Montero does it again in a loss

Game 78 Spillover Thread II
Quickly recapping a loss

Austin Jackson, Shelley Duncan, and Chris Stewart were named to the International League All-Star Team. Congrats to them.

Make sure you scroll down for tonight’s game thread.

Triple-A Scranton (4-3 loss to Pawtucket)
Kevin Russo: 0 for 3, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 E (fielding)
Ramiro Pena & Austin Jackson: both 2 for 4, 1 R – Jackson swiped a bag & K’ed
Shelley Duncan: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 K
Juan Miranda: 1 for 3, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
Jose Molina: 0 for 2, 1 RBI – caught the first five innings
Colin Curtis: 0 for 2, 2 BB, 2 K
Yurendell DeCaster & Eric Duncan: both 0 for 4, 1 K
Sergio Mitre: 5.1 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HB, 9-3 GB/FB – 44 of 79 pitches were strikes (55.7%)
Mark Melancon: 2.2 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 7-0 GB/FB – 26 of 39 pitches were strikes (66.7%) … that’s domination, homes

Double-A Trenton (9-6 loss to Erie)
Austin Krum, Edwar Gonzalez & Marcos Vechionacci: all 1 for 4 – Krum drew a walk
Reegie Corona: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 2B
Eduardo Nunez: 1 for 5, 1 R
Jorge Vazquez: 4 for 5, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI – BOMBS
Jesus Montero: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 K – that’s four straight games with a jack, five homers total … 8 for his last 15 (.533)
Chris Malec: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 K
Jason Johnson: 3.2 IP, 11 H, 8 R, 8 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 2 WP, 7-2 GB/FB – eek
Wilkins Arias: 1.1 IP, zeroes, 3 K, 0-1 GB/FB
Eric Wordekemper: 2 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 1-4 GB/FB
Jose Valdez: 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 2-0 GB/FB – one of the walks was intentional

High-A Tampa
Game 1
(8-3 win over Sarasota in 7 innings) makeup of yesterday’s rain out
Dan Brewer: 1 for 4, 1 RBI, 1 K
Matt Cusick: 0 for 4, 1 K
Austin Romine: 2 for 3, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 HBP – everyone loves Jesus, but Mr. Romine has two jacks in two games and three in his last seven, plus he’s already eclipsed last year’s homer total and is just three back in the doubled category
Damon Sublett, Brandon Laird & David Adams: all 1 for 3 – Sublett hit a solo jack, drew a walk & scored twice … Laird doubled, drove in a run & scored another … Adams cross the plate once
Seth Fortenberry: 2 for 4, 2 RBI
Kevin smith: 1 for 2, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 BB
Hector Noesi: 5 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 3-7 GB/FB – finally makes his A+ debut after who knows how many rain outs
Tim Norton: 2 IP, zeroes, 3 K, 0-3 GB/FB
Game 2 (5-2 win over Sarasota in 7 innings)
Dan Brewer: 0 for 4, 2 K
Mitch Hilligoss & Brandon Laird: both 2 for 4, 1 2B – Hit Streak scored twice … Laird homered & drove in four
Austin Romine: 0 for 1, 1 R, 2 BB
Damon Sublett: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 RBI, 2 K
David Adams: 2 for 3, 1 K – hitting .316 with Tampa
Humberto Sanchez: 2 IP, zeroes, 2 K, 4-0 GB/FB – wow, he threw more than one inning … progress
Craig Heyer: 4 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 7-5 GB/FB
Jon Hovis: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB

Low-A Charleston (3-0 win over Greenville)
Jose Pirela & Mitch Abeita: both 1 for 4, 1 2B – Pirela drove in two runs & K’ed twice
Ray Kruml, Corban Joseph & Abe Almonte: all 0 for 3, 1 BB – Kruml swiped a bag, scored a run & K’ed three times … Joseph stole a base, K’ed & committed a throwing error
Melky Mesa: 0 for 4, 1 RBI, 1 K
Neall French & Mike Lyon: both 0 for 2, 1 R, 1 BB – French K’ed once, Lyon twice
Addison Maruszak: 1 for 3, 2 K
Cory Arbiso: 5.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 9-3 GB/FB – just back up from Staten Island
Brad Rulon: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 2-3 GB/FB
Jon Ortiz: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 1-1 GB/FB

