Game 87: Pettitte, Yanks seek redemption
ByYesterday’s game seemed pretty well at hand in the early goings, but the pitching slipped up after the fourth. They’ll look to rebound as a unit today and force a rubber game against a (what should be, considering their injuries) reeling Angels team. Andy Pettitte will seek some redemption on his own, as well. He pitched poorly last time out, and really needs to give the Yanks a solid start today.
The offense will have to do it against Jered Weaver, brother of forsaken former-Yank Jeff. The future of the Yankees could actually rest on Anaheim’s decision to select Jered with the 12th pick of the 2004 draft. Pre-draft word was that they had their eyes on a So-Cal high schooler named Phil Hughes. They opted for Weaver instead, and the Yankees took Hughes with the 23rd pick, one they received from the Houston Astros in compensation for, guess who, Andy Pettitte.
Weaver came up guns blazing in 2006, and actually took the rotation spot of his older brother, whom the Angels would eventually release. He had an over 3:1 K/BB ratio, and pitched to a 2.56 ERA over a few stints. He hasn’t been quite as good since, though given his solid peripherals his 4.33 ERA last year might have been a bit out of line (his FIP was 3.90).
This year Weaver has been by far the Angels’ best starter, though he’s had some trouble recently. The pinnacle of his season is his complete game shutout against San Diego on June 14. Since then he’s pitched 23.2 innings and allowed 19 runs. I always note recent trends for pitchers in the game threads, and after a half season of looking at it in hindsight, it appears to have no bearing on how he starts against the Yankees. So while Weaver has been getting slaughtered, it really means nothing insofar as today’s start is concerned.
Weaver throws a fastball that mostly sits high 80s and touches around 92 at times. That doesn’t sound like much, but he mixes it with a changeup that has about 10 mph separation. He’ll also drop a curve or a slider to mix things up, though not with as much frequency as the change.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Eric Hinske, RF
9. Brett Gardner, CF
And on the mound, number forty-six, Andy Pettitte.
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The Mason Williams Watch
Won’t matter unless we trade for a starter or two. Trade both Hughes and Joba. Overrated!
Could have had Santana for Hughes, and Halladay for Joba, or vice versa with prospects.
When could they have had Halladay for Joba? In your dreams?
And when could have they gotten Johan for Hughes? I think you’re forgetting a name or three.
Don’t let reality get in the way of your complaining about the team’s third loss in their last 16 games.
With prospects I noted. Those would have been the big chips, Thown in that stud Kennedy that everyone wanted to keep so bad, another rag arm.
You guys totally need to flag these imbeciles with a ‘Dumbass’ tag (do it by IP address).
Unearned runs:
CC + AJ = 3
Andy = 6
Teh Jobber =10
Bullpen Regulars: No one more than 3 (Coke)
And is it me, or is Clucthy McClutchbrera in the doghouse?
Nope. Seems more like a platoon.
oooh, okay. Selective memory. =)
Both CF suck, better to have Wells
David Wells can play CF?
Because you cannot possibly want Vernon Wells on the Yankees to play a horrible CF, not hit and get paid $20mil/year to do it. Can you?
Melky sucks, he should be packaged and dealt
Damon has been awful too, banged up or burned out, maybe the rest will help him.
wow you’re fucking annoying.
Why don’t we just trade the whole team TJ? 16 games over .500 just isn’t good enough.
Always seek to improve.
So has Swisher. Yanks have some holes to fill, they need a couple SPs, Bullpen, a RF.
After this year they can clear some deas weight (Matsui and Damon)
Holy Jesus Montero…
I know, Swisher sucks
I think someone’s mind is recovering from TJ surgery
They need lobotomy’s.
Lobotomies?
I hate the MLB Blackout policy as it relates to MLB.tv. I’m stuck listening to Sterling and Waldman today. Pray for me.
I’ll be suffering with you, my friend. It’s going to be brutal.
R-O-N
OK, I’ve figured it out. Tom and TJ are totally not serious.
And they’re the same person.
+100
We are too!@
Girardi kind of sucks, I like Pena better
Change your screen name one more time and you’re out of here. Changing names three times in one post isn’t going to make your comments any more relevant.
Lol that is childish.
You guy are too gentle on these dumbasses. I’d have banned him by the third idiotic post.
Woohoo no Buck/McCarver…Eric Karros? Eh
So is everyone, minus Melancon and Bruney, available out of the pen today?
I would think so. Well, not Aceves.
Leaves you w/ Robertson, Hughes, Coke, Mo and Tomko
I wonder how Uribe feels today after blowing the perfect game
Either one of two possibilities.
1) Sanchez came up to him and said, “hey, don’t worry about it” and Uribe is fine.
2) Uribe feels like shit.
or both
Point.
yea that’d be my guess.
