Game 95 Spillover Thread II with Wang update
ByAs the Yanks and the A’s play late into the night, the Yankees have issued an update on injured right-hander Chien-Ming Wang. The erstwhile ace was scheduled to throw tomorrow, but his shoulder has not improved since he shut it down earlier this week. And so the Yanks and Wang will now consult with Dr. James Andrews.
To be clear, Wang isn’t getting checked out by Andrews. He was seen by Dr. David Altchek earlier today, but the Yanks want to consult with Andrews before releasing the results and establishing a rehab plan for Wang. The worst-case scenario is, of course, surgery which would probably knock Wang out for most, if not all, of 2010. It’s amazing to see the cascade effect of one Lisfranc injury and some obviously bad mechanics from Wang.
Anyway, the game continues as the Yanks have put up a four-spot in the fourth. We’ll have more on Wang tomorrow morning.
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ok, I totally called 4 runs last inning
i did too
Yeah, and uh so did I…
now CC, you got your run support, make this shit happen
DO WORK
That’s certainly bad news. Lack of a healthy Wang puts lots of pressure on Joba/Hughes to step up, or they’ll have to bring back Pettitte/acquire someone else.
Man, that depth disappeared quickly
Depth always does. Unfortunately, here I’m talking about the 2010 rotation. CC/AJ/Joba/Hughes/some other guy has massive upside potential, but it could also get ugly. A healthy Wang in there makes it much, much stronger.
Healthy Wangs always do.
Who’s 5 now? Nova, Z-Mac, the Duke, a trade for another pitcher?
Sucks, if he was 07/08 Wang, this team could be so much, much better!
Boston’s depth is deep they have, and generate more of, an unlimited supply of cy young worthy arms.
The Yankees are mailing this one in.
/Mike Axisa’d
lol
This game was over at 8PM.
Oh Boy, Mike you’ll never live this down. You’re a part of new RAB meme.
hey salty, are you wearing any pants?
/axl’d
Hehe still funny.
Oh get bent.
Why, was that comment “uninspiring”?
Ahem…
http://riveraveblues.com/river.....uidelines/
if Wang needs surgery do they non-tender him?
No no no no no no no no no no
/Zohan’d
Come on CC….I can think of 161 million reasons why you should be pitching better!
TO’s publicist?
You watch his show?
Rather watch paint dry.
Hahah.
OK, CC 3 runs is already enough…do not give up any more runs and shut em down for 3 more please.
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July 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 pm
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July 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
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ietc.
hahahaha
Lets go CC.
nice out there cc
Whatever happened to IPK? Didn’t he come back from his surgery? Boy it’d be nice to see him back.
Him and his 91 MPH fastballs? Please, bust.
Wrong. Hughes had the 91 mph fastballs. I don’t even think IPK cracks 88 (he couldn’t even get the Delorean going)
Lol, well FWIW the most recent thing I found is that he was rehabbing in Scranton but…that was June 22.
Aneurysm recovery takes a while, he’ll not see the majors this year but will def be in winter ball.
Oh ok thanks.
Surgery on the circulatory system takes a while to recover from.
We had an IPK update earlier this week. He’s throwing off of flat ground but won’t be ready to rejoin the Big League club at all this year. He’ll be in the mix next year after he throws in Winter Ball.
IPK reminds me of a younger, less effective Mike Mussina. Doesn’t throw all that fast and relies on hitting spots and corners.
He hasn’t looked that good in his short stints up here, but he absolutely obliterated the minors. That has to be a little more than hitting spots, no?
Mike Mussina was actually quite the fireballer in his prime.
http://community.thetimes-trib.....ontos.aspx
‘The last I heard about Ian came from Newsday a couple of days ago. Brian Cashman told Newsday that Kennedy is on schedule — maybe even ahead — and could begin pitching in minor league games before the end of the season. He seems fairly certain to pitch in winter ball, which makes good sense.”
Get Halladay, minimize the damage by taking Wells, it would be doing a huge favor for them by eating that contract as only the Yankees can
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Wells is god awful and has an unreal amount of money left on his contract
Think about this, his performance is similar than Tony Womack. Yes Tony Womack.
He makes Barry Zito look like he is under a cost controlled and team-friendly contract.
haahahaaa I dont know if I’d go that far, but yea they are probably the two ugliest contracts in the game
Wells:
2010:$12.5M
2011:$23M
2012:$21M
2013:$21M
2014:$21M
TOTAL 2010-2014 COMMITMENT: $98.5M
Zito:
2010:$18.5M
2011:$18.5M
2012:$19M
2013:$20M
2014:$18M club option ($7M buyout)
TOTAL 2010-2014 COMMITMENT: $83M (assuming club exercises 2014 buyout)
dude not even the yankees can eat wells’ contract. this line needs to die, he’s signed through 2014.
98.5 MILLION DOLLARS 2010-2014
Y-I-K-E-S. YIKES!
