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	<title>Comments on: The Hall of Fame down to a science</title>
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		<title>By: Dwnflfan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/the-hall-of-fame-down-to-a-science-15095/#comment-497566</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwnflfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palmer also had one of the better defenses of all time playing behind him.  If they had switched places my bet is that Mussina would&#039;ve ended up with 300 wins, several 20 win seasons and a noticably better ERA+.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palmer also had one of the better defenses of all time playing behind him.  If they had switched places my bet is that Mussina would&#8217;ve ended up with 300 wins, several 20 win seasons and a noticably better ERA+.</p>
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		<title>By: gxpanos</title>
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		<dc:creator>gxpanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of what you said changes the fact that they are the same pitcher. Maybe Palmer had higher peaks and lower valleys (hence the Cy&#039;s), played on better teams (which is true, and anyway it wasn&#039;t Moose&#039;s fault he doesnt have rings from &#039;01 and even &#039;03), and 20-win seasons are a dumb thing to consider (and show the higher peaks/lower valleys thing again, as well as a different era when pitchers threw more innings and got more decisions).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of what you said changes the fact that they are the same pitcher. Maybe Palmer had higher peaks and lower valleys (hence the Cy&#8217;s), played on better teams (which is true, and anyway it wasn&#8217;t Moose&#8217;s fault he doesnt have rings from &#8217;01 and even &#8217;03), and 20-win seasons are a dumb thing to consider (and show the higher peaks/lower valleys thing again, as well as a different era when pitchers threw more innings and got more decisions).</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pawlikowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Pawlikowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s in the post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s in the post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palmer also has three rings, three Cy Youngs, and eight 20-win seasons. that&#039;s probably why he gets more love than the Moose despite the similar numbers

ERA+ might be identical, but I feel like a lot of writers don&#039;t even know what that is, and just see 2.86 vs. 3.68</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palmer also has three rings, three Cy Youngs, and eight 20-win seasons. that&#8217;s probably why he gets more love than the Moose despite the similar numbers</p>
<p>ERA+ might be identical, but I feel like a lot of writers don&#8217;t even know what that is, and just see 2.86 vs. 3.68</p>
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		<title>By: Matt H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Formula&#039;s boring, trades....love em.

Bryan Hoch just tweeted that the Yanks appear to be closing a deal for Bronson Arroyo.  It&#039;s just being held up on home much of Bronson&#039;s salary will be paid by the Reds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Formula&#8217;s boring, trades&#8230;.love em.</p>
<p>Bryan Hoch just tweeted that the Yanks appear to be closing a deal for Bronson Arroyo.  It&#8217;s just being held up on home much of Bronson&#8217;s salary will be paid by the Reds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jsbrendog</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsbrendog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he didn&#039;t mean it honey.

::hugs b-r printouts and gm trade histories and vorp charts::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he didn&#8217;t mean it honey.</p>
<p>::hugs b-r printouts and gm trade histories and vorp charts::</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/the-hall-of-fame-down-to-a-science-15095/#comment-497410</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UIO2dAGjgE&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/the-hall-of-fame-down-to-a-science-15095/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/4UIO2dAGjgE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool, i&#039;m guessing it doesnt factor in steroid usage, though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool, i&#8217;m guessing it doesnt factor in steroid usage, though</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/07/the-hall-of-fame-down-to-a-science-15095/#comment-497408</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those creepy effeminate bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those creepy effeminate bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: Spaceman.Spiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spaceman.Spiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE GAME IS NOT PLAYED ON SPREADSHEETS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE GAME IS NOT PLAYED ON SPREADSHEETS!!</p>
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