FOX makes me miss even Kay and Flaherty…lets hope that Andy continues his on-again, off-again style just one more time.
Why is that everytime I get to watch the Yanks, which is only on Fox, Andy Pettitte is pitching? This is like the 3rd time at least.
lol dude that’s some tough luck
…He’s kinda right.
Except once it was Wang. The 22-4 game.
Yea, it sucks but luckily, I’ve seen A-rod homer in every game he was in (3 times now).
LOL even more painful
HEY! it’s Bobby A-Brew…
Abreu = A BREW!
I find the sleeveless jersey Weaver chooses to wear is kinda weird…
Bandbox reference already with 1 out.
Can FOX be any more obvious about increasing the volume on the microphones for the boos?
A-Rod has done it again!!!!!
Why do the Angels boo Tex? He did so much for them.
A-ROD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wooo!
effortless
an abomb! for arod!
damn he’s HEATING up. should’ve had another hr and 4 more rbis to his stats too.
uhh don’t remind me, that still stings a bit.
A-Rod is so unclutch =P
‘A scout told me’ that Arod’s washed up.
/Olney’d.
An “anonymous scout” of course.
His home run trots look like a 1st basemans.
Worst…contract…ever. Man this guy sux!!!1!!111!
Well, let’s not let A-Rod’s current success mask the horribleness of his contract.
It’s bad, but can you honestly agree with dim wits who have actually called it the worst contract ever? (cough…peteabe…cough)
Oh, it is the worst contract ever. He would have to be Pujolsing to justify that thing… Pujolsing and aging backwards.
LOL! That first pitch to A-rod was 90 mph but a breaking ball according to Stockton.
He learned it from watching Bard drop 100 MPH deuces.
Much like how Arod was supposed to tie Killebrew at 10th on the all time HR list with one more HR…. (It’s Palmeiro on the 10th spot, Killebrew is on the 9th spot according to the TV).
and Abreu is now pronounced A-brew, I likey!
Damn, I love when it’s not caught. Thank you, A-Rod.
It’d be even better if I could see it. Curse you, Fox blackout!
Wow, how in the hell did Matsui get on top of that pitch?
So the first pitch of Matsui’s AB was a ball but that was a strike? Bull.
…a lead off walk? Seriously?
I hope Andy is dandy today…
bad start already, damn these walks
That walk pitch to Figgins was exactly the same as the strikeout pitch to Matsui.
yea, I noticed that too
Not how you want to start the game after getting staked a lead…
PeteAbe: And A-Rod injects himself into the top 10 of the career home run list, tying Rafael Palmeiro with 569 home runs. He now trails Harmon Killebrew by four homers for ninth place.
He really Hates arod
Man, PeteAbe is a total POS lately.
D00d needs to get laid.
Abraham is terrible. He won’t say one bad word about Pettitte, but he bashes A-Rod every chance he gets. He’s a sportswirter so he constantly overreacts and hyperboles.
Yea, although I like his blog I really do hate his bias toward certain players
I’m REALLLY close to muting the darn TV…..
Stockton + Karros >>> Buck + McCarver
Not a good sign of things to come when you walk the pesky Figgins (no power) to lead off the game. I can’t understand it.
he has a OBP of .395, lets not act like he walked jeff franceour
Hah! Abreu has “blossomed”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GARDNER!!
Gardy!!!!!!
He’s out!
What a play for Little G
What an AWFUL call.
Call me paranoid, I think the officials don’t like the Yankees…
Weren’t you the one who told me umpiring was 18 times harder than I think, last week when the Yankees got screwed 3 times in the Toronto game. Ironic.
That was an easy call not to blow. And, yes, umpiring is still much harder than you think. Have you ever actually done it?
Yes at college level along with my father. And I don’t care, it is there job to get it right. That was not the HP umpires call. 1st base was our of position and turned towards the outfield. the umpire at second would have tracked the ball to fielder
OUT!!! Fuckin umps
yeah, by a good step too
Double play! Fucking ump!!!!!!!
Soooo…about that instant replay issue?
umpiring has been frustrating lately
An Abreu DP would be nice…
Wow. I’m not big on conspiracy theories, but this is way too many fucking bad calls.
Eerie that I agree with you.
I know I am preaching to the choir but this is getting ridiculous. These fat lazy out of position fucks are killing the game. And please, none of this “umpiring is 18 times harder than I think” crap. Its their job, if they can’t do it get out.
AMEN!
But the ball beat him to the bag!!!
It’s not ironic that Abreu was with the Yankees and now plays on the Angels.
Yes it is. It’s like rain on your wedding day. It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid. It’s good advice that you just can’t.
Pettitte is slow to the plate.
He’s got a great move to first, but if he’s not throwing to first, he’s an easy steal.
