Aug
26

So far, so good for Marte

By Joseph Pawlikowski

With so much frustration surrounding last night’s game, it’s easy to let something positive fall through the cracks. There was something of that nature last night for the Yanks, and his name is Damaso Marte. After retiring the only two batters he faced Friday, he came in to record the last out of the seventh and then retired the Rangers in the eighth. He did this with aplomb, striking out two batters in those 1.1 innings while issuing just one walk — a strategic one of the four-pitch variety, putting the dangerous Michael Young on in favor of Josh Hamilton, whom Marte fooled with a breaking ball for strike three.

The Red Sox just picked up Billy Wagner to help strengthen their bullpen. The Yanks have added Marte. On their best days, Marte isn’t at Wagner’s level, but their recent injuries might level the playing field a bit. Wagner, after all, is just 11 months out from Tommy John surgery and was concerned about his potential workload in Boston. Marte is also coming off injury, though of a less defined nature. He’s battled shoulder inflammation most of the year, but by all accounts the ailment wasn’t serious enough to consider surgery.

It’s tough to pin too many hopes on Marte. We’ve only see him throw two innings, but those two innings were pretty impressive. His fastball has been working, hitting 93 much of the time, though last night he did drop down to about 91 for a few pitches (on Friday he threw 93 most of the time) and his breaking stuff seems just fine. By all early appearances, Marte might be the guy the Yanks hoped he was when they signed him to a three-year, $12 million contract this off-season.

Posted on Wednesday, August 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am in Death by Bullpen.

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Marte’s return could easily represent the best non-trade “pick-up” of a lefty reliever in August. I like what I’ve seen so far.

radnom says:

Compared to all those other non-trade “pick-ups” of left relievers this month?

I meant that his return would be as good as acquiring a top lefty reliever via trade. I’m not making a very deep or non-obvious point really.

I’m not making a very deep or non-obvious point really.

http://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/today.asp

Tom Zig says:

What do you even search for to find something so random as that?

Anatomy of a TSJC link:

1) Ben says “I’m not making a very deep… point, really.”
2) Tommie’s brain immediately thinks of “Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey
3) http://tinyurl.com/damzh9
4) Click on link #1, explore site for a few seconds
5) Command-C, Command-V, Command-C, Command-V, b, /b, click “Add comment” button

Tom Zig says:

If you stopped using google, I fear it may go bankrupt

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If it’s not on Google, it doesn’t exist.

 
Tom Zig says:

There is always Lycos or Altavista and a myriad of other search engines that are no longer used but were once popular in the 90s.

 
jsbrendog says:

altavista = members only jacket.

sure you bust it out everyonce in a great while but never in public and you would never admit it

 
 
 
 
 
 
Makavelli says:

So you’re essentially saying:

Marte > Wagner?

I think he’s saying Marte COULD BE > Wagner.

He’s fully allowing for other possibilities.

Makavelli says:

But isn’t that always assumed?

A guy back from a long stint on the DL who didn’t perform that well before he went on it…with a small sample size of success so far since he’s been back and an old guy who used to be very good coming off of Tommy John surgery (his own stint on the DL) in which we haven’t seen at all yet

Either one can basically be better than the other…haha…right?

 
 
 
 
 
Bo says:

How about waiting for a big spot before we crown him?

 

Bo says:
How about waiting for a big spot before we crown him?

It wouldn’t matter anyway, you’d still shit on him, Bo. Don’t act like you wouldn’t.

 
Nady Nation says:

MARTE IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS! YOU WANNA CROWN HIM, THEN CROWN HIS ASS!

/Denny Green’d (or Bo’d)

 
 
 
MP says:

If Marte returns to the form he was in with the Pirates, he could be a HUGE piece of the Yankees’ September/October run.

 
Makavelli says:

Meh. Small sample size still. I don’t want to be a pessimist…but let me see a few more outings first.

But it certainly doesn’t hurt having him back…especially if he can keep up his recent performance.

CountryClub says:

You dont want to be a pessimist? I’m shocked.

Relax, I’m just kidding around.

 
 
Little Bill says:

Marte is a potentially huge addition if he can come back effectively. I would trust him over Coke in big spots if that were the case.

