Aug
14

Open Thread: Fun with the Yankees’ record

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At 72-43, the Yankees have the best record in baseball and a 99.1118% chance of making the playoffs. With a few more hours to go before first pitch in Seattle, let’s kill the time by having some fun with the Yanks’ win-loss record.

  • With 645 runs scored and 539 runs allowed, the team’s expected win-loss record is 68-47, so they’ve actually overachieved a bit this year. Lots of walk-off wins with small margins of victory will do that.
  • If the team maintains its .626 winning percentage the rest of the season, they’ll finish 101-61. The Red Sox would have to go 37-11 to win the division.
  • If the team plays .550 ball the rest of the year, they’ll finish 98-64. The Sox would have to go 33-15.
  • If the team goes 23-24 the rest of the year, they’ll finish with a 95-67 record. That would be their best record since 2006. Boston would need to go 30-18 to win the division. The Rays would need to go 34-14.
  • The Yanks are an amazing 34-11 since Brian Cashman‘s visit in Atlanta. If they were to maintain that pace the rest of the way, they’d finish 108-54. The Sawx would have to go 42-6, Tampa 48-0.
  • If Boston keeps winning at the same .570 clip they’re at now, the Yanks would need to go just 21-26 the rest of the year to win the division.
  • To win an even 100 games, they’ll need to go 28-19 the rest of the way. To match last year’s record, just a 17-30 record is required. To finish at exactly .500, they’d have to collapse and go 9-38 over the next seven-plus weeks.
  • Through 115 games in 1998, the Yankees were 86-29 and 17.5 games up in the division. This year’s club would need to go 42-5 the rest of the year to match the ’98 team’s record. They were good at baseball.

So, while you wait for the game to start, feel free to use this as an open thread. The Mets and taking on the Giants at home, and the Little League World Series is on ESPN. So basically you’ve got same brand of baseball on two different channels. Anything goes here, just be nice.

Categories : Open Thread

224 Comments»

  1. VO says:

    Anyone else watching the Jets?

  2. Jake K says:

    That ’98 team was insane. Feels like such a long time ago.

  3. Dela G says:

    Who you got tonight? Rangers or Red Sox?

    i got sox winning 5-2

    • Zack says:

      Millwood has pitched good twice against the sox this year, and Kinsler is back, although Cruz is on the DL. 3-2 Texas with Milwood handing it off to Perez and Francisco

  4. The Artist says:

    “If the team maintains its .626 winning percentage the rest of the season, they’ll finish 101-61.”

    We all heard Girardi needed to ‘make the playoffs’ to keep his job.

    Lets say he makes the playoffs, winning 101 games this year, and then gets swept in the ALDS by the Tigers. Is he in trouble?

    • pat says:

      Yes because IMO a sweep is on the players not the manager. Unless he starts Mitre three times or some other baloney, you can’t fault the manager for a 100 win team not showing up in the playoffs. People might disagree with me but I’m of the opinion that professional athletes should not need a manager to get them fired up to play in the post season.

      • pat says:

        Heh, I messed that up. NO he shouldn’t be in hot water in that scenario.

        • The Artist says:

          Yeah, I agree. A manager wins 100 games and then they have a 3 game losing streak at the wrong time and he’s to blame?

          That’s why I hate this playoff setup. Best record in each league should get some huge edge, like 4 of 5 at home in the ALDS and 5 of 7 for the ALCS. You should get something for winning the marathon, the deck should be stacked the team with the worst record in the playoffs, and it isn’t. It’s unfair to the team that busts its butt for 6 months to only get 1 extra home game.

          • Kiersten says:

            Ixnay the wildcard and give the best team a bye to the CS.

            (Note: this will never happen)

          • Giovanni Galasso says:

            I can see your point, particular with a short series. However having the best record in your League could be only marginal over the second best team. If the Red Sox edged out the Yankees with a 100-62 to 99-63 record you would want them to have 5 of 7 games at Fenway if we met in the second round? Busting your butt is one thing, but having a huge advantage over another team that busted their butt too is silly.

            I’m all for making the 1st round of the playoffs a 7 game series instead.

            • The Artist says:

              It’s not silly, a premium should be placed on winning your league. Once upon a time, all you had to do was win your league and you went straight to the WS. The way they do it now, its almost meaningless among the contenders. Best record is King, you have to kill the King to advance.

    • Jersey says:

      I wouldn’t expect so. The bridge jumpers might call for his head, but Cashman is smart enough to see the quality job Girardi’s been doing all in all…and also smart enough to understand the first round is kind of a crapshoot…right?