We would literally have to give them the whole team in Scranton AND Trenton
Can’t we just give them the Pirates?
Even if the yanks wanted to absorbed Wells contract (which they wouldn’t) the jays want top flight talent for Halladay period.
The Jays rather be stuck with Wells and get back top flight young players rather than release Wells contract to somebody else for players of not of high caliber or potential.
Taking on Wells maximizes the damage.
What if Toronto chip in $30M of the $90-100M remaining?
His career OPS+ is = to Torii Hunter who at an older age got 5/90
not in terms of prospects, if they understand what the Yanks would be doing for them….thats kinda what put me on this tangent to begin with, getting rid of that contract should be the biggest concern they have, and they should be using Doc to do it, because there is no other foreseeable way they unload wells. It wouldnt be my money…
I agree here… if Cash can get Halladay and Wells without losing Montero, Joba, Hughes and even Ajax you’d be negligent not to look at it.
Financially, you could get Toronto to take on 6M per year 10-14. He is only owed peanuts this year…
Of course this would constrain further moves in the offseason but with Halladay-CC-AJ in the postseason 2 rings can happen
This is not hyperbole: Attaching Wells to Halladay deal in which the receiving team gives up a lot of prospects makes the deal a very bad one for the team getting Halladay.
Wells has far too many years and too much money left. He’s not a throw-in a la Mike Lowell in the Beckett deal. He’s a real albatross, and Ricciardi isn’t going to be able to package the two together and still get anything back for Halladay.
You’re absolutely correct. But owing Wells $20M per over the next 5 is killing the Blue Jays and that need may trump the need for prospects. That’s the dilemma
“This is not hyperbole: Attaching Wells to Halladay deal in which the receiving team gives up a lot of prospects makes the deal a very bad one for the team getting Halladay.”
Co-sign.
this is now a game where CC has to take control.
I thought the A’s don’t steal? Thats 2 tonight already
Davis should be out, the throw beat him to the bag!
IETC.
See now thats complete bullshit. The 1st 2 balls to Hairstson were strikes that were given to Mazzaro and the 1st one completely in the zone!
Thank god CC still got out of it.
Thank
godMo CC still got out of it.Oh yea my bad. I will now punish myself and ask for forgiveness and watch this game all over.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.....id=4987593
I couldnt find the one in which AJ blew that big lead…so painful just thinking about it.
Ugh, that A.J. start killed me.
Me. Too.
But thanks to the good Mo, I’ve recovered mostly.
Hairston, you mad?
CC does not have his ACE stuff tonight!
What is an ace? What is a number 1 pitcher? 2? 3? It’s all pointless.
/Rob Neyer’d
IETC.
What a catastrophic year for Wang. All from running the bases in what is essentially a novelty game.
THIS IS THE REASON I HATE INTER-LEAGUE PLAY!
Spoken like a true fan, who’s Wang was broken during inter-league play.
Fernando Nieve got hurt wen he tried to leg-ot an infield single for the Mets, so it’s not just interleague play.
You’re right. National League play.
yeah… thanks, douche selig.
I would like to see Hughes pitch 2 innings tonight…….well at least for my B-Day.
Which Contract is worst, Wells or Helton couple years back?
are you kidding? helton has been incredible
wells looks like a a slick fielding david ortiz
Everyone does incredible in Colorado.
Latroy Hawkins’d
Hitters do well in Colorado, but pitchers? No. Hawkins was an anomoly.
Jason Marquis!
Right… Argh. So, Hawkins and Marquis.
Although a good half-season for Marquis and 1 good season for Hawkins doesn’t really mean much.
Wells, easy. He never really hit except for one or two years, and his defense has deteriorated immensely.
Helton is still a Gold Glover at first, and he’s OPS’d below .880 just once in the last twelve years, and that was last year when he was hurt.
Wells, hasn’t Helton been pretty productive overall?
Wells. At least Helton is hitting .325 or something with .420 OBP or something like that.
Helton gets too much hate. OBP still over .400, still has double power, not the 30hr power anymore but still can get 20
Just hit his 500th career double last night. Third fastest to that mark in history. He’s one of 7-8 players with at least 300 HR, 500 2B and a .320 AVG.
His 2000 season was just ridiculous.
103 XBH and 405 total bases. Coors or not, that’s stupid good.
Guys like Ruth, Williams and Musial.
interesting HoF case.
He’s one of only two players with 100+ XBH in a season twice. Gehrig is the other.
agreed, althoug his home/away splits arent too great, he plays 81 games at coors so if he was anywhere else with that contract it probably would be considered much worse.
See, I really don’t know how to rate him. He’s obviously a good hitter, but I’m not quite comfortable putting him in elite company because he’s compiled those numbers in Coors Field.
(Side note: his Baseball Reference sponsorship states that he’s “the greatest hitter of our generation.” Sure guys, maybe if you’ve never heard of park effects.)
His league neutralized career line is .301-.401-.528.
Sure guys, maybe if you’ve never heard of park effects.
