Jul
22

Jews for Jesus (Montero)

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Jews for Jesus (Montero)

That gem of a sign comes from reader Dave Soberman, who was raising hell with his buddies at Saturday’s Double-A Trenton game. Here’s the email he sent us, which tells the story. Here’s a few more pics: Dave with the sign, the sign at field level, the sign with Bolt, Montero signing said sign, and Dave heckling poor Jorge Jimenez. How awesome is that?

Meanwhile, Baseball America’s John Manuel called Montero an untouchable prospect.

Triple-A Scranton was rained out, and Chad Jennings says they’re not going to even going to bother to make it up.

Double-A Trenton (9-4 win over New Hampshire)
Austin Krum, Jesus Montero & Marcos Vechionacci: all 2 for 5 - Krum tripled, drew a walk, scored a trio of runs & K’ed … Montero doubled, drove in two & K’ed … Vech doubled, drove in a run & scored another
Reegie Corona: 1 for 2, 1 R, 2 BB
Eduardo Nunez: 1 for 5, 1 R, 2 RBI, 2 K
Noah Hall & richie Robnett: both 0 for 5 – Hall scored a run … Robnett K’ed thrice
Chris Malec: 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB - 14 for his last 38 (.368)
Edwar Gonzalez: 2 for 4, 1 BB, 1 K
Ryan Pope: 8 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 7-9 GB/FB – picked a runner off first
Humberto Sanchez: 1 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1-1 GB/FB – allowed two jacks

High-A Tampa (2-1 loss to fort Myers)
Damon Sublett & Brandon Laird: both 1 for 4 – Sublett hit a solo jack … Laird K’ed
Kevin Smith: 2 for 4, 1 K
Everyone Else: combined 0 for 18, 4 BB, 4 K, 1 E – David Adams drew a pair of walks
Lance Pendleton: 6 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 3-6 GB/FB
Brad Rulon: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 2-4 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (8-2 win over Greensbor0)
Jose Pirela, Tommy Baldridge & Neall French: all 1 for 5 – Pirela drew a walk … French drove in two & K’ed
Abe Almonte & Taylor Grote: both 2 for 5 – Almonte tripled, scored a run & scored a pair of runs … Grote scored a run, drove one in & K’ed
Corban Joseph, Addison Maruszak & Chase Weems: all 2 for 4 – CoJo drew a walk, drove in two runs & scored two others … Maruszak drew a walk, scored a run, plated two & committed a fielding error … Weems drew a walk & scored a run
Melky Mesa: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 BB – first homer since July 5th
Cory Arbiso: 8 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 13-7 GB/FB – well then … golf clap
Charles Nolte: 1 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 2 WP, 1-2 GB/FB

Short Season Staten Island
Game 1
(3-0 loss to Jamestown in 7 innings) makeup of yesterday’s rain out … and there goes the ten game winning streak
Zoilo Almonte & Kyle Higashioka: both 1 for 3 – Higashioka committed a throwing error
Francisco Santana: 1 for 2, 1 K – had been 0 for his last 9
Everyone Else: combined 0 for 15, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 E
Arodys Vizcaino: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, 3-3 GB/FB – leads the league with 50 K, eleven ahead of the second place guy
Gavin Brooks: 2 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 3-2 GB/FB, 1 E (pickoff)
Game 2 (6-3 win over Jamestown in 7 innings)
Francisco Santana & RJ Baker: both 1 for 3 – Baker hit a grand slam & drove in another run as well
Hector Rabago, Neil Medchill & Justin Milo: all 0 for 2, 1 BB – Rabago was caught stealing … Medchill swiped a bag … Milo scored a run & K’ed
Luke Murton: 1 for 2, 2 R, 1 BB, 1 E (fielding)
Kelvin Castro: 2 for 3, 2 R, 2 2B, 1 RBI, 1 E (fielding)
Adam Warren: 5 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 6-3 GB/FB – picked a runner of second … 10 hits & 2 walks allowed in his last 20 IP
Mike Solbach: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 1 wWP, 1 HB, 0-1 GB/FB
Griffin Bailey: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 0-1 GB/FB

