Game 91: Yanks can beat a first place team
ByThe Yanks might not have a good record against the Angels and the Red Sox, but they’ve done just fine against other contenders, like the Twins, the Rangers, the Rays, the Mariners, and yes, the Tigers. They’ll go for the sweep today. It’s a big game not only because of that, but because Joba Chamberlain takes the mound. It’s always a big game with Joba.
We know Joba has struggled mightily over his last few appearances. As we saw in the Joba Lane series (Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3), his struggles aren’t surprising. It’s all about throwing strikes, and for the most part he has failed at that this season. His velocity is a concern, but not nearly a much as his control. He’ll get a chance to redeem himself after a bit of a layoff.
His opponent is Edwin Jackson, to whom we can point (along with yesterday’s starter, Justin Verlander) as an example of what can happen when you have patience with a young pitcher. A sixth-round pick of the Dodgers in 2001, Jackson shot up the minor league ranks, dominating the rookie league and A ball in his first two seasons. In 2003 he pitched very well at AA, striking out more than a batter an inning and keeping his walks at a decent clip. This led to a September call-up, in which Jackson continued pitching well.
Jackson was up and down in 2004, picking up a win on June 2, then coming back in July for a couple of starts. He bombed in his September redux, however. He went back to the minors to start the 2005 season and didn’t get a call-up until August 22. Considering how poorly he pitched at AAA — an 8.62 ERA over 55.1 innings — this is not a surprise. Again, Jackson pitched poorly at the major league level, though he closed out the season with a couple of decent performances.
The Dodgers, however, had seen enough. That off-season they dished him and Chuck Tiffany to the Rays for Danys Baez and Lance Carter. At the time, Baez was coming off a good season as Tampa Bay’s closer, so the Dodgers thought they were dishing a busted prospect for a solid reliever. While Jackson wouldn’t come to maturity right away, the Dodgers got little use out of Baez, who allowed 24 runs over 49.2 innings before the Braves traded Wilson Betemit for him.
It took two seasons of struggles before Jackson finally caught on. His problem throughout his latter major league stints was a way-too-high walk rate. He brought that down significantly in 2008, to 3.8 per nine. He didn’t strike out a ton of guys last year, 5.3 per nine, but just bringing down the walks (and hits) pushed his ERA below the 4.50 mark to 4.42. The Rays thought they were selling high by dishing him to the Tigers for Matt Joyce, but it’s clear now that the Tigers got exactly what they wanted in the deal.
Jackson has thrown 121.2 innings this season, and they’re the best 121.2 of his life. His ERA sits at 2.42. He’s struck out 7.2 hitters per nine innings. He has the lowest WHIP in the league, owing to his new fangled walk rate — 2.6 per nine. He’s also allowed just seven hits per nine, a category in which he leads the league. He pitched well against the Yankees earlier this year, allowing no runs through six innings. The Yanks bats were patient, though, running his pitch count up to 117. The bullpen promptly blew the game in the seventh, as the Yanks rallied for 10 runs.
Hope y’all enjoyed the Old Timers’ ceremonies. Now it’s time for some young dudes to square off.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Brett Gardner, CF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Melky Caberera, LF
And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain.
Maybe rest is all Joba needed, hopefully we’ll see an average fastball of 95 MPH or higher
We can only hope but I really want to see Joba make it to the 6th inning if possible.
Edwin Jackson, the first German born player in baseball history.
According to wikipedia, there are 27 German-born players
Oh my bad…….first black german born player in baseball.
that is almost certainly true. I think 27 sounds a bit high though….
I was more excited about seeing Moose on the mound than Joba. At least Moose still throws strikes.
Its a sad day when Yankee fans can’t get excited to see their young guy pitch. All we ask is for six innings of 3 run ball Joba. That’s it. Then you can go into the dugout and hang out with your buddies and do nothing for the next 4 days.
Did you bother reading the intro? Young pitchers struggle.
Yea, I read the intro. Like I said, 6 innings, 3 runs. That’s all we ask. I think after a long break he can give the Yankees a quality start. I think he’s had 8 of them in 17 starts, so hoping he can deliver one today.
