Jul
24

Yanks to face Holliday-less A’s this weekend

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The rumors had been circulating for a few hours, and now it finally seems official: Matt Holliday is going to the Cardinals for third baseman Brett Wallace, outfielder Shane Peterson and right-handed pitcher Clayton Mortensen. The Cardinals will also receive $1.5 million from the A’s. So how does this relate to the Yankees? Simple: The Bombers won’t have to face a recently hot Matt Holliday — .330/.402/.536 over his last 26 games — in the remaining contests they have against the A’s this weekend, and that sounds good to me.

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  • Evan NYC

    That’s fine with me.

  • Frank

    Although they will face a very hot pitcher tonight in Brett Anderson.

  • JohnnyC

    So does Wallace immediately get the 3rd base job? And should Cashman have any interest at all in Crosby?

    • bonestock94

      Curious about this too.

      The Cardinals are going to have a very intimidating line-up, at least for this year.

    • Rich James

      bubba crosby??

      i thought we’ve already been down that road!

      • bonestock94

        No I was asking about Wallace starting, just wondering.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      What would the Yankees do with Bobby Crosby?

      • Angel

        better than Mr.Ramson

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

          In a vacuum, yes. But considering that Crosby wouldn’t come free and is making a few million, he’s not worth the “upgrade.” His bat is also pretty terrible.

        • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

          Bobby Crosby:

          .220/.300/.339

          Cody Ransom:

          .188/.263/.319

          Improvement? Sure. Enough of an improvement to justify the Yanks giving up something and exchanging a $455,100 deal for this year for a $5.25 million deal? Nope.

          • Steve O.

            Ben >>>>>>>> you

            • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

              Not nice! Cleary, had I seen Ben’s comment, I wouldn’t have made mine …

      • Jose

        He won Rookie of the Year. We’ve had the 2002 and 2003 ROYs on the team at some point this year, why not add the 2004 ROY? We can have our very own collection.

        • Rich James

          my grandma is better then cody ransom…and she is missing 1 leg and 1 arm!

          (she gave up an arm and a leg for the yankees to sign AJ, CC and TEX) LOL

          • Orlando

            LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

            Thanks, I needed it!!!

            • Rich James

              My grandma also played a little softball in college ;)

        • Chris

          I like this idea. And while we’re at it we can add the 2005 and 2006 ROYs too.

          • Bo

            Comparing Ransom n Crosby is like comparing cat poo and dog poo.

  • Klemy

    This does come at a really good time for the Yanks schedule.

  • Dela G

    wow thanks A’s for making this lineup much easier to face

    • gio

      too bad the A’s go to boston next.

  • Mikebk

    this is a dumb trade for the cards if they dont resign holliday. it does help the yanks this weekend and now there is no excuse not to take at least 3 from this lineup.

  • JGS

    so…the As just lost their biggest bat after the first game of a four game set? I’m ok with that

  • Ivans

    Things really do seem to be falling into place for the Yankees to keep on winning. When a team is on a winning streak, these breaks just seem to keep happening. In recent years, it’s been frustrating to watch how the Red Sox luckily got breaks such as for example, missing Halladay when playing Toronto or having a good hitter be on the DL against them and then coming back and ripping us.

  • Mikebk

    in other news doesnt Oakland netting Wallace, the best prospect in the cards system now that Rasmus is up, a solid 24 year old starter and a 21 year old OF for a 2 month rental on a good but not great hitter outside of coors reinforce to some extend the demands JP is making for Halladay who is locked up for next year as well?

    • JMK

      Can we try again in English?

      • Mikebk

        i will go slow for you then.

        cards give up best prospect and 2 others for 2 months of holliday = blue jays asking price for Halladay who you get for this and next year being more reasonable than others have claimed.

        • Steve O.

          One more time for the slow kids.

    • JohnnyC

      I guess the Mets don’t have a shot at Halladay now. Darn the Cardinals!

      • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

        That’s okay, the Mets are getting Halladay for Parnell, Murphy and Martinez, didn’t you know that?

        • JohnnyC

          Oh my. Not Murphy! Francesa said in April Daniel reminds him of Don Mattingly. Dude!

