Game 95: Chance of game low (Updated with start time)


It’s dark and raining in Midtown Manhattan as a I write this a little before 6 p.m. The weathermen are predicting rain all night, and I’m not so confident the Yanks are going to get this one in. To that end, I’m not going to give you much of a game thread.

If the game happens, the lineups are below. If (when) it’s rained out, we’ll post an update, and this can be the evening’s open thread. Either way, we’ll be back with DotF after the game.

Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Hinske RF
Gardner CF

Sabathia P

Update 9:14 p.m.: The Yankees have just announced that they will attempt to start the game at 9:40 p.m. Eastern time. Here in Brooklyn, the rain is starting to pick up again.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Tank the Frank says:

    Open thread?

    Erin Andrews looks spectacular naked.

  2. Charlie says:

    Should i drop andre ethier and nate mclouth to get bobby abreu and jayson werth?

  3. Bob Stone says:

    Looking at the weather radar maps, there is a “window”. But it doesn’t look big enough to get the game in.

  4. Charlie says:

    CC AJ Joba Petitte HUGHES. i don’t care what you guys say, i still have hope

    • Bob Stone says:

      I agree. I’m concerned about the rotation after Joba reaches his innings limit. At that point, we only have three starters. I don’t understand why it isn’t imperative to get Hughes back into the rotation. I’ve never been a B-Jobber but wouldn’t it make sense to flip Joba and Hughes at some point to limit Joba’s innings and still get some value from him and build Phil’s innings at the same time?

  5. Tom Zig says:

    so the Sox are pursuing Adrian Gonzalez…any thoughts on what it cost for them to get that done?

    • Mike Pop says:

      Buchholz and Lars would HAVE to be in the package, I assume.

      • pat says:

        buch, larsa nd one of the bullpen… masterson/bard/delcarmen.

        • Mike Pop says:

          I think 2 of those fellas in the bullpen. He’s just so cheap and he’s so good. Not to mention if he gets real hitters hitting with him, probably could be better… if you believe in protection in the lineup.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Bowden, Buchholz maybe Lars Anderson? I really don’t know, just spouting out some popular prospects they have. Anyways I also heard LaRoche could be a trade chip though I find that unlikely.

    • cookie monster says:

      i assume it would start with buchholz

    • Jacob says:

      A ton; would the Sox really part with two of Lars, Bowden and Bucholz then a couple lower guys with some potential. Casey Kelly maybe?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Should be a shitload. He’s young and signed dirt cheap (owed just $11.75M through 2011). Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Ellsbury is a start.

      • Jacob says:

        I’m not sure I would trade Adrian Gonzalez for that package.

        • Mike Pop says:

          One future “ace”, a solid 2-3 in Bowden. Not to mention they will be in the NL West, even better. I’m not a huge fan of Ellsbury though.

          • Jacob says:

            I mean it’s not a bad offer, one that would certainly merit some consideration, however considering how cheap Gonzalez is I say keep him and try to build around him. No reason to really trade him right now unless the Pads just get blown away, and while Bowden, Bucholz, Ellsbury, Bard is good; it doesn’t blow me away.

            • Mike Pop says:

              Eh, I think trading him for 2 guys who can be huge for that rotation makes them better. I’d rather build around those two for the future than A-Gon. They aren’t going anywhere in the next couple years, they really should of dealt Peavy when they had the chance but then again, I have no idea what they were offered. But if Peavy reaches good value again and A-Gon keeps it up, they could set up a whole franchise based on dealing both those guys.

              • Mike Pop says:

                And of course the other guys they get with Buchholz and Bowden in that deal.

                • Jacob says:

                  Yeah, I can certainly see that side of it. I just don’t see the need to make the move now. Adrian Gonzalez is young and cheap and certainly not holding them back. And yes, they should have moved Peavy (I bet they’d take that Braves offer now…). If it were me though, I’d keep Gonzalez for now, if they really feel the need to blow the whole thing up after they can move Peavy, Gonzalez’s value isn’t going anywhere.

                • Mike Pop says:

                  Well, every day less the team trying to trade for him can keep him under that, he is losing value. But, ya, I see both of our sides.

            • Salty Buggah says:

              Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Tacoby, Kelly, Anderson, and Tazawa?