Bo says:
 
 
 
A.D. says:

We can only hope he’s back and healthy.

 
CountryClub says:

At the very least, for this year anyway, hopefully he becomes a shut down LOOGY.

 
Makavelli says:

Marte to the starting rotation!!!

 
Zack says:

good to see him back. hopefully he cant show everyone badmouthing him thats he’s never been good what he really is

Salty Buggah says:
 

hopefully he cant show everyone badmouthing him thats he’s never been good what he really is

I… think I know what you’re saying, and I agree.

Klemy says:

Then, would you translate for me? :P

Mike HC says:

Translation: Hopefully he can show everyone badmouthing him that he has always been good

Yes. I think. Not positive, though.

Zack says:
 
 
 
 
 
 
Salty Buggah says:

Good thing Marte is back. Now hopefully, Coke will be better too as he won’t need to be overused/over-exposed and when those things don’t happen to him, he’s VERY good. 2 lefties are always a good thing.

Remember last year in the 1st half we didn’t have a lefty except Billy Traber.

And, in a couple of weeks, we should have FOUR lefties in the pen for the stretch run.

Marte, Coke, Dunn, and WDLR. Daddy likes.

Salty Buggah says:

That would be awesome. All lefty batters in the late innings might as well sit back down.

 
 
Jose says:

Check out this classic discussion on Marte and Traber.

http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ment-57915

Salty Buggah says:

Wow, I can’t believe Mike said that.

Giving up a potential #3-4 big league starter like Jeff Marquez for a LOOGY is the definition of insanity.”

Young Mr. Axisa was quite high on the prospects of Jeffrey Marquez, wasn’t he?

What’s crazy is that all I can remember from my many prospect conversations with Mike is that he was never high on Marquez.

I bought in after his strong year in AA in 2007. Then he made me look like an idiot.

 
jsbrendog says:

The only lefty reliever out there I would even consider trading a decent prospect for is CJ Wilson. That guy’s as legit as they come, but the Rangers will never move him. Not unless they’re blown away with an offer.

cj wilson 2008 = 6.02 era 1.64 whip

ouch.

it was the best of times, it was the worst of times

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I’m much older and wiser now. That’s one of many I wish I could take back, but whatever.

It was only once, and you needed the money.

 
Klemy says:

Man, that happens to everyone though. lol

 

It would be fun, however, to have a thread of all the dumbest things we all have said on here. I know I’ve got a few gems.

You need to hire an unpaid intern to go scrounging through the old threads and compile a “worst hits” of all the regulars.

I’ll get you started, here’s Whitey14’s worst one ever: “Jim Rice deserves to be in the Hall of Fame”.

jsbrendog says:

i don’t even want to be exposed to my waffling and constant self contradictions (let alown the spelleng errirs)

Don’t worry… I don’t think they’d include 12 year olds, that would just be mean.

jsbrendog says:

you obviously don’t understand RAB commenting.

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jsbrendog says:

i think i pinpointed my first appearance on rab too. interesting

If you really wanted to see it, we could easily find it on our end.

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jsbrendog says:

nah that’s ok ha, i probably said something dumb. i was of the “I saw it with my own eyes” crew at that juncture in my sports obsessitude

 
 
 

Speaking of boneheaded moves, JSB, did you see that I’ve already dropped T.J. Duckett?

jsbrendog says:

haha i saw that. well, apparently he was blindsided by the edge. Sad thing is if given equal opportunites at this point duckett very well may be better than james

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You may as well pick him up now. We all know your season is already on life support.

 
jsbrendog says:

not yet but it will be when michael turner dies on the field of a heart attack from “teh dreaded 370!111!1!!”

 
 
jsbrendog says:

meh, im not worried. turner didnt really do much at all pre teh dreaded 370!11!!1!! so it should hit him next year.

yeah, that’s the ticket….

 
 
 
 
Makavelli says:

I’m sure I’ve got a few. And I’ll be the first to say it adds character to the board…lol

 
Slugger27 says:

i think i said back in october that offering pudge arbitration was an absolute no-brainer

whoops

A.D. says:

I said that for Abreu

 
 
Makavelli says:

“I played D&D too!!”

jsbrendog says:

i used to wear corduroy pants!

