Aug
17
2009 Draft: Yanks sign Caleb Cotham
ByVia Jim Callis, the Yankees have signed fifth rounder Caleb Cotham to $675,000 bonus, considerably overslot. The draft eligible sophomore out of Vanderbilt struck out 84 in 79 IP last year, and put up a nice and clean 0.00 ERA in 13 IP in the Cape Cod League this summer.
Use this thread throughout the day to talk about draft signings and what not. I’ll post more updates as players sign.
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91-94 with a plus slider has got me intrigued.
and nomass thinks he’ll be “the best pitcher the Yankees will take away from this draft.”
his nickname on the blogs from yankee fans is PMJ (Poor man’s joba) which we would all take.
So we have the Rich Mans Joba, and the Poor Mans Joba?
No. I think Rich Man’s Joba would be someone like Roger Clemens. Joba’s not Rich Man’s Joba, he’s just Joba.
indeed
The Yankees are ruining baseball with all these signings.
ha
yes while the sox are saving it by spending twice as much on their 3rd rounder as the yanks have spent on anyone so far this draft.
That doesn’t make him better though. Renfroe’s got some swing issues that need to be fixed.
More money does not necessarily mean more talent.
i didnt say it did, unless you read something else into it. it was a comment on the media bias b/w the sox and the yanks.
I’m an idiot, my mistake. I thought you were bitching about the Sox kicking the Yankees asses in the draft.
My apologies.
they are though, aren’t they? Lots of high upside highschoolers, while we settled for a lot of college arms.
College arms with upside though. Most of these guys sit 91-93 at least, and a lot of them can reach 95, so it’s not like they are all guys with marginal stuff.
I mean they didn’t settle for college arms, the chose college arms.
mike, who’s the one guy you’d like to see get inked today (besides heathcott and murphy)?
Chad Thompson, but I’m a sucker for big projectable high school arms.
Sweeeet
here’s to hoping that the yanks are watching teams like the royals and even to a lesser but more pertinent extent the Rays and Sox give out these huge overslot deals and decide to up whatever this budget is today and get the players on talent not just fitting the budget figure. lets remember the yanks are going to be saving about 30 million in salary next year so the money can be there. spending money on prospects in IFA or the draft saves money in FA down the line. i know the draft and IFA are no locks to produce down the line, but even if 1 of 3 pan out you could be saving 10+ mil a year down the line by spending 500K now.
Slade and murphy are locks i hope. i hope you are right about Stiles lane. i would love to see slade, murphy, stiles, thompson, mitchell, mckenzie (seems like he is going to tulane), possibly deluca and at least one of lyons and meade (they are probably fall backs if they dont get the HS pitchers). i really hope the yanks arent passing on lyons and meade to close on breuning as the other two clearly outpitched him in the cape. i cant see the asking price of meade or lyons being what cotham just got and if it the 500K that was speculated about earlier i think they earned it with their summer showings. thoughts?
i think they should, and probably do, take it on a pick-by-pick basis. Just because you have money, shouldnt mean you have to spend it.
as for the cape, maybe im mistaken but dont pitcher usually have great numbers there because of the hitters struggles with the switch to wood bats?
by that logic it should be the same at GCL and SI so we should discount what our pitchers do there as well shouldnt we?
No, I just dont think its wise to blow up your budget because of a 15 or so inning sample size.
then you obviously didnt follow it. cotham was 13 innings cause he was hurt when it started.
Meade 42.1IN 1.91 ERA 33H 18BB 47K
Lyons 45.2IN 1.77 ERA 35H 8BB 44K
We also don’t know how much money those guys wanted.
from what i have read on both lyons and meade at least at the start of the summer the rumored numbers were about 500K. maybe those went up after they dominated in the cape, but 500K doesnt seem unreasonable.
EXACTLY. it was reported they were looking for around 500k initially, but it’s possible that oppenheimer and co. just weren’t in love with those guys to begin with*. while they did have very strong performances in the CCL, it’s also possible that they believe they can get the same kind of production from some of the young high school pitchers they took in the late rounds — at a significantly cheaper price.
*see my post below.
the HS’ers in all likelihood would cost more to break those commits like stiles to UNC.
The Cape is extremely pitcher friendly, you have to take those numbers with a grain of salt. Did anyone even hit .300 this year? Usually it’s one or two guys, that’s it.
at least the top 10 according to the leaderboard. not sure how many others did.
read a nomaas interview with oppenheimer not too long ago and from what i recall, he said basically what they do is they take all these signability guys, right? then they pick the ones they REALLY want and go after them hard. and if they don’t work out they go back and work on the rest. i can only assume meade and lyons weren’t from that initial group of guys and the line “we don’t believe we’ll have the money to sign you” could very well mean that the demands of some of the guys from that first group of guys have risen. ergo, they’re more willing to move the funds that would go toward meade/lyons/whoever and use them to go for the guys they REALLY, REALLY want. i can only assume this means the high school guys like deluca and stiles.
it’s quarter of 11, i woke up 10 minutes ago and i’m incredibly hungover — i hope this makes sense.
So nice you posted it twice?
Maybe next time read the comment before doing the old copy/paste, though. I don’t think Lane writes here (see second paragraph, second sentence).
its actually the first sentence and i did add some to what i posted over there about the FA savings down the road. lol.
Heh, just messing with you. It is the second sentence, though, unless I’ve killed so many brain cells I’ve forgotten what periods mean.
