Aug
04

Assessing possible waiver pickups

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With the trade deadline behind us, teams are limited in the players they can acquire. Rather than having unrestricted trading access with the other 29 clubs, each team is restricted to players who clear waivers, or on whom they make a claim. Yankees GM Brian Cashman harkens back to earlier in this decade, when he, using the Yankees financial might, put in claims on nearly everyone in order to block trades to rivals. This year, with many teams at or above their target payroll, putting in a claim leaves a team at risk of absorbing a poor contract.

Cashman says he expects more activity in August this year than in years past, but considering the lay of the land, that might not be the case. As it stands the Red Sox are behind the Yankees in the standings, so they have a chance to put in a claim first. When the Jays place Roy Halladay on waivers — and they certainly will — the Sox will almost certainly put in a claim. Even then, a team like Texas or Detroit might place their claim first, effectively cutting out the Sox. The pickings could be slim by the time it gets to the Yanks and Sox.

Still, there are some extraordinarily bad contracts out there and not even the Sox, with their relatively low payroll, will dare put in a claim. That could open the negotiating table for the Yankees to acquire that fifth starter they sought last week. Problem is, few if any of the potential options do the Yankees much good. Jon Heyman breaks down the players who will clear and who might clear. He adds those who won’t clear but could be dealt to a claiming team, but the Yankees aren’t in a position to be dealing with those players.

The pitchers include Bronson Arroyo, to whom we should just say no; Aaron Harang, who is pitching like a No. 5 but is being paid like a No. 2; Miguel Batista, who is 38 (!!), hasn’t started a game this year, is walking 5.2 per nine innings, and despite the M’s stellar defense has allowed 10.1 hits per nine; Juan Cruz, who is pitching horribly (and people wanted to kill Cashman in April for not signing him); and Ron Mahay, whose walks would make us want to throw a brick through the TV.

There are still some who could clear waivers. With the Red Sox behind the Yankees in the standings, it’s not likely. As Heyman writes, “The Yankees need a No. 5 starter, and the Red Sox know it.” Yet, let’s not forget that the Red Sox could use another starter themselves. The question, of course, is of whether they’d jettison Brad Penny or John Smoltz for a better option. The further question is of whether any of the might-clear names represent any kind of significant upgrade.

Of the players who might clear waivers, Heyman calls Jon Garland dependably mediocre, while I call him dependably crappy — his K rate continues to decline despite a move to the sissy league; Doug Davis, who leads the NL in walks — and the Yankees already have the AL leader; and Gil Meche, who like Harang is pitching like a No. 5 but is being paid like a No. 2. It doesn’t help that Meche hasn’t pitched a game since July 11 and has basically been pitching hurt to some degree all season. Oh, and don’t forget Uncle Ronny Villone, whose 1:1 K/BB ratio just isn’t welcome back in New York.

With Sergio Mitre holding down the fifth spot, there is plenty of room to improve. But look at the names above. Do any of them represent a true upgrade? Perhaps marginal, but even then you have to factor in the cost to acquire the player. At that point even a marginal upgrade might turn into a long-term downgrade. All that just for a few runs saved. Given what we know about Brian Cashman’s M.O., it’s safe to say that he’ll stay away from this crop.

The best thing that could happen to the Yankees is for some improvement in the bullpen. If Brian Bruney finally regains his form (and he was pretty good in the first 1.1 innings he pitched on Saturday), if Mark Melancon keeps throwing like he has his last three times out, if Damaso Marte can come back strong, and if Al Aceves is really only suffering from shoulder fatigue, the Yanks will have a strong bullpen even without Phil Hughes. While some think it’s too risky to put him back in the rotation after a long stint in the pen, he’s clearly their best option to fill the fifth starter hole. He can always return to the bullpen for the playoffs (though at that point you might see Joba in the pen and Phil in the rotation).

