I love that every HR by Papi is newsworthy. How sad sports repoting has become. A past his prime former steroid user gets a HR and suddenly it is breaking news.
Why not? Because “our guys” who have done it have been more publicized? Please. after 1998 until MLB came under serious media scrutiny, by all accounts it was equally prevalent in all 30 clubhouses. But since everyone loves to hate the Yankees, and the fact that the NY sports media is, well, the NY sports media, the Yanks have more names out in the open. We have as much right as anyone else to talk about other teams…
(Not to even get into the argument that our money is just as good as any other teams’ fans’, and the game is first and foremost a business.)
Probably, if it stays this way. But I’d love to see Hughes and Mo get a day off. I hope the Yankees score 3 or 4 more runs and we can get D-Rob to close it out.
i love the story when shields was going through a funk 2 years ago, during batting practice or something he turns around on the mound and throws a ball over the CF wall
He gave up 2 hr’s that may have been stadium jobs, tough to say. That said, he really left those pitches up and out over the plate. He seemed to be cruising, then it’s 8 runs.
Too be blunt, it escalated quickly.
What I don’t understand about the Joba to the bullpen people is why they want Hughes to replace Joba in the rotation. Hughes’ numbers as a starter were worse than Joba’s and Hughes is pitching very well in the bullpen. It’s a very irrational argument no matter how you look at it.
Its also an argument thats not going away, no matter how many times people here ridicule it, no matter how hard they try to blast such posters off RAB. So why waste so much energy? Am I the only one who just scrolls past the dumb comments without letting them bother me?
I think the Joba to the bullpen argument has been rekindled because of Hughes’ role in the bullpen. He was effective as a starter, and the organization still views him as a starter down the line. Obviously, a good SP is likely going to be an effective RP. Now that Wang has gone down and it doesn’t look like Hughes is going to be the replacement, many people, including myself (and I’ve never been a b-jobber), are wondering why this logic is being used for Hughes and not Joba. I really don’t understand it. At this point, if doing so wouldn’t harm either’s future, I think reversing their roles would provide the Yanks with a stronger rotation AND bullpen.
But Hughes was worse than Joba as a starter! It doesn’t make any sense. I think both should be starting. Are you Joba to the bullpen people capable of remembering what happened past last week?
Joba >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hughees. At least thats the impression I’m starting to get around here. Even the mere suggestion of Joba to the pen, for any reason, for any stretch of time, sets people off, yet, Hughes is there NOW, and nowhere near the amount of venom. If their roles actually were reversed, I think this blog would actually catch fire.
I just don’t (haven’t) see (seen) it from Joba (yet). Hughes’ superior control says to me that he will be more successful as a starter than will Joba. Also, his stuff translates better to starting than does Joba’s.
Depends. Did you see Joba start in 2008? Christ. His stuff was so electric, even when he had mediocre starts. It was like nothing I’d seen from anyone in a Yankee uniform in years.
Now, if Joba long-term is going to be more like 2009 Joba stuff-wise, then Hughes may be a more successful starter long-term. Even then, it’s very close.
Doesn’t Chamberlain have an innings limit this season? As well as Hughes. Seems to me, reversing rolls when Chamberlain gets close to his limit, August sometime and having Hughes stretched out in the minors at some point might not be a bad idea.
I’m not saying this is a permanent move but a way to utilize each pitcher over the duration of the season. This has to be something brought up earlier.
can someone tell the guy that the ball spins with a dot when its a slider? jeez cmon cody. youre a major leaguer and taking little league swings at crappy breaking pitches.
They wear the camo uni’s on Sunday for Military Appreciation Day or whatever it’s called. All the military people on leave get in for like, $1 or something ridiculous. It makes Fleet Week look like a bag of green army men.
This would be his third game in a row, correct? For that matter, is there anyone left in the pen that WOUDLNT have pitched 3 days in a row if they came in for the 9th?
Aceves just got through the 8th and 9th in a close game. But we should send Joba to the bullpen because he’s the only one who can pitch that 8th and become the heir apparent to Mo.
The Gangster is quickly becoming the most dependable and my favorite member of the pitching staff. Nothing flashy, nothing hyped, just strikes and a ton of movement. He doesn’t nibble, doesn’t get nervous and doesn’t get into trouble with walks. You can literally see his composure as he stands on the mound and just serves up strikes. Whoever is our Mexican scout should get a huge bonus right now.