Most likely will sign: Heathcott, Murphy
Returning to school: Baltz, Aplin, Bailey, Bruno, Lyons, Matyas, McKenzie, Keeling (most likely)
Unknown: Mitchell, Thompson, Talerico, Soignier, Meade (not sure), Ebert, Petricka, Bruening, Ottoson, Stiles, Black, DeLuca, Plagman, Brown, White, Esquivel, Kaupang
keeling has been definite to school for a while. meade and lyons are likely for school but hopefully they get one
Soignier is not signing, I thought.
http://ulm.scout.com/a.z?s=346.....75821.html
Here’s to winning the World Series, having a ton of revenue, and drafting overslot on every pick next year!
I think that Yanks will get a good amount of guys signed.
I thought Meade was a goner, no?
from Jim Callis
“Re Heathcott/Murphy: Yes. I think they have several deals done or all but done that they’re sitting on”
The word is the physical is all that stands in the way, where as Cotham had a physical this weekend.
put up a nice and clean 0.00 ERA
Guess you can’t do much better than that. Good that his knee is healthy, and apparently that helped him with some velo & control reading through Nomaas’s stuff.
apparently heathcotts facebook says he is a yankee. love how bud’s control over announcing overslot deals has been taken out by facebook. haha.
Slade Heathcott > Bud Selig.
You sure it’s his real facebook?
well if it’s not it has really good info since it came out thru lane at nomaas saying he spoke with slade right after.
Yea I was just saying because did we ever find out if that was the other dudes (Name totally slipped my mind) real myspace.
Axisa,
with all these potential HS players Tate, Wheeler, Miller, Purke, Matzek still not signed though i think the first 3 will get done do you think more players are going to get drafted as High schoolers and if they dont sign go JUCO so they can be in the draft next year as well, or just go to school and wait 3 years?
Heathcott just signed!!!!!!!!
Slade just told Lane at NoMaas that he signed.
like i said he told facebook first. lol.
Cotham is a good signing, Heathcott and Murphy are obviously the most important. I would like to see 2 of Meade, Lyons or Thompson get signed, but it’s not likely.
how many of this years draft class will in that top 30 due out sometime this week? I’m thinking possibly 5 or 6 possibly.
Dude, what? Haha.
axisa’s top 30 yankee prospects. not the mlb ones. relax.
Why are teling me to relax? I couldn’t comprehend what you were saying. Sheesh.
JR Murphy signed.
All the Ynaks need to do is sign Sano today, and the Death Star will be in full working order.
Even though I like the name “Ynaks”, I ment Yanks.
and by ment, I mean “meant”.
I’m sorry man we are just gonna have to let you go.
I totally understand.
We need some coffee over here.
Natinals vs. Ynaks = battle of epic-misspelling proportions.
murphy just signed as well
Fist pump
Murphy signed!!
Good to hear so far today. This gives Damon and crew time to go back and work on the other signability guys.
that was my thought. now they have 12 hours to sign 3-4 more if they have the budget and desire to get them done. hoping for stiles, mitchell, thompson and one of lyons or meade. that would be three upside hs pitchers and a lefty college capping off a good draft haul. i like mckenzie as well but he seems like he is going to tulane.
Relax
Haha Teix, I was wondering if you were going to throw that “relax” back at bk. I myself also can’t stand when people tell me to relax, especially when I’m not even worked up.
Does Heathcott project to be better than Ajax? And when do you think we see him?
Yes. See him where, in the bigs? Not for a few years, 2012 or so.
that’s a relatively quick path. he would be what 21 then?
Birthday: September 28, 1990
numbers don’t lie
You’re right, my bad. 2013 is more likely.
Where the hell does the time go…
both will be starting in the GCL, correct? It will be fun to follow them together along with Turley, and some others.
Hopefully, a few more names are squeezed out. I want more, more, MORE!
is stoneburner actually done because lane reported he signed off a tip from someone and later said Damon said it wasnt completely done but real close?
Baseball America comfirmed it as well.
almost midday & the drama with the draft picks is over. GOOD! now lets get chad thompson & aplin then call it a day.
only drama left today concerns 3 guys imo: strasberg, matzek, & tate.
looks like aplin is going to forgo playing pro..i read he was going to college.
purke is far apart as well. it appears tate might get done according to reports over the weekend. aplin said a week ago he is going to asu.
$2.2M for heathcott according to BA
yeah not a fan of that at all lol. that’s like, what, top 20 money?
or better
more like top 10 maybe top 8.
his slot was $1.107M, so he signed for double.
his agent did have us over a barrel though
yikesssss…apparently over 2 mil for the heathcott signing.
this might be why there isnt money for the lyons and meade’s of the draft class cause on draft day the spec on slade was more like 1.8 so that 400K comes from someone else.
yup. but you “had” to sign him
very very true. that ‘something unexpected’ could have been the fact that they were a) trying to sweeten the pot for slade/murphy or b) they knew we HAD to sign those guys so they stalled and asked for the $$.
Thank you no big dissapointment
I’m looking for numbers on Heathcott & Murphy. have they been published anywhere?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1611
u win.
lost an earlier one, so i’ll take what i can get
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1611
Guys, there’s a thread for Heathcott up: http://tinyurl.com/ot45s9
Good for slade. He got the money he wanted.
$1.1 was recommended…so we doubled it. Hmm…
If Matsui goes on the DL, sign Billy Hall to the minimum?
Any word of the late round guys … still looking to sign some of those high upside high school and JuCo players … any thoughts?