That’s a lot that has to go right, though, including the transition of Hughes back to the rotation. It’s not at all likely, and the Yankees face the prospect of Sergio Mitre or, gasp, Kei Igawa filling the fifth spot in their rotation for the rest of the year. There’s always the Jason Hirsh experiment, but that’s just as unlikely as the above scenarios. The Yankees are not in an easy spot with their pitching staff right now. They can, however, take solace in knowing that every other team in the AL has similar problems. It’s just a matter of whose are more exposed down the stretch. The above-mentioned players aren’t going to turn it around for any staff.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    That’s a little depressing. There does not seem to be much out there.

    • POCKO

      And, that is not counting what they are going to have to do with Joba to slow him down. Another young pitcher just bit the dust with TJ after his workload went up dramatically. I think it’s a warning sign.

    • Derek_Hall

      Is it not time for Sidney Ponson ;)

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    You ready? Here’s a name: Carl Pavano.

    Boom. That just happened.

    • whozat

      He’s among the least bad, with the worst reasons against acquiring him…the fans and the team hate him. That’s his biggest downside.

    • Jacob

      I feel like I should take a hot shower.

    • DreDog

      Wow, that did just happen. I am nervous and scared.

      In an ideal world, the Red Sox would claim him on waivers and trade for him. You know the rest.

    • Manimal

      I believe cash already proclaimed he wouldnt do that to the team.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You ready? Here’s a name: Carl Pavano.

      Well, Mussina’s gone, so that’s one obstacle removed.

      • Bo

        Dont know what would cause more of a revolt in the clubhouse. Igawa or Pavano.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Probably Pavano. But he’d be the much smarter option to fill the 5th inning role, which is why you don’t let the 25 man roster of players have veto power over personnel moves.

          They all probably hate Pavano and like Igawa way better, but Igawa can’t get major league hitters out. Carl Pavano can.

    • scoopemup

      Boom….Darrell Rasner.Oh crap, Darrell Rasner.

      • Derek_Hall

        Don’t worry, upon his request, Rasner was sold to a Japanese team last winter.

        GET GARLAND!

  • Manimal

    Honestly though, Harang>Arroyo>Mitre. Although we are in dire need of some more starters, I wouldnt panic yet until Marte comes back and one of Aceves or Hughes gets bumped into the rotation.

    • Jacob

      On pure performance I agree with you. Not, however, in what it would cost us. But ideally, yes, Marte comes back strong and the bullpen solidifies so Hughes can go back to the rotation because Hughes>>>>>>Harang>Arroyo>Mitre.

  • Tom Zig

    Adam Dunn?

    No spot for him this year, but there is next year…

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I think their plan is get a little more athletic out there. They’re trying to get away from the big lumbering slugger types. Can’t say I blame them.

      • Tom Zig

        Well I sure didn’t mean for him to take Johnny Damon’s place. I meant Matsui’s. I’m sure he is more athletic than Matsui.

        • Jacob

          If there was something to do with Matsui, I would love to have Adam Dunn as a full time DH this year.

          • DreDog

            I think the plan use the DH for Posada and A-Rod a little more in next few years.

      • Adam

        carl crawford says hi

        • scoopemup

          As does Alex Rios.

          • scoopemup

            …As does Josh Willingham.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              All three of them are under contract for 2010 and thus need to be traded for, so the Yankees say “bye” to all three.

  • Cody Ransom

    Hey guys, I can pitch!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    And we have our first August trade:

    http://tinyurl.com/n3q3sq

    • DreDog

      He obviously was on his way to becoming an Ace until the Red Sox traded him away.

    • jsbrendog

      who and what was it? link blocked at work

  • DreDog

    Seriously, I would take Jon Garland for a bag of baseballs. I say that thinking he and Mitre would be starting if Joba moves to the ‘pen.

    He also has pitched very well in the playoffs. He complete gamed the LAA!!!

    No seriously, he sucks, but I would take him over any of the others. And, he needs a $2.5 million buyout for ’10 instead of one more year of crappy like Harang & Arroyo.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      I wouldn’t be opposed to getting him, I don’t think he is good, but I do think he would be the best option as of right now.

      • DreDog

        His G/F is on Team USA Softball and she ain’t bad to look at for a softball player. That has to count for something right?

