Aug
17

2009 Draft: Yanks agree to terms with second rounder JR Murphy

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Via KLaw, the Yankees have agreed to terms with second rounder JR Murphy. The terms aren’t yet known, but slot money for his pick (#76 overall) was roughly $478,000. He’ll get more than that, probably seven figures. You can learn all about the high school catcher here.

Lane Meyer of NoMaas was all over this earlier today. The Yankees have now signed their top eight picks, and 13 of their top 14 picks.

Update (12:35am): Jim Callis says Murphy received $1.25M. That’s the largest bonus given out in the second round so far this year.

Categories : Asides, Draft

104 Comments»

  1. Doug says:

    mike, does murphy crack your revised top 10?

  2. Stryker says:

    The Yankees have now signed their top nine picks

    don’t think this is true..tyler lyons was their 9th overall pick

  3. Stryker says:

    ah gotcha! i’m dumb (read: hungover). brooks is considered the 9th man then, correct?

  4. Mike bk says:

    simple formula…every player after murphy player number is round number -1.

    warren 4th round 3rd player and so on down the list to Stephen Kaupang 50th round 49th player.

  5. Mike bk says:

    callis confirms 1.25 mil for murphy…that’s a lot.

    • Mike bk says:

      this also explains why some of these other guys are saying the yanks are telling them they cant meet their demands because what on draft day looked like maybe 2.5 mil for heathcott and murphy is now 3.45 million. that’s like lyons and meade potentially in the difference.

      • Doug says:

        again, is there a price you just say “thanks, but no thanks” with these guys so you can sign more of the back-end guys?

        • Mike bk says:

          im not sure. i wasnt as sold on murphy, but they must really love him considering he got 2.5 times what romine did, 3 times higgy’s number as well.

          if you said to me for that i could get 2 of stiles, mitchell, mckenzie i would probably take that, but guess Damon is really high on him.

        • A.D. says:

          Presumably there is, but we’re talking about the top 2 picks, and signability cases or not were the two best talents they selected, so to pass by them to sign a few more, lesser talented guys doesn’t make a ton of sense. Especially given the farm could use upside bats more than potential back end of the rotation starters.

        • I’m sure there is a walk-away number, but I think the players at the top would have to have made pretty outlandish demands – the kind of demands that signal the player isn’t being realistic about his worth and would put him more in the “signability” camp – to push the Yankees to that walk-away point. What I mean is… I’d think the Yanks would have had to have made a pretty massive miscalculation about who these guys are and what they’re expecting/seeking in order to have hit that walk-away number. And, keep in mind, that the walk-away number is probably pretty high because when you start talking about a walk-away number you’re really talking about making the draft an either/or proposition… Either you go for and sign the top picks and then use the leftover money on later picks, OR you decide to definitely not sign the top picks in order to get more quantity later in the draft. I think, unless these guys are asking for completely unreasonable amounts of money, we’d all prefer to get deals done with the most talented guys from the top of the draft and then deal with the later round picks later.

          • Doug says:

            i hear what you and A.D. are saying, and i tend to agree with you guys. just sucks to read that we’re not signing some talented guys (in the own right) lower in the draft because we felt like we had to “overpay” for some guys at the top.

            • Yeah… But would you rather sign your 1st and 2nd picks, or your 15th, 25th and 30th picks? I just think this issue may be getting a bit overblown. How many guys are the Yankees not signing because of the money allocated to Heathcott and Murphy? (Which, by the way, we’re assuming is more than the Yanks intended to spend on those guys, but we have no idea if that’s true). I’ll take the top 2 guys and take my chances with the later picks. It’s not like the Yankees aren’t signing any of the later picks, here.

              • Mike bk says:

                that depends on why they were there at 15, 25, 30 cause some of them only fall there because teams are scared off by huge bonus demands not talent issues.

                • Well… Is that the situation with the guys the Yanks took in the later-rounds this year (some of which the Yanks have signed and are signing, it should be noted, it’s not like they’re not signing any of them)? I’m not so sure it is. There are signability issues, projection issues and talent issues all mixed in there. Clearly the Yankees don’t value the packages presented by those guys as being on the same level as Heathcott and Murphy, or else they wouldn’t have spent as much money as they did on those two guys.