Short Season Staten Island (6-5 loss to Lowell, walk-off style)
Jimmy Paredes, Zoilo Almonte & Francisco Santana: all 0 for 4 – Almonte K’ed twice, Santana once
Kelvin Castro, Rob Lyerly, DeAnglo Mack & Luke Murton: all 1 for 4 – Castro scored a run, K’ed twice & committed two throwing errors … Lyerly doubled, scored a run & drove one in … Mack drove in a run & was picked off first … Murton doubled & K’ed
Kyle Higashioka: 2 for 4, 1 R, 2 K
Neal Medchill; 2 for 2, 2 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB – 12 for his last 24 with five doubles and a homer
Francisco Rondon: 4 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 8 K, 3-1 GB/FB – 6 hits allowed in 14.1 IP
Gavin Brooks: 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Ben Watkins: 2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1-2 GB/FB
Ryan Flannery: 1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB
Ronnie Marte: 0.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 1 K

Rookie GCL Yanks (9-2 loss to GCL Braves)
Ramon Flores: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K
Jose Toussen: 2 for 4, 2 K
Kevin Mahoney: 1 for 2, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 1 HBP – he set the MAAC single season record with 22 homers this spring
Kelvin DeLeon: 1 for 3, 1 K, 1 E (fielding)
Eduardo Sosa: 0 for 2, 1 BB, 1 K
Jose Mojica: 1 for 4, 1 K
Francisco Arcia, Issac Harrow & Mitch Delaney: all  for 3 – Arcia K’ed once, Delaney twice
Brett Smith: 2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 3-0 GB/FB – first action since Sept. 1st, 2007 due to injury
Jose Ramirez: 5 IP, 3 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 3 K, 1 HB, 8-4 GB/FB – served up a pair of two run homers as well as a solo jack
Shane Greene: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 2-1 GB/FB

Game 78 Spillover Thread II
Quickly recapping a loss
  • Professor Oak

    7-0 GB to FB rate for Melancon


    • Dorian

      And Montero Wept

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      He did allow an inherited runner to score, which turned out to be the deciding run.

      • Drew

        Who cares? It wasn’t his. It’s not like he’ll ever inherit runners in the bigs.

        • Rick in Boston

          Yeah, but a reliever needs to ensure that inherited runners don’t score. If he’s allowing them to score with regularity in the minors, don’t you think it’ll happen in the majors?

  • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Whoa. No one was rained out? What new devilry is this?

    • cult of basebaal

      Baruk Khazad. Khazad aimenu!

  • Dorian

    Call up Jesus to bat 5th

    • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      At this point that may not be an awful idea.

      • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        and no, I am not entirely serious

  • Accent Shallow

    Montero is incandescent.

    Is Cody Arbiso worth paying attention to? How about Rondon?

  • Jake H

    I wonder where Montero will be in BA’s hot sheet tomorrow.

  • Drew

    Wow, I looked at Mitre’s line when it was 2R’s 1 ER. I blame A-Rod…and minor league defense.

  • Mike bk

    If Romine walked a little more his numbers as great as Jesus is playing would be right there with him. Slugging over 500 with similar hr and rbi totals, more doubles, just need to improve those walks some and he would be easily OPSing 850 right now.

    • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Yeah, but you have to also consider that Montero is doing that this at a different level, too. Lots of guys stall at AA. Jesus’ stalling lasted about a week.

      • Mike bk

        I didnt say they were the same, but lets give Romine some of the credit he deserves and not just fawn endlessly over Jesus. If we didnt have Montero we would be doing it about Romine as we are with Montero, so we could at least give him his props.

        If it wasnt for this power surge people as there were a week ago would be asking what was wrong with Montero’s power, so maybe i just want people to stop being so high/low.

        I am the first to say what Montero is doing at AA at 19 is very very special, but Romine at 20 the way he is playing is also outstanding.

