Aug
17
2009 Draft: Yanks agree to terms with second rounder JR Murphy
ByVia KLaw, the Yankees have agreed to terms with second rounder JR Murphy. The terms aren’t yet known, but slot money for his pick (#76 overall) was roughly $478,000. He’ll get more than that, probably seven figures. You can learn all about the high school catcher here.
Lane Meyer of NoMaas was all over this earlier today. The Yankees have now signed their top eight picks, and 13 of their top 14 picks.
Update (12:35am): Jim Callis says Murphy received $1.25M. That’s the largest bonus given out in the second round so far this year.
mike, does murphy crack your revised top 10?
I don’t think he cracks the top 10, 11-20 range is more likely.
much thanks
Above or below Chris Smith?
(Drink?)
What’s this Chris Smith talk? Me no understando.
I saw him play this weekend. He was not impressive, at all, in any way.
but he hit .708!! hahahahaha
I’m still pulling for the guy, but come on man, at least be in shape. He’s 20(?) and he looks 45. He looks like Griffey Jr. does now, except in worse shape.
Murphy scouting report
http://blog.imgacademies.com/2.....an-murphy/
The Yankees have now signed their top nine picks
don’t think this is true..tyler lyons was their 9th overall pick
should be 9 of their top 10 haha
You’re right, he was their ninth pick, but a tenth rounder.
ah gotcha! i’m dumb (read: hungover). brooks is considered the 9th man then, correct?
bah this is so dumb. i totally screwed this up! hahahahaha
no 8th man, 9th round.
Lyons was a tenth rounder, but he was their ninth pick because they didn’t have a third rounder.
i was responding to brooks not lyons.
My head hurts. I withdraw my name from this conversation.
unless i am following the nesting of these posts incorrectly.
how about the 1st post on here then, mike
I answered it up there.
who’s on first?
ahhhh hungover Mondays
hahaha i should learn to stop drinking on sunday nights!
If you can’t drink on Sunday, when the hell can ya??
Maybe that would explain our conversation about innings and walks last night.
yes, it most definitely would. that was ROUGH.
simple formula…every player after murphy player number is round number -1.
warren 4th round 3rd player and so on down the list to Stephen Kaupang 50th round 49th player.
callis confirms 1.25 mil for murphy…that’s a lot.
this also explains why some of these other guys are saying the yanks are telling them they cant meet their demands because what on draft day looked like maybe 2.5 mil for heathcott and murphy is now 3.45 million. that’s like lyons and meade potentially in the difference.
again, is there a price you just say “thanks, but no thanks” with these guys so you can sign more of the back-end guys?
im not sure. i wasnt as sold on murphy, but they must really love him considering he got 2.5 times what romine did, 3 times higgy’s number as well.
if you said to me for that i could get 2 of stiles, mitchell, mckenzie i would probably take that, but guess Damon is really high on him.
Presumably there is, but we’re talking about the top 2 picks, and signability cases or not were the two best talents they selected, so to pass by them to sign a few more, lesser talented guys doesn’t make a ton of sense. Especially given the farm could use upside bats more than potential back end of the rotation starters.
I’m sure there is a walk-away number, but I think the players at the top would have to have made pretty outlandish demands – the kind of demands that signal the player isn’t being realistic about his worth and would put him more in the “signability” camp – to push the Yankees to that walk-away point. What I mean is… I’d think the Yanks would have had to have made a pretty massive miscalculation about who these guys are and what they’re expecting/seeking in order to have hit that walk-away number. And, keep in mind, that the walk-away number is probably pretty high because when you start talking about a walk-away number you’re really talking about making the draft an either/or proposition… Either you go for and sign the top picks and then use the leftover money on later picks, OR you decide to definitely not sign the top picks in order to get more quantity later in the draft. I think, unless these guys are asking for completely unreasonable amounts of money, we’d all prefer to get deals done with the most talented guys from the top of the draft and then deal with the later round picks later.
i hear what you and A.D. are saying, and i tend to agree with you guys. just sucks to read that we’re not signing some talented guys (in the own right) lower in the draft because we felt like we had to “overpay” for some guys at the top.