+1
isnt that how its always been? guys go on first move off of him
I believe he was responding to the umpire saying that Pettitte is real hard to steal off of.
Abreu epitomizes Angels baseball? He’s patient and takes walks.
Damn, coulda been a DP
The Mets are in a tough race to make odd moves with the Royals. The Royals traded for Mike Jacobs and now Betancourt (traded 2 pretty good pitchers. The Mets traded Church for Francoeur and now signed Berroa for some reason.
I don’t know if this has been posted here, but METS CLAIMED ANGEL BERROA OF WAIVERS.
METS = 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014… WS Champions!
And, ladies and gentlemen, THAT is how you pitch around shit umpiring.
Did they just say “snuff” on the TV?
so we can add Mike Everitt to our Umpire Shit List, right?
A-rod is on fire and i love it!
Yup, I’m hoping for a big run after the break as everyone seems to be rounding into form.
with a few exceptions of course…
can’t wait till both Tex and A-Rod get going at the same time. Will be filthy.
Guys, is it normal for my ears to bleed from watching?
only when you are listening to ESPN and FOX
On Fox, yes.
Oooooof, good changeup by Weaver there on strike two. Is it just my selective memory or is Jorge getting destroyed by changes this year?
Jorge sucks. Why don’t they DFA Molina and start Cervelli?
Hey Mike, will Jesus play tonight even though he has to make the trip to St. Louis tomorrow?
Excellent
If Alex had gotten that Grand slam, he would be 2nd on the team in RBI and HRs already…
smart move by posada, but damn he struck out
has weaver’s fastball always been at 90?
Avg. fastball velo. of 89.7 for his career via Fan Graphs.
That replay shows you just how badly positioned the umpire was. He was behind the bag and his view of the ball was essentially blocked by Teixeira.
Speaking of Fox, remember the playoffs on TBS? Worst announcing I’ve ever heard in my life.
Was it make your ears bleed bad?
I had to sedate myself with alcohol and keep paper towels handy for the ear-blood.
That was so long ago I don’t remember.
HINSKE!!!!!!
Wow. I’m watching this game ON the west coast, and I saw that homer three minutes later than y’all.
Weird.
Oh…wait. I’m an idiot. A friend called me and I paused the game on Tivo.
Dumbass.
IETC.
HINSKAY!!!!!!!
HINSKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shitske!
Power from Hinske!
HINSKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HINSKE!
HINSKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
AWESOME. HE SHOULD START EVERY GAME STEVE SWISHER SUCKS
BANDBOX!
omg if Hinke turns into David Justice…
Haha I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves
IF.
But it’s truly impossible.
Yeah, never gonna happen.
Eric Hinske has started two games as a Yankee and now has 2 HR. Eric Hinske = Shelley Duncan?
as long as we keep on winning, he can be whomever he wants to be
Please no.
Fingers crossed for Shane Spencer 2.0! Haha
Glenallen Hill. Only plays twice a week but hits homeruns all the time.
Yeah Hinske! Looks like Cash’s most recent under-the-radar move is working out so far.
We got Hinske AND cash from Pirates for two prospects that were never going to help the big league club.
Yeah, sometimes the great moves are the low-profile ones.
thats how championship teams are made
+42
-7
And Hinske’s been on 2 of them right? One WS Champion team and one AL Champion team.
correct. in back to back years no less
sox 07
rays 08
Haha Hinske is the missing link! It wasn’t Beckett in 07, it was Hinske! #27 here we come!
Just kidding, although I’m glad to have Hinske on the team.
Hinske has already done enough to make this a successful trade, right? For Fryer and Erickson (?), it’s already good
Definitely. I doubt those players would have ever contributed to the major league club. Hinske has a track record of being a successful bench guy who can pinch hit with some pop and get the occasional start to rest a regular.
I’d be surprised if they ever even helped the Pirates that much.
great inning for pettite
kept the ball up just enough to force them to overswing
Jeter’s bat has been busy in the past 24 hours, especially last night, since we are in Cali…
I hope he scores again today/tonight
There is just no outside corner for Pettitte. Makes you wonder why there is even a definition of the strike zone in the rule book.
here is a story, Ted Barrett runs a clinic in Arizona in late Jan, early Feb. The strike zone they teach is 2 balls width off the black. Their view is that the hitters can reach it so it is a strike.
Makes you wonder why there is even a definition of the strike zone in the rule book.
I say this literally every time there’s a bad strike/ball call: there needs to be a standardized strike-zone that has to be enforced. Pitchers and hitters should not have to play a guessing game as to what the strike-zone based on who’s calling the game that day.
I agree.
When I was in little league, I hit a ball a foot over my head and got a triple, but that didn’t make it a strike.