Or Albert Pujols.
Or Frank Thomas. Or A-Rod. Or Manny Ramirez. Or . . .
Wells. Helton’s deal isn’t horrible for the production he has given. His deal is kind of like Jeter’s. You are overpaying not only for production but also for him to be your franchise player.
Helton has been worth $117.7 million since 2002, while only being payed $106.2 million by the end of this year since 2002. The Rockies have gotten their value over the years.
Back to dirty Jerz, you schlub.
Yes, and take Vito, Don, Mikey and the rest of the Jersey Shore with you.
Jeter’s best Swisher impression.
The SS Mazzaro is taking on water
I love second half Tex
Tex!
Tex gets shit done.
It’s almost like the yanks pulled a Rope-a-dope on Mazzaro
That’s what they do.
I guess Tex is a heatin’ up.
Boo-ya bitches…
Cmon A-rod…at least a sac-fly.
He pulled a Swisher. Intentionally made an out so that he could let his teammates have some glory. Only Swisher can take the selfishness out of A-Rod
so unclutch
BOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!
i love how we got tex
i love this man a lot
like a lot
those last 2 strikes were so inside on gameday…complete bullshit!
Man I was so wrong about this team. I thought that they were going to pack it in.
can this damn stop giving that inside call please?!
The umps want to get the game over with.
yea! there it is again to JoPo…CC needs to start throwing there and see what he gets
Twist the knife, please.
I’d like a season where both catchers hit a GS.
no DP JoPo!
those last 2 strikes were not strikes according to game day
Itsabasehit!!!
this team cannot hit rookies! the pack it in after rain delays! only 1.5 game up!
/fans in first 3 innings
I know Cano is getting crushed for his struggles with RISP this year. Now, if I had told you in March that thru July 23rd Robbie would be sporting a .310/.343/.493 line with a 117 OPS+ and 14 HR’s while playing a very solid 2b, wouldn’t we all have stood in line to sign up for that?
No whammies, Cano.
Mazarro needs to go to the pen. Can’t get past the 6th inning. Puuuleeaze.
Cano will go BIGGGG
GS
GS
GS
GO CANO!
Getting crapped on in front of your family and friends — I like it.
no DP CANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know there’s one prick in that crowed that’s gonna say “U suck man”
It wouldn’t be baseball without those guys.
These “passing of the baton” base hits are really grinding my gears. Strings of clutch hits don’t win ballgames TITANIC, MONSTROUS, HOMERUN, DINGERBALLS DO.
It’s amazing to see the cascade effect of one Lisfranc injury and some obviously bad mechanics from Wang.
You forgot weak legs, brought on by poor off season work based on awful advice from the 1.5 billion dollar organization.
awful advice from doctors?
The advice came from doctors.
Cano is sooo due..
I think he gets a big hit here.
Does popping out to catcher count?
Cano has to come through now due to variation, right? and its not THAT close of a game now. Let’s see if he can shine this time…
Nope
unfortunately nope.
posada
i love you
man i loved getting a crowd like that at my basketball games, must be awesome to get that at yankee stadium
You’re a peach, Cano. Take a pitch? Nah, why. Let’s swing at one in on the hands off the plate.
He’s so damn frustrating. He could learn a thing or three from his double play partner.
Then again, how many players are going to be Jeter?
That’s a sorry ass AB Cano.
It’s also an eminently familiar one.
well, that was sucky
OK, now I think it’s official. Cano is horrible with RISP. I’ve been on his side supporting him when he didn’t come through. But he really does struggle in those spots. It’s not variation now.
’06 RISP: .306
’07 RISP: .290
’08 RISP: .263
’09 RISP: .209
maybe this year is just a variation?
makes sense. Didnt even think about the different years, how stupid of me. But Im talking about this year, he definitely hasnt had good ABs this year with RISP.
he has sucked with RISP this year. he also was bad in the first half last year so dont know the split on his RISP from last year.
I’m not going to go through all of the numbers now, but his numbers with runners on, RISP, RISP w/ 2 outs and the bases loaded are all significantly worse than his overall numbers each year. If you compare those numbers to his numbers with nobody on, the difference is even more stark.
Plus, I’m not one for going solely on what I see, but it can’t be debated that Cano looks completely different in those situations, i.e. he goes up flailing at everything. And that doesn’t just go for this year.