      • The Artist says:

        Now that Torre and his 7 mil annual salary are gone, yes. The playoffs are back to being a crap shoot.

        At 7 mil, 2 mil more than any other manager in Baseball, the Yanks had a right to expect a lot from Torre. Now with Girardi, its a little different.

    • OmgZombies! says:

      Depends on his management in games. If CC/Burneet sh*t the bed pitching then well, how can you blame Girardi.

      • Salty Buggah says:

        Though its unlikely to have a managerial decision be the cause of a loss for 3 games out of 5. Though I guess anything is likely in a short series. But even if that happens, its the players’ fault for not pitching well/hitting well to have a close enough game that can be lost by one decision.

  5. Salty Buggah says:

    What should I watch: Broncos-Niners preseason opener at 8 or Yanks-Mariners pennant race game at 8:10?

    I guess I could watch both but that won’t be that fun. I wanna see the new Broncos and what they have to offer. I wanna see Eddie Royal make Orton a somewhat better QB. Maybe I’ll watch just the starters.

    • Jersey says:

      Is this a trick question?

      • Salty Buggah says:

        Heh, no Im a Broncos fan so this might seem like a joke to you.

        • Jersey says:

          Oh, haha yeah that makes more sense. My preseason interest doesn’t start with los Gigantes on Monday. I’m psyched to see Barden and Nicks can do.

          • pat says:

            Word. Nicks is gonna be badass.

          • Jersey says:

            Ugh. Butchered that response.

            • pat says:

              The spam filter ate min because I was agreeing and said nicks is gonna be BAD_ASS. Dude was prettay prettay good at UNC. Barden is a monster. Too bad he’s slow as shit though.

              • Jersey says:

                I just read an interview with Tuck saying that everybody has been pretty impressed by Barden in particular in camp so far. It’ll be interesting to see who emerges between those two along with the veterans. Bunch of guys who could contribute.

                • pat says:

                  Word the G-men have a nice corps of young receivers. Moss, Smith, Nicks, Barden Manningham, throw in TEH BOSSMAN and that’s a pretty good group to throw to. No big star obviously but I’m thinking Moss is gonna have that breakout year we’ve been waiting for.

                  Or it could just all be blind optimism and all they have going for them is youth.

                • Salty Buggah says:

                  I kinda hoped the Giants would get B-Marsh somehow. I know he doesn’t want to be in Denver anymore and wont sign an extension probably and we are rebuilding anyway. Might as well have him go to my second favorite team.

                • pat says:

                  YES, I was hoping to swing a trade for Marshall as well. He might be a bit of a clown off the field but he’s a stone cold stud on it. Plus I was thinking McDaniels might be stupid enough to do it.

                • Zack says:

                  Come on, what is Tuck going to say- The kid is lost and has no chance of contributing? Every one looks good in preseason/training camp

    • Dela G says:

      kyle orton isnt that good in my opinion, but should be interesting to see if marshall can make him a better qb

      • Salty Buggah says:

        He sucks in my opinion too. He got booed during training camp because of all the mistakes he was making. So, yea he is not going to be welcome here if he sucks early (though Cutler is helping him by acting like a dick). Sadly, B-Marsh finished a trial today (found not guilty, thank Mo!) and is injured so he isnt playing today.

      • Jake H says:

        I know Kyle. He’s a good guy. I want him to succeed in Denver.

        • Salty Buggah says:

          I do too but I dont know how likely that is. Maybe McDaniels can get him to play well.

          • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

            I figure he better get him to play well because his job may be on line (as unfairly as that might be). Go Broncos and their great fans.

    • A.D. says:

      Well if you watch the actual starters you might be able to see them play all their going to play & still see first pitch.

  6. Salty Buggah says:

    Go Baltimore (up 6-2 against Angels in the 2nd) and BJays (up 2-0 against TB in the 1st)!!!

  7. OmgZombies! says:

    So your basically telling me I can pop the getting into the playoffs champagne?

  8. The Artist says:

    If any of you guys blog, do a piece on Johnny Damon.

    http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=6543

    I did this morning and we got 47 comments, which is about 10X more than we usually do on any topic. Seems to be a hot issue among Yankee fans.

  9. Salty Buggah says:

    A-rod out of the lineup with back spasms. Apparently, they were related to his elbow injury. Is that possible if anyone knows?

    • pat says:

      Maybe because his elbow hurt he’s been throwing the ball strangely in warmups or practice. Something like that could lead to putting strain on muscles that don’t normally get strained. I guess I’ll go with the ole overcompensating diagnosis again.