              How about that? Seems too much…

          • Steve O. says:

            Klaw was really down on Bowden, like 4-5 starter at best. Yeah, Ellsbury isn’t anything special.

            Haven’t you heard, Buchholz is an ace, I think so and everyone else does.

            /John Henry’d

            • Zach says:

              even now I see Boston reporters down on Buchholz.
              Even Lou Merloni called Buchholz’s peak a nice #2, and very good #3 at the least.

              he said he’s very concerned over “rookie” mistakes that shouldnt be there at this point- the stolen bases, double steals, being affected after solo HR, the game speeding up on him and losing it. he said scout told him he could be dominate for 180 IP, but not going to be going 6-7 like #1 should

              • Salty Buggah says:

                Yea, I’ve noticed a lot of Sox fans want to trade him now.

                • Zach says:

                  although Yankee fans felt the same way after those 2-3 starts from Joba. But I figure Boston homers would be looking for excuses (Tom Caron said he didnt pitch bad in the postgame show) but Lou Merloni saying that shocked me. He also said just because Ellsbury is fast doesnt make him a leadoff hitter, and doesnt know if he’ll ever be one

      • Steve O. says:

        No, Bard’s the centerpiece for the Mauer deal. You’re going to have to plug in someone else there, padre.

        • Tank the Frank says:

          Mauer will be a FA after next season if I’m not mistaken. That happens to be the same time Captain America’s current deal is up. Mauer is going to be a Red Sox and we’re all going to have to get used to that fact if the Twinkies don’t man up and lock him down.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      There’s no way they should be able to swing a deal like that. San Diego’s financial situation may be a mess, but they’re not a farm club. Gonzalez is incredibly talented, and has an absolute bargain of a contract — Buchholz/Anderson/Bowden is a starting point.

      Seriously, though, if San Diego deals Gonzalez for anything less than appalling overpay (Lester/Ellsbury/Buchholz+), they should be contracted. That’s absurd.

  6. J.R. says:

    Double header Saturday?

  7. Tank the Frank says:

    Sounds like CashMoney will defininely try to kick the tires on some pitching.

    Washburn, Duschersheresherer, and Bannister would be my choices. I would be very pleased with either three. Some may not be better than other internal options, but I think what we’re looking for is pitching depth/; especially since Kennedy and Kontos went down and Hughes is in the bullpen.

  8. Andy In Sunny Daytona says:

    USA vs Honduros in the Semi-Finals of the Gold Cup. Who’s with me??? Let’s gooooooooooo.

  9. Salty Buggah says:

    While we wait for a potential game, here’s a Joe Morgan quote from his most recent chat:

    “It’s not like football. Football is segmented. Here’s a play, here’s a play. But baseball has one play following another.”

    And here are 2 more that show how proud he is of being in the HOF:

    “I’m looking forward to going to the hall of fame this weekend. I always have a good time and rubbing elbows with other hall of famers. I always have some good stories. Looking forward to sharing some with you next week.”

    “This Sunday Jim Rice and Rickey Henderson will be elected into Baseball’s Hall of Fame. I’ve been thinking about the future of the Hall of Fame. I’ve been thinking about it because I’m Vice Chairman of the board and a Hall of Famer. “…He is thinking about whether or not PED users BTW.

    The 1st is a classic though.

    • The Artist says:

      He didn’t say that as clearly as he should have, but plays in baseball are interconnected more so than Football. I’d agree with that.

      -For example, and pitcher with a crap fastball can throw it past a great fastball hitter if he sets it up with a bunch of slow breaking stuff.

      -A man on 1B opens up the hole between the 1B and 2B, so a walk opens up an opportunity for a hit.

      Stuff like that.

      • Salty Buggah says:

        Party pooper…

        Well, he didn’t say it like that even if he meant that so I’m still making fun of him for that.

      • Charlie says:

        you sound like you’re defending joe morgan…

        • The Artist says:

          I am. He doesn’t always stay up to date on individual players like he should, and he drives me nuts at times like everyone else. But he also knows the game about as well as anyone, and is better at explaining it than many other former players.

          Situationally, he can be great and a wealth of knowledge. Other times you wonder what game he’s watching. He has his strengths and weaknesses as a broadcaster, just like anyone else. Its a shame that he’s become such a caricature online that nobody seems to appreciate his positives anymore.