          And Martinez is just 20! (Only 3 in dog years)

          • Bo

            Why would Francessa ever say that? That doesnt pass the smell test

  • Kilgore Trout

    Mike, can you compare Brett Wallace to AJax?

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      One is white and one is black, therefor, there are no comparisons.

    • Rick in Boston

      They are dissimilar players. Wallace was a college star who is limited defensively but has a more powerful bat. Best comp for the Yankees? Maybe what we had thought Eric Duncan would be?

      • Steve O.

        THEY WERE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!

        /Dennis Green’d

    • Steve O.

      I’m not Mike, but for starters Brett Wallace is a third baseman and Austin Jackson is a centerfielder. And they’ve both put up solid to pretty good numbers in the minors. So I’d assume they project as average to above average regulars. I’ve also heard that Wallace may need to move to first.

      Oh and Wallace is gritty and Jackson is athletic.

      • Drew

        Jackson is flashy.

      • Reggie C.

        Brett Wallace has a ML ready power bat and the other 2 guys could likely be serviceable major leaguers. Billy Beane pulled off a win here.

        • whozat

          fangraphs (or mlbtraderumors) mentioned that Wallace’s bat isn’t THAT powerful. He should hit for average, pop 15-20 homers a year and take a goodly number of walks, though. With solid defense at third, that’s very good. With minus defense at third, or at first base…it’s solid. Cost-controlled, it’s definitely an asset.

          • K.B.D.

            I thought his defense was going to be average at best with there being strong feelings that he would eventually need to move off the position. His range is severely limited if I remember correctly.

            • whozat

              Right. Hence my comment about “minus defense at third, or at first base”

              Still an asset if cost-controlled, young and durable, but…

        • Steve O.

          I wouldn’t say ML ready power bat as he hasn’t slugged over .440 in a season since Hi-A, and when he did in AA it was only in an end of season call up so SSS. I’d say he projects to have average power.

          • Reggie C.

            WOW.

            i just saw video of Wallace on MLB. Dude…please drop 25 pounds!

            I may have been recalling earlier prospect reports on him.

    • whozat

      One’s a fat third baseman and the other is a very athletic CFer. It doesn’t make much sense to compare. Unless you were thinking of Rasmus?

      • Kilgore Trout

        I am very smart. Pause. Not. I thought wallace was an outfielder.

    • pollo

      Lets just say AJax > Wallace.

      He’s not hitting well in PCL and is already 23.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Not the same at all. Wallace may have the best lefthanded bat in the minors and was the best pure hitter in the ’09 draft, but he’s a 1B at best.

  • Reggie C.

    I guess Ankiel isn’t playing much going forward. An OF of Ludwick, Rasmus, and now Holliday isn’t going to need Ankiel.

    Has there ever been a more disastrous walk year than the one Ankiel’s going through?

    • Drew

      I wonder if he’ll be a one year deal guy next year.

      • whozat

        maybe…he’s been so bad that he might be John Rodriguez next year.

      • Reggie C.

        I’d be shocked if Ankiel somehow compiled another 100 AB. Where is he gonna play?

        Drew, I think Ankiel is the one Boras client who’s gotta take a 1 year deal with a team playing in a hitter-friendly park. He’s still young enough to sign a 3/4 year deal and play as a corner OF’er after 2010.

        • Bo

          Doubt Boras at your own peril.

  • Mike HC

    I wonder how it feels to be a player on the A’s. Every player realizes that baseball is a business these days, but the A’s really take it to another level. They just acquire and then flip guys constantly. I get why Beane has to do it but I am just looking from a player’s standpoint. Can you really even feel like a team? That has got to be an interesting clubhouse.

    • Drew

      The thing is, they’re so young, pitching staff on down. I’m sure they’re okay with how things go down. I mean, they’re not the Nats.

      • jsbrendog

        exactly, everything there is doe with the intent to win mostly. the natinals, not so much.

        but the question is, is what he got back for holliday better than what he gave up?

        • K.B.D.

          Street was going to command a decent haul himself (for a reliever) a couple of weeks ago. Carlos Gonzalez was their 2008 BA top prospect (22 overall on their top 100). I’d say Beane might have not played this one so well, but got lucky as Holliday got hot going into the deadline which boosted his value.