I think we’ll get a few “Yeah Baby!” and fist pumps out of Joba today. The Yanks win another tight one via the walkoff.
Considering the Yankees are 0-10 versus the Red Sox, being only 2 games back is a blessing. If the Yankees can just somewhat turn it around against the Red Sox, the division is theirs. The Angels, I hope they crash and burn because it could be our only hope.
0-8 but I see your point. Had we won one game against them, we’d be tied with them right now.
so i guess you have decided to give the sox the next two games as well since last i checked i think it is only 0-8 so far.
Are they 0-10 vs. the Sox? I thought the Yanks were 0-8. I have tickets for the August 6th game vs. the Sox and if that game is already a loss I want to know before I go.
my bad guys, I thought I read somewhere they were 0-10 and I was just at camp away from the world for 2 weeks and I am just catching up on stuff. Sorry, my point pretty much still stands.
I can only hope Joba throws well today and we score enough of off Jackson to win.
I really though Posada wouldn’t catch today. First of all, it is Joba (I hope no one blames it on JoPo if he struggles). Second, he caught a day game after a night game yesterday and is catching again today.
Who won the Old Timers Game?
gene michael
The fans won.
I was going to say the same thing
Hope the Yanks score more than two runs today and the Tigers score less than one =D
Roy Halladay is kinda struggling but is getting our of jams. Jays are winning 2-1
I’m gamecasting that one, and it doesn’t seem like Lester is on top of his game either. just walked Scutaro on four pitches to lead off the third
Yea, I am too. It’s his 3rd walk already.
i think the YES gun doesn’t pick up breaking balls, so they just flash some random mid-90s number
oops…meant to make that a separate comment altogether. not sure how that ended up here
I am watching the game on NESN ” I know I will shower asap” and is that Jim Kaat announcing the game?
It sure is.
It’s a pleasure to listen to him announce games.
That’s good.
Hm. No Swish in the two hole? Jackson may knock the bat outta Gardy’s hands. With the way Jete’s been getting on lately, I would have liked Swish there.
So this is gonna sound weird, but I have this odd superstition–I NEVER watch the pregame. Ever.
Any of you guys have an odd pregame ritual?
Must have the Yanks site open in a tab before the game and throughout the game…this only started recently.
Oh and no ESPN whatsoever during pregame before the game. In the beginning of the year when we were struggling, I had ESPN open. And if I didn’t, everytime I went on it, the Yanks would promptly allow a run or fail with RISP (and the exact opposite would happen to the Sox). So I dont even want to take a chance now.
actually the first one is that important to me as nothing really happens if I dont do it. But the 2nd one is really important to me.
*first one isn’t
Just pray to Ganesh.
Hehe nah I’m not Hindu…BTW, everytime I pray, I add a Yanks prayer in there everytime.
The many arms of Vishnu are open to all Yankees-themed prayers.
It never hurts sending a shout-out to Ganesh, no matter your religion.
Heh yea
I pray every single night.
My very first prayer? I ask not to have a nightmare.
That’s actually how I started–I was getting nightmares, really bad ones like every night. So I started praying and asked not to have one.
Sometimes it works.
Note to Yankees:
You can’t act.
Oh great, Michael Kay is back.
Am I the only one who thinks Kay needs to chill out a little bit?
No
I just love YES’s “scouting reports” that aren’t really scouting reports.
He certainly is moving faster
Joba’s bringin’ the heat so far.
Joba’s looking a lot better.
90, 91, 93 and now 96
The YES gun is worthless. Joba’s curve is 93, CC’s change was 94 yesterday, you know they doctor the gun, but this is ridiculous!
I think they just don’t pick up breaking balls and flash some random mid-90s number for them
Sure, but you’d think with the YES budget they could fix that up, wouldn’t you?
Working faster…walk’s still a walk…
Oh boy, cmon Jobber get out of this.
Double Play ball…
Come on Joba.
Still 90-93 mostly, ugh.