        • Johan Iz My Brohan

          Could we sign her? I think pitching underhand would fool a ton of batters.

          • DreDog

            She plays 2nd. Watch out Robbie!

        • Rick in Boston

          If we’re looking at guys who like softball players, the Yanks should just go after Casey Daigle.

  • Dela G

    This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, but Neftali Feliz, the kid the rangers got in the Marky T deal was sick nasty. Struck out the first 4 batters faced with 101 mph fastballs and 82 mph slider. He throws a 91 mph changeup!

    wow was he something else even though it was against the As

    But anyways, back to the topic

    • Salty Buggah

      I wonder if ESPN start the Feliz to the 8th thing once he’s a starter again? Texas did say they are hoping for “Joba 2007″ out of him.

      • Dela G

        same here

      • whozat

        Why would they do that? This kid could be a dominant starter! It’d be stupid not to give him a shot in the rotation.

        But the Yankees really need that bridge to Mo. They’re so stupid for ruining the best setup man in baseball.

    • Tom Zig

      doesn’t a 91 mph changeup defeat the purpose of the changeup?

      • whozat

        …no. It’s a change up off your fastball.

        I mean, if the first thing the guy sees in the 91MPH change, yeah.

        But if you show him the 100MPH fastball, and then throw a pitch that’s 9MPH slower, that’s exactly what you’re going for.

        • Dela G

          bingo

        • ShuutoHeat

          wouldn’t hurt to shave a few more miles off that change up though

  • Adam

    im waiting for the day when the ghost makes his triumphant return to the bronx…

    god help us all

  • Salty Buggah

    Wait, what about Duchscherer?

    • DreDog

      You’re right, but I think the Red Sox would block that deal.
      Buttheads.
      I would take Duchscherer over any of these guys.

      • Johan Iz My Brohan

        Hopefully we suck for one day so we can drop below the sox in the standings, thus claiming him before they do.

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, I thought so. Here’s the plan:

        We lose tomorrow and Sox lose tomorrow too. We win the day after but I think the Sox might too. So, we lose the 1st game to the Sox, therefore putting them up by half a game. We claim Duke, then when the remaining 3 games.

        Would that work?

        • zs190

          The A’s would have to cooperate on that, is that even within rules to do? Arrange a specific day to waiver somebody?

        • the artist formerly known as (sic)

          yeah no problem! i’ll inform girardi to make this happen.

        • Pasqua

          As crazy as it sounds, I’m sure there’s a piece of Cashman that is hoping for a brief stint in second place. It would be quite a bizarro world to imagine the Sox taking first place and Epstein quietly muttering, “Shit.”

        • Kiersten

          Joba is NOT losing to Smoltz. Period.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Jamey Carroll? at least he’s going to be better than Ransom.

    • whozat

      That’s what Hairston is for.

      Ransom should go at the expense of anyone at all. Gardner, when he’s back, but Shelley or Miranda would even be more useful right now.

    • Mike Pop

      Got Jerry Hairston Jr.

    • Salty Buggah

      wont need him (and Ransom) once Gardy returns because we have Hairston.

  • Charlie

    would matt murton make it through waivers? i remember he was brought up way earlier in the season. he’s not a pitcher obviously, but he seems like a good fit for the yanks system

    • whozat

      He’s young and useful. He would definitely not make it through waivers.

      • Johan Iz My Brohan

        Most importantly, his brother plays on the SI Yankees. Now only if there was a way to pry Chris Duncan away from the Sox to join Shelley…let’s put a package together starting with Montero, Ajax, Hughes, and Joba, let the Sox add whoever they want to that package and we may, just may, be able to get Chris Duncan from the Sox.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      i like Willingham too but he’s not going to make it through waivers too.

      • whozat

        How would he help the pitching situation? That’s the only thing worth dealing for.

  • http://twitter.com/JamalG Jamal G.

    David Eckstein, Padres infielder: A bargain for 850 grand. Worth it for attitude alone.