Holy shit; I did not realize Jeets was that close to Gehrig.
it was waht 70-80 away? he should reach it this year
Which record is that?
the all time hit record as a yankee
i wonder, seeing how weaver pitches, if he can be able to stay healthy past the age of 30
I wouldn’t want to face the Giants or Cards in the playoffs because of their pitching
the cards pitching isn’t that great
Chris carpenter was TERRIBLE against the AL as a blue jay, but when he moved to the NL, the could finally get the hitters out.
while that may be right, that was 6 years ago. he’s a stud when healthy
Lohse and Wainwright are pretty good
Carpenter was a very good prospect, just kept getting hurt. Serious injuries too. It’s more like he managed to stay healthy for a few years rather than feasting on the weak NL.
In a long series I’d prefer the Giants but whoever draws them in a short series is screwed.
amen to that.
lincecum cain johnson zito sanchez and a myriad of kids they can call up
yikes
That was exactly my thinking when I bet on them before the season.
What are you looking for on that one, Tex?
Andy totally got squeezed there in the Wood AB
yeah that 3rd pitch was a definite strike
I thought all the BB’s were the new stadiums fault Andy!
Excellent.
I’m a little late to the party today. What kind of HR did Al hit?
2-run
oppo field, center, left? Deep or right over the fence?
Just cleared the fence in left center. Not a bomb but by no means a cheapy
nice thanks.
Left center.
Well, it kind of carried but I though it had a really good good shot to go out. It went to left center and Im gonna guess it was a 395-400 ft shot
Line drive homer. I thought it was going to be a double
It was a pitch on the inside corner and he got his hands in on it real quick and was able to drive it out.
Gracias everyone.
TERRIFIC GIDP!
Double Play!!!! Take that umps
See, now if Pettitte can forget there is an inconsistent umpire behind HP, he will be fine. That was nice pitching.
Is it possible that an Anti-Yankee bias outside of NY influences the umpires to make calls against the Yanks? Consciously or subconsciously?
this angels stadium is beautiful
http://deadspin.com/5296815/wh.....el-stadium
“One Red Sox fan was taunting a woman in a wheel chair during last year’s playoffs.”
It’s a Bawston fan… what else do we expect?
that was a funny read
I think it’s funny how Stockton calls every fastball a breaking ball
If Wakefield starts the ASG I may have to give up baseball.
Haren should start for the NL.
Robinson Canó comes through with a man on and two out!
Nice AB by A-rod
agreed
Al’s average is creepin up to a dangerous level. I wonder if his OBP will raise accordingly or if it will level off around .410 where it is now.
it will most def rise. I bet it goes to about .440ish maybe .450
i wish it could be bonds like of .500+ w/o the clear or the cream
Bonds had a .609 OBP in 2004!! DAYUM!!!!!!!!!!!!
my god that is incredible
was that better than ruth?
ruth’s highest OBP was .545
bonds 45 hr in only 373 AB too
well, he’s been a walking a lot this year even during his huge slump. He’s striking out less so maybe he does keep that OBP up.
Smart play by A-rod going to the outside of the bag to avoid being picked off. I just learned a basic fundamental of baseball by watching.
HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS MORON GONNA CALL A 93 MPH FASTBALL “A BREAKING PITCH”?
14
Ugh. Matsui.
what a pathetic swing and miss by matsui!
IMO, no one looks worse than Matsui while swinging and missing.
Swisher is close
I think Matsui’s bucket-stepping is what makes him look so awful.
he and ichiro look terrible when swinging and missing
Yeah, it’s the way the japanese players lunge and lean into their swing.
fukudome is a classic example
CANO!!!!!!!! no longer RBI-allergic! no more RBI-phobia!!!
Just ugly
i bet posada hits here
How about Hinske, this guy probably deserves a lot more playing time.
He’s hit 1 HR. Swish is the better defender and better hitter. Damon is better. There’s nowhere for Hinske to play. He’s a bench player.
he’s actually hit 2 HRs
Still shouldn’t be taking PT from anyone right now.
he has 2 HR, but i agree
2 hr’s.
Jared Weaver looks like one of those kids who was a total shit head in middle school
Maybe it is the whispy Meg Ryan do.
I think it’s that he’s related to Jeff.
Good call.
robbie proves em wrong!!!
They should have cut Cano when they had the chance.
ROBBIE GOT A HIT WITH A RISP!!!!
A-rod’s getting on base over 41.5% of the time yet he hasn’t scored much so hopefully Robbie gets hot with RISP to bring him home more.
And there we go Robbie!