Great job joba
23 pitches is too many but Joba had a nice pace that inning.
well, he got out of it but it took 23 pitches.
not very economical, but unlike the last couple of starts, he made the pitches when he needed to
Still too many pitches, but better. Polanco put up a good fight and one of the best hitters in the game hit a broken bat blooper.
True…but starting off 1-2 and then walking him is frustrating.
Of course.
More frustrating: a hit on 0-2 or 1-2 or a walk after being ahead 0-2 or 1-2.
I think I asked Mike this before. He said that the walks are more frustrating as the batter has to earn the hit himself.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Hey, he made good pitches. Polanco can’t be struck out. You foul enough of ‘em off, and most pitchers will throw four balls.
I’m guessing today it’s gonna be curveball for Joba instead of the slider.
Anyone else find the MLB.TV video freezing periodically while the audio runs smoothly?
Or just me?
Yeah, then the video suddenly fast forwards
try lowering the video quality
Yeah, I did, still doing it though.
Just what I like to see, the overhyped Jon Lester struggling again!
He’s not overhyped. Yes the whole “he had cancer” thing has been rammed down our throats enough, but he’s a stud.
That’s what I mean.
Yes, it’s sad that he had cancer, but does that mean he acquired superpowers afterwards?
come on Joba, you can’t walk the leadoff man
damnit, wrong place again
heh you’re missing your spots like Joba
That’s what you get for assuming, Kay.
That’s kind of great
Haha, Tex has mind control powers, as well.
Edwin Jackson, yet another example of why you should be patient with young pitchers.
How is that not an error on Anderson? I’ll never understand such scoring…
Tough sun, but I agree.
Well, that called strike 2 was a ball so that should’ve been a walk
Great, Goose in the booth. Get ready for B-Jobber nonsense.
Oh no, Kay even asks him…time to mute?
yup, there it goes
oh boy, leadoff walk…
14 strikes, 15 balls
You just had to go there, Kay.
Boooo Goose B-Jobbin it!
its all about Joba’s demeanor. Hughes obviously doesnt have Joba demeanor thats why he’s currently sucking in the bullpen..
lol exactly.. i guess Mariano should’ve been a starter after all.. he certainly doesn’t have the demeanor and intensity to be a big time reliever
Wow, three straight games with a balk.
Bob Davidson, FTL.
is that a record or something?
this is great
“UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Forgot to mention this before. There is a dark hallway outside of the offices used by Joe Girardi and clubhouse manager Rob Cucuzza. The only adornment on the blue wall is a large Yankees logo. It’s right in front of the entrance that the players use.
Rob came up with the great idea to have the current players — along with the Old Timers — sign the wall with a silver marker. The rule is that only Hall of Famers can sign within the logo.
Rob and his staff had all the former players sign today. It’s a tradition thy hope will last for years. “It’ll be famous after a while,” he said.”
yea, I just saw that. That’s pretty awesome
like my beer pong table from HS. LEGENDARY!!!
well, not that pretty but I’ll take a I’ll take a 11 pitch inning.
somehow in my mind i had this vision that Michael Kay would not be returning at all to the booth and Singleton could take over as the permanent play by play broadcaster. o well.. sucks to be us
I don’t like Singleton as the play-by-play guy. But Bob Lorenz was pretty good!
why not? what’s not to like about Singleton? he’s clever, knowledgable, not corny.. he’s certainly 10 notches above Kay
I don’t know, I just don’t like his play-by-play style. I like him as a person and as a color commentator though, most of the time.
Joba may still be struggling, but he gets it done. Now let’s see 1-2-3 inning Joba!
When will Swish start hitting at home?
never
Does anyone else under 40 or so (who didnt watch him pitch, is what I mean) kind of…dislike Goose?
Besides the B-Jobber thing, he’s one of the most insufferable of the Joe Morgan “Back in ‘73, and then I went blah blah blah ‘77 was a great year…” kind of guys. Plus his whole “respect the game” trope…
wow, Goose has a really neat signature
good idea to give the green light to Matsui.. he’s swingin’ a good bat lately
Not going to lie, that bit about Kay’s scorebook being on eBay after the game was pretty funny.