Yeah… But would you rather sign your 1st and 2nd picks, or your 15th, 25th and 30th picks? I just think this issue may be getting a bit overblown. How many guys are the Yankees not signing because of the money allocated to Heathcott and Murphy? (Which, by the way, we’re assuming is more than the Yanks intended to spend on those guys, but we have no idea if that’s true). I’ll take the top 2 guys and take my chances with the later picks. It’s not like the Yankees aren’t signing any of the later picks, here.
that depends on why they were there at 15, 25, 30 cause some of them only fall there because teams are scared off by huge bonus demands not talent issues.
Well… Is that the situation with the guys the Yanks took in the later-rounds this year (some of which the Yanks have signed and are signing, it should be noted, it’s not like they’re not signing any of them)? I’m not so sure it is. There are signability issues, projection issues and talent issues all mixed in there. Clearly the Yankees don’t value the packages presented by those guys as being on the same level as Heathcott and Murphy, or else they wouldn’t have spent as much money as they did on those two guys.
Slot money is always blown up when teams select signability guys late and end up signing them over slot. Slot is the reason for confusion. Hopefully the whole system is blown up soon. Guys are going to get payed what a team feels they deserve(and need to pull them away from college) regardless of what Selig and Co. “recommend.”
“Slot money is always blown up when teams select signability guys late and end up signing them over slot.”
if this is the case, why don’t we just sign these guys right after the draft and save a couple hundred thousand dollars
From what I’ve gleaned, doing so would cause Bud & Co. to have coronaries.
and their not having coronaries now with all the excess $ being thrown around?
…its like telling a close family member or business associate some bad news when the news that’s all around them is so much worse: its sort of a ‘relativity’ camouflage…
PS: And look… I want the Yanks to throw some money around and get some talented players later in the draft as much as everyone else does… But there’s are reasons why they took Heathcott and Murphy in the first and second rounds instead of Lyons and Meade. They determined that Heathcott and Murphy are more important to them than those later guys. Those later-round signability guys may be nice cherries to stick on top of your sundae, but you kinda need to have a good sundae, first.
Overall, who had a better draft in your mind. Yanks or Sox?
can’t really say at this point. the red sox took some solid signability high upside guys (younginer, volz) that i had hoped the yankees would have taken. but at this point who knows if they’ll even pan out? the yankees had a different approach and went for power bats and premium lefty pitching. addressing 2 needs in the system while adding upside? i’m down.
I think both were equally solid this year.
volz was not there with his velocity in the cape this summer in what i read about him.
I don’t know enough about the Sox draft to answer that. I’m not in love with their top pick, Reymond Fuentes. He’s very toolsy, but extreme plate indiscipline.
Yeah, are you surprised they took him over Heathcott or somebody else who may have been available then?
Yes, I was a bit surprised by that pick. They usually go for polish, something Fuentes isn’t.
I know Heathcott has a pretty bad personal life though…which probably hurt his drafting
why? are you judged by what your parents do?
millions of kids all over the world go through this.
so kids are denied from college because their parents are in jail? college graduates wont get hired because of their parents?
ok yes kids get judged, but are they denied college/work?
Um… Yes? Offspring are certainly affected by the deeds, good or bad, of their family.
And Heathcott wasn’t denied college or work, let’s not overreact.
“And Heathcott wasn’t denied college or work, let’s not overreact.”
That was my point? Teams didnt shy away from him because of his parents, just like LSU didnt shy away from him because of his parents, just like if he applied for a job they wouldnt shy away from him because of his parents.
This isn’t really the forum for this but, yes, kids are unable to attend college and other luxuries many of us have because of their parents.
I watched two potential employees not be able to get clearances for their jobs because of their families.
Children could soon become liable for their parents’ debts under filial law, which although largely unenforced,has been on the books since France and England were arguing over to whom we belonged.