    See, this is the reason why I can’t take Jon Heyman seriously unless he’s reporting something. Sorry, but his .302 wOBA and shit-tastic defense up the middle (-18.8 and -12 UZR/150 marks at short stop in the 2008 and 2007 seasons, respectively; -4.8 UZR/150 at second base this season) is not masked by whatever intangible benefit his dwarfism is perceived to generate.

    • Tom Zig

      Dustin Pedroia is a toolsy David Eckstein

      /ESPN

    • Salty Buggah

      Damn, you beat me. I was going to post that. I found that very hilarious.

    • Pasqua

      David Eckstein has had, like, 5 good games as a player. The fact that they’ve all been nationally televised has helped to create the myth that he’s actually good at baseball.

  • lily

    i know he hasn’t pitched all year but what about paul byrd? sign him to a minor league deal see how he does. out of harrang arroyo and garland, i would def take garland than the other two. they all suck but man mitre is just horrible!

    AND NO TO IGAWA!

    • whozat

      YOu’d take Garland over Harang? Why?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Cost. Garland would be cheaper in both dollars and prospects.

        • Russell NY

          I would welcome Garland as a #5. I wanted him in his transition from White Sox to Angels.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I would also welcome Garland as a #5, and I did NOT want him in his transition from the White Sox to the Angels.

            Jon Garland should only be turned to in an emergency and for a very short window of usage. Which describes now perfectly. Trade a non-prospect for him, use him for two months as the lesser of multiple evils, then throw him away into the tall grass never to be seen again.

            • Bill

              Garland is definitely the best option if available. The guy is a quality start machine who consistently goes deep into games. In his past 12 starts he has gone at least 6 innings in each game and only 2 of those starts were not quality starts. He is exactly what we need in that #5 spot someone who can keep us in the game and get it to our bullpen.

              I also like Duchscherer.

              Hopefully these guys make it to us on the waiver wire. If not the rest of the crop is pretty much garbage both either Garland or Duchscherer could be great midseason pickups.

  • Brian

    Anybody know what Hughes’ innings cap is? I was looking at his innings totals, including AFL/minors, and it seems like his cap should be between 135 and 150, tops. So far, he’s at 82.1. If he gets built up, he would probably make about nine starts at this point, say six innings each and you are in that range. I think the delay in pushing him in the rotation may be just this. Probably commented on several times here; sorry if it has…

    • whozat

      He threw 146 innings in 2006. So he’s probably good for at least 170. Not that he’d even get close to that at this point.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Yup. Since we wasted him in the bullpen for two full months, his innings limit is now moot.

        • Mac

          I really don’t think anyone can say Hughes was wasted in the pen – it would be hard to believe that the Yanks would be in first (or maybe second) without him there.

          As someone else said – Hughes as a starter right now may have been only league average or possibly worse – the key right now is to find someone who can give you what Hughes can as a starter right now.

          My opinion is just that, an opinion as to what Hughes can do as a starter today – I think its all conjecture on either side – we just don’t know how Hughes would have fared in the rotation.

          Also, I’m not sure I believe Cash that he would not trade for a setup man and put Hughes back for a few starts – maybe they get a power arm thru waivers (tough) or maybe they try and get Melancon or others to step up.

          • http://twitter.com/themanchine Bruno

            I’m sure “wasted in the ‘pen” wasn’t meant literally, just in relation to his development as a starter and taking his inning-toll into account.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              That.

              I should rephrase: When we moved him to the bullpen in June, we slowed his development and wasted our starting pitching surplus (which was drastically underprioritized). He was only truly “wasted” in the bullpen when CMW got injured again before the ASB, when Hughes should have been transitioned back to starter immediately.

              Putting Hughes in the bullpen helped our team in the short term (June and the beginning of July) and hurt our team in the long term (the end of July, August, September, October, and 2010).

              Not only are 5th starters >>>>> 8th inning guys, but 6th starters >>>>> 8th inning guys.

              • Mac

                I’ve got no real problem with any of that – and I agree, that if the Yanks really believe Hughes is going to be an above avg or better starter then you are stunting his development in the short term – for a guy 22 years old though I don’t think its a big deal.