        • eVizions

          You said it yourself, though: what Romine is doing is outstanding. What Montero is doing is special.

          A 20 year old in A+ doing what Romine is doing is incredible, but a 19 year old doing what Montero is doing in AA is something we haven’t seen since…

          • Mike bk

            but we have a big enough attention span to praise both

    • Steve O.

      If things were different, they wouldn’t be the same.


      • BigBlueAL


  • McCaff

    Mo created Jesus immaculately.

  • Lanny

    Montero has a shot to crack the top 10 prospects list. Doesn’t hurt that he’s a catcher.

    • ArodMVP217 Retire 51

      he already cracked, hehe. maybe this gives them more credibility?

    • Mike bk

      Montero is on the projectprospect top 50 done yesterday. That list counts Wieters, Derek Holland and Hanson still since they havent officially graduated to the majors, so i would count that as number 8.

      Only guys ahead of him on the list i agree with would be Jason Heyward, Brian Matusz, Chris Tillman, Smoak, and maybe Mike Stanton even though he is 1 behind him.

      If Montero keeps this up he will pass Smoak and Heyward, only thing holding him back right now is doubts about position.

      • Mike bk

        sorry thought i put his number but guess not…they had him 11.

      • Mike bk

        also had Z-Mac 34, A-Jax 48.

  • daneptizl

    Damn Ben… you’re being quoted everywhere now…

    • Rebecca-Optimist Prime


    • daneptizl

      He was quoted in ESPN and… maybe someplace else.

  • RollingWave

    And on the forth day, Jesus goes deep again.

  • CB

    Higashioka has gotten of to a very nice start at Staten Island. Hitting over .300. Only 30 odd at bats but it’s good to see he’s not flailing against better competition then he’s seen before.

    And Romine is having a remarkable year in the FSL. Guy just don’t often have breakout power years in the FSL. They struggle to maintain the same power production they did in low A. In most organizations he would be the story of their minor leagues. He’s becoming a good power hitting prospect – not just for a catcher – but in general.

    Montero speaks for himself.

    That is some depth at catching for one organization to have, especially when you have Cervelli at the upper levels as well, Murphy just drafted and Sanchez just signed. That is very impressive

    Good to see Adams also adjusting well to high A. They need the middle infielders.

    • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      If the Yanks were to trade one of the C prospects, preferably for an infield prospect, who should they trade?

      • Mike bk

        depends on the quality of the infield prospect and when they are needed.

      • MattG

        The only two with value are Montero and Romine, and they’re not going anywhere. We have to wait and see what Higgy, Murphy and Sanchez are.

        I suppose that leaves Cervelli, but he wouldn’t bring back much.

      • Mike bk


        did you have particular prospect in mind?

        • Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          Nope. Just throwing it out there.

          • Mike bk

            i ask because if it is a legit one it would take probably romine, but if it is one that is a potential and is down in low A or Short season ball then maybe in 12 months Higgy has enough value. I dont see a trade that involves Jesus any prospect middle infielder cause i dont see one with his kind of ability. if the yanks determine montero cant be an everyday catcher then maybe they look at other OF prospects like a Heyward or Stanton if either team would do that kind of deal, but i just dont see Jesus being moved and i think if Romine keeps this up the rest of the year he is a lock top 100 and should be top 60 or so prospect next year.

            • Reggie C.

              To expand slightly on your point – We’d really have to see what JR Murphy is about. If JR Murphy’s writeup holds true and that he offers a defensive AND offensive game > than that Romine provides , then moving Romine starts to get justifiable.

              … of course, Romine would have to keep playing well all-around , and that means he’s got to slowly keep the OBP rising. Everybody knows Romine’s got plus power, but he also isn’t a patient guy.

              • Mike bk

                well neither was cano and we dont seem to care when he is hitting, but even robby over time is developing it. i think the patience is one of the last things to come with a hitter and that is why we all think so highly of Montero because he walks, but even he is just taking that next step in that as he didnt walk all that much last year, so im sure they will get there with Romine’s patience.

