Comments on: Going After The King http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/ A New York Yankees Blog Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:18:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TLVP http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510883 TLVP Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:10:19 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510883 CC should pitch 1st and second,AJ 3rd and 4th Felix 5th and 6th Joba 7th Hughes 8th and Mo 9th... This would be your plan every second day on the other days throw out Mitre and Igawa for complete games... and rest A-Rod... CC should pitch 1st and second,AJ 3rd and 4th Felix 5th and 6th Joba 7th Hughes 8th and Mo 9th…

This would be your plan every second day on the other days throw out Mitre and Igawa for complete games… and rest A-Rod…

]]> By: RustyJohn http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510876 RustyJohn Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:40:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510876 As good as Felix is, what is crazy is the Mariners could have had Felix and Lincecum in the rotation right now but for Bill Bavasi being the worst GM in baseball and selecting Morrow in the draft. Felix is in another realm this year- he is an Ace- just totally took his game up to another notch, going deep in games and being a friggin stud of a stopper. About the only way the M's are going to keep him is by having Carlos Silva and Johjima get hit by a bus so they can save about 20 million in 2010 and 2011. As good as Felix is, what is crazy is the Mariners could have had Felix and Lincecum in the rotation right now but for Bill Bavasi being the worst GM in baseball and selecting Morrow in the draft.

Felix is in another realm this year- he is an Ace- just totally took his game up to another notch, going deep in games and being a friggin stud of a stopper. About the only way the M’s are going to keep him is by having Carlos Silva and Johjima get hit by a bus so they can save about 20 million in 2010 and 2011.

]]> By: Phil McCracken http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510770 Phil McCracken Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:05:42 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510770 I suggested that Cashman look into Felix before the deadline and everyone laughed at me. At least Cashman made the call. I give him credit for trying. I suggested that Cashman look into Felix before the deadline and everyone laughed at me.

At least Cashman made the call. I give him credit for trying.

]]> By: RollingWave http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510681 RollingWave Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:26:56 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510681 Mike, Victor Wang's reasearch basically factored in bust rate already. so the # on Montero / Jackson / Vizcaino etc are all already bust rate factored. Joba and Hughes aren't, but then again, neither is Felix's I doubt Seattle will trade him now. they have a fairly reasonable chance to contend next year if they just open their wallet a little more (something they are actually capable of. just havn't been very willing lately) so the value probably isn't quiet that high. In the end , my personal feeling is that I hate to do trade with the assumption of the "ZOMG extention!" logic factored in, because it just doesn't work like that. when you extend a guy you will pay him at what he's worth. which you know. makes him just another FA. Hell, let's look back to Johan Santana, do you realize that if he finish at his current rate this year... he WON'T be worth his salary ? in year 2 of a 6-7 year deal?? or that Hughes + Cabrera is already pretty close to the WAR of Johan this year ? it's a good thing that the Mets gave up garbage for him (then again, Guerra is ripping up AA ) or this might turn out epically bad. Mike, Victor Wang’s reasearch basically factored in bust rate already. so the # on Montero / Jackson / Vizcaino etc are all already bust rate factored. Joba and Hughes aren’t, but then again, neither is Felix’s

I doubt Seattle will trade him now. they have a fairly reasonable chance to contend next year if they just open their wallet a little more (something they are actually capable of. just havn’t been very willing lately) so the value probably isn’t quiet that high.

In the end , my personal feeling is that I hate to do trade with the assumption of the “ZOMG extention!” logic factored in, because it just doesn’t work like that. when you extend a guy you will pay him at what he’s worth. which you know. makes him just another FA.

Hell, let’s look back to Johan Santana, do you realize that if he finish at his current rate this year… he WON’T be worth his salary ? in year 2 of a 6-7 year deal?? or that Hughes + Cabrera is already pretty close to the WAR of Johan this year ? it’s a good thing that the Mets gave up garbage for him (then again, Guerra is ripping up AA ) or this might turn out epically bad.

]]> By: Glen L http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510470 Glen L Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:40:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510470 Really one of the more nuanced and sophisticated analyses I've read ... kudos Really one of the more nuanced and sophisticated analyses I’ve read … kudos

]]> By: Joseph Pawlikowski http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510466 Joseph Pawlikowski Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:25:49 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510466 Reading comprehension would do you wonders. Reading comprehension would do you wonders.

]]> By: DreDog http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510464 DreDog Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:16:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510464 Peter Gammons agrees. I don't. Dominating Low-A is impressive at 18, but he's got a long way before he is the top minor league P prospect. Peter Gammons agrees. I don’t. Dominating Low-A is impressive at 18, but he’s got a long way before he is the top minor league P prospect.

]]> By: yanquis http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510461 yanquis Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:12:18 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510461 bar none one of the most idiotic trade posts i have ever read on an established blog. nix joba & montero & you've got something. otherwise that trade offer is just stupid. bar none one of the most idiotic trade posts i have ever read on an established blog. nix joba & montero & you’ve got something. otherwise that trade offer is just stupid.

]]> By: Yages http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510458 Yages Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:07:22 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510458 Looks like someone's got a case of the Mondays! Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays!

]]> By: DreDog http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/going-after-the-king-15382/#comment-510456 DreDog Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:03:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=15382#comment-510456 I would take Joba in an eating contest over King Felix. I would take Joba in an eating contest over King Felix.

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