Rookie GCL Yanks (6-2 loss to GCL Phillies)
Eduardo Sosa, Jose Toussen & Yunior Tabares: all 1 for 4 – Sosa scored a run … Toussen missed a catch for an error … Tabares K’ed & committed a fielding error
Kevin Mahoney: 0 for 4, 1 RBI, 2 K
Kelvin DeLeon & Jose Mojica: both 1 for 3 – DeLeon doubled & threw a runner out at second from RF … Mojica drove in a run & K’ed
Ramon Flores: 0 for 3, 1 K, 1 SB
Nik Turley: 4 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 5 BB, 1 K, 1 HB, 1 WP, 4-6 GB/FB – where’d the control go?
Dickie Marquez: 2 IP, zeroes, 3 K, 2-1 GB/FB
Shane Greene: 2.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 3-3 GB/FB
Sam Elam: 0.1 IP, zeroes, 1 K – moderation is key

Categories : Down on the Farm

186 Comments»

  1. pat says:

    Dave clearly brought the awesome… Nicely done sir.

  2. Speaking as a Jew,

    I. WANT. THAT. SIGN.

  3. Rich James says:

    Thats classy folks…thats “Ron Burgendy” Classy

  4. 6 games and the starting pitchers as a group gave up 4 ER in 36 IP!!!!

  5. What material did they use to make that sign?

  6. Alex K. says:

    Mike, think Montero is going to start in AAA next year? Seems like he should but would that be rushing him?

  7. That is the greatest sign ever. Ever.

  8. RAB poster (perhaps soon to be known as Rocky Road Redemption) says:

    That’s great. Up there with “If I were an Ice Cream I’d be Rocky Road”.

  9. pat says:

    Sanchez, doin his best Bruney imitation.

  10. Moshe Mandel says:

    Yup. Us Jews can’t get enough of Jesus.

  11. Teix is the Man says:

    Who would you guys rather bulid your team around,Stanton or Heyward? I would have to say Heyward; it seems like he k’s a lot less.

    • Mike bk says:

      i would take heyward as well…seems to have a little more speed as well.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Heyward, because he’s a better all around hitter and such a better all around player. How that guy lasted until the 14th pick, I’ll never know. He shouldn’t have made it past the fifth pick.

    • I’d agree with that. Provided Strasburg signs, the top four prospects in the game next year are probably Strasburg, Hewyard, Stanton, and Montero in that order.

      • Teix is the Man says:

        Montero’s status is exactly why I don’t think he will be moved. Top 5 caliber prospects aren’t traded unless a team gets back a sure fire, can’t-miss, cost-controlled superstar.

      • Ivan says:

        I think you can make the arguement for Montero over Stanton. Montero plays a premium position and can match with the power and is a better pure hitter.

        Hey remember when people thought Villalona was a better prospect than Montero? lol.

        • Mike bk says:

          you cant make that argument with the questions if Montero would stay there. if he was a sure thing to stay at catcher he beats stanton and is right there with heyward for number 2.

          • Ivan says:

            Look while there question of him staying at catcher, he’s still a catcher right now nevertheless.

            Hey I would put Heyward over Montero but Stanton Vs. Montero I think u can make a solid debate.

            • Mike bk says:

              you dont rank the prospects on where they are now but where they project to be in the majors so if he is not projected to be a catcher in the majors its not the same.

          • Doug says:

            yeah, also in callis’ chat today he was asked why there are so many doubts about montero “growing out of the position” while mauer can handle the position at roughly the same size. his response:

            “It’s not that Montero will grow out of the position. It’s that he’s not very athletic or agile, not a great receiver and has a slow release. Mauer is MUCH better than Montero in every aspect of catching.”

            • pat says:

              Those things are true though. Mawa is one of the best defensive catchers in teh game.