Interesting stuff from Waldman after the game. Eiland said that he was going to have some long animated talks with Joba about pace, among other things. Eiland felt that Joba was way too slow between pitches.
Joba told Suzyn that he felt the best he felt all year, made good pitches, and that the Jays lineup just hit all his mistakes.
Easy to forget how difficult it is to pitch in the majors – even if you have Joba’s talent (or Hughes’)
Wasn’t it Posada who wanted him to pick up the pace and Jorge was the one who got unfairly labeled as “abrasive and hard to work with?” Maybe Joba should listen to the guy who’s been around for more than a decade.
i was yellin at the tv watching the game, at times joba is ridiclously slow between pitches, he has to get the ball, get the sign, an throw the fuckin ball, he needs to trust his stuff more
I blame Matsui not hitting the ball hard enough so Posada could score.
nono, he hit the ball too hard. should’ve hit it softer.
blame posada for being a catcher and not being able to run a little faster at age 38.
dfa them both, those washups!
True true, if Cervelli and Posada were there this game would have been 20-0 us! Matsui/Kennedy/Cano for Ian Kinsler!!
Ah, the adventures of Posada running the bases.
That said, some game today from him.
That Matsui looks old and finished. All he does is hit grounders to second. Let’s DFA him and put Cervelli at catcher.
*snaps the limb*
I hope youre wrong. Unless it ends 14-8, then it’s ok.
posada, really?
lol
I blame Raul Chavez Joba getting hit around. that and not calling a slider on 0-2 first AB
Did Kay just say “that was so phony … it turned me on” coming back early from the break???
i just cracked up loudly when i heard that
“That was so phony, it turned me on”
Michael Kay
In reference to what!??!
i have no idea
the game came back from commercial break, and that’s the first thing i heard from his mouth
i don’t think he knew the game was back from break
could we be watching the longest 9 inning game ever?
I wonder if Johan ever wishes he were with us. Or even still in Minnesota.
or in the 8th inning
With virtually half of the Mets being Hispanic? Probably not.
Their lineup is just so injury ravaged right now. They would make Adam Eaton look good right now. It’s Wright, Sheff, and a bunch of garbage.
ellsbury just walked with bases load, 5-4
shiite
Great command, Mark Lowe. *rolls eyes*
I love that every HR by Papi is newsworthy. How sad sports repoting has become. A past his prime former steroid user gets a HR and suddenly it is breaking news.
I love how every fly ball he hits is newsworthy.
considering he was hitting .200 and less HRs then Gardner, it is newsworthy.
and Yankee fans shouldnt be talking about other teams and steroids
Why not? Because “our guys” who have done it have been more publicized? Please. after 1998 until MLB came under serious media scrutiny, by all accounts it was equally prevalent in all 30 clubhouses. But since everyone loves to hate the Yankees, and the fact that the NY sports media is, well, the NY sports media, the Yanks have more names out in the open. We have as much right as anyone else to talk about other teams…
(Not to even get into the argument that our money is just as good as any other teams’ fans’, and the game is first and foremost a business.)
no because there’s proof that “our guys” have done it, not just speculation
that and joba needs to be a RP.
oh wait didn’t you…
So, what’s the plan? Aceves for 2, Hughes and Mo?
Probably, if it stays this way. But I’d love to see Hughes and Mo get a day off. I hope the Yankees score 3 or 4 more runs and we can get D-Rob to close it out.
We gotta do something about Ace’s number. WTF is 91!
dennis rodman
DFA Aceves for having a number too big.
7-4 boston
I’m starting to think that Al Aceves is one of those rubber armed guys that could pitch multiple innings every day and not show any ill effects.
scot shields lite?
i love the story when shields was going through a funk 2 years ago, during batting practice or something he turns around on the mound and throws a ball over the CF wall
/Righetti’d
I just walked in and saw Joba’s line. Not all the runs were earned. How bad was he?
Decent until his last inning which he just imploded.
not good, couldn’t spot the heater.
eh i thought it was all those hanging sliders he left up.
He only walked one hitter. Did he just serve up meatballs?
all flyball outs except one
dang.
He gave up 2 hr’s that may have been stadium jobs, tough to say. That said, he really left those pitches up and out over the plate. He seemed to be cruising, then it’s 8 runs.
Too be blunt, it escalated quickly.
