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		<title>By: The Derek Jeter contract conundrum &#124; River Avenue Blues</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-571816</link>
		<dc:creator>The Derek Jeter contract conundrum &#124; River Avenue Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last few weeks, Joe and I have spent some time exploring Jeter&#8217;s contract status. While Jeter wasn&#8217;t saying much about his new deal, I speculated that the Yanks might break with tradition and sign Derek to an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last few weeks, Joe and I have spent some time exploring Jeter&#8217;s contract status. While Jeter wasn&#8217;t saying much about his new deal, I speculated that the Yanks might break with tradition and sign Derek to an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TLVP</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-527348</link>
		<dc:creator>TLVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No player has ever hit more than 2674 hits when playing as a SS - Luis Aparacio. Derek has 2670 hits as a SS, Omar Vizquel 2669.

Later this week or early next week Derek Jeter will break the record. 

In September he will break Gehrig&#039;s record for most hits as a Yankee (2721 vs 2680 right now)

Derek Jeter has been around forever - are we seriously talking about him getting 4 more years? Or are we talking about 3 additonal years beyond 2010? Even that is a lot. I think that they will end up agreeing this winter to an additional 3 years at 15m each. The Yankees will make a lot of that back on the attention to his march to 3000 hits in 2011 but after that there is no milestone that will really capture the imagination of the nation until he gets to 4000 hits which won&#039;t happen.

In 2011 he&#039;s probably worth $25m simply because of marketing and he probably still plays SS

In 2012 and 2013 he&#039;s probably not playing SS and marking will not focus on Jeter but on A-Rod&#039;s 3000 hit and his passing of Mays and Ruth on the all time HR list. He&#039;ll probably be worth no more than $10m/year so 3/45 for 2011-2013 make sense

The question is how long he wants to play. Does heo nly want 1 more year to get to 3000 hits or does he want to play forever? Its a bit worrying that he seems to be in denial that he&#039;s getting old/older - he never says anything interesting in interviews but the one thing that comes across is that he&#039;s trying to fend of the notion that he&#039;s a veteran/senior spokesperson etc. He might also look at A-Rod signed through 2017 and being only 1 year younger think that why not me though 2016.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No player has ever hit more than 2674 hits when playing as a SS &#8211; Luis Aparacio. Derek has 2670 hits as a SS, Omar Vizquel 2669.</p>
<p>Later this week or early next week Derek Jeter will break the record. </p>
<p>In September he will break Gehrig&#8217;s record for most hits as a Yankee (2721 vs 2680 right now)</p>
<p>Derek Jeter has been around forever &#8211; are we seriously talking about him getting 4 more years? Or are we talking about 3 additonal years beyond 2010? Even that is a lot. I think that they will end up agreeing this winter to an additional 3 years at 15m each. The Yankees will make a lot of that back on the attention to his march to 3000 hits in 2011 but after that there is no milestone that will really capture the imagination of the nation until he gets to 4000 hits which won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>In 2011 he&#8217;s probably worth $25m simply because of marketing and he probably still plays SS</p>
<p>In 2012 and 2013 he&#8217;s probably not playing SS and marking will not focus on Jeter but on A-Rod&#8217;s 3000 hit and his passing of Mays and Ruth on the all time HR list. He&#8217;ll probably be worth no more than $10m/year so 3/45 for 2011-2013 make sense</p>
<p>The question is how long he wants to play. Does heo nly want 1 more year to get to 3000 hits or does he want to play forever? Its a bit worrying that he seems to be in denial that he&#8217;s getting old/older &#8211; he never says anything interesting in interviews but the one thing that comes across is that he&#8217;s trying to fend of the notion that he&#8217;s a veteran/senior spokesperson etc. He might also look at A-Rod signed through 2017 and being only 1 year younger think that why not me though 2016.</p>
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		<title>By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526869</link>
		<dc:creator>The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;You say &#039;so end it&#039;. You didn’t when I said so. So why should I?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Sarcasm.  I thought it was a funny thing for you to say, so I adopted it in my responses to you.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I just didn’t get the make me comment. Why say it?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Because you told me to do something, and I didn&#039;t want to.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Disagree, fine.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I do.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;But stop mocking me and saying I’m taking both sides of an issue.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

How can I disagree with you if I can&#039;t say you&#039;re taking both sides of the issue?  That&#039;s, like, all I&#039;m really saying here.  So yeah, I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; disagree with you, I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; think you take both sides of issues.

And look what I &lt;a href=&quot;http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/game-113-getting-back-on-the-winning-path-15716/#comment-526527&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;came across while persuing the ol&#039; game thread&lt;/a&gt;...  You&#039;d call it coincidence, I&#039;d call it another instance of you hedging.  Agree to disagree, again!

So end it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;You say &#8216;so end it&#8217;. You didn’t when I said so. So why should I?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Sarcasm.  I thought it was a funny thing for you to say, so I adopted it in my responses to you.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I just didn’t get the make me comment. Why say it?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Because you told me to do something, and I didn&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Disagree, fine.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I do.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;But stop mocking me and saying I’m taking both sides of an issue.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How can I disagree with you if I can&#8217;t say you&#8217;re taking both sides of the issue?  That&#8217;s, like, all I&#8217;m really saying here.  So yeah, I <i>do</i> disagree with you, I <i>do</i> think you take both sides of issues.</p>
<p>And look what I <a href="http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/game-113-getting-back-on-the-winning-path-15716/#comment-526527" rel="nofollow">came across while persuing the ol&#8217; game thread</a>&#8230;  You&#8217;d call it coincidence, I&#8217;d call it another instance of you hedging.  Agree to disagree, again!</p>
<p>So end it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at all. Just wondering.</description>
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		<title>By: Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526512</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By sign him I mean Reyes. 