Did Kay take a voluntary vacation or was this the mandatory kind?
I wish he’d do us all a favor and take a permanent vacation.
i love how all the B-Jobbers justify their argument by saying that Hughes should be in the rotation and Joba in the pen “where he belongs”, despite the fact that Hughes is pitching better than even Joba did when he was in the pen in ‘07..
wow, nice play
Damn, nice turn.
i think joba should add a cutter and a two seamer
he added a 2-seamer and apparently, JoPo thinks its his best.
well he should use it more
Bad Robbie
Can’t blame Cano for that, it was a nice play.
it was a GREAT play..
Bobby Murcer’s wife FTW!! good to have her in the booth
yea, I cant watch, Im following Gameday.
Is it me or has Robbie been a part of many good plays/bad luck this year? A bit too many it seems
Can’t blame him for that. He hit it hard, Polanco made a nice play.
Damn, I thought that would squeak through.
damn…we’ll be seeing that one again later tonight
We miss ya Bobby.
geez.. full count on every hitter
3-2 SL1DER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
note to Joba: stop walking the leadoff man. thanks.
Ack, again a walk after being well ahead in the count.
the pitch before the walk looked a little bit like a cutter
I think Joba might be tipping his pitches. These hitters look like they EXPECT the slider and just even if it bites well, they just lay off of it because they know it’s coming and it’s gonna break out of the zone.
yeah i always wondered how they lay off his slider
I wonder how much of that is that he just doesn’t get enough pitches in the strike zone therefore the batter doesn’t have that doubt as to whether the pitch thrown either nips the zone or falls out of it.
thats what I thought too
velocity being down as well.
Joba should definitely learn how to throw a cutter from Mo.
Mo = Yankee pitching coach after he retires. That would be amazing.
word. that guy is the posterchild for perfect mechanics
well, then he should be a ST instructor. He cant be pitching coach because he cant really help with other pitches like the curve and slider and stuff. For shame.
No it wouldnt because Mo has never been able to teach anyone teh cutter in 10+ years
i think joba should also have the mentality of the bullpen when he starts. his current mentality is not helping him conserve energy and go deeper into games
let’s see.. 0-2 count on Polanco.. anyone wanna bet this goes to 3-2?
THANK YOU JOBA!
Mercer’s wife is a cougar. RAWR.
According to Wikipedia, Bobby and Kay were high school sweethearts? So she is about 60 as well? Unbelievable, she looks like in her 40s.
Straight gas.
nice K. Also, the Blue Jays just tacked on an insurance run. 3-1, top 7
that game is going by really quick
Halladay and Lester will do that.
If it were Halladay-Buehrle, the game would already be over.
95 striking out a great hitter. thats what i wanna see
you’d think with all the money and resources the Yankees have that they could come up with some sensible radar guns. Joba throws a slider and it comes up as 94? LOL gimme a break already..
it has been doing that all damn weekend. every breaking ball is getting fastball readings.
Posada throwing fail.
no harm, no foul
So apparently someone gave Joba a talking to…
nice inning for Joba.. Bobby Murcer’s wife, AWESOME! what a great spot
i love kay murcer.. miss bobby too
Well, he got ahead of the hitters this inning. That’s encouraging.
Joba = clutch when needed
Damn, JoPo’s 5th error already but thank god Joba got out of it.
she seems like a really sweet woman. i feel really bad for her and the murcer family
Agreed.
Halladay has 83 pitches through 7
thats awesome considering he had a lot through 2 or something (at least for him that was a lot)
Against the greatest team ever assembled.
where else can you find depth like nick green, mark kotsay and rocco baldelli?
Joba doing a lot better. That song that Kay said about Bobby was funny.
Doesn’t Swisher know that walks don’t count? What is he thinking?
just clogs the bases and puts the other team in position for DP
I thought Joba would be fine when they were going through all those Joba games throughout the season. He is doing a great job today.
