Comments on: Bullpen stellar as bats down ChiSox 8-3

By: Chris H.

Chris H. — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:50:54 +0000

You don’t have to throw heat to be an ace but Joba does, that is how his whole game is set up… He isn’t throwing great location and back door pitches knicking the edges over and over he throws a 96 or 97 MPH fastball and then throws a slider that you have no choice but to wing over because your looking for 96 If he is throwing 91 and he throws a slider you have more time to sit back read the pitch and not swing, and then you end up working a 3-2 count where he has no choice but tot throw a 92 MPG fastball and it gets hit… Joba is a pure power pitcher and even throwing all of his pitches well he needs his power fastball to be effective.

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Joba’s fastball does not rule « iYankees — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:26:46 +0000

[...] Joba’s fastball does not rule August 31, 2009, 12:26 pm Here’s Ben over at RAB on Joba’s latest start: For Joba, the problem seemed to be one of velocity. While he was [...]

By: PinstripesForeverDouglas

PinstripesForeverDouglas — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:43:47 +0000

+62!

By: Steve H

Steve H — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:23:59 +0000

Like I stated, it’s been less than 1 year, and you’re willing to declare the Ryan method as great. So when Prior was 18-6 were you declaring the Dusty Baker method as great?

By: Joebrah

Joebrah — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:21:39 +0000

Well, he takes over as Prez, sets his standard and they go from being the worst pitching team in MLB in 08, to the 7th best in 09 thus far.

By: DaveinMD

DaveinMD — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:10:50 +0000

I wonder if Joba needs to get in better shape physically. Maybe he should go to the trainer that Phil Hughes uses.

By: Steve H

Steve H — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:55:11 +0000

Rosters are expanding in two days. And with regards to Nolan Ryan’s approach, it hasn’t even been a full season. Remember when Mark Prior looked like a HOF. Yeah, that was the Nolan Ryan approach.

By: Joebrah

Joebrah — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:36:49 +0000

There seems to be a lot wrong with this Joba approach. Still nobody knows whether this actually helps or not, long term. If you ask Nolan Ryan, he says it hurts pitchers. And the things he’s done in Texas with that pitching staff are absolutely note-worthy.

So, every 5 games, the bullpen is going to have to do considerable work? Am I wrong in assuming this? The organization is a little bit of a bitch to begin with when it comes to pitchers and their work load, in my opinion. You’re going to empty the tank of the bullpen every 5 starts? Then what, for the rest of the week? Just going to have to hope CC, AJ, Andy and Mitre eat up 7 innings a piece?

And what does that say to those pitchers? I originally thought about the hybriders, like Mitre and Ace. How do these specialized rules to further promote Joba’s career not make these pitchers feel less than? But really, the entire pitching staff is going to have to step up their games in order for these rules to not affect the Yankees ability to win baseball games.

I’m really disgusted by this whole thing. I think it’s a terrible idea that will come back to bite them in the ass. And it couldn’t come at a worse time. Why do you wanna drain the bullpen’s tank right before the end of the season/(hopefully) post-season?

A.) I really hope Texas beats the Red Sox in the wild-card race.

B.) If the Yankees do, in fact, kick their own ass with this set-up, I can only dream that Texas delivers the blow in the playoffs, and then goes on to win it all, just to show that Nolan Ryan’s approach to young pitchers is far superior to the Yankees babying.

By: pete

pete — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:17:44 +0000

agreed. joba actually seems to have more control when he’s throwing hard, too, or at least he did in ’07

By: Tom Zig

Tom Zig — Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:38:08 +0000

I tried watching the highlight replays (Not very helpful). I didn’t get to see very many close ups. But the umpire did approach him after he took the liner off his arm and he didn’t seem to notice.