Is it me or does he seem to have a problem taking direction from his catcher?
One away? I guess that was a force of habit.
I heart Ace
ace is tight
What I don’t understand about the Joba to the bullpen people is why they want Hughes to replace Joba in the rotation. Hughes’ numbers as a starter were worse than Joba’s and Hughes is pitching very well in the bullpen. It’s a very irrational argument no matter how you look at it.
don’t use facts, bjobbers don’t like facts
bjobber sounds like something cone would say
Its also an argument thats not going away, no matter how many times people here ridicule it, no matter how hard they try to blast such posters off RAB. So why waste so much energy? Am I the only one who just scrolls past the dumb comments without letting them bother me?
Meh, fuck the Sox, just saw the scoreboard.
I would not want to be the catcher when Wakefield gets into the ASG.
Wakefield got into the ASG? Really? Oh, he has 10 wins. Now it all makes sense.
11th inning, 7 passed balls will cost us home field advantage
Let’s go Robi, no one on base
I think the Joba to the bullpen argument has been rekindled because of Hughes’ role in the bullpen. He was effective as a starter, and the organization still views him as a starter down the line. Obviously, a good SP is likely going to be an effective RP. Now that Wang has gone down and it doesn’t look like Hughes is going to be the replacement, many people, including myself (and I’ve never been a b-jobber), are wondering why this logic is being used for Hughes and not Joba. I really don’t understand it. At this point, if doing so wouldn’t harm either’s future, I think reversing their roles would provide the Yanks with a stronger rotation AND bullpen.
But Hughes was worse than Joba as a starter! It doesn’t make any sense. I think both should be starting. Are you Joba to the bullpen people capable of remembering what happened past last week?
Joba >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hughees. At least thats the impression I’m starting to get around here. Even the mere suggestion of Joba to the pen, for any reason, for any stretch of time, sets people off, yet, Hughes is there NOW, and nowhere near the amount of venom. If their roles actually were reversed, I think this blog would actually catch fire.
Oh, I’m not happy at all about Hughes in the bullpen, and I’m especially not happy they’re not giving Wang’s rotation spot now.
What more do they need? It’s the perfect situation.
I was under the impression that they weren’t giving him the spot before ASG break.
Are they really not considering him following the break?
It doesn’t sound like it. But even so, what’s the point of waiting?
I just don’t (haven’t) see (seen) it from Joba (yet). Hughes’ superior control says to me that he will be more successful as a starter than will Joba. Also, his stuff translates better to starting than does Joba’s.
Depends. Did you see Joba start in 2008? Christ. His stuff was so electric, even when he had mediocre starts. It was like nothing I’d seen from anyone in a Yankee uniform in years.
Now, if Joba long-term is going to be more like 2009 Joba stuff-wise, then Hughes may be a more successful starter long-term. Even then, it’s very close.
Doesn’t Chamberlain have an innings limit this season? As well as Hughes. Seems to me, reversing rolls when Chamberlain gets close to his limit, August sometime and having Hughes stretched out in the minors at some point might not be a bad idea.
I’m not saying this is a permanent move but a way to utilize each pitcher over the duration of the season. This has to be something brought up earlier.
So, can we assume with Aceves pitching, that he won’t be taking Wang’s spot in the rotation?
over/under game length 5 hours.
lol another slider, another K. ransom is such garbage.
there is a reason why the lastros.. er astros cut him.
If they dont want you, you must suck
lol and they kept latroy hawkins. thats how much cody sucks
hahaha i know, right?
make fun of hawkins if you want, but hes been great since he got to houston
aceves has been money
mexican league greatness
BUT FERNANDO NIEVE!!!!!!!!!!
can someone tell the guy that the ball spins with a dot when its a slider? jeez cmon cody. youre a major leaguer and taking little league swings at crappy breaking pitches.
really its that easy? why are you here then?
i was DFAed for not being able to hit crappy sliders!
Why is Ransom angry? The fans should be the angry ones.
He’s allowed to be angry.
what this guy said
Is Aceves this season better or worse than JP Howell last season?
oops, wrong place…sorry bout that
nice job by swish and the pat on the back
Man, the Tigers should have sent Justin Verlander to the pen last year when his stuff wasn’t there, and he was such an ineffective starter.
But wait! He’s pitching to a 3.54 ERA this year, with a K/9 over 10!