              • Drew says:

                Slot money is always blown up when teams select signability guys late and end up signing them over slot. Slot is the reason for confusion. Hopefully the whole system is blown up soon. Guys are going to get payed what a team feels they deserve(and need to pull them away from college) regardless of what Selig and Co. “recommend.”

                • Doug says:

                  “Slot money is always blown up when teams select signability guys late and end up signing them over slot.”

                  if this is the case, why don’t we just sign these guys right after the draft and save a couple hundred thousand dollars

                • Drew says:

                  From what I’ve gleaned, doing so would cause Bud & Co. to have coronaries.

                • Doug says:

                  and their not having coronaries now with all the excess $ being thrown around?

                • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

                  …its like telling a close family member or business associate some bad news when the news that’s all around them is so much worse: its sort of a ‘relativity’ camouflage…

              • PS: And look… I want the Yanks to throw some money around and get some talented players later in the draft as much as everyone else does… But there’s are reasons why they took Heathcott and Murphy in the first and second rounds instead of Lyons and Meade. They determined that Heathcott and Murphy are more important to them than those later guys. Those later-round signability guys may be nice cherries to stick on top of your sundae, but you kinda need to have a good sundae, first.

  6. Makavelli says:

    Overall, who had a better draft in your mind. Yanks or Sox?

    • Stryker says:

      can’t really say at this point. the red sox took some solid signability high upside guys (younginer, volz) that i had hoped the yankees would have taken. but at this point who knows if they’ll even pan out? the yankees had a different approach and went for power bats and premium lefty pitching. addressing 2 needs in the system while adding upside? i’m down.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I don’t know enough about the Sox draft to answer that. I’m not in love with their top pick, Reymond Fuentes. He’s very toolsy, but extreme plate indiscipline.

      • Makavelli says:

        Yeah, are you surprised they took him over Heathcott or somebody else who may have been available then?

      • Makavelli says:

        I know Heathcott has a pretty bad personal life though…which probably hurt his drafting

        • Zack says:

          why? are you judged by what your parents do?

          • Drew says:

            millions of kids all over the world go through this.

            • Zack says:

              so kids are denied from college because their parents are in jail? college graduates wont get hired because of their parents?

              ok yes kids get judged, but are they denied college/work?

              • Um… Yes? Offspring are certainly affected by the deeds, good or bad, of their family.

                And Heathcott wasn’t denied college or work, let’s not overreact.

                • Zack says:

                  “And Heathcott wasn’t denied college or work, let’s not overreact.”

                  That was my point? Teams didnt shy away from him because of his parents, just like LSU didnt shy away from him because of his parents, just like if he applied for a job they wouldnt shy away from him because of his parents.

              • Drew says:

                This isn’t really the forum for this but, yes, kids are unable to attend college and other luxuries many of us have because of their parents.

                • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

                  I watched two potential employees not be able to get clearances for their jobs because of their families.

                  Children could soon become liable for their parents’ debts under filial law, which although largely unenforced,has been on the books since France and England were arguing over to whom we belonged.

                • Zack says:

                  “This isn’t really the forum for this but, yes, kids are unable to attend college and other luxuries many of us have because of their parents.”

                  i wasnt talking about financial situations, if your parents have been in jail or something is that going to prevent a college from taking you? thats my point

        • Makavelli says:

          I just recall somebody bringing it up in a previous thread that’s all. I don’t even know the details. I was just repeating what was previous posted before.

  7. Doug says:

    murphy signed for $1.25M. according to BA, highest bonus in 2nd round and about over 2x slot ($477.9K)

  8. Makavelli says:

    I take it the lack of signing a solid first round SS in the past few years is a good sign Jeter is resigned relatively quickly once his contract is up??

    • Doug says:

      god i hope not, at least not to play shortstop full-time

      • Mike bk says:

        with the way jete has played at short this year he could still be there 2 more years after this which is more than i thought coming into the year.

