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HB, 5-5 GB/FB – most ER allowed in a start since April 24th
Dan Kapala: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 5-1 GB/FB
Jon Ortiz: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 1-1 GB/FB

Saturday Night Open Thread
Pettitte, offense come up empty in loss
  • Mike D.

    The farm continues to look good. Pirela and Montero continue to hit. Laird and Adams are finally coming along. And lastly, the Yankees might actually sign Sano, the best news today.

  • mike jones

    Any reason why Shelley Duncan isn’t getting called up? He’s absolutely raking in AAA and is definitely better than Berroa

    • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

      He can’t play 2B, SS or third, and he can’t hit breaking balls. When he’s come to the Majors, he’s been exposed.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

    Forgive me if this was asked before, but I don’t remember seeing it. If the Yankees were to sign Sano, where would he rank on the top 10 prospects list? Too early/impossible to say?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t think I’d have him in my top ten, I usually wait until they come to the U.S. first.

    • Reggie C.

      Mike A. has made it clear in previous chats that he wouldn’t rank Sano in the top 10. Dominican signings are intriguing, but they’re usually at least a full season away from playing STATE-side. That said, imo, I would put Sano in the top 10. Not top 5, but considering that Sano could be the 2nd guy from the Dominican to get a $4MM signing.

      50/50 is alot better than our chances were last week. I’d be surprised to see the Pirates go all out and offer $4MM, so i think we’ve got a legit shot.

      • Mike bk

        the way i look at it is even if it takes 2 years before they get to the states and in say low A ball it is just like them being an 18 yr old high school draft pick.

    • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

      Ok, thanks for the replies. I missed the last two chats, so I appreciate the explanation.

      Jesus Montero was an international free agent, correct? How long did he play before coming to the States?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He was in the U.S. within a year. Signed in July, was in Extended Spring Training the next year.

  • Mark

    Would Kroenke get a shot over Edwar and Alby right now, or are those guys still ahead of him on the pecking order?

    • K.B.D.

      Kroenke = very, very lucky. Look at his peripherals and FIP.

  • Mike bk

    any chance the yanks really go nuts in the IFA market and go after Sano, Sanchez and Mateo? Talk about going from lacking position players with upside to while them being very young adding probably a C, 3B (Sano) and OF to the system

    • Mike bk

      also i heard Noel Arguellez the cuban LHP that has been compared to Liriano was named a FA today and the yanks were in on him, but we all know that the white sox love the cuban prospects.

  • Mike

    Mark Melancon: 1.1 IP, zeroes, 2 K, 1-1 GB/FB – 10 of 16 pitches were strikes (62.5%) … Mr. Efficiency

    Can we please get him back on the roster? I’d rather have Melancon pitch in the big for us then Tomko. Also, I’d rather see Melancon pitch for us than some off the guys that the yanks are rumored to be interested in like qualls, street or valverde. All of those guys are over rated closers.

  • CB

    Problem with the big league pen is that it’s going to take several arms to fix it. One trade alone won’t be enough, even if it’s for a guy like street.

    Melancon getting called back up is clearly one. Any chance they try Kontos in the pen to see if they catch lightning in a bottle? Same for Mike Dunn? Promote him to AAA and see how he does? He’s on the 40 man and it doesn’t look like Marte’s coming back any time soon.

    Trade market is only going to help the pen so much. The answers are going to need to be internal.

    • Dorian

      I disagree. I think the answers are within the organization and are just waiting for an opportunity. David Robertson has been dominant but can’t get high leverage innings. Mark Melancon struggled in two games and got sent down. I don’t think that his struggles were a true representation of the kind of pitcher that Mark is.

      That isn’t even discussing Brian Bruney.

  • http://rbiradio.blogspot.com/ Joey H.

    Can Kanekoa Texeira be used in the pen?

    • CB

      That’s was my point. Trades are only going to help so much. The answers are going to need to come internally.

      I think Robertson’s going to have to stick. But that leaves them with Mo, Coke, Aceves and Robertson and question marks. A trade can fill one role.

