Comments on: Game 91 Spillover Thread http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:22:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jim p http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485316 jim p Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:40:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485316 I see him as Jason Giambi, but cheaper. I see him as Jason Giambi, but cheaper.

]]> By: handtius http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485164 handtius Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:32:13 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485164 If Gardner is at the top of the order, I would swap him with Jete for that game. I'd rather have Jete driving in Gardner after he steels second then Gardner hit behind Jete. If Gardner is at the top of the order, I would swap him with Jete for that game. I’d rather have Jete driving in Gardner after he steels second then Gardner hit behind Jete.

]]> By: mattb http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485160 mattb Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:31:00 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485160 mattb Says: Awfully encouraging. I think Joba did a lot of things well today–just a much better job of attacking and trusting his stuff. But boy, you can’t ignore the velocity jump. By my count, he threw 71 fastballs, and his average velocity comes out to pretty much exactly 93–now that’s very good for Joba this year, though it’s still off from where he was pre=Texas shoulder. But starting with his 50th fastball, boy, he turned it on. The distribution from that point on: 92---1 93---5 94---5 95---4 96---3 97---4 That's an average velocity of 94.6, which is comparable to Joba the starter in 2008. He also hit 95 and 96 twice each earlier in the game. Note there have been games this year where he his peak FB is 95. Now maybe it was the extra rest--and frankly, I think that should be looked at. I know tjsc feels differently on this, and I don't know how many opportunities to exist to do (and also whether doing so requires giving an unacceptable number of additional starts to guys like Mitre), but do you have to think about skipping him whenever the chance arises? Maybe it gives you a more effective Joba, and also conceivably one who could start a playoff game if the circumstances should so justify. Don't get me wrong--he needs to learn to be effective on normal rest. But I'd definitely be open to them trying to be a little creative here on out this year. Also, in listenting to his postgame comments right now, makes me think even more this is something worth considering--he sounds like a totally different guy talking right now, and I think this is valid--for all he says it doesn't matter, he can't be unaffected by some of the issues surrounding his family right now, and it sounds like he really did need a break both mentally and physically. mattb Says:

Awfully encouraging. I think Joba did a lot of things well today–just a much better job of attacking and trusting his stuff. But boy, you can’t ignore the velocity jump. By my count, he threw 71 fastballs, and his average velocity comes out to pretty much exactly 93–now that’s very good for Joba this year, though it’s still off from where he was pre=Texas shoulder. But starting with his 50th fastball, boy, he turned it on. The distribution from that point on:

92—1
93—5
94—5
95—4
96—3
97—4

That’s an average velocity of 94.6, which is comparable to Joba the starter in 2008.

He also hit 95 and 96 twice each earlier in the game. Note there have been games this year where he his peak FB is 95.

Now maybe it was the extra rest–and frankly, I think that should be looked at. I know tjsc feels differently on this, and I don’t know how many opportunities to exist to do (and also whether doing so requires giving an unacceptable number of additional starts to guys like Mitre), but do you have to think about skipping him whenever the chance arises? Maybe it gives you a more effective Joba, and also conceivably one who could start a playoff game if the circumstances should so justify.

Don’t get me wrong–he needs to learn to be effective on normal rest. But I’d definitely be open to them trying to be a little creative here on out this year.

Also, in listenting to his postgame comments right now, makes me think even more this is something worth considering–he sounds like a totally different guy talking right now, and I think this is valid–for all he says it doesn’t matter, he can’t be unaffected by some of the issues surrounding his family right now, and it sounds like he really did need a break both mentally and physically.

]]> By: Drew http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485145 Drew Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:24:47 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485145 As many pitches as Swish sees, I'd rather gardy than Swish in the 2 hole when JD needs a rest. As many pitches as Swish sees, I’d rather gardy than Swish in the 2 hole when JD needs a rest.

]]> By: Drew http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485142 Drew Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:23:11 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485142 Missed most of the game today, I was busy catching a monster fluke. I got to see Mo close it out at least. Man, I can't (well, I guess I sorta can) believe that Al already has 19 HR's. If him and Teix both get it going together, and if Al gets that average up, we are going to be on fire. Great job by Jober today too. Any time his max FB is 97, today it was 96.9, he is a killer. Missed most of the game today, I was busy catching a monster fluke.

I got to see Mo close it out at least. Man, I can’t (well, I guess I sorta can) believe that Al already has 19 HR’s. If him and Teix both get it going together, and if Al gets that average up, we are going to be on fire.

Great job by Jober today too. Any time his max FB is 97, today it was 96.9, he is a killer.

]]> By: pat http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485136 pat Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:19:28 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485136 .280 with a discerning eye and ridiculous speed that can mess with a pitchers mindset against tex and arod? I'll take that as a once in a while thing when subbing for damon. .280 with a discerning eye and ridiculous speed that can mess with a pitchers mindset against tex and arod? I’ll take that as a once in a while thing when subbing for damon.

]]> By: handtius http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485133 handtius Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:17:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485133 actually, no I do not. I'm stating that our 3-4 is getting healthy and Gardner has no business batting between Jeter and Tex. He should be leading of or batting 9th. actually, no I do not. I’m stating that our 3-4 is getting healthy and Gardner has no business batting between Jeter and Tex. He should be leading of or batting 9th.

]]> By: pat http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485127 pat Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:14:07 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485127 I can see Joba really taking off for the 2nd half. Now that the finish line is in sight he might not be so timid with the fastball I can see Joba really taking off for the 2nd half. Now that the finish line is in sight he might not be so timid with the fastball

]]> By: Zach http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485125 Zach Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:12:55 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485125 nitpick much? nitpick much?

]]> By: Brett Speedner http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/game-91-spillover-thread-14758/#comment-485123 Brett Speedner Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:09:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=14758#comment-485123 Maybe Joba is a 2nd Half Pitcher like Cano is a 2nd Half hitter (though not today) Maybe Joba is a 2nd Half Pitcher like Cano is a 2nd Half hitter (though not today)

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