                As for 5th starters better than 8th inning guys – and Hughes has been a bit more than that in his current role as he’s pitched more than one inning at times and he’s been lights our until very recently – that I’m not 100% on – i.e. if he was pitching at an avg of 5 2/3rd’s with a 5 era is that really more valuable than what he has done in the pen?

                I don’t think so, especially since Bruney and Marte got hurt and the other options weren’t good

          • Pasqua

            Hughes was pretty close to wasted on Sunday afternoon.

  • YankeeGrunt

    Is Kroenke a possibility? It’s tough to progress from a spot start at AAA to one in the Bronx but do we have anyone else from whom we would expect something better than 6 IP/5 ER?

  • BPT

    Why not Josh Towers? Has experience at being mediocre in the AL East and a chance (albeit small) at being Aaron Small. Most importantly, costs us nothing and may encourage reclamation projects to come to us in the future.

    • Pasqua

      I understand the thought, but “Buyer beware.” There’s a reason why these guys are perpetually in the minors. Recognizing the name makes it enticing, but he would probably end up being a wash when compared with Mitre.

    • I Remember Celerino Sanchez

      The 2005 Towers would be interesting (3.71 ERA, 120 ERA+, 1.275 WHIP). The 2006 Towers (8.42, 54, 1.774) and 2007 Towers (5.38, 83, 1.411) not so much.

      I would give him a chance over Igawa, though, if those were the two craptastic options.

  • Mark B.

    Trevor Hoffmann would be an excellent pick-up and allow Hughes to move to the 7th (if Ace is unavailable due to moving to the rotation to replace Mitre) or back to the rotation (highly unlikely). It would also pare the two greatest relievers of all time in the same pen.

    Unless the Brewers make a surge in the NL Central in the next few weeks, I get the feeling GM Doug Melvin will dangle Hoffmann out there before the waiver deal closes on 9/1. If he can nab a young starting pitcher, he might just do the deal as Milwaukee’s rotation is in shambles.

    The only question is whether his contract ($7.5 million – though only for 2009) or the cost to obtain him would be too much for the Yankees…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Unless the Brewers make a surge in the NL Central in the next few weeks, I get the feeling GM Doug Melvin will dangle Hoffmann out there before the waiver deal closes on 9/1.

      I have multiple voodoo dolls all trying to get the Astros to go in the tank. I want Jose Valverde.

      • Mark B.

        Roy Oswalt wants you to take the pins out of his voodoo doll’s back!

  • Mac

    I checked out Cordero’s contract yesterday (two more years at 12 mil per plus buyout).

    I wonder if the Reds would want to move him and if he’d be good enough in NY setting up Mo – not saying he’d waive the NTC or want to.

    I don’t remember the particulars around his signing – i.e. if he wanted to avoid NY or certain cities.

    Just wondering…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Cordero, ’07-09: 2.81 ERA (159+), 10.2 K/9, 3.8 BB/9, 0.6 HR/9, 1.222 WHIP, 101 saves… yeah, I’d take that.

      I just think the 25M still owed over the next two years is too much to take on. He’s good, but not that good and I don’t want to tie up that much money in him. We’d have to demand that the Reds pay part of his contract, and that would up the prospect cost probably to a prohibitive level.

      Good idea, but just too expensive ultimately. Oh, and he’s already 34.

      • Mac

        Yep, while I don’t agree with the Mets radio heads (Neer, Roberts, etc) that the Yanks are at their absolute limit – I do think Cordero is pricy – which is why he might clear waivers easily.

        Cordero would just be a stop gap for this year and possibly next – I’d take a veteran guy in his 30′s for a couple of reasons.

        As for the Reds being buyers at the deadline – I just wonder if they wouldn’t like to free up that kind of $ and I don’t know if they have a kid in their system who could fill that role for alot less $ – plus the Yanks could actually deal them a Roberson\Melancon to do just that.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Cordero would just be a stop gap for this year and possibly next – I’d take a veteran guy in his 30’s for a couple of reasons.

          Cordero is on the books not just for 12M for ’10, but another 12M for ’11 + a 1M buyout for ’12.

          He’s not a 2 month + 1 year stopgap, he’s a 2 month + TWO year stopgap.