            • If Mauer and Montero were the ONLY big catchers ever, maybe that would hold more water.

              They’re not.

              • Steve H says:

                Mike Piazza on the juice was a pretty big dude, and was bad defensively. His bat played at C, if Jesus can be 80% of Piazza, his bat will make up for the D.

                • pat says:

                  Piazza is listed as 6’3″ 197. Jesus is 6’4″ 225 at the age of 19.

                • Steve H says:

                  Yeah, do you really think Piazza is 197? The steroid era had some of the most deflated weight #’s, probably to try to avoid suspicion. CBS has him listed at 215, which is still definitely low.

                • Steve H says:

                  For comparison’s sake Cano is listed at 170 on BR, Jeter at 175, A-Rod at 190.

                  Wouldn’t trust the scales at BR.

                • Steve H says:

                  Oh and Gardner is listed as 180, so he weighs 10 lbs less than A-Rod……

                  A-Rod takes bigger shits than Gardner.

                • pat says:

                  No I’m sure he was bigger than 200 or 210. But when he was Jesus’ age I highly doubt he was that big. jesus is still a baby, he’s gonna get alot bigger when he gets his man muscles. I don’t care if he stays at catcher because of all the depth we have at the position. I just wanna see the kid stay healthy and chances are that means he moves away from C. I just wanna see him hit, I don’t care where it is. My basic point was that while he and Mauer are both tall, play catcher and will hit the shit out of the ball, that’s pretty much where the similarities end.

                • pat says:

                  I do enjoy your “arod takes bigger shits than gardner” line though, that’s funny as hell.

                • Steve H says:

                  I agree with you on Montero vs. Mauer. Like TSJC said, they aren’t the only 2 big catchers ever, so it’s a totally unfair comparison. Hell Tek is listed at 6’2 and 230 lbs, and he’s only the greatest defensive catcher of all time.

            • Accent Shallow says:

              There actually have been rumblings about playing C would adversely affect Mauer’s health long-term, and that if the Twins wanted to keep him healthy, they should think about him playind 3B.

            • Notice he specified “of catching”. I take this to imply that their offensive tool are comparable.

        • Teix is the Man says:

          Heh,what a joke that was; Montero was better based on the merit of his position.

        • Accent Shallow says:

          This was hilarious. Somehow much worse approach and results could be waved away by a 6 month age difference? When both of them were young for the league?

    • Ivan says:

      I’ll go Heyward. Better pure hitter and better plate disipline.

  12. Teix is the Man says:

    Will somebody please tell Francesa that it’s Jesus Montero, and not ‘that double-A catcha that eva’ryone laaves?’

  13. Steve H says:

    Simmons’ latest tweet:

    Clay Buchholz was so rattled tonight, it was like watching Christine Brennan try to backtrack from an indefensible Tweet.

    Nice to see one Sox fan without his head fully buried in Buchholz’ ass.

  14. Jake H says:

    Montero is a beast. I love how he is doing well as a 19 year old in AA.

  15. Riddering says:

    Whenever I’m feeling low I think of Jesus and I find the strength to go on.

    Can’t miss him in the Bronx, after all.

  16. Steve H says:

    Dave Soberman writes an email about getting “pretty drunk.” What a name, love the story too, classic.

  17. Faiaz says:

    Would a “Muslims for Jesus” sign get me beheaded?

  18. Accent Shallow says:

    What a ridiculous sign.

    Good to see Sanchez in action, although doing his best Bruney imitation wasn’t what I had in mind. Here’s hoping Pope can keep that up.

    Bummer about the minors: someone like Arbiso doesn’t get to finish that off.

  19. Faiaz says:

    Damnit, I am having so much fun this year as a Yankees fan…there are no worries in the back of my mind like other years. It’s such a wonderful feeling, I love the team’s chemistry. I thought we would lose something when Giambi left but A.J. an Swish is doin great for the personality of the team. #27 here we come…just have to figure out how to beat those damn Angels.