  10. Dorian says:

    I’m reading this old Hardball Times article on Phil Hughes and this dude was just Effing ridiculous in the minors.


  11. pollo says:

    Question for you guys:

    Why doesn’t Yes show Minor league games like AA or AAA? And what’s gotta happen for them to show it? C’mon if NESN can show some Pawtucket games now and then Yes should be able to show some Scranton games at least.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Tru, even SNY shows the Brooklyn Cyclones games. I wanted to watch them vs Staten Island tonight but the damn rain! I’m seeing them on Monday vs the Renegades so that’ll make up for it.

      I would love to watch Montero or A-Jax once in a while though,.

    • Drew says:

      Please please, one thing at a time. Let’s get a radar gun, then we can worry about broadcasting some minor league games.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      Well they dont even have a good radar gun so how can you expect MiLB game from them? Though they would be nice even if I dont get YES here.

    • The Artist says:

      I agree, I wish they would. I’m sure there are a bunch of rights issues involved, but YES could certainly use more content.

      • Tom Zig says:

        Yankeeographies and Yankee Classics are nice, but really we could use some minor league games interspersed between them. The only thing worse than listening to Jon Sterling is seeing Jon Sterling on TV

  12. sac says:

    any word if they will play tonight

  13. Ivan says:

    It just shows ya how good of a move by Cashman of signing Teix and gettin him away from the redsox.

    Despite being 8-0 against the yanks, they would trade that 8-0 for Teix rite now. Not to mention there offense has struggled and now are trying to trade for Gonzalez and must pay for it by giving up preminum talent away rather just spend the money alla the yanks with Teix.

    Yanks signing Teix>0-8 VS. Sox.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      Well s we also have Tex for 8 years while that 0-8 is only for now.

    • Steve O. says:

      I don’t know about that, If they were 0-8 against the Yanks, the Sox would be 18 games back. 18. Out of contention.

      • Ivan says:

        Yeah but to fair, what are the chances that either team goes undefeated in 8 games? Unlikely.

        Teix would of been a huge upgrade especially considering Lowell and Ortiz is shot.

        • Steve O. says:

          Hold on, you said they’d trade their 8-0 record against the Yanks for Teixeira. Then you said what are the chances that either team goes undefeated in 8 games.

          I’m sorry, but you gave me the circumstances and I respectfully qualified your assertation.

  14. Salty Buggah says:

    I really hope we can get a game in today as a DH would be horrible for us because we have a long stretch of games. Tonight is already a make-up game and if it gets rained out, we may have to see :gulp:…Kei Igawa.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Kei Igawa?

      :head explodes:

    • Charlie says:

      why would we see kei igawa? ivan nova? aceves? we’ve got a few capable spot starters. i don’t want a double header, either, but it wouldn’t be igawa.

      • Salty Buggah says:

        Probably not Ace, we might need him as a long man one of the games if we need one as we might be low on relievers. And if we use him as a starter, he cant be used for four more days and his pitch count wont be 100 either, so our relievers would be burnt on one day and would put in limbo for the next couple of games. Nova, I’m willing to try.

      • Steve O. says:

        ‘May’ is the key word. It very well could be Aceves, Igawa, Nova, or Hughes, or whomever. All things considered, we don’t know, but we know Cashman values the bullpen highly and may choose not to mess with Hughes and Aceves and Nova’s development as he’s only had three starts. So Igawa for one start may not be completely out of the picture.

        • Steve O. says:

          Three starts in AAA that is.

        • Mike Pop says:

          I know people burn on the bullpen and all, and I do agree that a starter is more valuable than a reliever. But the thing is, you have alot of trouble winning without a solid bullpen. I don’t know if I’m okay with Hughes in the pen but without a solid pen, the Yanks arent going places.

          • Steve O. says:

            Yes, one spot start by a mediocre pitcher >>>>> upsetting the balance of the bullpen.

            • vin says:

              Agreed. I could live with the Kei man making a spot start against Oakland if it keeps the pen in order.

              • 27 this year says:

                I think Nova is the best option since you want to protect him after the season from the Rule V so you might as well add him now. I don’t think it would hurt him to pitch on game against the Athletics and maybe things work out well. Just no Igawa although, Igawa hasn’t pitched in the majors for like a year and a half so maybe he got a little better.