Swish, you gotta start taking advantage of right field someday, it’ll help your OPS a lot.
But I’ll take walks, especially when you begin 0-2 on that AB, anyday too.
Jackson did his own 0-2 to walk.
wait wait.. u mean Joba’s not the only pitcher in major league history to do that??? impossible!
That Polanco can pick it.
i hate placido polanco
fuck placido seriously
Is it me, or does Joba pitch well when the Yankees do not have any runs/leads. It always seems like Joba can not hold down a 4 run lead, but can keep the opposing team from scoring when the Yankees haven’t scored either.
I doubt it. Though it would make a little sense as he is young and can lose a bit of his focus.
its just his last two starts that are in your head. in his last 15 starts he gave up 4+ runs twice so hes not blowing 4 run leads every game
ughh.. double play.. the ultimate buz kill of life
I hate double plays from out offense, damn Jackson is getting off hte hook.
one of them is Dontrelle
and Matt Treanor
joba is maddening to watch, but i think he’ll be better next year cuz he will learn from this year, the expectations will be somewhat tempered, and his innings will go up
Wow, good trivia.
Leiter, Farnsworth and Pudge are three.
Mitre?
and Dontrelle
Ack, Leiter was in Florida in 2005, not 2006.
clete thomas?
really?
Oy.
shit
Clete freakin Thomas???
Hanger.
geez, that was launched
joba’s stuff is so good, his curve ball is 94 mph
on a side note, Doc being Doc. goin’ for another complete game victory
Chip Carey is hard to listen to.
I actually blame him for the Yankees losing the 2007 ALDS.
ahh damn, I go to the bathroom and return to see a HR
I got up too. I think I’m gonna have to stay seated for the remainder…
my rule is never to leave for a break until AFTER we pitch and get 3 outs.
Good comeback by Joba. Nice K.
at least he rebounded to the next hitter. and our offense is never out of it
Well, it would be hard for the Yankees to win a game without even scoring one run anyway…
C’mon Yankee offense, you saw a Detroit batter take advantage of the rf wall, you can too!
I don’t know if that was taking advantage of the short porch
good to see velocity is up there
yeah really. on the corner black too. his velocity and control are very good today
Nice job rebounding from that homer.
One run in four innings isn’t bad. Offense needs to do it’s job now.
this seems like this is his best start in a while in terms of velocity, control, and rythm
You dont gotta throw 95 if you can locate it like your doing today re: Alfredo ACE
Great inning Joba (besides the homerun)!!
Joba will go 6 maybe 7 today for sure.
WTF, these creampuff pillows in the commercial are $199?!?!?!?
Notice how they didn’t actually say the price.
No, they did say the price on the commercial!
We’ll see what the next two innings bring, but the Thomas bomb aside, this is easily the most encouraging Joba start in a bit.
Solo home runs will almost never kill you. They can get this back
I missed the first inning but I like what I’m seeing from Joba today. Especially his recovery following that homer.
Considering the past couple starts, “like what I’m seeing” = tears are streaming down my face in beatific joy at his performance.
If he can work two more clean innings, it’d be awfully encouraging. I tell you, after the Thomas bomb, the way he just went after Inge and then strutted behind the mound for a second, that looked more like Joba Chamberlain than anything I’ve seen in a long time. But let’s see innings 5-6.
This is too easy so far for Edwin Jackson ..
the don zimmer moment really was something
an A-bomb! from A-rod!
i wonder if verlander will bitch about that shot
That’s the only ball that has been hit hard.
He’s such an unclutch piece of shit.
it only tied the game, he should have saved that swing for when someone was on base
A-Rod is so unclutch
Boom goes the A-Rod.
unclutch or just padding stats? I can’t figure it out.
why not both
Boom. Headshot.
wow, that pitch was a really good one and he still hit it out
Ugh, bandbox.
Fuckin Unclutch Bastard that A-rod!!!!!
A-ROD YOU BEAUTIFUL BASTARD.