He just hits so much better in the 6th spot
Robbie!
man… arod over his last 15 games… and including today’s stats…
404/551/843
damn.
those are the amazing stats a-rod said in february he wanted to have this season
hope he keeps that up for a long time. I know his AVG will stay up for the BABIP correction, maybe the SLG goes down a bit. But even when A-rod isn’t A-rod completely, he’s still immensibly valubale and productive.
great inning by the yankees!
Uh-oh cmon Andy…I hate 1-2 hits too
0-0 hits are worse
no they’re not that bad…1-2 and 0-2 hits piss me off
Thanks Robbie! Before the 08 season I dropped the cash on an authentic Jersey, and I went with Robbie, the guy I anointed as my favorite active position player after Bernie retired. After last season, it makes me smile to see Robbie do rebound.
man aybar was chillaxin and waiting for that pitch
lets hope that we can escape this 4th inning
Ugh, Abreu is so damn good, I wouldn’t mind part deux next season.
only if he is DH
nothing else
No.
No no no. The grass is always greener. He’s hitting well, but I doubt his defense — which was historically bad in 2008 — has improved. He gave back most of his value last year with his terrible defense. The Yanks don’t need more DHes.
WHo’s our DH next year? JoPo is going to catch 115+, let’s see how it shakes out.
Also, let’s not underestimate 300/400, 25+SB 100 R’s 100 BB’s
Let’s not underestimate just how bad his defense is. Seriously. He’s a huge liability out there.
True, which is why having him DH a good chunk would be great. Let’s not act like Swish and Damon have been gold glovers this year. Abreu has his obvious faults, especially on the deep fly ball. While he gives up runs with some misplayed balls, he also takes runs away with the cannon attached to his body. What he does on offense is hard to mimic.
Compared to Abreu, they have been. According to every metric we have, he was terrible in 2008. Awful. And his arm became a LOT less accurate.
He’s an offense-only player now.
I’m not telling you he’s average on defense, he’s probably below average. I’m not sure where we disagree. Like I said, I wouldn’t mind Abreu part deux next year. Offense only? He’s not Hideki Matsui.
I think you’re really underestimating how bad his defense is. He’s approaching what Matsui could do on crutches.
exactly…it was similar with Manny
well if they get rid of damon and matsui…
they need a DH
Not really.
With the time that ARod, Jeter and Posada should spend at DH, I’d be happier if they got a better backup IFer, and then got Damon and Nady on one year deals to rotate in the corners with Swisher so Damon can have DH ABs too.
Since Crawford isn’t going to be available, I’d much rather wind up with Damon and Nady on 1-year deals than spend too much for too long on Bay or Holliday.
Nady? who knows if his arm will even work.
It goes without saying that this is pending medicals.
Replace him with Juan Rivera, then.
Yeah, it’s going to be a fun winter.I’m not sure if Cashmoney and Joe G are sold on Swish at the halfway point. Either way, we definitely have a couple holes to fill after we win this year.
does Juan Rivera have a 3 year contact?
You know, Robbie’s had a couple of hit recently with RISP so I hope that brings his confidence up in those spots and hits well.
I know he can’t play defense, but I can’t help but think abreu would be racking up numbers if he was still in the yankees lineup
Well Joba couldn’t hold a 4 run lead, what is pettitte’s fate?
he’ll hold this lead
yea, I hope he can hold them here
I assume veteran pitchers have better crisis management, thanks to all the experience.
HUUUUGE STRIKE OUT THERE ANDY!
Yeah, he needs to close the door while we still have a somewhat comfortable lead.
and he closed the door right there
Would you give up Joba Chamberlain and Austin Jackson for Roy Halladay?
TJ, is that you?
nah, I think AJ has been here before and that seemed like a good question.
To answer it, I wouldn’t but I love our prospects and I doubt the Jays take “only” that much.
Does it matter? Jays would never pull the trigger.
i would personally drive them as long as the yankees can negotiate with halladay.
but i wouldnt be surprised if the yankees pull off a cliff lee deal with jackson as the centerpiece
I’d be willing to trade anyone for the right deal,I just don’t think Halladay is where some of the farm should go, a top corner outfielder for next year would be nice.
Nice Andy…damage control, teach it to Joba
I’d rather CC teach him. Andy hasn’t been so hot at it this year or last…
still, he has been good at limiting damage with his high hits and somewhat the walks.
If everyone can teach him, it would be best.
lets remember andy gave up 4+ ER 7 times this year, not counting ATL when his defense failed but couldnt control damage.
yea true but he has still limited the damage. He has decent stuff and gives up a lot of hits and has had a lot of control problems this year. 8 wins, yes wins are a flawed stat, say that he has limited damage to keep the team in a position/chance to win.
dont really agree, but as a veteran does he have stuff to teach joba? yeah, but also dont know what kind of guy Andy is as a teacher. Mussina was the one to take Kennedy/Hughes under his wing last year, not Pettitte
true…Moose should come back and teach Joba how to limit damage, he’d be the best.