  20. Faiaz says:

    BTW have you guys seen the “beyond baseball” commercials with Mauer and Lincecum? They are friggin’ awesome.

  21. Observer283 says:

    As far as I know, Jesus has always been a big time high ceiling prospect.

    So far, rather than living up to those high expectations, he has actually surpassed them.

    He was great at Low-A Charleston last year and just flat out ridiculous in his time at High-A Tampa. That’s why he’s already at Trenton.

    Here’s where I am going with this: what if over the next few weeks, he continues to surpass the already high expectations we have for how he should perform at AA? In other words, what if he goes nuts during the month of August at Trenton? I’m talking really nuts: .340/410/550 nuts. Would the team consider calling him up in Septemeber?

    The reason why I bring this up is we have two relatively recent examples of young phenoms who flew threw the minors and contributed to teams that made deep playoff runs: Andrew Jones and Miggy Cabrera.

    I understand that Montero’s situation is complicated by the fact that his bat is so far ahead of his glove. I also understand that rather than going nuts in the month of August, it is also possible that Montero hits a speed bump and goes through a cold spell.

    But I guess this is a long winded way of setting up two questions:
    1. Is there any level of production that would force the Yanks to bring Montero’s bat to the Bronx this year?

    2. Do we think Montero is capable of reaching that level of production?

    Again, I know it is highly HIGHLY unlikely that this happens. But I just keep seeing October homeruns from baby faced Andruw Jones and Miggy Cabrera, and I keep feeling like its possible.

    • I would not be shocked–surprised, perhaps, but not shocked–if Montero was called up in September.

      If, however, he was, I imagine it’d be like when Jeter and Rivera were on the postseason roster in 1995–they weren’t up there to play, but just to get an idea as to what all the fuss is about.

      • pat says:

        I dunno about a callup, he’s not on the 40 man.

        • JGS says:

          easy fix–DFA Kevin Cash

          • You could also 60-day-DL Nady, which we still haven’t done. But, even if you DL Nady and DFA Cash to make two spots, they should be going to Nova and AJax first.

            In fact, AJax, Nova, and Z-Mac probably all deserve 40-man spots before Montero, all things considered.

            • JGS says:

              60-day DL for Nady and IPK, and so long Claggett and Cash

              that gets you all four

              • Accent Shallow says:

                They can’t 60-day Kennedy, since he wasn’t hurt in the majors.

                Ain’t that some [redacted]

              • IPK can’t be DL’d because he got hurt in the minors. He, like Chris Garcia, is stuck in 40-man limbo.

                And while DFAing Claggett for either Z-Mac or Montero is fine in the abstract, it’s probably a year too soon for either of them. No need.

                I say DL Nady for AJax this year to give him a September cup of coffee, give Nova a 40-man spot in the winter (since he’ll need to be protected and we’ll have more free spots), and add Z-Mac and Montero midseason 2010. We’ve got time and depth now, no need to get ahead of ourselves.

                • JGS says:

                  Q – If a player is on the 40 man roster, in the minors and is injured, does he get put on the Major League 60 Day DL while accruing service time? The rationale I think would be that if you gain the benefit of having the player temporarily off the 40 Man roster, you should be getting a penalty for using that benefit – i.e. the Service time.
                  - Pete

                  A – Good question. A player who is on option cannot be placed on the Major League 60 Day DL. However some teams in the past have recalled an injured player in order to place him on the 60 Day. This most often happens when a team is in a position to make the playoffs and is trying to create roster flexibility for the postseason. (The K-Rod Rule) Obviously the trade-off is providing service time and Major League salary to the injured player.

                  –Bart Given, former Blue Jays AGM, Inside the Majors

                  http://www.insidethemajors.com/?p=2305

                • JGS says:

                  the above being said, I agree with you that there is no need to bring all of them up in September. But if they wanted to, they could

            • Bruno says:

              Jesus will be 40man’d in the offseason anyway, unless he’s not Rule V eligible?