      But they could need up to 3 arms (more with injuries). Melancon’s one. Then who? That’s what I was getting at. Those other arms have to come internally and you have to acknowledge that Melancon and Robertson might not hack it this year. I don’t think they can count on Bruney or Marte. They need to experiment with internal options.

      • CB

        Sorry posted in the wrong spot. Meant to respond to the comment in the sub thread above.

      • ArodMVP217 FTW!

        does anyone else think dRob’s frame can support some more muscle; velo?

  • Reggie C.

    Signed July 2, 2006 , Jose Pirela spent ’07 in the DSL and then the following year he played in the GCL. So it took Pirela two seasons before the org. considered him mature enough to handle the Class A ball. Pirela’s definitely holding his own and is worth watching.

    • Dorian

      Can he be anything special?

      • steve

        as long as he continues to walk at a decent clip. 13 in 23 games is pretty good.

  • josh

    would love to see melancon and robertson used way more in some big situations. i feel lost as to what the organization is doing with melancon. i know he k’s a lot but how much worse would a-jax be right now than gardner?

    • Brandon

      Gardner isnt bad. He is actually pretty good. He just needs to hit consistently. A-Jax needs a full season in Scranton, IMO, before the Yankees even think about calling him up. Oh and I know that I am probably the only person that feels this way, but I dont think A-Jax will be a great player like he is thought to become. I think he’ll be good, but not great. In my opinion, he is the 3rd best prospect in the organization, where most people have him at one or two. My top 3 prospects in the organization are:

      1. Jesus Montero
      2. Zach McAllister
      3. Austin Jackson

      • josh

        i dont hate gardner but i really dont like him in the field. his arm is awful. i understand ajax is a great fielder, no? if he were a more agressive base stealer i would have an easier time dealing with his piss poor defense

        • Charlie

          he’s had a couple bad plays, but for the most part i wouldn’t call gardner’s defense piss poor. I’m not a big Gardner fan, though, because I don’t really see how he fits into this organization long-term. Next year we should have an outfield crew of Ajax, Swisher, Melky and some free agent/damon/nady if he can throw, so is Gardner going to be the 5th outfielder? I just don’t see it.

          • josh

            piss poor might be a bit strong but i just dont see him as an every day cf

          • dane bramage

            Swisher….please God no,get rid of him!Bay,Crawford and or Holliday should flank Ajax next year.

      • Bill

        jackson should be ahead of mcallister and he should be a september call up. but you’re entitled to ur opinion

  • Brandon

    Joey H-Kanekoa Teixeira is way too inconsistent. When he gives up a run in an outing, its not just 1 run. Its usually 2 or 3 runs. He needs to learn how to limit the damage. Im not even sure if he will make the big league roster with how he is doing in Trenton.

    How old is Pirela? And what do you think of him in terms of if he can be a big leaguer at some point in his career. He is doing pretty good for Charleston.

    Even though he didnt pitch today, why the hell has Venditte not been promoted to Tampa yet? He is more than dominating Low-A ball. I wish the Yankees promote him already. He is doing well enough to warrant a promotion to Tampa. If and when he gets promoted and if he dominates High-A ball, do you think he will be promoted to Double-A Trenton by the end of the year? I know that its pretty far off, but I think he can be a good reliever one day for the Yankees. He uses both arms, and has 5 total pitches. Oh and he dominated the New York-Penn League last season, and is making hitters look worse than silly this season.

    • Charlie

      Pirela is only 19, and i agree that Venditte should be promoted.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Mike A, Jose Pirela seems to be breaking out. What do you think of him? Think he could be our future SS?

    • Charlie

      i’m not Mike A, but i sure hope so

      • AndrewYF

        Andy Cannizaro – future SS?
        Marcos Vechionacci – future SS?
        Mitch Hilligoss – future SS?
        Carmen Angelini – future SS?
        Garisson Lassitter – future SS?
        Eduardo Nunez or Ramiro Pena – future SS?

        The torch has now been passed to Jose Pierla.

        • steve

          to be fair, pirela is the only one of them to hit in full season ball (yes small sample size)

        • Bill

          did anyone really think andy cannizaro was the future ss?