Dude, give this guy rest whenever he needs it. He is ridiculous!!!
and somewhere, Justin Verlander is NOT smirking…
that was great
A ROD I LOVE YOU!!!
A-Rod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZZZZZZ Alex is back
Stop with those silly statistical facts Kay, we all A-Rod never hits a homer when it matters.
Yea, my eyes are more accurate and they tell me shrinks into the size of Pedroia in the clutch.
A-rod really needs to quit baseball.
/Scout who spoked to Onley’d
Alex is only five home runs off the league lead
with 100 less ABs
why would they walk matsui twice? we all know he cannt hit a fastball over 93 mph
Posada will go deep here!
would be awesome…but I’ll take a walk too.
Jackson’s changeup is dirrrrrty today.
arod’s clutch every other year trend continues
52 RBI in 61 games. That’s freaking incredible that he can have 52 RBI that don’t matter at all. I’ve never seen someone be able to accomplish that feat. Just imagine if he actually hit when it mattered. lol
Imagine if he got that Grand Slam that was robbed…
CG for Halladay, can his stock be any higher?
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lol
and it’s a final. Halladay goes the distance and the Blue Jays win 3-1
halladay is excellente when we need him to be.
i love it
Who will beat the Sox when he’s gone?
Well, he won’t beat us either anymore, so I guess it evens out.
cano will ground softly to second now
How the hell was jason bay and all star and a-rod, who played one less month, not?
1) Bay plays for the Red Sox
2) A-Rod juiced liek omgzzz!
he was (and still is) the AL’s RBI leader (league leaders are popular. Hence Carlos Pena and Brian Fuentes making it over far more deserving players). Also, it’s a popularity contest
Cano Canu Beclutch?
Cano can be sawed off.
well that sucked
at least we got an A-BOMB!!!
i was wrong, he grounded softly to first
cano + risp = awesomeness
another groundout to 2nd with RISP…oh well, he’ll get it one day
* to the 1st but its still the right side of the infield
Holy shit, Greinke has seven complete games?
mlb.com says 5
he has 5
Dammit Lorenz, you’ve fooled me for the last time.
cano is soriano level frustrating in terms of lack of clucth and attentiveness
Well that’s ammo for Swisher haters.
He does this type of thing way too much.
damn swisha
who put Bobby Abreu back in RF??
swisher! (facepalm)
hahahaha damn swish.
That’s why we love Nick.
WTF was that Swish?
SWISHER. Stop trying to be cool and play serious for once.
Oy.
ugh
DP C’mon Joba! You’re doing great today!
That sucks, but is fucking hilarious at the same time, what was he doing?
Thought about catching it then tried to block but failed.
Grat play Swish!!!
swisher is an awful outfielder, no way around it. he’s really a 1B, he doesnt belong out there
He’s not a bad outfielder but he’s far from graceful out there.
no he is BAD
And how is that a triple? Looked like a single and an error to me.
What is with Granderson and triples?
boy that one carried a long way
97 MPH!
According to Gameday, Joba was down 91-93 for the first couple batters this inning, now up 95-97 for Polanco. Evidence that he’s learning to reserve the big velocity for big spots? Just speculatin’.
or a mechanical thing that my eye is not trained to pick up
Probably more likely… =/
he deserved it
95-93-97 to Polanco…damn HBP!!!!
Cmon DP please!
Call the media, Joba hit a batterrrr!
96 MPH on the breaking ball. Okay, then…
Joba thinks PP should choke up more
Oof, this is a jam.
Joba does get his share of groundballs, Kay.
There’s one. Now to get out your nemesis, Clete Thomas.
Whoops, forgot about Thames. *facepalm*
That was a huge out.
He was just setting up the DP in the most painful way possible.
Saving bullets.
and there is the fist pump
to teh pennnn!11!!1!
Holy fucker, Joba got out of the fifth inning!
JOBA WITH THE FIST PUMP BABAAAAYYYY!!!!
Finally a little emotion and velocity.
Oh no, the fist pump. Bush league.
ugh…a fist pump?? so busch league
havent seen one of those in awhile
Gas.