  15. Earl Riley says:

    Anyone hearing or reading much. There’s nothing much on the blogs or on MLBTR.



  16. Salty Buggah says:

    LOL…some commentator on Fangraphs article on the Buehrle perfecto said that he is not impressed by it because Buehrle is “unlikely to maintain a .000 babip in the long run”

  17. Earl Riley says:

    Anyone hearing or reading much about any deals. There’s nothing much on the blogs or on MLBTR.

  18. JobaJr says:

    “Over/Under” Damaso Marte ends the season with a 5.00 ERA.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      Can you Over/Under that? That’s a YES or NO question.

      I think you are asking O/U on his ERA at the end of the season…

      That’s tough, I’d like to say under but I dont know how much time he’ll have playing this year. So, just because I hope so, I’ll say under.

    • Mike Pop says:


    • vin says:

      Under – with Coke being the lefty who can go an inning plus, I’d be Marte will be used mostly as a LOOGY. I think that role suits him best.

  19. The Artist says:

    Here’s the Dewayne Wise catch, for those that haven’t seen it 1000X yet.


    He was put in for defensive purposes in the top of the 9th. How cool is that?

    • Salty Buggah says:

      yea I noticed that too and though a the same thing

    • JGS says:

      four amazing things:

      1. he sat on the bench for 8 innings, and that was the first batter he saw after coming into the game.

      2. the amount of ground he covered to even get to that ball

      3. the perfect timing of the jump and getting a glove on it

      4. not dropping it when it came out of his glove

      you know when Buerhle saw that he was thinking “wow, I’m really going to get this”

    • Steve O. says:

      Dewayne Wise’s range = Brett Gardner’s range.

      Is your mind blown?

      Hold on, I mean Carl Crawford’s arm = Dewayne Wise’s arm.

      There. That’s much better.

  20. So, I know this is probably a little ill timed considering his Yankeeography is on but looking at Catfish’s numbers, he looks a tad overrated. I mean, he had 8 seasons with an ERA+ over 100 but he also had 7 UNDER 100.

  21. yanke1313 says:

    Brackman 89-91, touched 92 in the 1st inn, cb 74-75, softer bite than in college

    -Ben Badler

  22. Hobs says:

    Brackman getting crushed. Greensboro just put up a 7 spot in the 2nd.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      Lovely first round picks these last couple years. Hopefully Heathcott can be patrolling our OF in 4 years.

      • Steve O. says:

        The Yankees knew what risk they were taking when they selected him with the last pick in the first round of the 2007 draft. Gerrit Cole wasn’t going to sign. So I’d say it’s a wash.

  23. Dela G says:

    the perfect game was awesome to watch

    • Manimal says:

      I only saw the 9th inning while I was running at the gym, I almost tripped on the treadmill when I saw the catch in the 9th

  24. If the Yanks get Roy Halladay, it’s just not fair.

    But if the Red Sox get Adrian Gonzalez, that would be tremendous.

  25. Manimal says:

    Anyone else surprised that the Rays were no-hit? They were just ranked 6th on the ESPN Power Rankings and have the second best OPS in the league with a .803 (Yanks are first with a .826)

    • JGS says:

      It makes it more impressive for Buerhle, but good pitching always beats good hitting and he had the stuff and the luck today (and Dewayne Wise).

      Johnson pitched a perfecto against a Braves team that won 96 games in 2004

    • They’re at or near the top of the AL in most offensive categories, are are a MILE ahead of everyone in steals. So they can score runs different ways.

  26. The Artist says:

    Holliday for Wallace looks likely.


    How good is Brett Wallace? Anyone familiar with him?

    • Mike bk says:

      would be a dumb move imo for a 2 month rental.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Wallace is a top prospect who may eventually have to play 1B. He’s not destroying the minors, but he’s putting up solid numbers.

      If the Cards trade him, they better be convinced that he can’t play third, because they’re really gonna need a lefty-hitting 3B soon.

    • Jose says:

      He has an interesting build. He is far from being a gold glover at 3B. His success comes only from his bat.