Those silly young starters and their inconsistencies.
that transfers to 0.54 K/9 over 20 in the 8th inning
I suppose he could go another now
ACE!
I hope Girardi doesn’t try to get cute and just leaves Aceves in there for the 8th.
CC to teh eighth!!11!
Yay to sanity!
great job ace
you are da man!
the padres have combined camo tops with red caps to create the ugliest unis in history
They wear the camo uni’s on Sunday for Military Appreciation Day or whatever it’s called. All the military people on leave get in for like, $1 or something ridiculous. It makes Fleet Week look like a bag of green army men.
The thought of that makes my eyes bleed.
another terrible joke by kay
So, who pitches the 8th?
Looks like Aceves will stay in.
Yeah, but last time he stayed for the third inning, he didnt look good.
Don`t be surprised if their trying to stretch ace out to possibly be in the rotation.
Porcello gave up six runs in four innings today!
DFA him, Detroit!
No no no, don’t DFA him. To the 8th!
to the 11th!!!111!!JUAN!
did pablo sandoval make the ASG?
No, and neither did Kemp. They’re both on the Final Ballot.
vote for pablo!
nope
well that was sketchy.
League doesn’t look badass enough
hip hip!!
Double play.
that actually rhymes!
Hip Hip Double Play!…
tex with the loud expletive!
GIDP? Put Cervelli in, Posada’s toast!
activate Molina. promote montero! something!! 4-5 and a GIDP?! has never hit for 5 hits in a game. ridiculous!!!!
Even at 4-4, Jorge couldn’t resist the temptation of an inning-ending DP. And please don’t overreact to this “criticism.”
who put that Cano jersey on Posada
Who put the Posada jersey on Cano?
wouldn’t it make more sense if it was the other way around – cano disguised as posada?
yea yea you get my drift!
has aceves ever done well in the 3rd inning of an outing?
not harping, just wondering
Today.
not counting starts, in may of this year. two good 3 inning outings.
Yes, today.
Just browsing the game logs, looks like he has. and of course, there’s today
today was awesome
I am so sick of that damn whistle.
Aceves for the Gold Glove!
Anyone know how many relievers have ever won a gold glove?
All I could find is Bobby Shantz. So basically no reliever has won the gold glove in the last forty years.
Bobby Shantz
guess we know who’s getting the belt if the score remains the same or they win
It could be Posada or Aceves.
Fuck it, let Mo rest and run Aceves back out there. Mo’s been overworked of late anyway.
Yikes, not sure about that one. I was skeptical about him going out for a 3rd, let alone a 4th…
But the Save!!! They are more important than wins.
This would be his third game in a row, correct? For that matter, is there anyone left in the pen that WOUDLNT have pitched 3 days in a row if they came in for the 9th?
D-Rob.
gangster!
everytime i see aceves dominate like this, i miss mike mussina. he was such a good player.
I wonder how Aceves got through that 8th. He doesn’t have the ice water in his veins like Hughes and Joba do.
he’s no bull in a china shop if thats what you mean.
IETC.
Seeing the gangster do this I wonder if the coaches should show this to joba and say this is how you attack hitters.
Nobody is warming up! Aceves can’t possibly pitch the 9th! He doesn’t have the mental makeup.
Mo’s not up, Aceves going for the 12 out save!
Yeah old school save opportunity!
I see some pine in Cano’s near future
Yes, because getting two hits in a game – and not to mention being robbed of a third just now – deserves time on the bench.
I just want him to make an out that isn’t a ground ball to the 1st or 2nd baseman!
I swear some of you people beat cancer and think everything is so positive and jolly…he def didn’t run that last grounder out.
I wonder if Aceves has the stuff to be an above avg starter.
cone likes to “ride the hot hand”
shocker
lol
Remind me to never, ever shake Cone’s hand. Ever.
in a few years,
Cone: And the Yankees catcher Gary Sanchez get’s a little dirty on em.
I’m not sure about this one. Hope it all works out in the end though.
I remember a time when tie went to the runner… gym class was fun
i guess aceves is going out again w/no activity
i love aceves but id like to have d-rob warming..just incase
I guess there’s always D-Rob to back him up. But if Ace gets into trouble… how quick will Joe go to Mo?
wow that out call was bull sheet
Does look like Robbie beat the ball to the bag.
