Jul
18

Open Thread: More baseball infographics

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Info - Hall of Fame

Late last month Ben interviewed Craig Robinson, owner of the great site Flip Flop Fly Ball. Craig produces baseball infographics like this one about the height of the Green Monster, and he’s got a new set out now. Make sure you head on over a check them out, otherwise feel free to use this as your open thread. Anything goes, just be nice.

Categories : Open Thread

115 Comments»

  1. Ivan says:

    That’s quite a cool statistic.

  2. Wouldn’t it make more sense for the percentage to be taken from hall-elegible players and not from all players?

    • Januz says:

      The numbers of bona-fide Hall of Famers are actually LOWER than 1.34%, when players such as Satchel Page (Who was elected on his Negro League exploits) and undeserving players such as Rabbit Maranville (.254 career batting average) are included. What is an interesting fact is that there is only one player on an NL West team that can be projected as a Future Hall Of Famer, and even he has the steroid taint (Manny). That should give an indication of how difficult election really is.

  3. Salty Buggah says:

    Well the percent in HOF number should be close to 50%. I mean if Mr. Fear Jim Rice got in…

  4. whozat says:

    So, I went to my first game at the new stadium today. Several things…

    1) Verlander is really good
    2) CC was very frustrating. Taking forever between pitches, deep counts against poor hitters…but it turned out well :-)
    3) Ordonez’s bat is really slow.
    4) All the fans around me were about as well-informed as Joe Morgan. It was really aggravating.
    5) They also really enjoyed Cotton-Eyed Joe and the YMCA. Boo.
    6) Everyone loves to pile on ARod.

    So, basically…the stadium was gorgeous, my seats were great, and I hate most Yankee fans.

    • Joey says:

      “…and I hate most Yankee fans.”

      Which is why you should be thanking Mo every night that he blessed us with RAB

      • whozat says:

        I do.

        There were guys bitching at ARod for not laying out on his bad hip “like Mike Lowell would do,” completely unaware that he just missed three weeks on the DL due to hip issues.

        There was one guy wishing for Abreu back in RF, and constant ripping on Swisher.

        • Evan says:

          My mother was complaining about why the Yankees didn’t re-sign Abreu during the Angels series. I tried to explain it to her but she was too tired to understand.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      Most Yankee fans go by what they hear in the NY Times, Mike Francesa and such. Not everyone is as well informed as RAB is.

      I wish CEJ and YMCA would die already.

    • The Artist says:

      That’s what you get for buying a cheap seat. You wind up sitting with the riff raff and the unwashed masses. Harumpf!

      • whozat says:

        I didn’t. I was six rows (and one divider) behind Michael Kay.

        I think I might have met more informed fans in the cheap seats. I’ll find out tomorrow :-)

        • toad says:

          That’s likely, actually.

          Lots of the fans in the cheap seats are stretching to buy tickets at all. They’re there because they love it, not because it’s just something to do.

        • The Artist says:

          Right, what I meant to say was “That’s what you get for sitting in those overpriced seats!! Sit with the REAL Fans next time!! Harumpf!!!”

  5. Salty Buggah says:

    Ok I just watched the postgame interviews and Kim Jones has been using “gritty” too much and 3 times today. It’s kinda annoying.

  6. The Artist says:

    “With all due respect to all the fine and wondrous relievers out there in Baseball Land, isn’t Hughes yet another nail in their coffin, value-wise? Good relief pitchers are merely failed starters, while great relievers — Billy Wagner and Mariano Rivera come to mind — might simply be good starters who never got a real shot to start. Makes me wonder if instead of bringing good minor league relievers to the majors, teams should instead focus on good minor league starters as bullpen material.”

    http://myespn.go.com/blogs/swe.....iance.html

    Ahem . . . . well, uhhh . . no comment.

    • The Artist says:

      In all seriousness, I agree 100%. The off-the-charts success of Joba, Hughes and Price in the pen and their struggles as starters shows just how much easier it is to only have to go once through a lineup, if that.

      And the Yanks have been using pitchers as starters in the minors who they envision as eventually becoming MLB relievers. Phil Coke is a good example of that. The trend of drafting relievers out of College seems to be sputtering of late, with very few making an MLB impact.

      I’ve never bought into this “relievers are a different breed” nonsense. Most of that seems to come from the fact that they have bad-ass theme songs and ones like Gossage and Paps try to intimidate people. But Clemens and Pedro were intimidators as well, just without the loud music. At the end of the day, it comes down to your stuff, and the ability to throw quality strikes. If you can do that, you will get people out. Whether its the 3rd inning or the 9th.

    • Tom Zig says:

      The comments on that article are awesome

      • The Artist says:

        Hahahah! Just read them.

        It all comes back to ‘Joba in the pen’ and trading for Halladay.