“This isn’t really the forum for this but, yes, kids are unable to attend college and other luxuries many of us have because of their parents.”
i wasnt talking about financial situations, if your parents have been in jail or something is that going to prevent a college from taking you? thats my point
I just recall somebody bringing it up in a previous thread that’s all. I don’t even know the details. I was just repeating what was previous posted before.
murphy signed for $1.25M. according to BA, highest bonus in 2nd round and about over 2x slot ($477.9K)
I take it the lack of signing a solid first round SS in the past few years is a good sign Jeter is resigned relatively quickly once his contract is up??
god i hope not, at least not to play shortstop full-time
with the way jete has played at short this year he could still be there 2 more years after this which is more than i thought coming into the year.
i didn’t want him playing shortshop this year. okay, i exaggerate, but not by much
I kind of agreed, but the man has made me eat my words. Whatever he’s doing, he’s turning more balls in play into outs than he has in a long time, and it’s really helped the team out bigtime.
oh, absolutely.
but i still think that next year should be his last playing SS on a full-time basis. i would not sign him to a 3+ year deal if he insists on staying at the position.
He is currently the 2nd most valuable SS in the league. If you move him off short, then his value declines significantly.
yes, but if he can’t play short anymore, you don’t keep him around just because.
It depends how bad his defense is. As one of the best offensive shortstops if he is a sub par defender he is still probably more valuable than an a great defender who is average offensively at the position. The thing is right now he is actually playing very good defense. Given this uptick you have to think he may have found a way to extend his life at the position. It will all depend on how things go next year and beyond, but I think he’ll stay at the position so long as he can give us at least sub-par defense (i.e. he’ll move when he is incapable of playing the position).
Its a similar proposition for Posada. There is no rush to move either of these guys off premier positions if they can still play there and give us elite level offensive production for the position. Posada you give extra rest to keep him healthy, but he is a lot more valuable to us if he can start at least a good chunk of games at C. The same can be said for Jeter whose offense is a lot more valuable at SS than any other position we’d move him to because the production would be much harder to replace at SS.
I have no problem with him staying at SS for 2, possibly 3 more years if he continues to stay viable. This year has been great and if he doesn’t take a step back by much next year…no reason not to believe he can perform there in 2011.
well then you would have been wrong cause he is playing to a near gold glove level.
can’t disagree with you
I mean it means they don’t really have options at SS outside of Jeter, but that doesn’t mean it will be an easy/pretty negotiation.
We do have another option, FA.
Yeah but 2010’s free agent list (after this season) isn’t that enticing…how is the 2011 free agency at SS?? I know Hanley gets expensive after a certain point ($11 million, expensive for the Marlins anyway) but he’s not that great at defense. Hardy hasn’t been all that great, he’s back in AAA. Just trying to think of who else…
and hardy may not even be a FA in 2011. if he doesn’t get called back up soon, his free agency gets pushed back a year.
It’s a sign that there were no SS’s who were the best player on the board when the Yanks drafted in the first round.
that
Who did we draft in place of the Garrett Cole botched draft from last year?
Heathcott.
I’m sure a lot of these questions have been answered and I apologize…I just haven’t been able to check…thought it would be faster for somebody to just type it out than for me to go looking for it haha.
You already knew that Heathcott was the first round pick. What did you need to look up?
maybe he forgot that signing Teix, CC and AJ cost us draft picks.
That was it…
Forgot for whatever reason…
Gerrit Cole’s father just bought Jupiter. He’s that rich.
will they play dis year? or next year?
They’ll report to the GCL Yanks for the remainder of the season.
okie so dey;ll play a little?
Hopefully dey display da skillz so dat dey could make da bank.
ha
IETC
this made me lol IRL
while we are talking about prospects is there any news on Kyle Perkins the australian catcher? i think he is scheduled to come next year but anything else about him recent?
i thought the economy sucked so why are so many teams paying huge bonuses to some of these guys? hoping to stock the farm so they dont have to pay the players they have now in a few years?
i dunno, but as another example, brewers just signed brooks hall for $700K, the 3rd highest in the 4th round and more than 3x recommended slot of $198K.
that was one of the reasons i asked.
via twitter
MLBDraft Rays say they do not expect to sign first- or second-round picks, LeVon Washington and Kenny Diekroeger. #mlbdraft
maybe saving $ for crawford
they did make huge deals for bailey who was considered a 1st round talent and a couple other big overslots
I’m not sure if I believe that they won’t sign either until the deadline passes.
But it’s not like the Rays don’t have 10+ years of high picks filling their minor league system….