July 2nd Signing Period Primer

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ESPN’s Jorge Arangure Jr. has a post up (behind the Insider wall, unfortunately) updating us on all of the recent international free agent stuff. He says the Yanks have been linked to more players than any other team, mostly because they invite pretty much everyone to work out at their Dominican academy. We know they’ve already come to an agreement with catcher Gary Sanchez for $2.5M, but they’re also interested in outfielders Leonardo Fuentes and Jose Alberto Pena, righthander Cristopher Cabrera and shortstop Daimian Arredondo. The Yanks have also been connected to Cuban defectors Jose Iglesias and Noel Arguelles, a second baseman and a lefty pitcher, respectively. And, of course, they’re in on megaprospect Miguel Sano.

Teams can sign amateurs at least 16 years of age starting tomorrow. Don’t miss my talk with Baseball America’s Ben Badler about what he thinks the Yanks could do. Here’s Ben’s list of the top 25 prospects available this year.

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Quick Hits: Yankee Stadium, Mariano, Halsey, IIATMS
Looking at the Yankees in June
  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Arangure’s Twitter feed has all that primo info, and it’s not behind any insider walls.

    http://twitter.com/jorgearangure

    • Teix is the Man

      What are the chances the Yanks nab Sano?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Apparently, it’s a three-team race between the Pirates and Twins, with the Orioles recently entering the fray as the new financial heavy.

        I’d say the chances are slim.

        Personally, if we don’t get him, I hope the Pirates do. I’d love to have him not land in the AL, and the Pirates need all the help they can get. I pity them.

        (Plus, if he goes to the Pirates, he’ll probably end up here at some point, since the Pirates are our farm club now.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          (Plus, if he goes to the Pirates, he’ll probably end up here at some point, since the Pirates are our farm club now.

          My thoughts exactly.

        • Thomas

          The Orioles say they will only make a play for Sano, if they can verify his age (I have no idea how they’d do that).

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Cut him in half and count the rings.

          • Ed

            For a 16 year old, you could probably narrow it down to a few year window by doing an x-ray of his elbow. I believe the growth plates start closing around that age, so if they’re fully closed you can confidently say that he’s a few years older than he claims.

            • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              “For a 16 year old, you could probably narrow it down to a few year window by doing an x-ray of his elbow.”

              Yeah but dude, I think the question is whether he’s really 16 or maybe, like 18 or 19, not 30. If that test only narrows it down to a “few year window,” it doesn’t do too much good in this situation.

              • Ed

                Let’s try this again. The growth plates of an 18 year old look very different from the growth plates of a 16 year old.

                If he’s really 18-19, you’ll know. If he’s 17 and claiming 16, you can’t tell.

          • Yankee1010

            I think someone actually already did a bone graph (I think that is what it was) and determined that he is either 16 or 17.

        • BklynJT

          (Plus, if he goes to the Pirates, he’ll probably end up here at some point, since the Pirates are our farm club now.)
          I was reading your comment and was waiting for this point.

          • Bo

            if you are truly worried about him being 18 or 19 than you shouldn’t be bidding 4+mill on him.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Dear Mo:

              I know I’m not perfect. I try to live as you would want me to. It would be presumptuous of me to ask something of you, oh Mo, but if you could find it in your benevolent heart to teach Bo how to use the reply button correctly, I promise I will do my best to do your will on earth and spread the word of your good news across the world. Mosanna, Mosanna, Mosanna in the highest.

              Amen.

              • Tampa Yankee

                ietci (h/t jsb)

                My coworkers must think I’m nuts when I just bust out laughing at some of the stuff you post on here. Well done!

        • Teix is the Man

          I would feel really bad being outbid by any of those teams. Oh well…

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Arangure also says that the “Padres appear favorites to land LHP Edgar Ferreira for bonus of about $1m-$1.5m” but that “Yankees, Braves, Brewers and Marlins also have interest in Ferreira.”

    http://twitter.com/jorgearangu.....2423248879

  • Sam

    I also heard that we were the favorites to sign that Venezuelan shortstop Sardinas. I’ll look for the link.