    • Faiaz says:

      Where would you put him?

    • V says:

      Given that there’s not much playing time in the minors in September, I’m all for an August 30th callup (roster spot be damned) as a bench bat (and he can work with Girardi and Pena every day in September).

      If he shows he can handle the majors in a bench/spot starter role, do you consider a playoff spot for him?

    • Chip says:

      He’ll get to come up and hang around the clubhouse during September but why bother putting him on the 40 man roster? I think they’ll continue to hold him back as much as possible and not allow him to become exposed. Andrew Jones in 1996 was a combination of him being great with the bat, an AMAZING defender and the fact that Atlanta didn’t have anybody better than him.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      I really, really doubt that the Yanks bring Montero up this year, short of him hitting .400/.510/.820 for the rest of the season. Probably not even that. The other issue is again, the glove. What’s he gonna do, DH? He’s apparently bad enough as a C to make Posada look like Molina.

  22. Steve H says:

    Nice to see Papelbon to come in and get some work because the Sox haven’t had a lead in a while.

  23. Ivan says:

    2 outs away from the yanks leading their respective division by 2 games.

  24. Faiaz says:

    Yankees in first place by TWO games.

  25. Faiaz says:

    awwwwww papi needs a hug

  26. [ facepalm ]

    No, Rick Sutcliffe, there hasn’t been a “change in philosophy” that explains the Rangers beating the Red Sox.

    The Rangers players got better. The Red Sox players got worse.

    Ockham’s Razor.

  27. daneptizl says:

    Mike, I think The Viz is at 41 Ks, including today.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Kevin Goldstein has said something along the lines of Arodys being the best non-Montero or non-Jackson prospect in the system.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Yeah, I think you’re right. I assumed the milb.com leaderboard hadn’t updated yet because it usually takes a while. Either way, he still leads the league.

  28. Chip says:

    Remember when the Red Sox could score runs? Yeah, me neither…..

  29. RCK says:

    I would like to subscribe to that newsletter!

  30. Danny says:

    LMAO that sign is all sorts of awesome!

  31. Headline time:

    mlb.com – Nippert helps Rangers roll over Sox
    foxsports.com – Rangers stifle BoSox to complete series sweep
    ESPN.com – BoSox get 1B LaRoche | Swept by Rangers

    Bias anyone?

  32. Ivans says:

    About the sign: Makes me want to be Jewish for the jokes, kind of like Tim Watney…

    About the Sox: They’ll unfortunately bounce back a little bit this weekend against the O’s in Boston. There’s something fishy about the way they almost look like they know what pitches are coming when they play at home…hmmm…

    About Montero in September: I say call him up and get his feet wet. Get him a few games at the show, maybe more if the division lead is safe. Or more if he’s killing the ball. Posada will need some rest to get ready for the postseason. The playoff roster will be pretty tight so he won’t be on it. But keep him around for the experience.

  33. Bruno says:

    Jesus Montero, c/dh, Yankees

    Scouts who cover the Yankees organization are fond of saying the team over-values its own prospects, but the scouting consensus is that Montero is the real deal. He has premium raw power and pure hitting ability to go with it. If he can catch, he could have a Mike Piazza-esque career. More than likely, he’s New York’s future DH, and the Yankees’ asking price for him is prohibitive.

    I don’t like the DH thing, but LOVE the Piazza-esque career.

  34. Mike bk says:

    does anyone know if the cape cod allstar game will be shown online since i dont have NESN and 2009 draft pick Aaron Meade was selected to pitch in it?

  35. [...] Jesus Montero, catching, was 2 for 5 with a double to raise his AA average to .308.  And yes, even Jews love him. [...]

  36. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Atheists who believe in Jesus.

    Atheists who believe in the Holy Trinity: The Father (Mo), the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit (nominees? I’m going with Teix).

  37. Rich M says:

    With the Pope throwing to Jesus there was no way Trenton was going to lose this game.

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