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	<title>Comments on: Pondering Penny, again</title>
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		<title>By: louis</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-557821</link>
		<dc:creator>louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess you guys didnt see mitre&#039;s gem he pitched today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess you guys didnt see mitre&#8217;s gem he pitched today</p>
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		<title>By: Whitey14</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555691</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitey14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I&#039;ll take Martinez over Posada every day of the week because offense is more important than defense and the offensive gap is also wider than the defensive gap in my opinion.  Varitek can call the games from the dugout for all I care.

Ortiz/Matsui, Matsui has an edge, this season, so far....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I&#8217;ll take Martinez over Posada every day of the week because offense is more important than defense and the offensive gap is also wider than the defensive gap in my opinion.  Varitek can call the games from the dugout for all I care.</p>
<p>Ortiz/Matsui, Matsui has an edge, this season, so far&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitey14</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555688</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitey14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I thought it was clear I was referring to defense.  

And I think I&#039;ve been here long enough to not qualify as a Troll, plus I live in a house, not under a bridge so that has to help me ;-)

If I was speaking on an all-around level, offense and defense included I would have said;

Bay/Damon = push, although both have a short porch to aim for.
Ellsbury/Cabrera = Ellsbury and to me it&#039;s not even close
Drew/Swisher = push, both great at getting on base, but both streaky as hell, and defensively neither will make you forget Dwight Evans any time soon
Lowell/ARod = ARod, but not by as much this season
Gonzalez/Jeter = Jeter by a mile
Pedroia/Cano = edge to Cano 
Youkilis/Teixeira = slight edge to Teixeira</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I thought it was clear I was referring to defense.  </p>
<p>And I think I&#8217;ve been here long enough to not qualify as a Troll, plus I live in a house, not under a bridge so that has to help me <img src='http://riveraveblues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If I was speaking on an all-around level, offense and defense included I would have said;</p>
<p>Bay/Damon = push, although both have a short porch to aim for.<br />
Ellsbury/Cabrera = Ellsbury and to me it&#8217;s not even close<br />
Drew/Swisher = push, both great at getting on base, but both streaky as hell, and defensively neither will make you forget Dwight Evans any time soon<br />
Lowell/ARod = ARod, but not by as much this season<br />
Gonzalez/Jeter = Jeter by a mile<br />
Pedroia/Cano = edge to Cano<br />
Youkilis/Teixeira = slight edge to Teixeira</p>
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		<title>By: Tank Foster</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555665</link>
		<dc:creator>Tank Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh....yeah, innings is a surrogate for efficiency, when pitchers are on pitch limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;.yeah, innings is a surrogate for efficiency, when pitchers are on pitch limits.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555644</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...are you a troll or ARE YOU HIGH??!!


slight edge to tex over yook?

you equate or ignore posada&#039;s bat vs tek?

you completely ignored Godzilla vs Big Slopi?


i&#039;m gonna feel like such an idiot when you reveal this was a joke, but its like an eye high first pitch fastball to bad robbie--i cant stop myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;are you a troll or ARE YOU HIGH??!!</p>
<p>slight edge to tex over yook?</p>
<p>you equate or ignore posada&#8217;s bat vs tek?</p>
<p>you completely ignored Godzilla vs Big Slopi?</p>
<p>i&#8217;m gonna feel like such an idiot when you reveal this was a joke, but its like an eye high first pitch fastball to bad robbie&#8211;i cant stop myself.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555635</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...so didnt you just measure it in innings?

:)


...and ruthless efficiency.

the THREE main weapons of the Span...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;so didnt you just measure it in innings?</p>
<p> <img src='http://riveraveblues.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;and ruthless efficiency.</p>
<p>the THREE main weapons of the Span&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Whitey14</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555634</link>
		<dc:creator>Whitey14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my opinion, 

Bay/Damon = push
Ellsbury/Cabrera = edge to Cabrera because of his arm.
Drew/Swisher = slight edge to Drew, but both make me laugh at times.
Lowell/Arod = push, traditionally I would have taken Mike Lowell over Arod, but they both have the hip thing going on.
Gonzalez/Jeter = Jeter, this year 
Pedrioa/Cano = slight edge to Pedroia (who can catch pop-ups)
Teixeira/Youkilis = slight edge to Teixeira
Varitek/Martinez/Posada = Varitek calls a great game, can&#039;t throw, Martinez doesn&#039;t have any marketable defensive skills I can think of, Posada has never impressed me defensively, but does seem to have a bit better arm than the Sox Cachers = push, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a strength for either team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my opinion, </p>
<p>Bay/Damon = push<br />
Ellsbury/Cabrera = edge to Cabrera because of his arm.<br />
Drew/Swisher = slight edge to Drew, but both make me laugh at times.<br />
Lowell/Arod = push, traditionally I would have taken Mike Lowell over Arod, but they both have the hip thing going on.<br />
Gonzalez/Jeter = Jeter, this year<br />
Pedrioa/Cano = slight edge to Pedroia (who can catch pop-ups)<br />
Teixeira/Youkilis = slight edge to Teixeira<br />
Varitek/Martinez/Posada = Varitek calls a great game, can&#8217;t throw, Martinez doesn&#8217;t have any marketable defensive skills I can think of, Posada has never impressed me defensively, but does seem to have a bit better arm than the Sox Cachers = push, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a strength for either team.</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555599</link>
		<dc:creator>King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>holy crap. even if you made up that number, it sounds believable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crap. even if you made up that number, it sounds believable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tank Foster</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555588</link>
		<dc:creator>Tank Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good&quot; for a fifth starter is not measured in ERA, wins, or anything other than EFFICIENCY. 

I don&#039;t care if his ERA is 7, if he&#039;s efficient enough to last 6 innings before reaching his pitch limit, he&#039;s a great 5th starter. 

The idea is, can you get enough innings from a 5th starter so as to save the bullpen.  

No doubt in my mind Penny is an upgrade over Mitre and Gaudin in this regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good&#8221; for a fifth starter is not measured in ERA, wins, or anything other than EFFICIENCY. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if his ERA is 7, if he&#8217;s efficient enough to last 6 innings before reaching his pitch limit, he&#8217;s a great 5th starter. </p>
<p>The idea is, can you get enough innings from a 5th starter so as to save the bullpen.  </p>
<p>No doubt in my mind Penny is an upgrade over Mitre and Gaudin in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike HC</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/pondering-penny-again-16451/#comment-555565</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t think he would be effective in the pen?  Why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t think he would be effective in the pen?  Why not?</p>
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