        • Matt L

          Andy Cannizaro – future SS? No one ever truly saw him as the future at SS.
          Marcos Vechionacci – future SS? More of a 3B than SS.
          Mitch Hilligoss – future SS? Never more than a possible utility guy.
          Eduardo Nunez or Ramiro Pena – future SS? No hit guys who were hyped up this spring, but never true elite prospects.
          Carmen Angelini and Garisson Lassitter- future SS? These two are legitimate prospects who may eventually be the future at SS.

  • Charlie

    Signing Sano would be awesome, clearly a need there. But it also said on a mlb trade rumors article that the yankees would prefer C gary sanchez for IFA. Are you friggin kidding me? A catcher? That would be awful. If we didn’t have enough young catchers before the draft, we certainly do now. Get Sano, and for God’s sake, there is no reason for another catcher at this point.

    • Brandon

      I agree. We are more than stacked behind the plate if the system.

    • CB

      They’ve evidently evaluated Sanchez as the guy with the best bat in the entire international signing market. If they think his bat could be special it doesn’t matter what position he plays.

    • V

      :facepalm:

      Get the bats, forget the positions. They’re SIXTEEN YEARS OLD. Odds are that neither one makes the majors, ever. Odds are, that if both make the majors, it won’t be at their current position.

      The Yankees have ONE CATCHING PROSPECT ABOVE A BALL, and odds of him staying at Catcher are less than 50%.

      ‘Worst’ case scenario, Montero, Romine, Higashioka, JR Murphy, and Sanchez are all major league quality catchers in 2013.

      Guess what you do in that situation? YOU TRADE THEM for your big league needs.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Bingo.

        Montero should be in the bigs by the time Sancvhez would ever see A-Ball. And I hate to break this to some of you, but all of these catchers.. . .check that, MOST of these catchers will never be big league players of any significance.

        • V

          +1.

          Prospects are neat to follow, but rarely do they succeed. Particularly the A-ball (and lower) guys.

        • Accent Shallow

          Or they’ll be moved to another position.

          Paul Konerko and Carlos Delgado were signed as catchers, look how that turned out. Just because someone’s a catcher at 16, doesn’t mean they’ll play that position in the big leagues. 1B, 3B and corner OF are all options.

      • Bill

        great points

  • Charlie

    Anyone know how Pirela is defensively?

  • IE

    You never pass on talent just because you already have it in the system. That’s never a good idea.

  • BigBlueAL

    So when will Ransom be back up and Berroa gone????

    • Charlie

      Never. Berroa is without a doubt the best and most useful yankee on the roster.

      • Bill

        i never want ransom back. i would rather see nunez, but he still has to get to aaa

  • V

    I do have to wonder… this Sano information came shortly after the draft. I wonder if the Yankees moved some draft budget over to IFA since none of the big time signability pitchers fell.

    Not having to fork over $4M-5M to Purke helped the rest of the draft, and if they’re projected draft expenses fell, it’d be need if they used the surplus in the IFA arena.

    They’ve also been linked to several Cuban defectors.

    • Dorian

      IFA and Draft Budget are completely seperate, neither affects the other.

      • CB

        Last year the yankees had every intention of signing Cole. They must have roughly budgeted $4-5M to sign him. And then they didn’t.

        What happens to that money? It doesn’t just disappear? Either they role it over into the line item for this year’s amateur draft, save it, or reallocate it into their general operating budget.

        Budgets generally are not hard wired that way unless it’s the government or an enormous publicly traded corporation.

        • V

          Ditto Ynoa.

          Cole and Ynoa were two signings they had budgeted that they didn’t end up paying for.

          • CB

            Good point. Between Cole and Ynoa alone that had to be 9-10M in budgeting. Even if the team didn’t have a hard draft budget there is no way they’ve allocated that much money without a sense of the cash flow issues alone.

            Cashman has direct control over the budget. Unless ownership is taking back unallocated planned budget expenditures that money likely goes back to Cash to reallocate as he sees fit.

            It’s possible that given their big free agent spending this winter there will be less to spend on amateur talent.

            But the money is liklely more fluid than the walls between sections of the organization suggest.

      • V

        So they say.

        I don’t believe it.