                Ironically enough he did walk twice tonight in the 2nd game of the DH and as a result of the HR and 2 BB in the DH his OPS jumped 20 pts today. If he gets that OBP to 350 instead of the 309 it was at you are looking at a catching prospect with an 850 OPS.

              • Mike bk

                last 9 games for Romine:
                .367 BA
                4 2B
                3 HR
                7 RBI
                8 Runs
                1 SB
                3 BB
                1 K

                That’s great progress

                • Reggie C.

                  I wouldnt be surprised if Romine finished off BA’s Hot Sheet at the 9/10 spot tomorrow. Romine’s flashed the HR power to solidify the plus power tag. I just wanna see him keep up a 3 BB pace every 9 games. I dont think that’s asking for too much.

      • Reggie C.

        Should trade?

        – Considering there aren’t infield positions open in the current Yankee lineup, and the need appears to be for a reliable utility IF, there just isnt a need to move any of the catching depth. Besides, the only catchers who’ve done anything praiseworthy are Montero and Romine. Since its unthinkable to part with Montero for anything short than … i dont know … Grady Sizemore, i guess Romine would be the one to go.

        However, Romine’s got to maintain a high level of play in High-A to be considered by non-yankee scouts as a potential starting major leaguer.

        • eVizions

          Just for shits and giggles, what would it take to get Sizemore if we started a package with Jesus? Would Hughes and McAllister be enough? Would you do that for a guy hitting around .220?

          • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Montero, Hughes, McAllister + Brackman, Betances, Cano, Joba, Heathcott, and the rights to Aroldis Chapman after we sign him, provided we pay for all of his salary.

            There aren’t enough shits and giggles in all the collective asses and mouths in the world to pry Grady Sizemore away from Cleveland.

            • eVizions

              Cleveland is in last place. Sizemore is hitting .219/.306/.414. If you put a package out there of Montero, AJax, Hughes and McAllister, you don’t think they’d at least consider? Yeah, me neither.

            • Mike bk

              as much as i like sizemore i would rather have montero, hughes and z-mac…and everyone else u offered in shits and giggles.

              • ArodMVP217 Retire 51

                IK, let’s not make shapiro seem like a bigger genius than he already is.

                Also, Sizemore < buzzed Mantle

                montero, Hughes, McAllister + is what you trade for Pujols 4 yrs ago

            • Reggie C.

              I wonder how untouchable Grady Sizemore remains if the Indians find themselves in need of rebuilding in 2010. I’d part with Joba Chamberlain for and then add Cano and Austin Jackson to get me some of Grady Sizemore.

              I figure Sizemore is going to cost you 1 very good position player, 1 very good hitting prospect, and the most important piece – 1 potential ace starter. At that point, a Brackman or Betances doesn’t hold up the trade.

              • eVizions

                You mean WHEN the Indians find themselves in need of rebuilding. Most of their best young talent is young, so I’d imagine they’d want some early-to-mid 20’s studs to fill in for the long haul. Unfortunately, they’d probably want Sizemore to anchor that group, so unless he struggles as bad next year as he is this year, we’d probably have to give up more shits and giggles than he’s worth. Joba to start (assuming he moves towards his ace potential), AJax to fill his place and probably Montero and a young potential front-line pitcher. I think they’d pass on Cano given they have Cabrera, unless they wanted to move him to 3B (hmmm, not a bad idea).

                Regardless, we’d probably end up having to give up too much.

      • eVizions

        Interesting question. If we are talking about trading a player for a middle infielder of equal overall value and experience, I’d have to say Romine. Consider my logic before lynching me:

        Murphy and Sanchez are out for obvious reasons. Jesus’ bat is just too special to pass on. I’d prefer to trade Cervelli, but he really wouldn’t bring back anything better than a Ramiro Pena type, or Higashioka, who would get us a prospect too young to make an impact. That leaves Romine. He’s at his peak in terms of value right now. Jesus, at the very least, should be able to replace Posada for a few years until one of the Higgy/Murphy/Sanchez trifecta emerges.