      • Salty Buggah says:

        I thought of something like that. I guess it doesn’t matter as long as he goes tomorrow.

        • pat says:

          Hell, I’d give him the whole series off to make sure he’s good and rested. Might as well take advantage of a 6.5 game lead. We shouldn’t need him to keep beating the shit out of Seattle.

    • JJ says:

      yes, I think it’s because he hit a nerve. Hence losing feeling in his hand when he first got hit, as well.

    • whozat says:

      He could have just slept in a weird position because his elbow hurt when he laid on his side or back. I wake up in the morning sore in the lower back sometimes, and I’m not even 30. All it really takes is arching your back funkily all night, and then if it won’t loosen up the next day…why risk it?

  10. Salty Buggah says:

    Adam Lind is pretty darn good. A solo shot puts Jays up 5-0 with Halladay going. Should be enough, right?

  11. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Hell yeah, Michael Young!! Rangers leading 2-0

  12. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Sanchez looks absolutely dirty for the Jets, but I’m a Giants fan so I have to wait until Monday for them to play.

    On that note, go Rangers!

  13. DreDog says:

    So far good night for the Yanks and they haven’t even threw the first pitch. Way to go Red Sox, Angels, and Rays!

  14. JJ says:

    How amazing would it be if the Rangers won the Wild Card and we won the AL East..

    • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

      Don’t be shocked if it happens JJ. Plus, can you imagine if the sacred idiots of New England missed the playoffs?

      cue: HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY

      • DreDog says:

        Can you imagine the Red Sox not making the playoffs with all that’s happened to them this year? I would love it.

        What’s happening with Papi, Lowell? How come Theo didn’t trade fro everything under the sun, etc….

  15. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Seriously, how underrated is Michael Young (aka the Derek Jeter of the

    south)? The ultimate teamate- how many times has he changed positions for

    the good of the team? And the guy is going to be in the top five of most

    hits this decade. I’m tellin ya guys here on the avenue of pinstripes &

    glory, The Rangers will be a tough out in the postseason.

    • Zack says:

      Considering he sucks away from Texas, wasnt a good SS, bitched about moving to 3B, I’d say he’s not that underrated.

      • The Artist says:

        Plus at 32, Michael Young aint so young anymore.

        Nice player, the type that would get tons of credit of he played in NY, but he doesn’t.

      • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

        Waitaminute, Zach. Can you provide me the stark numbers that show he sucks away from Arlington? Also, can you blame him for complaining about moving to 3rd base for an unknown rookie, Elvis Andrus? Not me. And I was just supporting a player I like & in some ways resemble Jeter in an environment, Texas, that can forget to celebrate their baseball players not named Rocket or Ryan.

        • pat says:

          .283/.328/.507 away.
          .351/.411/.539 home.

          He doesn’t “suck” away from Arlington but his stats are inflated by being redic at home.

        • Zack says:

          Sure, AVG .280/OBP .324/SLG .413/OPS .736
          Maybe sucks was harsh, but hes not the .324/.373/.485/.830 hitter he is at home. Plus hes been a 6 time All Star, dont get how hes ‘underrated’
          No I cant blame him for complaining about moving, but dont act like he’s such a good teammate that he did it for the team, he went kicking and screaming.

    • DreDog says:

      If you make the playoffs, you should be a tough out. I would still rather play the Rangers than the Angels or even the Tigers. Verlander, Jackson is nothing to sneeze at. No slight on CC or AJ.

      • Bugsy says:

        Tigers really don’t scare me. Their offense blows. Angels, on the other hand, I hope, will miss the playoffs (not likely). Their pitching isn’t that great right now, right?

        • DreDog says:

          I’d rather face the White Sox than the Tigers deppite the recent road trip to Chi-Town. I am saying that I rather face the Rangers than the Tigers. In response the original post.

          • JMK says:

            Totally. That rotation has the potential to crush any opponent, and if even a few hitters get hot, they legitimately could pull off a Rockies-like run.

      • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

        “I would rather play the Rangers than the angles or even the tigers”.

        DreDog, I must say that argument is one the Univers should stay

        away from at all costs after the postseasons of 06′ & 07′.

        Everyone declared easy & favorable postseason matchups against

        Detroit and Cleveland those years and we all know what happened.

        All I’m saying is the stategy of wanting to face a certain team is

        often a dangerous one to engage.

        • DreDog says:

          True, but then why are we rooting against the Rays and Red Sox?