Here are the numbers:
2009 Overall: .311/.343/.492
2009 RISP: .209/.244/.313
2009 Bases Loaded: .235/.250/.235
2009 RISP w/ 2 outs: .194/.237/.292
Note: Cano’s numbers with the bases loaded were worse before he made that last out tonight per ESPN’s splits, but after he made the out, he got credited for a hit. So it is likely that his bases loaded numbers are actually .178/.222/.178
2008 Overall: .271/.305/.410
2008 RISP: .263/.294/.359
2008 Bases Loaded: .286/.292/.381
2008 RISP w/ 2 outs: .295/.313/.410
2007 Overall: .306/.353/.488
2007 RISP: .290/.333/.441
2007 Bases Loaded: .250/.278/.313
2007 RISP w/ 2 outs: .250/.310/.463
2006 Overall: .342/.365/.525
2006 RISP: .306/.335/.500
2006 Bases Loaded: .300/.318/.450
2006 RISP w/ 2 outs: .259/.302/.469
2005 Overall: .297/.320/.458
2005 RISP: .210/.241/.363
2005 Bases Loaded: .150/.143/.300
2005 RISP w/ 2 outs: .207/.233/.310
ok, so 2005 he struggled as a rookie, last year he had a horrible first half so im guessing his numbers are affected by that, and this year is horrible yes.
hes bad with bases loaded, also only has 95 ABs with bases loaded, give him 5 more hits with bases loaded and his career BA with bases loaded is .297
Are you looking at different numbers and not seeing that his numbers in these situations are significantly worse over his career than his overall numbers for those years? That means that his numbers with nobody on are even better than his overall numbers.
I don’t know what else you want to see. I like Cano, but it’s impossible to say that he doesn’t have issues in these situations.
I see the numbers, where did i say he didnt have issues with risp? I also dont expect every hitter to hit .350 with RISP
I see a whole lot of excuses and “ifs.” If the Queen had balls, she’d be the King. And if a few more balls dropped in with nobody on, those numbers would be better too.
Just look at the OBPs up there. He’s allergic to walking in those situations because he’s hacking like there’s no tomorrow.
its not excuses, when you have a sample size with bases loaded where just 5 hits can add 50 points to your average i dont get all worked up over it
Well, all four of those years his overall BA was higher than with RISP.
You can’t like the way those numbers are trending.
i need the splits for last years because he was bad the first half so that has to have an affect on his numbers
Ok, Cano, next time you come up with the bases loaded, just take EVERY SINGLE PITCH. It’d be better than watching you flail away at shit.
BLOWOUT. BLOWOUT. BLOWOUT.
Well, damn.
Speaking of heckling, there should be a book on “the art of heckling”.
That would be pretty cool.
Should have gotten at least one more there but oh well.
OK CC, nail em down!
I love that Francessa commercial. “If I don’t say it noone will.” Maybe that’s because noone should say it because it makes no sense at all.
I once played a drinking game with friends, we all took a drink at each Cano swing out of the zone. Long story short, I woke up with no pants on in South Beach with legal documents saying I’m married to a goat.
http://instantcrickets.com/
Pot calling kettle black….
Heh, somebody’s gotta do it.
Wow. Sure give it only 30 seconds on the page and post that link instantly. haha
The scary part is we have been married for 2 years now and she still yells at me when I call her a goat.
All in good fun and jokes.
Nah I got you. I lose my touch as it gets later.
RANGE!!!
Look at the positives in Cano…didnt GIDP so…PROGRESS!
WHERE’S THE RANGE ALEX!
hes a first baseman playing third
/olney
He’s a glorified DH
/even more Onley’d
alright CC lets turn it around and shut em down
Arod clearly wanted to prevent jeter from making a glorious stop and jump throw to 1st.
Wat a dick.
I guess shit does even out. Cano showed range and help CC. While A-Rod showed none and didn’t help CC. Interesting.
Who wouldve thought 10 years ago we would be saying “Nomar hits a groundball between Jeter and Arod”
who would have thought out of those 3 Jeter would be the last one playing SS?
NO ONE!
Likely the only one who didn’t juice and didn’t have the body type change the other 2 did. But your right, not that we saw that coming.
Nomar the FIRST BASEMAN hits a groundball between Jeter and ARod.
Cano should be hitting 9th. Hes a black hole with runners on.
You shouldn’t be allowed on blogs. You’re a black hole with comments.
there would still be runners on…
Let me preface this by saying that I know Robbie is one of the better 2B in the league and we are better off with on the team. That said, he drives me absolutely fucking bonkers! He is the most aggravating Yankee in recent memory. With just a little bit better approach he could get so much more out of his talent.
what the hell are green mountain coffee k cups?
K cups are for use in the Keurig single cup instant coffee brewing machine
Kenny Singleton should of said “no homo” after he said “I like it when you think pitching”.
The way Cone should of said “no homo” with Kennedy and getting “jerked off” lol.
that would be funny
Haha Singy just professed his love for Leiter a little bit…”I love when you talk pitching”
it’s what happens when you spend time in the booth with people…
I’m starting to think of Cano’s AB w/RISP as though he’s a catcher. “Well, at least we have his defense!”
Not a bad call there.
I know Cano is getting crushed for his struggles with RISP this year. Now, if I had told you in March that thru July 23rd Robbie would be sporting a .310/.343/.493 line with a 117 OPS+ and 14 HR’s while playing a very solid 2b, wouldn’t we all have stood in line to sign up for that?
Yea but the greedy me would’ve wanted a little higher AVG or OBP but yes that is good.