Speaking of vets teaching rookies, do you guys think Mo comes back as a coach after he retires, or does something less involved like Yogi does?
as a special instructor in ST sure. as bench/pitching/etc coach, no
Plus he can’t teach the cut. He say’s that he’s tried over the years and other pitchers just can’t throw it. It’s hard for all-timers to coach. I agree, probably consultant/special instructor. I think he’ll be around plenty.
Was almost out of there with that swing!
MyPinstripes Jesus Montero put on inactive list to play in the Futures Game in St. Lou
I wonder why? Could it just be the Yanks don’t want him to play
Nono, I think you’re misreading the post–
I think that Montero’s inactive for Trenton cos he has to go to St. Louis tomorrow
oh gotcha. I didn’t get it because I thought that was obvious so it musn have something else you were saying. EPIC FAIL me.
no i think she means hes leaving the AA team to go to St Louis to play in the game.
Jered Weaver is a starting pitcha
jeter is fucking money as usual
Man, Jeter and A-Rod are on fire right now.
Argh, posting in the wrong comments…gotta love Jeet though.
Abreu has a -4.9 UZR/150 but had a -25.3 UZR/150 with us last year!
did Damon bust it down the line?
ugh…
fuckin a tex
Is it me or is Andy so not getting those calls?
he’s not at all
He’s not…this guy’s strikezone is shifted a few inches to the right (our right his left) when Weaver pitches.
both…I’d say nearly 50/50
With Weaver nearing 100 pitches, it’s time to knock him out and get to the soft underbelly of the Angels’ bullpen…
we said the same thing yesterday
how did that work out?
If our pitching doesn’t blow up again, it’ll work out fine. We scored 6 runs last night, that’s enough to win most ball games.
Odd to see Kendrick at 227.
agreed. he is a very very good hitter. Let’s hope he gets hot after the break and not against the yanks
I’m really sick of this troll-like play by play man calling fastballs breaking balls…its very irritating
better than red sox knob polisher rick sutcliffe
Did Stockton seriously call that pitch “a bit high”? Wow. It was at the dude’s thigh.
that ball 2 Wood is a call that Andy isn’t getting but Weaver is
UMPS hate Yankees…
DAMN IT!!!!LHLKJLSJDLJSDJ!!!
It’s the ballpark Andy.
damn it Andy/Umps
get it together…
Damn bandbox.. oh wait
What is the leash on Andy today?
Woooonderful.
this same shit happened to job yesterday in the 5th inning
DAMMIT. Gotta get out of this inning.
oh shit, it’s the 5th innings again..Cmon Andy
I dislike it when the Yanks play the Angels.
So, think Pete will have 10 updates on Pettitte’s suckitude? Or is that limited to Joba?
oh jesus
david robertson working in the pen
Oh God Robertson is up. Why not Aceves??? Oh wait…..
Assuming Andy gets out of the inning with the lead, who goes for the 6th? Pettite or D-rob?
they should make joba come in and pitch relief as punishment
We have to come back to Anaheim?
Fuck southern california
Ump hasn’t been too bad according to pitch fx.
http://brooksbaseball.net/pfx/.....evDate=711
issue is he’s giving Weaver the strike off the plate, and not giving it to Pettitte. Otherwise he’s been fine
No replay of the play at 1st??
Kirk Gibson never made an All-Star team????
Joe Buck totally doesn’t seem like the guy who would have a BBQ at his house.
Wikipedia says Mantle only played 18 years and was an all-star 16 times. Who’s right?
http://www.baseball-reference......html?redir
damn it…cmon Andy!!!!!!
What a nightmare.
FUUUUUUUK andy!!!
lets finish this shit
Andy’s pitching to the score in this inning for sure.
I’m hating this game
If only the Angels didnt have Torri Hunter, Vlad and Juan Rivera in their lineup…..
Chone Figgins isn’t going 1st to 3rd because he’s on the Angels. He’s going 1st to 3rd because he’s fast.
So much for the 4 run lead. What is it with 4 run leads that is so hard to hold?
They need to send Andy down to Scranton to correct himself.
For as good as Burnett and CC have been, Joba and Andy have leveled things out.
It’s like we’re fucking cursed in Anaheim.
I’m not normally this easily frustrated, but this has been going on for years.
Or maybe our pitching just sucks against them this series.
Weaver:
http://tinyurl.com/l4ba6t
Pettitte:
http://tinyurl.com/mqar9j
Clearly Weaver getting the pitch off the plate, and while Pettitte hasn’t gone there as much, not so much on calls
does the graph distinguish between swinging and called strikes?
http://tinyurl.com/lnyvdo
That will only list called strikes, same, Angels getting calls off the plate, Yanks not so much.