Not often does the man who finishes the game have more IP than the starter, as Aceves will if he isn’t pulled.
wait, so IF aceves got in trouble, joe’s going to be bruney in? lol
Alfredo Aceves > Justin Masterson.
See, kids? It pays off to be a RHP who can get out lefties. Just sayin’.
yezzur
Does Joba buy Ace dinner after this?
he buys him gold coins
Aceves….Wow. talk about making it look easy. Get the brooms ready tomorrow
Check out the motherfuckin’ Mexican Gangster. Much props.
*Muchos propos
+1.
Thread description fail.
dropped a deuce on em
Aceves with the fireman performance! Awesome!
hey mike, so how about that non 10-8 prediction
Oh you can kiss the fattest part of my ass.
haha you are hilarious
this is why i love reading this site
Blogger Fail!
2.02…That is all.
ACE MONEY!
Aceves just got through the 8th and 9th in a close game. But we should send Joba to the bullpen because he’s the only one who can pitch that 8th and become the heir apparent to Mo.
cant believe we signed ace from the Mexi-league last year.
lets hope jorge vasquez has the same impact.
Aceves is awesome.
So, can we assume, Ace will make Wang’s next start?
Sounds very possible.
Aceves has been amazing.
The Mexecutioner better get the WWE Championship belt. That was some damn good relief work.
Hey, as awesome as that nickname is, that is Joakim Soria’s; and Soria >>>>>>> Alfredo Aceves.
Yep…it definitely makes sense to have Hughes and Aceves in the bullpen so Joba can throw 5 innings as a starter.
so, Joba has his shortest, non-injury, start. of course, B-Jobers come out. Just go call Mike F and complain to him. we don’t want to hear it.
The 4-inning save, don’t see too many of those anymore.
Aceves > Gossage
Hahaha
Rebecca’s looking pretty smart right now – this team’s Ramiro Mendoza? Maybe….
Yeah, I thought that article was a bit premature, but he’s been great.
Here’s hoping he can keep it up for the rest of the year as well as going forward.
man Ace was GEICO MONEY
Love it.
It’s too bad “Mexican Gangster” can’t fit well on the back of a Yankee numbered t-shirt.
If you write “Ganstah” the Mexican part is implied.
The Gangster is quickly becoming the most dependable and my favorite member of the pitching staff. Nothing flashy, nothing hyped, just strikes and a ton of movement. He doesn’t nibble, doesn’t get nervous and doesn’t get into trouble with walks. You can literally see his composure as he stands on the mound and just serves up strikes. Whoever is our Mexican scout should get a huge bonus right now.
+1
Aceves was signed at the same time as Manny “Mini-Gangta” Banuelos!
Cool. New movement: “Gangstahh for Startahh”
10 runs and a win with no A-Rod. I approve.
I like the name of this thread.
hahaha.
The first 6 innings took like 4 hours. I go take a shower in the 7th and come back and it’s over.
WTF?
good pitching happened
the guy on the Red Sox Post-game show said Ellsbury was an all-star snub
Then so was Gardner.
are you serious? that makes me laugh
i guess BJ upton is a snub even though he has a boatload of steals too?
His early slump ruined any ASG chance, but he sure has been MVP of my fantasy team since mid-May.
Interesting stuff from Waldman after the game. Eiland said that he was going to have some long animated talks with Joba about pace, among other things. Eiland felt that Joba was way too slow between pitches.
Joba told Suzyn that he felt the best he felt all year, made good pitches, and that the Jays lineup just hit all his mistakes.
Easy to forget how difficult it is to pitch in the majors – even if you have Joba’s talent (or Hughes’)
Wasn’t it Posada who wanted him to pick up the pace and Jorge was the one who got unfairly labeled as “abrasive and hard to work with?” Maybe Joba should listen to the guy who’s been around for more than a decade.
i was yellin at the tv watching the game, at times joba is ridiclously slow between pitches, he has to get the ball, get the sign, an throw the fuckin ball, he needs to trust his stuff more
Aceves’ reputation is expanding faster than the universe.
they hang on his every word… even the prepositions
He once had an awkward moment,just to see how it feels…
Aceves, on getting people out: “A simple look should suffice…”
I missed this game, so can someone tell me what happened to Jobber? Was he as bad as the box score indicates?
pretty much
Joba’s post game interview was a joke. Ransom needs to be sent out of here. Teach Pena how to play the outfield in the offseason.