BTW, by starting a nonissue I mean making an issue out of something that isn&#039;t and you know it. At least talk to me like I&#039;m not a teenager. I&#039;m not, you know.
I&#039;ll let this go, but show me some respect. Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By sign him I mean Reyes. </p>
<p>BTW, by starting a nonissue I mean making an issue out of something that isn&#8217;t and you know it. At least talk to me like I&#8217;m not a teenager. I&#8217;m not, you know.<br />
I&#8217;ll let this go, but show me some respect. Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526486</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGH, wrong thread.

:(

On topic... give him the moon and all the stars. I don&#039;t care what he gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGH, wrong thread.</p>
<p> <img src='http://riveraveblues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On topic&#8230; give him the moon and all the stars. I don&#8217;t care what he gets.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526480</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;so end it&quot;. You didn&#039;t when I said so. So why should I?

It was warranted for you to attack me (that was an attack; it was a sarcastic insult) when I make a comment to another person, even when the person I comemnted to didn&#039;t care? You are the ONLY person who&#039;s taken issue with my comments here.

&quot;So you’ll lead the riot if Jeter wears another uniform, but you “know it’s bad baseball to resign Jeter,” but you wouldn’t be unhappy if they signed him anyway even though it’s bad baseball (your words), and you’d rather sign Jose Reyes. 

Why would anyone ever think that you like to hedge and play both sides of an issue?&quot;

Could that be any clearer? I said:

A. The riot thing was a very obvious joke.
B. I like Jeter, but I realize it&#039;s bad baseball to resign him. HOWEVER because he&#039;s Jeter I could never be too unhappy resigning him.
C. Yes, if Jeter has regressed a by 2012 (arbitrary year based on Reyes&#039;s contract) than I&#039;d rather sign him than Jeter. 

Is that clear enoguh for you?

I just didn&#039;t get the make me comment. Why say it? I asked you to end it after explaining. Then you went through my post so I&#039;ve explained again. What more do you want me to say? I&#039;d say I was wrong except I don&#039;t think so. Disagree, fine. But stop mocking me and saying I&#039;m taking both sides of an issue. I said I was joking. I don&#039;t get why that&#039;s so hard to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;so end it&#8221;. You didn&#8217;t when I said so. So why should I?</p>
<p>It was warranted for you to attack me (that was an attack; it was a sarcastic insult) when I make a comment to another person, even when the person I comemnted to didn&#8217;t care? You are the ONLY person who&#8217;s taken issue with my comments here.</p>
<p>&#8220;So you’ll lead the riot if Jeter wears another uniform, but you “know it’s bad baseball to resign Jeter,” but you wouldn’t be unhappy if they signed him anyway even though it’s bad baseball (your words), and you’d rather sign Jose Reyes. </p>
<p>Why would anyone ever think that you like to hedge and play both sides of an issue?&#8221;</p>
<p>Could that be any clearer? I said:</p>
<p>A. The riot thing was a very obvious joke.<br />
B. I like Jeter, but I realize it&#8217;s bad baseball to resign him. HOWEVER because he&#8217;s Jeter I could never be too unhappy resigning him.<br />
C. Yes, if Jeter has regressed a by 2012 (arbitrary year based on Reyes&#8217;s contract) than I&#8217;d rather sign him than Jeter. </p>
<p>Is that clear enoguh for you?</p>
<p>I just didn&#8217;t get the make me comment. Why say it? I asked you to end it after explaining. Then you went through my post so I&#8217;ve explained again. What more do you want me to say? I&#8217;d say I was wrong except I don&#8217;t think so. Disagree, fine. But stop mocking me and saying I&#8217;m taking both sides of an issue. I said I was joking. I don&#8217;t get why that&#8217;s so hard to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526479</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Boston-Detroit fight footage is incredible. Youkilis is such a bitch.</description>
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		<title>By: thurdonpaul</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526258</link>
		<dc:creator>thurdonpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my guess is,    4 to 5 years, at, 16 to 18 million per year</description>
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		<title>By: beware of Michael Kay</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/jeter-mum-on-next-deal-15715/#comment-526210</link>
		<dc:creator>beware of Michael Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alex rodriguez signed through - what? 2017? Derek Jeter signed - with 3 year deal - through 2013. 

Jeter better get his 4,000th hit with the Yankees.

Move him to the outfield -- when he&#039;s 38 he&#039;ll know that it&#039;s not reasonable to be a shortstop anymore. He&#039;ll do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alex rodriguez signed through &#8211; what? 2017? Derek Jeter signed &#8211; with 3 year deal &#8211; through 2013. </p>
<p>Jeter better get his 4,000th hit with the Yankees.</p>
<p>Move him to the outfield &#8212; when he&#8217;s 38 he&#8217;ll know that it&#8217;s not reasonable to be a shortstop anymore. He&#8217;ll do it.</p>
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