    • Sam

      Couldn’t find it. My bad.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        For those interested, here are a list of some of the more heralded names on the international market (gathered from Baseball America, ESPN’s La Esquina, and Kiley McDaniel)…
        Venezuelan SS Luis Sardinas – lanky SS with good hands; Yanks & Red Sox

        http://natsfarm.com/2009/06/25.....-deadline/

        • Sam

          Thanks.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I give because I love.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              Should we add this to the drinking game? I feel like we should.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                If we add all of my sayings and memes to the drinking game, way too many people will die. Seriously.

                Let’s pick one. My vote is still for “Ty Cobb stabbed a guy.”

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

                  Agreed.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    My wish list:

    Cheslor Cuthbert, 3B, Nicaragua – because that’s an awesome name
    Jurickson Profar, RHP/SS, Curacao – ditto
    Juan Urbina, LHP, Venezuela – because he’s Ugueth’s kid, and it would allow me to have a new version of my meme about Ty Cobb stabbing a guy
    Daniel Sanchez, RHP, Venezuela – because I still want to field a team of nothing but Duncans and Sanchezes

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      Are there any Melky’s available this year?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Sadly, no.

        I think we already have all the Melkys in the Western Hemisphere. Probably Eastern, too.

    • V

      Think the Cardinals would give us Chris Duncan, for, say, Hughes?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        They have to throw in pitching coach Dave Duncan and RHP prospect Eduardo Sanchez too, or I’m not interested.

      • Sam

        Only if we threw in Shelley, Dave likes having one of his kids around but not both, because then the forearm slams turn into rough-stuff and it’s a whole thing.

        • Tampa Yankee

          That would defeat the purpose of trying to have a team full of Duncans.

          • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

            Germans? Forget it, he’s rolling.

            • jsbrendog

              Dead! he’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                And we’re just the guys to do it.

              • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

                Wormer is a dead man! Marmalard: dead! Neidermeyer–
                Dead.

          • Mr.Jigginz

            What we really need,is a player named Duncan Sanchez…

      • Thomas

        Only, if they toss in Dave, too.

        Then, I’d try trading A-Jax, Brackman, and CJ Henry (assuming we still own his rights) to SA for Tim.

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          We traded CJ Henry to Kansas for Schaffer Hall

          • Mike bk

            not quite he might be going to Kentucky now

    • Tom Zig

      TSJC:

      “Juan Urbina’s Dad poured gasoline on some guys”

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Nah, too far removed from the original.

        “Juan Urbina’s dad tried to stab some guys.”

        • Marcus

          Isn’t more like, “Juan Urbina’s dad tried to hack some guys up”? Ugueth and his henchmen were wielding machetes, after all…

          • jsbrendog

            juan urbina’s dad enjoys machetes.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Look, who’s the meme-creating expert here, me, or you? I thought so.

            http://ia.media-imdb.com/image.....SY334_.jpg (SFW)

            • Marcus

              I definitely cede to you on meme-creation ;)

              I’m just trying to be accurate. Don’t want those young, impressionable RABers thinking that Urgueth merely tried to poke a few holes in a guy. It does a disservice to his level of psychopath-ness to leave out the gasoline and machete-wielding, no?

      • Thomas

        I believe that is called “Telling the batter hit at your own risk.”

    • Salty Buggah

      Thank Mo we already “have” Tony Sanchez in “our” farm system.

  • Drew

    Can’t we just sign all 25?
    I keed I keed

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
      • jsbrendog

        everyday i want to click on these tinyurls so bad but i then go NO! I am at work! and must relent.

        • Tampa Yankee

          +1… It drives me nuts. These tiny urls do not allow me to check to see they’re SFW beforehand.