His OBP is lower than JD Drew’s, but we both (all) know who is having the much better season.
Sure. He’s obviously a good player and a key contributor. But, fair or not, it so often seems that he could be *more* of a contributor if he wasn’t Johnny Hacks-a-Lot. Especially with men on base.
Wow Tony Pena leads the AL in K’s win 120. Didn’t know that.
Carlos my bad.
i was going to say.. tony pena’s back in baseball?
Not surprised, he’s prone to the whiff.
Heh, thanks joe morgan. A guy who’s prone to the whiff is leading the league in K’s
/I keed I keed
//hopes he’s not banned
///has always liked mike the best.
If the worst problem we got is our #7 hitter being terrible with RISP we have to accept it and roll with it.
Is that truly the worst problem with this team though?
Well, see, I don’t think that’s their worst problem. Their worst problem is the pitching depth.
I’d just like to note for the record that you just gave a pessimistic response to an optimistic Lanny comment.
I’m not quite sure how to react to this. My mind is blown.
http://www.dolland.net/lovelin.....dumdum.mp3
(Audio, so probably NSFW)
Heh… Here’s a blast from the past: http://tinyurl.com/n8kmm6
Nice.
93% Dont know who Montero is.
Wow! Lot of ignorant people out there need guidance…We need missionaries.
I just don’t get Cano. Is it super difficult to get a better approach? His ability to make contact is great, fantastic, wonderful–but he should only bust it out with two strikes. He just needs some damn patience.
Furthermore, it seems like it’s in his head, and that’s when adjustments mean nothing. He’s just got to get lucky a few times and start on his way back, I guess. Frustrating, because there’s a .330 hitter in there.
Really? Jesus and AJax were tied for last? Do the majority of Yankee fans even know who they are?
I think I know who Jesus was. Guy who used to do stuff with water and wine? Wasn’t Ajax a cleaning solution popular a few years back?
Never heard of him. I heard a guy DeJesus, does that count?
And I’m pretty sure AJax is short for a jacks when someone hits a HR.
Actually being in last is okay but seriously 7 percent? Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28missionary%29
Ajax was a missionary who converted people. It all makes sense now, that’s why he and Jesus are the future of the Yankees.
The best Ajax.
1. no they dont
2. its process of elimination
3. someone has to be last
Perfect World:
1. Joba Chamberlain: 25%
2. Phil Hughes: 25%
3. Jesus Montero: 25%
4. Austin Jackson: 25%
CC is having a very Pettite-esque start. Hopefully he can hang in there through the 7th…
On a completely different note… I live out in the Bay Area, and I found it hilarious that every AM sports station reported all day that the A’s had today off and will start a 3 game series with the Yanks on Friday.
It just shows how irrelevant they’ve become. All they talk about is what moves the Giants should make to reach the playoffs. Oakland is a complete after thought.
Maybe they get back on the map once Cahill, Anderson, and MAzarro become the great pitchers they should become. Another big 3.
I got home today and was like “Great, I can watch the game at a regular time for once” then mlb.tv was blacked out
I get the extra innings package, and for some reason they blocked out both the MLB network feed and the YES feed. I’m watching it on the local channel. I don’t understand this stuff sometimes…
Jesus with 7% of the text poll. Coincidence? I think not.
Had it been a papyrus poll he would have won!
/leaves.
Jeter singles here with bases empty…
and he does while I type that.
no DP Johnny.
If those fans in that poll ever boo Montero when he comes up, I will rip their heads off.
they should intentionally walk Tex to face the guy in steep decline
hey rab crew havent posted in a minute with new job which is at nights… finally enjoying a game on a day off. did anyone else notice that we have a sponsor for the “official hospital of the new york yankees” sign? i find that hilarious.
I know the Mets have an “Official Window Supplier.” That made me laugh when I first saw it.
though that was more borderline and not completely inside but that similar to A-rod’s called K
i have to admit, i never thought id have even made it this far into the game. MO bless Allaghash Brewing Company and their magnificent White Ale.
Well today’s friday folks.
DOUBLEHEADAAAH!!!!!!
Carsten always seems to get stronger as the game goes on.
well, when i said it was time for him to take over this game before? he obviously was reading RAB, and took it to heart.
CC is a horse. Little worried about the drop in K-rate, though.
Assuage my fears before I piss my pants, please.
CC is teh suxor!!!!
Go piss yourself.
I’m not saying he sucks, or he’s going to fall off a cliff, so chill out.
Just his strikeout rate is trending down, and that’s typically not a good thing. Perhaps it’s a blip? He is getting less swings and misses overall, per Fangraphs.
Sorry, I know that’s not what you were saying. I was just saying that he in fact does suck, to make you piss your pants, as I would find that amusing.
Yea, that does seem like a concern. I wonder how his GB rate has changed as he said he learned a 2-seamer after is struggles last year.
Hmmm, his GB% is 4% lower than last year too. Odd but his ERA is in line with his FIP.