        • Mike HC

          Everything is done with the intent to win??? Not at all. Everything is done to save money. If you try to win, you do it like the Yanks, Sox, Cubs (however unsuccesful) etc… basically, you spend money. I understand that Beane can’t control how much his owner wants to spend, but Beane’s move are still made to field a cheap team.

          • Drew

            A cheap team with top talent. Which is a lot different than just fielding a cheap team.

      • Mike HC

        All of their young pitchers have to realize that Oakland is almost like their AAAA teams. A bunch of young guys pop together to field a team, and then one by one, a year or two before they expect their first payday, they get traded off for another young group. I am just saying it would seem like an interesting dynamic for a Major League clubhouse.

    • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

      it’s just the way business is done in oakland.

      They can’t afford big contracts. It’s actually a good thing if you get traded, it usually means you are on your way to a big pay day.

      Funny though, the one long term commitment they gave to Chavez blew up.

      • Bo

        There comes a point where winning has to come before development.

  • jsbrendog

    so, kangaroo court:

    what is better? what he gave up for holliday or what he got back?

    discuss.

    • Drew

      Great job by Beane as it stands right now. For the cards, it’s way to earlt to tell. It’s a great job by Mazeliek depending on how far the cards go this year.

      • jsbrendog

        no i mean by beane for what he sent to colorado as opposed to what he got back from st louis.

        • Drew

          Ah true. Well, as far as giving up Street, it hasn’t really hurt them this year as they’ve had a good bullpen. If I’m reading it right, the pen has a 3.81 ERA. As for Gonzalez, I don’t know much about him other than playing some good outfield defense and not being able to buy a hit in Colorado. I’d say another solid job by Beane.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Beane fleeced them. Six years of Wallace was too much to give up for two months of Holliday to start with.

      • Drew

        But Mike, if it gets them past Torre in the ALCS it will probably be viewed as a success, right?

        • Steve O.

          Not when Wallace is tearing it up for the A’s in a few years.

          • Drew

            Eh, that’s obviously not a sure thing, Holliday is. Him and Pujols in any lineup is a great thing. Puts them in position to run away from the cubs and make the playoffs. It’s not easy to win it all and Mazeliek(or however you spell it) has just made a move that gives them a hell of a shot.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

              I’d actually argue that Holliday is not a sure thing either. He’s a very good player, but as we’ve seen this year, he’s not nearly as elite without Coors Field behind him.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                He’s still really good.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Sure, but that’s still a ton to give up.

      • Steve O.

        That.

        • Bo

          Winning rings is what its all about right?

          And Wallace was behind the best player in the league right?

          And now Pujols gets legit protection.

          I hear all this Wallace talk and i just think about the great Daric Barton.

  • Doug

    “Erik Manning of FanGraphs says the A’s are big winners for acquiring Brett Wallace. Jon Heyman calls it a “great deal” for the A’s and Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus calls it an “outstanding” trade for Oakland.”

    ah, you think it was a good deal for oakland?! ;-)

    • Mike HC

      Looking at it from St. Louis perspective, I guess they felt that Wallace was blocked by Pujols and there is no DH in the NL. They almost had to trade him unless they felt he could play third or OF. The question is, was Wallace highly regarded enough to get a player better than Holliday? Was one even available?

  • Joltin’ Joe

    Seeing that the A’s expected to contend this year and Beane was able to salvage (maybe I should use the word “steal” instead) this haul from the Cards is more than consolation.

  • Mike HC

    Beane essentially swapped Huston Street, Greg Smith and Carlos Gonzalez for Brett Wallace, Shane Peterson and Clayton Mortensen?

    How does that deal stack up?

  • Bo

    Beanie isn’t so smart without Hudson, Zito and Mulder.

    I’m sure the people in love with prospects will sing the praises of what the A’s got. And say they ripped them off for 2 months of a rental. But they are just that. prospects. Holliday helps a first place team actually win now and add to the rings it already has. While Oakland goes thru rebuilding process number I lost count since the 3 stud starters left. And who knows. maybe he stays in St Louis.

    • KG Sturnz0r

      but he has his own video game!

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