        • Zach says:

          “if i were the Yanks and decided to make a move for Halladay i would absolutely go for the package of Halladay/Rios and be willing to absorb both contracts in exchange for not including Hughes/Joba/Montero or AJax in a deal…by absorbong both contracts i’m taking close to 75mil in commitments off their books in exchange for something like Nova/McCallister/Rom ine/Melancon/Duncan, Shelley”

          thats my favorite

          • The Artist says:

            SHELLY DUNCAN?!?!

            WHAT IS HE, NUTS!?!?!!

            • Zach says:

              i know, shelly is an untouchable prospect

              • The Artist says:

                I MEAN, COME ON!! I LIKE HALLADAY, BUT SHEESH!!!

                • Zach says:

                  “while i understand that there is no “sexy” name in this deal it is a quality package if talent that could all be contributing to Torontos roster by mid 2010….Romine althogh not as hyped as Montero is a very solid all around C prospect who’s actually a much much better defensive catcher than Montero witha real good bat with 20-25 homer power,Nova and McCallister have the stuff to be 2/3 type ML starters and Shelley could play 1b/OF/DH and give that team some RH pop right now as a replacement for Rios and none of these guys would make any $ for 4-5 more years… ”

                  forgot to give his reasons

          • cult of basebaal says:

            I dunno, this one’s pretty good too


            Teams should stockpile there minor league teams with 6 starters (of course, easier said than done), then rotate the closers role among the six. Let each guy be closer for a month, and when his month is up, he goes back to the rotation. This way, guys would learn the differences between the roles, thus figuring out what they are suited to do in the minor leagues. This would also help teams keep guys innings down, without as strict a pitch count limit.

  7. Evan says:

    We all need to keep the little O’Noras in our thoughts. He suffered the cruelest fate in the Twins-Rangers game.

  8. son of sam says:

    whozat is a racist pig and an elitist. you’re a real tough guy online but you won’t say anything during the game. i wonder why?

    • son of sam says:

      whozat: reply below and tell me when you’re coming to the game next. let’s have a little chat.

    • whozat says:

      Won’t say anything during the game? The game has been over for hours.

      Racist? On this site we constantly mock the stereotypes that infest sports fandom and journalism. White guys are gritty, black guys are athletic/toolsy, and latinos are lackadasical.

      We make fun of these things because they’re ridiculous. People need to create these narratives for themselves when, really, any guy of any race can be toolsy, gutsy, graceful, lazy, clumsy, or out-of-shape.

      But hey, thanks for assuming the worst.

  9. YankeeFan says:

    Medchill with his 8th HR…2 for 3 on the night so far…

  10. Jake H says:

    drinking and playing wii. great sat night ahead.

  11. Here are some headlines:

    mlb.com – Jays’ bats fuel Rzepczynski’s first win
    yahoo sports – Jays end Red Sox’s 4-game winning streak
    ESPN – Lowrie returns with HR, but Jays beat BoSox

    Bias anyone?

  12. Zach says:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....-for-Cards

    So Glaus cant throw from 3B to 1B, but he can play LF? Guess Damon will no longer have the weakest LF arm in the majors

  13. YankeeFan says:

    GRAND SLAM MONTERO on 3-2 count with 2 outs…ties game at 4!

  14. Worse FA signing:

    - Pavano with the Yankees, or
    - Schmidt with the Dodgers?

    Despite my personal hatred I have to vote for the Schmidt deal?

  15. Peter Lacock says:

    Rays pitcher Scott Kazmir left the game due to an arm injury, per Gameday.

  16. RollingWave says:

    so there is 30×25= 750 major leaguers in the league at any given time, and usually a team probably blow through 40 guys a year when considering callups, fill ins and septemeber guys.

    but lets just use 25, it means there are probably something like 80 HOFer in the majors who are playing this year.

  17. Monstero up again with the bases loaded.

  18. Jake H says:

    I wish that MLB network did a 30 minute recap of the minors. Just talk about the big name prospects and what they did.

  19. The Artist says:

    Looking back on the Dan Haren trade, Beane got hosed. None of those 5 players amounted to much.

    http://www.baseball-reference......da01.shtml

  20. On baseball tonight they just totally did a whole segment praising Jeter’s defense.

    My head is going to explode.

  21. Troy says:

    Rays won again tonight.

    Watch out for that team…they are primed to go on a run, and the Yankees must keep the pace.

    Maybe New York and Tampa will be the ones to reach the playoffs. Nothing would please me more.

  22. mustang says:

    Good write up on Ted Lilly and how the Yankees ( Cashman) drop the ball. I know I argued with a few people here on this topic its nice to see someone have a logical write up on the topic.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....?track=rss

    • mustang says:

      Although I can’t blame Cashman for the Weaver for Lilly trade at the time it seemed like a good deal. But Igawa for Lilly in a cost saving move ouch!

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