          • DreDog says:

            I mean considering the Rays have little chance of overtaking the division.

          • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

            DreDog, I only root against the Saux making the playoffs because I hate them and would love to see them or the Rays sit out Octber baseball after we suffered through it. Plus, wouldn’t it be nice to see the team everyone says is the “best” franchise in baseball or even a current “dynasty”
            miss the playoffs for the 2nd time 4 years ;)

            • DreDog says:

              Why did you have to remind me? I was having a good day. LOL

              I think this team is much different than those teams. Wang started both game 1′s for those teams. I think CC and AJ turns our luck around against worse teams. That’s why I rather see the Rangers, IMO.

              • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

                sorry, about bringing ya down. I just worry so much after watching the unbelievable happen. Bugs attacking our stud pitchers, Kenny Rogers beating us (still don’t how that happened)

        • Bugsy says:

          You’re basically saying that in baseball doesn’t necessarily wins it all. Moreover, the playoffs are a total crap shoot. I kinda wish there were no playoffs, just world series consisting of two pennant winners. I think that’s prolly the fairest system, but what do I know.

    • pat says:

      Interesting, because I was just going to reply to JJ that it would be awesome if the Rangers got the WC because we own them.

    • A.D. says:

      Sutcliff is that you?

  16. Ivan says:

    So what are the expectations if your a Jet fan? Playoffs?

  17. Bugsy says:

    How sad is it that Kevin freaking Millwood is the Ranger’s ace.

    • pat says:

      Exactly the reason I’d love to face them in the playoffs.

    • JSquared says:

      By then it could be Holland. Kid is good.

      • Bugsy says:

        still a rookie. he’s just not reliable enough as of yet.

        • JSquared says:

          Yeah, just because he’s a rookie. but CG 3 Hits 8K’s against the Angels, a team we haven’t been great against…uhhh, he could be better than Millwood, and has been, which would possibly make him their ace.

          • Zack says:

            he also went 4.1 3er, and 4.2 IP 4er, against Oak and KC, 2 of the bottom 4 worst offensive teams int he AL, in 2 of his 3 starts before that CG.
            So like Bugsy says, rookie & unreliable

    • The Artist says:

      I’m keeping an eye on Millwood’s innings. If he breaks 180 IP his 12 mil option for 2010 automatically kicks in. He’s at 146 right now. Given the Ranger’s finances and the state of the FA market, I’ll bet they’re hoping he doesn’t make it.

      I suspect Andy will want to pitch past this year, but the Yanks won’t bring him back. He could land in Texas, or replace Randy Wolf on the Dodgers.

  18. pat says:

    These SNY commercials with the two middle eastern dudes are hilarious.

  19. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    You know we might be watching the second sweep of the Red Sox by the Rangers if the idiots don’t pull out a victory tonight. The next two nights they have their worst going and the Rangers love kicking their alternate unform butt.

    Seriously, what is up with the Sux uniforms selection? First the terrible Buckner 86 uniforms, then the attrocious red socks caps, and finally this spring training disaster?

  20. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    Sick DP turned by Texas.

  21. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Oh no, I think I just jinxed Johnson. Someone just hit a dinger

  22. Tom Zig says:

    To trade for Adam Dunn in the offseason, what do you think the Nationals would want?

    Keep in mind that he wasn’t offered arbitration last offseason and he is making $12M in 2010.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      I thought the Nationals had no plans of moving him, no?

    • DreDog says:

      Considering it’s the Nats, they would want a lot. The supposedly asked for a lot this year. Not much would change in the offseason.

    • Zack says:

      The arb and salary really have nothing to do with the Nationals, the Diamondbacks didnt have 10m+ to spend last season. So Nationals arent looking to shred salary, they’re trying to get people to come out and watch them. Plus Beimel, Young, Johnson, Kearns leaving frees up 19.5m.

      As for what they want, if they’re not shopping him then Cashman would have to give up something significant to make them bite.

  23. DreDog says:

    Can someone answer this for me?

    If Andy’s base salary is $5 mil plus incentives, what’s his arb # if he get’s offered arb? I would assume it would be his entire compensation including incentives. Is there a chance it could be just his base salary though?

    • whozat says:

      when you go to arbitration, the team presents a number and the player presents a number. The arbiter picks one. If Andy earns $10MM this season by hitting his incentives, and the Yanks offer 7MM and Andy asks for 11MM, he’ll get the 11MM.