        • Mike bk

          i disagree that Romine is at peak value right now. what i have noticed with him in each of the last two seasons is that through the course of the year he adjusts to the league and comes on strongest later in the year so if he continues this through the end of the year and next year probably at AA then his status will definitely go up around the league.

          but like i said right now in terms of prospects i dont see any middle infielders that romine needs to be given up for now and we dont need one right now either, so lets revist in 12 months…lol

        • Mike Axisa

          Romine won’t fetch much of anything in the trade, though. He’s a very good prospect, but he’s still a catcher in A-ball. The flameout rate on those guys is extremely high. I wouldn’t give up any kind of SS prospect for him, no one good anyway.

          • Reggie C.

            Jose Pirela is gonna eye ball the SS job in 3 years time anyways ….. well .. maybe. DJ should have his 3000 hits by then and be more amenable to a move. If we can’t wait for Pirela or he simply flames out at AA, then we bite the bullet and trade for a then young, solid major league SS.

            Betances and Brackman should be dueling set-up men by then (both having gone through the ESPN’d coined: Bard Conversion), so one of ’em would be apt trade bait.

          • eVizions

            The same could be said for A-ball shortstops, though, right? Chances are they won’t make it/won’t be playing SS. I’d say that quality catching prospects (who can hit AND project to stay behind the plate) are a rarer commodity than shortstops.

          • Charlie

            i’m not agreeing with eVizions at all about trading romine, but he really doesn’t seem like a flameout guy to me. He seems completely legit and is only getting better.

          • Mike bk

            which is why i dont trade him now…see it in a year. if he is doing the same thing at AA in 12 months then he has legit value

            • eVizions

              If he’s doing the same thing in 12 months at AA, you pocket him. More likely, he’ll struggle next year in AA and will determine his real value in ’11 at AA/AAA. If he’s got value now – which I’m not saying he does – you either deal him now or wait two years to revisit. By then he’s more likely to either double or drop in value.

  • RollingWave

    The only infield position likely to open any time soon is SS. and with Jeter’s new found glove that is a bit questionable too.

    • Mike bk

      there is no big prospect in the minors i see at SS that will be ready in 2 years…but maybe im missing someone and please let me know if i am.

      • V

        Alcides Escobar appears to be #1 at the higher levels… but… I’m not thrilled.

        Gordon Beckham’s already in the majors, if he counts.

        • Mike bk

          tough for me to get overly excited by a SS prospect who in his best year ops’ed 797 though it was a big improvement for him at AA. he is still pretty young for AAA at 22 so there is upside but his numbers are going the wrong way from AA. If we needed a SS to start next year maybe but i dont even think he will be ready. rather stick with a glove man like pena even if he wont hit.

        • Mike bk

          Carlos Triunfel is probably the most intriguing to me but he is in the same spot as Romine A+ ball so no rush in making a trade. Jete will be there next year as well and probably at least 1 more after that to ensure he gets 3000.

          so when we need a middle infielder it is 2 years from now and even then i would take a year of pena glove and no bat to buy time.

  • Charlie

    Are we gonna release Jason Johnson already?? The guys sucks and I had no idea he’d hang around this long..

    • Mike Axisa

      Trenton needs a starter. It’s either release him or overwork the relievers that are actual prospects even more.

      • Charlie

        Has your boy Gavin Brooks even allowed an ER yet? I’ve notice he’s King a lot of guys

        • Charlie

          and that is not supposed to be related to the johnson sucking comment.

        • Mike bk

          only one King and that’s Felix…sorry for the ball bust i know u meant K’ing

  • My Pet Goat

    Love of Jesus is no sleight to Romine. And I’m stoked on Austin as the numbers have been good all year, but keep in mind this last streak gas come during promotion season. All the best talent in A+ now resides in AA, so guys like Romine should really thrive down the stretch. Sweet Jesus on the othe hand is walking on water.

    • Mike bk

      how is that not a slight on Romine since you basically just said the reason he is playing better is because all the best A+ ball players are gone to AA?

  • pounder

    Great news for Brett Smith,I hope he stays healthy and comes all the way back.

  • josh

    mike, what r the chances romine sees time at AA. and when do you think it happens