        • Doug says:

          i didn’t want him playing shortshop this year. okay, i exaggerate, but not by much

          • whozat says:

            I kind of agreed, but the man has made me eat my words. Whatever he’s doing, he’s turning more balls in play into outs than he has in a long time, and it’s really helped the team out bigtime.

            • Doug says:

              oh, absolutely.

              but i still think that next year should be his last playing SS on a full-time basis. i would not sign him to a 3+ year deal if he insists on staying at the position.

              • Chris says:

                He is currently the 2nd most valuable SS in the league. If you move him off short, then his value declines significantly.

                • Doug says:

                  yes, but if he can’t play short anymore, you don’t keep him around just because.

                • Bill says:

                  It depends how bad his defense is. As one of the best offensive shortstops if he is a sub par defender he is still probably more valuable than an a great defender who is average offensively at the position. The thing is right now he is actually playing very good defense. Given this uptick you have to think he may have found a way to extend his life at the position. It will all depend on how things go next year and beyond, but I think he’ll stay at the position so long as he can give us at least sub-par defense (i.e. he’ll move when he is incapable of playing the position).

                  Its a similar proposition for Posada. There is no rush to move either of these guys off premier positions if they can still play there and give us elite level offensive production for the position. Posada you give extra rest to keep him healthy, but he is a lot more valuable to us if he can start at least a good chunk of games at C. The same can be said for Jeter whose offense is a lot more valuable at SS than any other position we’d move him to because the production would be much harder to replace at SS.

              • Klemy says:

                I have no problem with him staying at SS for 2, possibly 3 more years if he continues to stay viable. This year has been great and if he doesn’t take a step back by much next year…no reason not to believe he can perform there in 2011.

          • Mike bk says:

            well then you would have been wrong cause he is playing to a near gold glove level.

    • A.D. says:

      I mean it means they don’t really have options at SS outside of Jeter, but that doesn’t mean it will be an easy/pretty negotiation.

      • Klemy says:

        We do have another option, FA.

        • Makavelli says:

          Yeah but 2010′s free agent list (after this season) isn’t that enticing…how is the 2011 free agency at SS?? I know Hanley gets expensive after a certain point ($11 million, expensive for the Marlins anyway) but he’s not that great at defense. Hardy hasn’t been all that great, he’s back in AAA. Just trying to think of who else…

          • Doug says:

            and hardy may not even be a FA in 2011. if he doesn’t get called back up soon, his free agency gets pushed back a year.

    • whozat says:

      It’s a sign that there were no SS’s who were the best player on the board when the Yanks drafted in the first round.

  9. Makavelli says:

    Who did we draft in place of the Garrett Cole botched draft from last year?

  10. G says:

    will they play dis year? or next year?

  11. G says:

    okie so dey;ll play a little?

  12. Mike bk says:

    while we are talking about prospects is there any news on Kyle Perkins the australian catcher? i think he is scheduled to come next year but anything else about him recent?

  13. Mike bk says:

    i thought the economy sucked so why are so many teams paying huge bonuses to some of these guys? hoping to stock the farm so they dont have to pay the players they have now in a few years?

  14. Jake H says:

    via twitter

    MLBDraft Rays say they do not expect to sign first- or second-round picks, LeVon Washington and Kenny Diekroeger. #mlbdraft

  15. [...] Baseball America rated Murphy the 12th best prospect in the state and 95th best prospect overall heading into the 2009 Draft. Keith Law rated him the 88th best prospect in the class. Despite having considerable depth behind the plate, the Yankees selected Murphy with their second pick, #76 overall, which they received as compensation for failing to sign second rounder Scott Bittle in 2008. Committed to Miami, his signing wasn’t announced until the morning of the August 17th deadline because he received a well above slot $1.25M bonus. [...]

  16. [...] 2.2009 Draft: Yanks agree to terms with second rounder JR Murphy | I’m still pulling for the guy, but come on man, at least be in shape. He’s 20(?) and he looks 45. He looks like Griffey Jr. does now, except in worse shape. … Hardy hasn’t been all that great, he’s back in AAA. Just trying to think of who else… … If this is your first time commenting on River Ave. Blues, http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....phy-15995/ [...]

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