      We say players get a 20% raise in arbitration because, on average, after going to arbitration that’s how much more they get. But it’s not like the arbiter creates a number based on last year’s money. Each side presents a figure and the arbiter picks. If Andy does stuff this season for which he is paid 10MM, it’d be hard for the Yanks to argue they should pay him less next year, what with inflation and all. They could try, but the arbiter will likely side with the player’s number, if it’s reasonable at all.

      • DreDog says:

        I thought you couldn’t offer a major leaguer with more than 6 years of experience less than what he made last year?

        You can offer an arb eligible player that doesn’t have the right to refuse 80% of what he made last year or 70% 2 years before. But those rules don’t apply to arb eligible FA’s.

        Right?

  24. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Also, I hate to sound like a fashion guru but do you guys see what the boys from Queens are wearing? OLd New York Giant uniforms?!?! I swear the Wilpons hate the Mets heritage so much…. first he rebuilds Ebbets Field,
    then he forgets to place any history in their park and now wearing old Giant uniforms? Jeez, can they ever stop embarassing themselves?

    • Bugsy says:

      I really dont care for mets, their history, and their ownership (besides providing some hearty laughter). I kinda like those unis.

      • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

        yeah, I like the uni’s too but they don’t deserve to wear them.

        When will Mets fans learn, they have no right to vulture the Dodger and Giants history!!

    • Bob Stone says:

      Great comment!!!! Those uniforms are pathetic and absolutely symptomatic of everything that’s wrong with the Mets.

  25. Zack says:

    Varitek is bad at baseball

  26. The Artist says:

    138 comments and not a single word on Michael Vick.

    I love you guys.

  27. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    And hey how about Millwood? Strike out Varitek with two on and the
    Rangers still lead 2-0!!

    And the rays are on the board, Jays up 5-1

  28. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So anyone try out Madden 10? I sucked balls today at my friend’s house. But Brandon Jacobs is a MONSTER. Well that was obviously in real life but in the game he’s ridiculous!

  29. whozat says:

    Wow, Pie has a double and an HR today? That’s gotta be his best game ever.

  30. Jersey says:

    Lester’s at 77 pitches already in the bottom of the 4th.

  31. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Is it just me or is MLB network trying to rile up a race in the NL East? It seems the Braves are still not really close enough to warrent this much attention as serious threats in that division.

  32. Salty Buggah says:

    WTF is up the media trying to create controversy when we’re doing well. Whats up with Hudson and Minka not liking each other? The Post knows about a “visible coldness,” which seems like BS to me. Just another NY Post article to create shit.

  33. PinstripesForeverDougie says:

    Tigers win on a walk-off HR. Hooray for Inge, i like that guy.

  34. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Both BPs will be working hard tonight in this Texas-Boston Series

  35. Dela G says:

    Bobby Parnell was brilliant tonight. I saw the last 3 innings of his start against the giants, and he was lights out

    good to see him to that

  36. SouthernYankeeFan says:

    Washburn pitched a gem for Detroit tonight.

  37. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    I really hope we get sign some draft picks tomorrow. A lot of guys have signed for other teams recently, especially the Sox, I want to see some of our guys sign.

  38. Bugsy says:

    Boy, I’m sure glad that Hanley Ramirez isn’t in the AL East.

    • PinstripesForeverDougie says:

      Yeah, I don’t think the Universe was very happy that he wasn’t in

      the AL East in 2007. Ya know that Beckett, Lowell and what happened in October.

  39. BklynJT says:

    So, is anyone concerned that the Yankees have yet to sign their top 2 picks? I mean, all these other teams are coming out with their above slot signings, what the hell is taking the Yankees so long.

    And no, I do not have faith that they will sign them.

  40. DreDog says:

    Holy Crap! Did Felix Pie just hit for the cycle?

  41. claybeez says:

    Yep. Can of whoop-ass hit the O’s tonight. I’ve been loving it.

  42. VO says:

    I know this will sound stupid to a lot of you who have watched football for years, but I’m some what new to the game. Should I be mad about a pre-season loss or is it basically the same as a loss in spring training.

    • pat says:

      Nah, the game is played mostly by scrubs. be happy Sanchez and Clowney looked good and I saw Ghoulston in the Rams backfield alot. That’s a good sign.

  43. steve from Rockland says:

    As a baseball fan for 50 years and someone with 30 credits above a Masters in math, I hope everyone realizes those stts like “they have a ___% chance to make the playoffs” and “expected won-loss record” are NONSENSE, They make no sense baseball-wise and are pretty much mathematically not valid.

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