Since when is his name ABRAY-OH
fuck..2nd straight 5th inning in which a big lead was blown
Man this sux. Get Pettite out of there please.
to continue our convo from earlier; andy really limited the damage today
Man this sux. Get Pettite out of there please.
And another Yankee starter gets a 4 run lead and then says fuck you.
Wow. Check out PEteAbe’s updates.
He literally had 8 updates last night talking about how Joba was t3h suckitude.
Andy? Nothing.
because andy pettitte is a starting pitchaa!
oh poor joba someones picking on him maybe the fans and front office should coddle him some more
It’s the fucking double standards that piss me off.
I don’t know how anything I say is going to make Joba better or worse.
We need to change the order of the rotation. The bullpen can’t survive with Joba and Pettitte pitching back-to-back.
You mean, Aceves, Joba, Pettitte. back-to-back-to-back
You mean, Aceves, Joba, Pettitte. back-to-back-to-back
In this case, yes. After seeing these performances, there’s no way they continue stretching Aceves out.
Last night a black cat was about to cross my path while driving. It was 5-1 Yanks at the time. I could have kept going and ran it over but my girlfriend says “CAT!!”. So I stopped and it crossed our path. Before I knew it, 5-5. Women..
Abreu is schooling Swisher at the plate
Well Yanks are going to have to come from behind again. They will to the top of the next inning down 6-4
I don’t even know what to say at this point.
wow. that got ugly quickly.
I HATE the Angles.
well, that sucked
atleast he didnt walk him?
Two teams I would like to avoid in the playoffs: Red Sox and Angels. I don’t know what it is. This is insane. Why do we struggle so much against the Angels? They’re freaking missing Vlad and Hunter. WTF.
We are just sending out the wrong pitchers at the wrong time.
Nice job Dave.
Fucking a.
Fuck you Robertson. So tired of this weak ass pitching.
But hey, we Hughes for the 8th. Well done.
I’m not sure if yesterday or today is more depressing.
Either way I am really fucking pissed, and I don’t have another game to turn to.
We don’t need Street, just call up Melancon and D-Rob.
The Rockies are dying to trade their ace reliever. They aren’t our AAA affiliate.
really? I thought we’d just swap Igawa for Street, Colorado would have to give us some cash too..
Robertson and inherited runners isnt a good mix.
Dropping a lead is one thing.
Watching a lead being dropped is another.
But watching the lead evaporate while listening to Karros+Stockton is excruciating….
*facepalm*
wow this feels like april
UPDATE, 5:28 p.m.: Nice job by Pettitte limiting the damage. Take notes, Joba. This is pitching.
4-1 Yankees after four innings.
heh I saw that. He’s got his head up his ass. A-Rod and Jobber are teh suxor.
That is it. This is horrible. Not one Yankee patted Andy on the back after he left. Not one. His teammates are fed up with his act. I’m Peter Abraham and I’m talking out of my ass again. I bash A-Rod for taking steroids, but say nothing bad about Pettitte. Joba needs to be sent down to Scranton!
well he was pitching decent back then, check his latest posts
Why is it that as soon as his runner gets on, Robertson toughens up?
Maybe he hates our starting pitching staff. Haha.
Mike Scioscia must circle the games against the Yankees and just smile when the schedule comes out. The dude has owned our team. I thought that would change once Torre left, but doesn’t look like it.
Good thing is that Weaver has been shaky and hittable. Hopefully our offense gets the lead back.
Seriously the Angels before the All Star Break. Fucking MLB and their scheduling.
why are you mad about that? its a gift to get 4 days off after being on the west coast . would you rather have them go out on a west coast trip, have 1 day off to fly across the country home then play 6 days in a row?
i know we love robertson, but he does a horrible job when he comes in to relieve somebody. give napoli a double and get a weak DP gb for morales? ugh.
Looks like yesterday all over again.
robertson’s walks are really fucking annoying
D-Rob has no control in the bigs. Hopefully it’s just a rookie thang.
channelling Joba.
I live in SO Cal and I hate to see the Yankees here, they always suck when they come out. Not really sure what it is, it isn’t the team (Angels). Maybe the time difference? The heat?
Dang Joey G is so pissed.
This is an awful awful inning.
are you serious? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Good thing they have Phil Hughes in the pen to protect this lead. Oh wait …
this is disgraceful ugh
Awful, Gay Angels
There is your game.
Tell me again why Hughes is in the pen?
Robertson, just like throwing gas on a fire.
I know its silly to play MMQB, but if the Yankees had just called up Mitre to start the other day, we could have had Ace relieve Andy. Girardi knows how tough the Angels play the Yanks and having Aceves this series would have been very valuable.