          That’s a big gap and an expensive stop.

    • A.D.

      I agree, the issue is the Reds actually bought at the trade deadline, so given they we’re willing to add Rolen, I doubt they look to sell Cordero.

      On top of that Reds probably think they can contend next year

  • steve s

    Mussina could be ready by Sept. 1. Yanks should have paid him some contingency $$$ to keep himself in shape for such a possibility. Yanks should also try and sign Sheets now to a Lieber type deal while no one is paying attention to him (not for this year but for down the road).

    • pollo

      I think our best option is signing Moose. Get him stretched out, and get him a $5 mil deal.

      Get to it, Cash.

    • Russell NY

      Could you imagine? I can’t. Neither can moose lol.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    We’ve mentioned FA Paul Byrd a few times, but here’s another name that costs nothing but a small amount of money: Odalis Perez. He’s not hurt, he’s a lefty, only 32… might be worth a shot.

    August is the time to start throwing flyers at these guys…

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....es-odalis/

    Oh, and Mark Mulder. He’s pitching workouts. More spaghetti.

  • Mike

    I wouldn’t mind Garland as the number 5 . he can’t be any worse than Mitre..

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      No, he could be.

      • Bill

        Based on what? In 4 starts Mitre has failed to go 6 innings in all 4 games. In 22 starts Garland has failed to go 6 innings just 3 times. Garland also has 16 quality starts this year. This guy is a perfect bottom of the rotation starter for a team that scores runs because he’ll keep you in nearly every game and won’t burn out your bullpen. He won’t win the game for you, but he’s not going to lose it for you very often either.

    • Doug

      you sure?

  • thebusiness

    You know something has gone terribly awry when Paul Byrd and Bronson Arroyo are considered attractive options.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      thebusiness: 1
      Strawman: 0

  • POCKO

    Ponson was just released! We need our yearly dose!

  • A.D.

    Harang would be my favored option of this bunch, and really no favor there given his contract, and that I don’t believe the Reds will trade him at this point.

  • jsbrendog

    what about josh towers?

  • E-ROC

    I like Justin Duchscherer and Aaron Harang. Though Harang isn’t living up to his contract, the Yanks could ask for the Reds to pick some of that money. The Reds should be sellers, even though they traded for Scott Rolen. Duchscherer will probably be blocked by a ballclub.

    • Bo

      Why Duch? The guy is hurt and hasnt pitched all yr!!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Because he’s not hurt anymore and he’s about to be ready to pitch this year.

        You’ve asked this question before, and I’ve answered it. You think it’s a rhetorical question but it’s not.

  • nick blasioli

    the yankees would not be in this fix,,if,they got off of their behinds and signed a number five,.,.,.

    • whozat

      They did. His name was Andy Pettitte.

      CC
      AJ
      Wang
      Joba
      Pettitte
      Hughes
      Aceves
      Kennedy
      Kontos

      That was the depth chart to start the season. You’re telling me THAT doesn’t look good enough?

  • Bo

    Real good thing they didn’t package some prospects to get Washburn or anything.

    Let’s just say we are close to seeing the Kei Man and his sunglasses again which is terrible.

  • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

    Get Hughes into the rotation, full stop. Pick up a good, cheap, experienced reliever.

    Cincy is out of it. Why wouldn’t they consider an offer for Arthur Rhodes or David Weathers? Both old, but pros and pitching well. Would they take Jose Molina? He is better than their backups and Ramon Hernandez is hurt. Then bring up Cervelli.

    Liking Russ Springer. One bad month this year, but otherwise doing what he always has done. Could come cheap. Who would Beane want do you suppose?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Get Hughes into the rotation, full stop. Pick up a good, cheap, experienced reliever.

      Cincy is out of it. Why wouldn’t they consider an offer for Arthur Rhodes or David Weathers? Both old, but pros and pitching well.

      Agreed on all of that.

      Would they take Jose Molina?

      No. That does nothing for them. They’d want back a minor league non-prospect that they can hope may suddenly blossom into something decent. Molina is just expiring salary, which is what they’re trying to dump in Rhodes/Weathers. A Rhodes-Molina deal is a lateral move for them.

      • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

        Assuming we’d eat the salary, of course. But I like your answer better.

      • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

        And BTW is there any contending National League team in need of a solid defensive catcher for the stretch run that has something to give us, maybe a spare PT outfielder until Gardner is fixed, or a utility player that is an upgrade of Cody?

        Can trading Molina and eating/taking on salary at all improve this club?

  • Stryker

    this phil-hughes-to-the-rotation notion has got to stop around here. it’s been shot down MULTIPLE times by girardi as saying that sticking him back in there is something they will NOT do this year.

    yes, keeping him there is/was EXTREMELY short-sighted and has wrecked his development for the foreseeable future. but we’re going to have to live with that, i guess. nothing we, as people who comment/write on blogs, can do or say that will change the team’s plans.

    that being said – this waiver situation is certainly tricky. i had hoped for a deal that would bring over j-dukes to be announced at the trade deadline. since that didn’t happen i’m not sure that the yankees will do anything to acquire a 5th starter or bullpen help. it’s funny – this 5th starter problem seems to be terrorizing the fans of this team when the majority of teams in major league baseball are running 4 or 5 sergio mitres out there every day.

    • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

      It’s actually a 4-5th starter problem once Joba is taken out. Don’t care what Girardi is saying now. This is a big problem in a close race — don’t count out TB making a run, esp with Kazmir dealing now.

      We need a good starter to keep pace — and we have one.

      Girardi also thinks that bunting is a good strategy, and on a team with this amount of stick in the lineup.

      Ferchrisakes, Hughes has only thrown 63 innings. As they wind down Joba — heck, have them switch roles — they could really use a good 4 man, maybe a 3 man if say Pettitte does just what he did last year, which I can easily see.

      If this is the official blog of the NY Yankees, and the insiders read it, maybe this does have an effect. If not, I’d at least want to be on record.

      Ducherer would be great IF he comes back healthy in time. Seeing as there wasn’t a deal, I’d conclude that’s not likely to happen.

  • terri girl

    No National league pitchers PLEASE!?!?!

  • mryankee

    I think about 1030pm tonight cashman will know what a mistake he made. I hate to say that but its true-this thing would be over

  • emac2

    I don’t know how we can avoid switching Joba and Hughes at some point this year.

    Unless there is a “Joba in the 7th” crowd I haven’t heard from.

    Before any of the possible waiver guys i would rotate through the AAA and AA guys. Give them each a start with a carefully selected matchup and anyone wh does well gets a second shot.

    If you are going to coin flip those games at least reward some of the kids with their big chance. Commiting to proven losers just doesn’t seem to have any value whatsoever.

    • POCKO

      Im going to start the Joba to the 7th crowd!

      The only way to stop our 5th starter problem is to have no starters. Only relievers. CC, AJ, Joba, Hughes, Mo for 5-9, and Pettite, Coke, Aceves, Bruney, 1-4

    • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

      Amen

    • http://www.wiredtowns.com Short Porch

      Exactimundo

  • mryankee

    The Yankees should not have this problem, scrounging for a fifth starter and essentialy telling the public that fifth starters games are not importanat. Tonight for example they are swicthing the rotation with Pettite facing halladaywhen Joba is on regular rest he could tonight against halladay and sunday against lester-now we have pettite going against halladay and lester-anyone as confident?

  • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

    Bannister…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Expensive…

  • Michael D

    “When the Jays place Roy Halladay on waivers — and they certainly will — the Sox will almost certainly put in a claim. Even then, a team like Texas or Detroit might place their claim first, effectively cutting out the Sox. The pickings could be slim by the time it gets to the Yanks and Sox.” Halladay’s contract is big;so how can you be so sure Texas, Detroit, or Boston will pick up his contract. Further, ewat about foreign pitchers ? What ever happened to the Cuban Lefty who recently fled Cuba? What about Japanese , Venezulian SP?

  • Mr. Max

    sign Yadel Marti?

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  • brad

    the yankees suck