Comments on: The bunt that drove us all crazy http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:36:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Whitey14 http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-554976 Whitey14 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:23:43 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-554976 Oh that's right, I'll interject that about Jimmy Rice when we start talking about great hitters ;-) Oh that’s right, I’ll interject that about Jimmy Rice when we start talking about great hitters ;-)

]]> By: When is a good time to bunt? | The Yankee Universe http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-553667 When is a good time to bunt? | The Yankee Universe Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:46:26 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-553667 [...] general, the bunt play decreases you chances of scoring and the facts are indisputable. Ben from RAB spelled it out yesterday: In fact, it has been proven that at no point in the game does giving up [...] [...] general, the bunt play decreases you chances of scoring and the facts are indisputable. Ben from RAB spelled it out yesterday: In fact, it has been proven that at no point in the game does giving up [...]

]]> By: The bunt that drove us all crazy 3rd sense http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-553575 The bunt that drove us all crazy 3rd sense Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:55:47 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-553575 [...] Here is the original post: The bunt that drove us all crazy [...] [...] Here is the original post: The bunt that drove us all crazy [...]

]]> By: dre http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552614 dre Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:06:26 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552614 um grady Little also managed a MLB team. Just because someone is a manager it doesn't mean they know what they are doing. Managers dons't go to school for managing..so one of us couldd very well manage a team better than teh genius Girardi... um grady Little also managed a MLB team. Just because someone is a manager it doesn’t mean they know what they are doing. Managers dons’t go to school for managing..so one of us couldd very well manage a team better than teh genius Girardi…

]]> By: Link Dump: Shout-out edition | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552502 Link Dump: Shout-out edition | River Avenue Blues Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:43:25 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552502 [...] that bit on bunting Ben wrote this morning? It eventually made its way to BBTF, and by those means made it to The Book Blog (linked in the [...] [...] that bit on bunting Ben wrote this morning? It eventually made its way to BBTF, and by those means made it to The Book Blog (linked in the [...]

]]> By: RIYank http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552467 RIYank Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:10:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552467 Come on, guys, this is obvious. The way it gives you a greater chance to score one run is REALLY obvious: the run can score on an out. The way it gives you a greater chance to score two runs is almost as obvious: the two runs can score on a single. Ben is wrong. The chance of scoring one run in that situation goes *up* with a successful bunt. The chance of scoring two runs also goes up. The problem, of course, is that the bunt wasn't successful. Come on, guys, this is obvious. The way it gives you a greater chance to score one run is REALLY obvious: the run can score on an out. The way it gives you a greater chance to score two runs is almost as obvious: the two runs can score on a single.

Ben is wrong. The chance of scoring one run in that situation goes *up* with a successful bunt. The chance of scoring two runs also goes up.
The problem, of course, is that the bunt wasn’t successful.

]]> By: Todd http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552438 Todd Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:27:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552438 Thank you Josh. I thought I was the only one. In fact, when he came up, I was calling for the bunt. It seemed logical to me. Tying run on third, winning run on second with a drawn-in infield. I just didn't feel like arguing the point against a million people :) I just don't think it was as stupid as made out to be. And the game is played between the lines. It just seems to me that "the right baseball move," traditionally speaking, has to have SOME value, even if it is debateable. Thank you Josh. I thought I was the only one. In fact, when he came up, I was calling for the bunt. It seemed logical to me. Tying run on third, winning run on second with a drawn-in infield. I just didn’t feel like arguing the point against a million people :)

I just don’t think it was as stupid as made out to be. And the game is played between the lines. It just seems to me that “the right baseball move,” traditionally speaking, has to have SOME value, even if it is debateable.

]]> By: No Halladay http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552387 No Halladay Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:54:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552387 Anyone ever stop to think that Girardi manages the Yanks for a reason?? Maybe he knows more about baseball than any of us?? Maybe he's actually played MLB, not just the video game?? If you disagree with him, then that should give him the right to come to your job and analyze all your decisions and then write about them on a public forum, even though he might be less qualified than you at your job. It's fine to discuss strategy, and so forth, but at the same time give the man some credit. Besides, he knows more about baseball than any of you hacks on here anyway. Otherwise you should be sending your resumes to ever MLB team trying to get a job even at the single A level, which none of you hacks qualify for either. I know, start with Little League, a great place to show everyone your talent. Anyone ever stop to think that Girardi manages the Yanks for a reason?? Maybe he knows more about baseball than any of us?? Maybe he’s actually played MLB, not just the video game??

If you disagree with him, then that should give him the right to come to your job and analyze all your decisions and then write about them on a public forum, even though he might be less qualified than you at your job.

It’s fine to discuss strategy, and so forth, but at the same time give the man some credit. Besides, he knows more about baseball than any of you hacks on here anyway. Otherwise you should be sending your resumes to ever MLB team trying to get a job even at the single A level, which none of you hacks qualify for either.

I know, start with Little League, a great place to show everyone your talent.

]]> By: Dillon http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552320 Dillon Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:19:45 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552320 i think analysis has been done that suggests that bunting when you are down by a run or tied in the 8th or 9th inning and have first and second with no outs makes sense. (i may have those specifics wrong, but that's clearly a time when you're playing for one run) otherwise, bunting takes away from run totals and wins. the point of the bunting analysis is that when you're playing for 1 run, 1 run is likely the best you're going to get. this isn't valuable before the 8th inning since teams generally score a run every other inning on average anyway. this guy did not make the point well. you shouldn't be surprised, he's a yankee fan. i think analysis has been done that suggests that bunting when you are down by a run or tied in the 8th or 9th inning and have first and second with no outs makes sense. (i may have those specifics wrong, but that’s clearly a time when you’re playing for one run) otherwise, bunting takes away from run totals and wins.

the point of the bunting analysis is that when you’re playing for 1 run, 1 run is likely the best you’re going to get. this isn’t valuable before the 8th inning since teams generally score a run every other inning on average anyway. this guy did not make the point well. you shouldn’t be surprised, he’s a yankee fan.

]]> By: Dillon http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/the-bunt-that-drove-us-all-crazy-16354/#comment-552302 Dillon Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:07:48 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16354#comment-552302 He claims that bunting lowers the number of runs a team will likely score, in one particular situation from 1.5 to about 1.43. Sure, but in bunting situations the teams aren't trying to maximize the number of runs, rather they are trying to score ONE run and are trying to maximize the likelihood of that. He claims that bunting lowers the number of runs a team will likely score, in one particular situation from 1.5 to about 1.43. Sure, but in bunting situations the teams aren’t trying to maximize the number of runs, rather they are trying to score ONE run and are trying to maximize the likelihood of that.

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