    • CB

      Very well could be. I know the line items and budgets for amateur domestic and international signing are separate but that’s not written in stone. Ultimately Cashman can orchestrate the individual expenditures within the global budget as he sees fit.

      The Sano thing I impossible to tease out. There seems to be so much hype about him and his agent is ridiculous but getting attention for his client. Were the yankees ever really out of it? Are they in it now? Hard to know as it always is with the international kids.

      It does seem like the guy they want the most is Sanchez. They seem to think more highly of his bat than Sano’s.

    • Reggie C.

      Well … a knock in this draft was the lack of impact bats at both the college and HS levels. Arms galore. Bats? Not so much. No one in our draft is going to get more money than Slade Heathcott, and even then Heathcott isn’t likely to break the $2MM mark.

      From the press that Sano has been generating, it appears as if he’s the premier International FA of the class. No other pitcher or hitter has been getting Sano-level interest. If it takes $3MM-$4MM to land front-line talent, then the Yanks gotta do it. Furthermore, as to the age thing … there’s been increased scrutiny on Dominican players, and Sano has all his papers together. The dude is a legit 16.

      • Bill

        i think the yanks are gonna go nutts with the ifas

      • Bill

        the guy is younger than me by like 7 months

  • josh

    who did the yankees sign last year and how are they doing so far. did they get a kid named sosa?

    • steve

      I think that was 2 years ago. Eduardo Sosa. He’ll be in shortseason ball soon.

      • josh

        wasnt he supposed to be really good?

        • josh

          or should i say isnt he supposed to be really good?

    • Bill

      jackson valera, ramon flores, anderson felix, and yeicock calderon and maybe someone else. the yanks got the smaller guys instead of one big guy. the guy in that group doing the best is flores, but calderon has done good in limited AB’s

      • Reggie C.

        Interesting catch. This is the first time this year i read these names. If i remember correctly, no one landed a $1 MM signing bonus. Not saying that’s a knock against the class, but none of these guys appear to be heading state-side this season. Which is fine …. but Sano appears to be the type of talent that could be playing short-season ball in 2010.

      • josh

        thanks

  • josh

    whats the latest on higashoika? how good a defensive catcher is romine at this point, and how does he project?

    • Bill

      romine has a great ++ arm but so far is inconsistent behind the plate. he also projects to hit for decent to plus power

  • Bill

    why not sign sanchez and sano? it wont happen but i would if i had yankee money

    • Reggie C.

      Sanchez is probably getting somewhere b/w 2-3 million. if Sano can sign for under $4 million … maybe there’s a shot at both. However, the org simply isn’t going to drop their long-known wooing of Sanchez today to free up bucks to land Sano. And they shouldn’t as they could miss out on both players.

      All in all , its unlikely any team dishes out $5-6 million for TWO players on July 2, 2009. hasn’t happened before.

    • V

      As I said at mlbtraderumors:

      “The reason the Yankees don’t just give guys what they want is pretty simple.

      You offer $3M to a guy, he says $5M, you give him $5M.

      Then, the guy that’s worth $1.5M wants $3M.

      Then, the guy that’s worth $0.5M wants $1.2M.

      Then, the guy that’s worth $100k wants $400k.

      Etc., etc., etc. It’s not about one signing, but about all of them together (this year and the next ten, etc.).

      Same reason who see the below slot/slot/barely over slot deals signed first in the draft. You don’t want to give a guy $2M more than slot and then have everyone else try to talk you up.”

      It’s also the reason the Yankees walked away from Ynoa. They had a verbal deal with him, a handshake agreement, his handlers got a better offer from the A’s and came back to the Yankees for more $. Then, what if you match that offer, they go back to the A’s, get them to up their offer, etc.

      It’s a game you don’t want to get in. Evaluate the player, determine your offer, make it, walk away if you get beat.

  • Manimal

    Is Kroenke for real? His stats are decent its just that this year he is really breaking out with a 1.01 ERA in 25 Innings.

    • Manimal

      1.08*

    • K.B.D.

      Kroenke is not for real. 4.16 FIP, 94.4% strand rate, 1.13 K/BB. K/9 is down about 3 from last year. He’s been extremely lucky.

  • bebop

    where was Montero yesterday?