Assuage? Is that some kind of bad sausage?
i think that means ‘without sausage’
I thought it was short for Ass Sewage.
that pitch by CC just wasnt fair, at all.
I think I’d rather see Swisher in left than Damon at this point.
CC you do know it’s Mark Ellis rite.
Aceves for the 2 inning save?
Mo was unavailable Thursday, its now Friday
I thought James Andrews was a legendary arm doctor.
Why’s he checking out a Wang?
Hopefully it isn’t anything more than a little stiffness. The Yankees really need a good Wang this year. That will help ease the pitching tension and may lead them to drinking champagne after the playoffs while celebrating with Wang all night. They wouldn’t trade a good Wang for anything.
. . . while celebrating with Wang all night.
wow that ball 3 was a clear strike
Good job CC.
Jesus H. Montero Joe.. let Melancon pitch. 3 run lead. You’re going to regret using Hughes/Mo/Aceves/Coke every single day in July.
Word.
Wow! He really settled down after a shaky start. He had like 21 strikes and 15 balls after the 3rd. Now he has 71 strikes and only 38 balls. Brilliant!
Hooray CC!!
how about sponsor’s for pitcher’s starts?
This start by CC Sabathia is sponsored by …
yankees are finding new ways to find money every day…
At least it’s spent on Tex, AJ and CC and then subsequent luxury taxes, unlike other owners.
Another day, another dollar
Anyone watching Conan? Zach Galifianakis is hilarious
Remember when our bullpen had more than three guys?
remember looking at the other guys numbers?
did anyone see how the defense was brought to you by mercedes benz?
as an audi driver, i say screw that
However, houston has an Alex Rodriguez Mercedes Benz, and my dad bought a car from there because a-rod part owns it
I knew he owned one there and I’ve always wondered, does he actually show up there anytime? And I wonder if his business went when he admitted to using PEDs while in Texas.
he shows up once a year to drum up sales, but his business has been booming since it opened. When my dad bought the benz in january, he had to wait until june to get it because the a-rod dealership was cleaned out. They are probably in a little bit of a downturn, but they are the 2nd best MB dealer in houston in sales i believe
I used to have an A4. Damn fine machine, wish I still had it.
i’m sure nothing like my 2008 hyundai elantra, but not all cars can be so perfect.
i have an 06 A6, i love that car very much.
then again, i had to work for 3 summers to be able to afford the first 2 years payments, then i got me a steady job to pay the monthly payments ever since
Hughes for two?
I wonder if Girardi will use Hughes for two to close it out. Mo’s worked a ton lately, and it’s not like he’s a 38-yr old coming off fairly major shoulder surgery or anything.
I think Pete said earlier that Joe said that Mo was out tonight. Hughes for 2 to close?
I just hope that he doesn’t automatically go to Hughes any time it’s a relatively close lead like this. Hughes and Mo are great security blankets (and thankfully, Mo is getting the day off), but as Joe Torre showed everyone, that doesn’t work over the course of a whole season.
Hopefully, there’s a blowout or 2 coming for the Yanks so that they can get Melancon, Robertson and Bruney some more work.
I will PAY for a blowout at this point just so Robertson, Bruney, and Melancon can get some work.
phil hughes cannot be used with this frequency. it’s like scott proctor – but better – and in the 8th inning instead of the 7th. can’t we trust robertson? his era is pretty decent. why only trust ace, coke and phil??
robertson: 16BB in 22 IP
valid point. still – this bullpen management style is torre-esque. Yeah I said it. I trust you, you and you. The rest of you can go screw yourselves.
yeah well ride the hot hand. i dont need to see drob come in and walk the first guy he faces
Ugh, come on Joe.
Girardi, Melancon says hello?!
apparently, he does not.
So, if Mo’s unavailable, who closes tonight?
phil’s last two cutters have been disgusting.
91 mph Cutter! Usually its 88
One day, Girardi is going to send out Hughes who has a bad night, when our other guys haven’t pitched in 10 days…
Phil Hughes doesn’t have bad nights. Not even to see how they feel
A-Rod to Tex. One 1B to another.
So can D-rob or Melancon get work anytime soon? When we’re gonna be forced to use them, theyre gonna be all rusty.
Theryre not bad but just had bad outings. A 3 run lead is enough to get them work.
Nice Curve!
hughes in for 9th?
how did that ball 1 to Nomah miss? damn inconsistent ump.
let hughes close it in the 9th like they should have yesterday.
9 pitches for Phil The Reliever. That was one batter for Phil The starter
eh oakland hasn’t been very patient today.
I fucking love the new patented Robinson Cano Running Floater he throws to first base. That is such a ridiculously hard throw to put on the mark (Teixiera.. LOLZ) while sprinting in the opposite direction.
Hehe
Nice D there.
no K’s = BUST!!!!!!!
Ah Santiago Casilla. The pitcher formerly known as Jairo Garcia.