    • In two seasons in the Minors, all the way from A-AAA, he’s put up the following line:

      .308/.392/.469/.861, 19 HRs in 627 PA at 3B.

    • Mike bk says:

      also wouldnt call a report that says “mild, for now,” as likely not to mention asking to pay both on Holliday’s salary and part of Wallace’s signing bonus probably makes it less likely.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      I hope they don’t get Matt Holliday because with thier pitching, they could be deadly in the postseason. They could probably still make the playoffs without him but I dont want them to.

      And I’ve heard Wallace is pretty good so that makes an AL team like the A’s better for the future.

  27. The Artist says:


    “UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: The rain is letting up. Tarp is still down. They’re going to wait this out, seems like.”

    I’m not staying up night to watch the A’s.

  28. pat says:

    The movie hellboy 2 is on now.. I never had an ounce of desire to see it before, but it’s a pretty good movie. The fight scenes are pretty sick.. HOLY SHIT PLOT TWIST! SHE STABBED HERSELF!

  29. Manimal says:

    You think the Yanks would trade for Kazmir? His 6.something ERA is very bloated and he is signed relatively cheap

  30. BigBlueAL says:

    Boy Mike aint kidding, that definitely is not the same lady in that ad to the right. Before and after my ass!!!!

  31. So, should I drop Nick Swisher in fantasy?

    (Matt, don’t kill me. We can talk. Really.)

  32. JobaJr says:

    Just call the ‘effin game already…

  33. VO says:

    August 20, and September 10, are the only corresponding off days. The Yankees visit the A’s the days before the 20, but in Oakland.

  34. BigBlueAL says:

    9:40 start time!!!

  35. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So there’s gonna be baseball and Fios got fucked up somehow. Great…

  36. Drew says:

    I was hoping for a 1030 start time. Gotta make an airport pickup in 2 hours. I guess I’ll have to follow the majority of the game via John and Susan… Ugh

  37. JGS says:

    damnit, I was hoping to get a ticket for the doubleheader tomorrow

  38. OmgZombies! says:

    Damn DirectTv you sneaky bastards. I had no interest in the MLB extra innings package but now after the past few days with the free preview. I want it!

  39. Bob Stone says:

    Looking at the weather radar map on wunderground.com and this storm is moving slow. New York City is almost clear of the storm. If it just moves a little more east we can see some baseball tonight, but it keeps moving NNE.

  40. Jose says:

    Oh the A’s. Anyone remember when people were predicting them to win the AL West this year? There is a 0.07917% chance that happens now.

    • Zach says:

      the genius billy beane with sean gallagher for harden, signing giambi, cabrera and ellis, trading for holliday so he can get 8 prospects in return, and having 4 rookies in your rotation

      • Jose says:

        Sometimes I wonder if Billy Beane sits in his lair sipping Brandy and counting his prospects. He likes to horde them and shout at his scouts about Moneyball and how he is going to be in a movie.

  41. JGS says:

    Actual gametime attendance over/under: 10,000

  42. AndrewYF says:

    Anyone see this article?


    “Right now, if we didn’t do anything and we had another problem, we’d be taking Hughes or Aceves out of the bullpen and into the rotation,” Cashman said. “It’s as simple as that. That’s been talked about internally and externally.”

    So Hughes is an option to go into the rotation if the Yankees have a starter go down. Unless I’m reading it wrong.

    • The Artist says:

      Yeah, sort of. What I think he’s saying is they need to make a move for a starter. They’re happy with Hughes/Aceves where they are.

    • gxpanos says:

      This is Cash’s way of saying he is looking for a starter.

      BUT. If he can’t find one, and Mitre starts pitching poorly, we might see Philly in the rotation.

    • Zach says:

      he’s not going to say: oh shit if we lose someone i need to go trade for someone- other GMs can read internet articles too

  43. Riddering says:

    Nothing like the sweet smell of rain-delayed Yankee baseball showing up on my internet. *breathes deeply*

  44. Dela G says:

    let’s go yankees!

  45. Bob Stone says:

    ESPN.com accu score preview today had the Yank’s chance of winning this game as 74%. That’s the highest I have ever seen that number. Not that it guarantees anyhting.

    • Dela G says:

      the rays had a 62 percent chance of beating the rangers a couple of weeks ago on sunday night baseball

      they lost

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