Ace wouldn’t have been available today since he would’ve thrown 2+ innings in relief of Joba last night.
Ah shit. Good point. 6 innings fellas. 6 innings. That’s all we ask. Can’t keep doing this less than 5 innings crap. Our BP is finally doing well (minus Robertson) and we’re just burning through them. Thank God for the ASB.
Sergio Mitre sucks. People need to learn this.
You’ve scouted him?
He has always sucked in the past, he sucks now.
I don’t need Round 12 of “fellate whoever is in AAA/on the bench.” He’s garbage.
I don’t think anybody has claimed otherwise.
All anybody is saying is that it would’ve been good to use him for a spot start just before the AS break. Make him go 5-6 innings, even if he gets knocked around. It would’ve saved the bullpen for a big series against a team you’re battling for the wild card.
FUCK! FUCK!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate the 5th inning
Thank you for not being able to get the 7, 8, 9 hitters out Andy. I can’t wait until he is gone.
I know we’re pissed, but Andy was supposed to be our 5th starter. I wasn’t expecting much from him. But with the injuries to Wang and Joba forgetting how to pitch, there’s more pressure on Andy to perform. It sucks, but he has to step up for us.
Eh, the only pressure on Andy is him earning his bonuses. He doesn’t deserve them if you ask me.
IS IT FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO BEAT THE ANGELS
Talk about POURING GAS on a fire. This is a freakin joke.
Why Girardi continues to bring Robertson in with runners on I have no idea. Unbelievable.
Ballgame. I’m out.
Robertson should have gone to AAA instead of Alby.
can these announcers shut the fuck up? who the hell is the color commentator? i wanna slap his bitch ass in the face.
UGH, STFU KARROS AND STOCKTON!!!
We get the friggin idea…
Wake me up when the game ends…
At this point, I’d settle for someone hitting Howie Kendrick in the head. Applying tags to the face.
I would like to beat the fucking Angels in Anaheim once. Just one fucking series.
I hate that team so fucking much.
Ugh, thanks Joba, thanks Andy. At least with Joba he’s young and we expect growing pains.
oh man, yesterday’s loss stung, we better win today
these past two games just piss you off. atleast ill get to see mir make that clown lesnar tap out again tonight
Fuck Mir!! heh, can’t wait for GSP to bring the ruckus tonight vs Alves.
New thread?
I wish we could’ve kept Bobby “Abray-Oh”
a 7 spot is absolutely… omg. what the HELL is that.
10 runs last night.
8 runs so far today.
I would hate to see what the Angels would do to the Yanks if they had there full squad.
It’s over, the Yanks always suck in So Cal, don’t understand it
Arod wiffs. I guarantee we go 3 up and down this inning
What is worse than this game, Watching Matsui swing. Please retire.
yeah shelley duncan would be sooo much better
seriously?
Officially turned the TV off, I don’t mind watching losing games…. BUT Karros and Stockton is just fucking horrible.
Dear CC
Please go 9 innings tomorrow
kthxbye
Love,
The Bullpen
Love,
The Yankee fans.
suddenly, Weaver is gets hot, thank god this is his last inning
Thank you sir may I have another.
I’m entirely irrational at this point. I’d just like someone on the Angels to get hit in the head.
why is that your answer to lowsy pitching?
Tex and Matsui are lost against Weaver.
way to respond to a 7 run inning… this team needs man parts
Great. Now Weaver is owning the offense.
so glad we took a surplus in the rotation and got rid of it just because we had 6 guys healthy and put hughes in the pen. because health always, always lasts in the rotation. now everything blowing up in the rotation and we are naked. awesome.
the season’s ovahhhhh!!!1
Two pitchers have shitty outings and the rotation is blowing up!? Since when are the #4 and #5 pitchers on a team unhittable every outing?
That is how you pitch after your team scores some runs.
Thats how !!!!
Can we just forfeit from now on? Its useless to even play these guys
its sad that i think i have more faith in tomko than robertson
Wait. Why is Phil Hughes in the pen? Someone tell me.
What a shock, our hitters fold like lilly’s after a half-inning spanking. Way to pick up the team.
The Yankees are an elite team, no doubt. The problem is they are at the absolute bottom of that pack. They’ll beat up on the chumps all year, only to half their asses handed to them when the facing the real teams.
The way this thread has turned, you would think we just lost 13 of 15 games. Yes, this is frustrating as hell but it is a part of a 162 game season, stuff like this happens.
Fox sucks plain and simple, they NEVER talk about the game, how about bringing up the ASS decision to spot start Al Aceves and that is why the bullpen has sucked, i promise you Aceves is the man in the 5th not robertson, and i also promise you he doesnt allow 4 runs… who was the brains behind the idea to set your self up for 3 pitchers in a row who wont go more than 6 max???