He was sick nasty as Jairo Garcia in MVP ’05 for PS2. My closer for ten years, I think.
So who’s Joe going to send out for the ninth? He said Mo was unavailable, but he’s stretching.
The only bet I’d take is: NOT DRob, Brunedog, or Melancon.
Sigh.
How many more runs would the Yanks have to tack on in this inning for us to see anyone but Mo, Hughes, Ace or Coke?
87?
Well I’m torn between Hughes for the 9th or Melancon/D-Rob.
Well Casilla has a high ERA so can we get at least one more run?
there ya go Melky! Now bring him in Jete.
Botching a play like that? Rajai Davis is a bench player.
Oh wait, he is.
Damon-like defense.
Hes no Dewayne Wise…
Why is Coke warming up?
really? you gotta be kidding me! Cant we save one of out good relievers for a closer game?!
Because Joe Girardi’s decided that, hey, he did TOO good a job with the BP last year, and was nostalgic for the Torre years.
They need a few blowouts to put a halt to the Torre-like bullpen management. They can’t expect Melancon and Robertson to come in after 2 weeks off and expect anything from them.
do you want Hughes available for tomorrow?
So he went to Hughes in the 8th up 3 and he only threw 9 pitches. If that was too many, why would you use him in the 8th there? Why not try to get through the 8th with someone else and then go to Hughes in the 8th or 9th if there are real issues? Maybe you could get a day of rest for Hughes in that case. Now, they’ve used him for 9 pitches in the 8th and they’re going to pull him?
agreed if no matter what you were using hughes for one inning let him close it in the 9th and try to get D-Rob or Melancon through the 8th and have coke backing them up.
Why Phil Coke?
The place looks more empty than Citi Field in september.
bad jete/gardy…cmon Melancon/D-rob
Guys, Coke is an experienced MLb closer, this is a by-the-book decision.
IETC.
Girardi is clueless. Damn Shame.
Melancon and Robertson really need to get some work in if they want them to contribute. Put one of them out with someone going if things start going downhill.
My only kvetch of the night!
why let things get that far? 3 run lead after a long ass rain delay, dont screw around just get the game over with
well then what happens is you get to a point where your top guys are dead and you have to use relief pitchers who haven’t gone in 2+ weeks. you may remember this happening during the last manager’s tenure.
i think risking it against the a’s is tolerable.
and our last manager also gave us 4 championships
What about the Yankees “mailing this one in”?
hey i just said they were old and wanted to get to bed, i guess they got coffee in them between innings.
Oh shush.
I think I get what Girardi’s angle is: every close lead needs to become a win in this close a playoff race.
Right now, we just have had a lot of games with close leads lately. At some point, we will be behind late in the game, and the other guys will get work then. But for now, every game we have in our sights must become a win.
Coke/Aceves/Hughes/Rivera for leads.
Robertson/Melancon/Bruney for losses and huge leads.
Lets score 20 runs tomorrow.
I understand but still need to get them work because you cant use the same relievers as Girardi has that often because if they are overworked they will struggle and/or get injured and a day will come when they might not be available and he will forced to use rusty arms. But I understand what you’re saying. As long as we win, I’m not complaining too much.
Unfortunately, this was how Torre managed and the Yanks’ relievers were toast by the end of the year. It’s great in theory, but when it comes to the actual arms of relievers, they get shot.
By the way, he’s doing the exact same thing in LA this year.
Oh, I don’t agree with the philosophy. But I think I finally understand his thought process.
Hughes for the save! =D
Guys, good news, I solved our pitching problem. Hideki Irabu has been pitching in the Golden Baseball League for the Long Beach Armada. He has a 3.86 ERA in 51.1 IP and 59 SO. He becomes this year’s Ponson. Thoughts?
why not just resign Aaron Small? he is younger
and less of a fat toad
Now Aceves is up? Is he trying to dry hump them all? I honestly just don’t know what Girardi’s doing. I’m not trying to be a dick about it, I honestly just want to know what his thinking is.
bitching about moves hes not making?
That’s the point, warming a guy up is still getting him up and loose. Those are still pitches thrown by the pitcher. Relievers hate getting dry humped. I understand it’s not always avoidable, but he’s done it to Aceves twice tonight and Coke once. If he was going to let Hughes pitch 2 innings, it never made any sense.
Really? WTF! Now im pissed
Animal
Now I know whats it must have been like to watch hughes in the minors.
PHIL HUGHES IS A FUTAH CLOSAH!
No strike outs for Hughes. Bust.
not a future closer like bard
Also, I know we don’t like to hear excuses for under performance, but I really think there is something to guys in the bullpen getting rusty without getting work.