 
 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Well, I don’t remember if I posted it on here, but many moons ago I was a B-Jobber. That one would hae to be on the all time stupid comments list.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:
 
 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Then there was the legendary arguement between me and THCM, which was quickly forgotten completely as if it never happened.

Nobody knows about it because it took place on a dying thread, but it was rather vicious. I believe it was on Jeter thread.

Ah, memories!

I don’t remember the conversation… Are you pointing it out as an example of my dumbest comments or yours? Because I don’t make dumb comments.

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

What conversation?

I’ve already forgotten it.

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Haha unfortunately for you, I found it. I’ll just post the whole thread, since the whole thing is dripping with awesome.

http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....eal-15715/

 

Equally as awesome: When Salty Buggah busted you taking both sides of another issue later that very same day: http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-526527

pat’s response says it all.

 
Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

Yes, well that wasn’t one of my better days on the blog.

I feel better looking at all the other stupid things people have said though.

 

Heh… You’re not alone, they’ve all been there.

 
 
 
 
 
Jose says:

It’s all good. Memory lane is always good for a laugh. But I may have to place you on waivers.

 
Spaceman.Spiff says:

As Mike Axisa’s unofficial lawyer, I believe Jose misremembers what Mike Axisa really thought about Marquez.

 
 
Jamal G. says:

If I remember the dates correctly, the day I made that post would mean that I was still recovering from surgery. Damn, I’m quite dedicated.

 
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

But he can’t pitch in the AL!!!!!

He never could!

jsbrendog says:

yeah dumbasso fartface obv sucks. he didnt do anythingfor the yankees last year. he was only good cause he was in the nl on the pirates and never played for anyone else and doesnt have any sort of long track record of success. what a terrible trade by cashman, tabata is a HOF!! AND look at ohlendorf and karstens theyre allstars!

\ig’nant’d

“Dumbasso Fartface”… genius.

You have a talent for these things, JSB. You’re way better than DBHOF was.

Makavelli says:

Hey, give credit where credit is due…

What about “Oil painting-face Boyd” aka Matsui??

lol

 
jsbrendog says:

hmmm….i’ll take that as a compliment…even though it doesnt take much to be better than dbhof

to continue the stroll down memory lane i give you

http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ment-45329

Mike Pop says:

to continue the stroll down memory lane i give you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXBFG2vsyCM

 
 
 
 
 
Tank Foster says:

Fine, but tone down the expections…has Marte ever really been anything great as a pitcher?

/sarcasm

He’s no Billy Wagnuh, that’s for sure…

GIMME WAGNUH’S LAST FIVE APPEARANCES!!!

(chugs Diet Coke)

Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

You’re not trying to make us think of a certain radio host, are you?

 
Bo says:

Eric, you def watch Mike 5 hrs a day.

Lanny, you definitely stalk the board as more than one username and try to pretend like we don’t know it’s you.

Mike Pop says:

Wait is Lanny Bo, and Bo is Lanny?

Einhorn is Finkel? Finkel is Einhorn?

jsbrendog says:

and sal and grant

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Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster) says:

And Darth Vader is really Luke’s father too.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Mike Pop says:

Serious question:

Let’s say Marte was healthy all year, is Phil Hughes in the bullpen right now?

Bo says:

No.

You would have a better question if you said if Bruney was lights out all year.

Be happy Hughes is actually having major league success.

Mike Pop says:

Be happy Hughes is actually having major league success.

To be honest, Bo. I’d rather see him in the major leauge rotation with Mitre in the pen. This would be the correct formula for the long term – which is easy to see.

 
jsbrendog says:

so,no hughes wouldnt be in the bullpen?

this doesn’t even make any sense. please clarify

 
 
 
jsbrendog says:

oooh good question. it probably depends more on if he was successful or not.

if marte was healthy all year does coke break camp with the yanks?

Mike Pop says:

I would hope, over Alby.

 
 
 
Dela G says:

i wish marte nothing but the best

 
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