          • Bo

            Don’t you have to assume the tiny urls on baseball sites linking to baseball stuff are safe? Live a little

            • jsbrendog

              you dont have to assume because then youd be wrong. most of them, in fact. are not. i see a lot of youtube videos which is blocked and logged everytime i try to go to a blocked site. its lame, but the less reasons they have to fire me the better.

              • Tampa Yankee

                This.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            Agreed. New rule, if you post some kind of shortened URL, stick a little (SFW/NSFW) next to it please. I’ll make a more formal announcement later.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Sounds like a plan.

            • jsbrendog

              + eleventy billion

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              if you post some kind of shortened URL, stick a little (SFW/NSFW) next to it please.

              Does pat have to change his name to “pat (NSFW)”?

              • jsbrendog

                ietci

                (i = immensely)

            • Tampa Yankee

              Tampa Yankee… Change we can believe in!

            • /guest’d

              Now i’m glad i didnt open the link.

              Definite good idea Mike. Privacy at my job is a pretty fluid situation if i’m caught eye-fucking NSFW images.

              • jsbrendog

                yeah they’re totally cool with me being on a blog posting comments all day but the nsfw stuff won’t fly.

              • Tampa Yankee

                Yeah same here. I mean half my day is reading this blog and playing FreeCell… err, doing market reearch but that would not fly.

                • Tampa Yankee

                  I also enjoy following the games during on mlb.com especially on days like today when the Sawx and Beckett are getting rocked by the O’s (5-1 after 4) and when Burrell grounds into a double play with the bases loaded to end the top of the 7th with the Rays down 2-0. But NSFW shit would get me canned.

                • Thomas

                  I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.

                • jsbrendog

                  it’s an odd dichotomy is it not?

        • Iowa Yank

          It is a youtube link to the scene from The Professional where Gary Oldman screams Bring Me Everyone !!!1!11

          You are welcome in advance

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1QCi-cRwyo

        Cause we like her, and we like her too/
        And we like her, and we like her too/
        And we like her, and we like her too/
        And we like her, and she like us too/

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          WARNING WARNING WARNING: That YouTube video is NSFW. Profanity.

          • jsbrendog

            what is this youtube you speak of?

      • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/413671602_daded72a81_m.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Sorry all, I was away from my computer for a bit… That one is SFW, it’s an old movie clip. Might want to keep your computer volume at a reasonably low level if you don’t have your own office.

  • Bo

    This is the type of area where they need to flex their financial muscles. But the economy must not be that bad in baseball if the Padres, Pirates, Twins, etc are throwing millions at 16 yr olds.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    Couldn’t BA hire a someone Dominican that sees these kids? All I get from Badler is regurgitation.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Welcome to the modern era of newsmedia.

      • ColoYank

        Yeah, regurgimedia.

  • Reggie C.

    Somebody always changes his mind the last minute and breaks his verbal promise for more money. Maybe the fact that the Yankees have a long established education and integration system in place for only-Spanish speaking kids could help them nab a kid or 2 at the end.

    I’d like to see the Yanks also nab a couple Venezuelans. Montero has worked out pretty well.

    • Billy

      they got the best venezualan hitter ramon flores last year. he’s in rookie GCL ball now at age 17

  • Billy

    the jose alberto pena guy has talent, not as much as wagner mateo. midlevel guy next up to mateo is pimentel. he was hitting shots out of sight on the video. if we dont get sano we should get pimental and the two cubans. eiyher way we’ll have a good international crop

    • Billy

      pimentel

      • Bo

        What guy doesn’t look great taking BP?

        • Billy

          u have to see it. it wasnt natural. he hit balls out of sight nonchalontly. check it out on vimeo, there’s also some gary sanchez, jose pena and mateo in there

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Don’t take it personal, Billy.

            It’s just Bo.

  • Billy

    why doesnt sano just sign with us instead of pittsburgh. if he gets to the majors they’ll trade him to the yankees anyway