What’s worse it creates a negative feedback cycle:
1. Bullpen guy gets rusty because of lack of work.
2. Bullpen guy pitches poorly in his first game in 10 days.
3. Girardi is disappopinted by performance and thinks he can’t trust the guy
4. Bullpen guy gets even rustier waiting for more work that won’t come.
5. Lather, rinse, repeat.
But hey, things are pretty good when you are complaining about the lack of use of your second tier relievers.
bruney has sucked since he got off DL because lack of work?
drob has 16 BB in 22IP because of lack of work? because he BB9 is the basically the same in the majors as the minors
melancon is the last arm in the bullpen so hes not going in during a 3 run lead in late inning
usually less of an issue unless, like right now, you play 7 straight close wins
COULD WE PLEASE STOP THE GIRARDI BASHING FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. THE HORRIBLE MANAGER OF THE BULLPEN HAS THE TEAM ON A 7 GAME WINNING STREAK AND THE BULLPEN HAS A 1.88 ERA DURING THAT TIME.
That ERA could be lower. Fire the pitching coach. I’ve had with him, he doesn’t know what he is doing.
I understand why they’re arguing though. Those guys are gonna be rusty while the other guys are being overworked.
Well, sure. But you can’t ride guys like this for the whole season. Torre used a 4 man bullpen and he went through relievers’ arms like a lawnmower.
The team is playing great, no doubt. But this is a dynamite team that is going to be in the postseason. It would just be better if everybody could be healthy. People aren’t saying that this will definitely hurt them, just that they are not always necessary moves and they could lead to situations where arms are shot.
in 3 run games, you should only the guys you trust. not to put guys in to get them work or work out some things.
I don’t know if you’re being serious or not. Really? A 3 run game in the 8th or 9th is really that close? Is this really what the “save” has done?
If it’s for 1 inning, you could pitch to an 18.00 ERA and win. If it’s for 2 innings, you pitch to a 9.00 ERA and win.
If they’re always going to go to the textbook guys (Hughes, Coke, Aceves and Mo) in these situations, they’re going to be shot. Girardi showed a willingness to use different guys last year and he managed the bullpen masterfully. That’s all people are asking for this year.
3 run lead is close when DRob comes in and automatically puts a guy on first base. When Bruney comes in and sucks. And Melancon is unproven.
i dont get how they’re going to get shot.
Mo gets his 70 IP every year
Coke is on pace for less than an inning per appearance
Hughes is averaging 10 IP/month as a reliever, hes not geetting burnt out
Ace gets alot of multi-inning appearances, but isnt that what we all want? the next ramiro mendoza?
Drop the hook call it a night Phil.
He misses being a starter, and wants to throw more pitches.
IETC
Haha, “F*ck yall Ima stretch MYSELF out”
IETC to both of these comments
Im loving the Hughes chant to end the game.
On the A’s blog someone said put some runners on base to bring Mariano in and someone answered, “Yeah that’s a plan.”
The A’s fans seem like a good bunch. Not a lot of insulting of Yankees.
That’s a good quality. Some of those SB nation blogs are insane. We talk alot of crap about other teams but 95% of us don’t wish injury on the other team or unnecessarliy sh*t on opposing fans who venture through here. The braves one and orioles one are particularly vile. D-rays bay is like 4chan with their jokes and nicknames which is cool. Overthemonster for the most part is alright as long as you don’t make alot of noise. And REvHalo is an epic piece of shit.
NICE. Sorta glad I stayed up for that.
HUGHES!!!! No K’s so he’s like a fringe prospect as of now…
seriously, what a bust
The Yankees win!
I need to hold onto that thought for the alarm clock in a few hours.
2.5 games ahead of the sox, 6.5 games ahead of the rays, 4 games behind LAD.
4 games behind the LAD? Does that really matter? Or were they added to the AL East when I wasn’t looking? Torre that snake.
best record determines WS home field- oh wait this one counts!
now i am one of the phil to the rotation guys but i will say they did get him 6 innings of work in the last week so if they can keep that up the bullpen is fine as long as he is getting the innings.
agree
BALL GAME OVER
YANKEES WIN, THAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YANKEES, WIN!
7 in a row has never seemed so good
haha its only 1147pm, so i can go out and drink like a sailor after 3 sol beers
Leave daddy’s Benz in the garage
i live about 100 miles from home, my dad wouldn’t let me touch that car if my life depended on it
Ok… Leave Daddy’s Audi in the garage, then. (jk)
I just meant: Be safe, have fun.
Got me some Sol and half of a fresh lime right next to me. Good choice.
Its alright redsox, while you sleep, we creep further away in the standings. It’s nice that for once the pressure is back on them and they seem to all be playing like shit, possibly as a result of it.
as we speak Penny and Smoltz’s eras are going up
Their ERA, Papi’s cholesterol, and Pedroia’s tiny escalator leading up to his racecar bed.
http://site.steelcityauctions.com/swarsdon.jpg
If there’s ever reason to cast an actor to play Pedroia in a movie it’s gotta be Nick Swardson, right?
Hahah, I LOVE me some Nick Swardson. Gay Robot and the skit where he listens to his voicemail messages after blacking out the night before… HILARIOUS.
yea but they have the oh so scary adam larouche now!!! whatever shall we do?!?!?!?