Aug
07

The Yankees set a new attendance record, but something is still missing

By

This is a guest post by Ross at New Stadium Insider.

According to the always-handy NSI attendance tracker, the Yankees broke their single game attendance record at the new Yankee Stadium last night. We’re only halfway through the inaugural campaign, but it is significant that the Yankees reached the 49,000 mark without the benefit of selling standing room only tickets. Even with this large crowd in attendance, something was still missing.

From the moment we walked into the stadium, it was obvious that this crowd was different than others thus far in 2009. Scanning the majestic new structure, empty seats were few and far between, even in the hard to sell “Legends” seats. Impressively, there was only a smattering of Red Sox fans in attendance, a significant departure from recent installments of the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry in the Bronx.

As Michael Kay noted on last night’s television broadcast, it seemed that this was the first time that fans had come to see the game and not just to tour the facility. Kay, while eternally hyperbolic, made a valid point – if you walked around the stadium, you would have noticed shorter concession lines and a seating bowl that was filled to near-capacity.

It was definitely a relief to experience this “big game” atmosphere, especially after embarrassing new stadium debacles such as the Phillies series, when visiting fans took over and made themselves heard . However, we still have a bone to pick with Yankees fans, or perhaps even with the stadium. At the old Yankee Stadium – and other great home parks such as Fenway – crowd noise builds in anticipation of a big moment. So far in 2009, the new Yankee Stadium has had small bursts of overwhelming crowd noise, but those have typically been in response to a big moment. The wall of sound that engulfs you and makes you feel like you are a part of something truly special conspicuously absent.

We are left wondering whether that wall of sound will ever return. Is the significantly further recessed (and partially covered) upper deck to blame? Are the fans that can afford to attend games at the new Yankee Stadium even more corporate than the fans at the old one? Did the 6,000 – 7,000 extra seats in the old place make a huge difference in terms of crowd noise? We probably need to wait until the new Yankee Stadium hosts a playoff series to draw any reasonable conclusions, but as of now, we’re disappointed.

Categories : Yankee Stadium
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I’ve heard that a lot of it does have to do with the building’s design itself, which for some reason beyond my scope of understanding is less conducive to crowd noise.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      I think a lot of it has to do with a different crowd.

      The fans who would be the “rowdier” fans can no longer afford tickets, so you get a more middle to upper class form of fan at the Stadium.

      Depending on how you look at it that could be a good or a bad thing.

      • jsbrendog

        this is bullshit. upper deck tickets are still under 25 dollars. and bleahcers can be had for 15+

        not to mention if you go on stubhub you can find even these tickets below face value.

        this is the dumbest most illinformed reason. seriously

        • Chris

          I agree. Tickets last season were going for over face value. This year equivalent tickets can be had for the same or less.

        • A Poster

          Yeah…you mentioned bleachers and upper deck. That’s 2 areas of the park.

          I was at a game, smartass. And guess what? He has a point. The crowd was far less rowdy and wild. That’s not to say they were into it. But the tickets are undeniably WAY more expensive, so you get a more middle to upper class fan going to the games.

          That was one of the dumbest most ill informed (2 words dumbass) responses I’ve ever seen. Seriously.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Um, thanks!

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              Really? Agreeing with yourself? This is not cool.

              • jsbrendog

                so he is a poster too?

                if he is, then this whole “i’m switching my tag cause i can’t say what I really think under my normal one” is so goddamned annoying. it’s the internet. are you really that self conscious and worried what people think of you?

                if he is not “a poster” too then this is all a moot point and completely irrelevant

          • jsbrendog

            yeah and i’ve gone to games too. and the point that the previous “super yankee fan who just loves the game so much they cheer for everything and are always loud and rowdy” can’t afford tickets is stupid. and dumb. and not true. which, you proved by agreeing that those 2 parts of the stadium are still cheap and affordable.

            causation does not equal correlation. stadium quieter, some seats mroe expensive OH NOES!!11!!! the TRUE FANZ R PRIZED OUT!!!!!111!!!

            i made a statement of fact. the idea that regular joe is priced out of the new stadium is stupid. it is true. anything else you inferred or read itno my statement is your own fault.

            therefore, you = fail. reading comprehension = fail.

            thanks for playing tho. where are some nice parting gifts for you on the way out.

            • jsbrendog

              oh yeah. one mroe thing.

              dumbass

    • CountryClub

      It absolutely has to do with the new building. Every time a new place is built there are always complaints about the crowd noise being different. Just recently it happened here in Philly with both Eagles and Phillies fans complaining about the Vet being gone. The new buildings dont hold the sound as well as the older ones.

      I know I’m in the minority here, but I’d much rather a new state of the art stadium that enhances the viewing pleasure than being cramped in a crap seat (not to mention all the other issues that the older places have/had). I loved the old place, but it was time for it to go.

      And regardless of nostalgia, Fenway is a dump too.

  • D

    off topic Pavano to the Twins from MLBTR

    • Tom Zig

      Saying off topic doesn’t make it ok.

    • Slugger27

      who cares

    • V

      Almost everyone who posts here already reads MLBTR. You’re not breaking any news. I’d call you an annoying twit, but that’s against the guidelines.

  • Stryker

    it’s funny that this is a post today on RAB. watching the game last night (during that awesome 4th inning) my mom commented on how “soft” the crowd seemed as compared to the roars and unison “Let’s GO Yankees” chants that could once be heard during tv broadcasts. players used to hate going to yankee stadium because of the roaring crowd — but these days it’s barely audible.

  • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

    I was there last night, and I had been to about 11 other games, including ones against the Phils and Mets….it was the most intense atmosphere I have experienced in 2009.

    • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

      Completely agree with that.

      However, it doesn’t come close to the experience at the old stadium in terms of crowd noise and participation.

      • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

        On a whole yes, but a few times it got old school rowdy…

      • Slugger27

        i think this is hyperbole

        “doesnt come close”??? come on…. the old stadium was great, but lets not get carried away. its not like it was some mystical, out-of-body experience or anything. it was a stadium that held a few more seats and was a little more intimidating cuz of the upper deck hanging… thats pretty much it

        • Moshe Mandel

          + A lot.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Totally agree.

          • CountryClub

            The problem is that people compare the new place to the “best of” moments of the old place. They talk about the triple that Girardi hit in 96 or the O’Neill chants or 9th inning homers in 01. Until this type of moment presents itself in the new place, we’ll never truly know.

            • johnmeister

              Wrong. Completely wrong. The great thing about the old Stadium was that people would cheer for a third strike in the 2nd inning. Of course, it got loud in 2001 when Brosius hit the homer. It will get loud in the new Stadium as well (though probably not as loud).

              But will it get loud when there is a crucial double play in the 3rd inning? Probably not in the lower deck of the stadium.

              • CountryClub

                I disagree. But whatever…

  • 27 this year

    I think the openness of the stadium prevents the sound from being heard right onto the field. Before, the upper deck was on top of the field and the steepness makes the stadium like a pit and the sound gets trapped. I feel like the openness causes the sound to be less heard.

  • http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif OmgZombies!

    They didnt even mimic “You Did Steroids” to Big Poopy :(
    I was very disappointed.

    • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

      I disagree, his first AB was intense, STER-OIDS, STER-OIDS, STER-OIDS was so loud that Papi stepped out.

      • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

        See, I was out behind the bleachers for that, and I couldn’t even make out the “STER-OIDS” chants. I think it is just that the place is so open, the noise just disappears.

        • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

          I was in RF section 105…it was pretty rowdy out there…probably because a lot of the fans in the no padded seats over at the new stadium got moved there.

          People were chanting “Asshole” at Sox fans in 105/106.

          • JGS

            i was in 205–we would have chanted the same if we had any Sox fans in our section. The real surprise to me yesterday was how few Sox fans there were there

          • Observer283

            I believe the proper term here is “Masshole.” As someone who went to school in Massachusetts, I’m not sure there is a more appropriate derisive chant in all of sport.

  • scoopemup

    This is not Yankee Stadium,never will be.The real Yankee Stadium lays dormant across the street,waiting out its final days until the wrecking ball destroys it along with the dreams and memories of countless fans.The new ballpark should be called The Mall on 161st Street.They should consider selling the naming rights.

    • Chris

      Yankee stadium was destroyed 36 years ago.

    • Rob H.

      I wasn’t aware that a wrecking ball could destroy dreams, memories, etc. Wow, thanks for telling us this. I really didn’t know that a wrecking ball destroying a building could literally destroy your brain that houses your memory. Good to know. thanks.

  • Kiersten

    I found concession lines to be longer last night. And the line for the women’s bathroom at one point was absurd, I’ve never waited in line at the new Stadium. Nitpicking, but throwing in my 2 cents.

    Seems to me the acoustics just aren’t as good at this stadium. I noticed it the first game I was at when Mo came in, the stadium didn’t rumble the way the old one did, even for a relatively meaningless early-June game against the Rangers.

    Definitely the most intense crowd of the season though, by far. People standing for 2 strikes in the 1st/2nd inning? Haven’t seen that in a looooong time. The “Boston Sucks” chants were lacking though.

    • Kiersten

      And let me add that the fact that this was the first Red Sox sellout of the season and only the 2nd overall is disgusting.

  • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

    I should have mentioned that bathroom lines were, indeed, the worst of the season. The trick was to go to the bathrooms in the upper deck (even if you were sitting in the lower). Take the elevators from the great hall and you’ll be done much quicker than if you wait in line on the lower levels.

    • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

      I didn’t hit lines at all for the bathroom. I sit in sec105, and the bathroom right behind my seats was fine.

      The beer vendor ladies were another story. Usually they are great, last night, they were slow as fuck….to the point where someone behind me yelled “Hey, you aren’t splitting atoms here!!!!!”

      Then, the dumpster on wheels thingy came by, and my beer lady left from pouring my beer, to help it get through and throw garbage in.

      Now, I know she wasn’t handling food, but I said “I don’t want to be a stickler, but you’re gonna wash your hands, right?”…she looked back at me with disgust and said “I didn’t touch no garbage”.

      At that point I just wanted to get back to my seats, but come on…

  • Moshe Mandel

    The old park is going to be romanticized until it turns into this giant myth of a place, a glorious park as opposed to the bucket of greed across the street. I have been to a number of games in the new park, and have found the crowd to be about as loud as it was in the old place. I sat in the bleachers and the upper deck, and if there was any difference, it was minute.

    • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

      Moshe,

      You would never believe it, but fundamentally I have the same views as you on romanticizing the old stadium. The fact is, the old place was louder and more intimidating. Believe me, I can remember how it sounded in the old place – it wasn’t that long ago!

      I actually enjoy the new stadium. I love the fact that I can go and stand behind section 120a ($375 seats) and actually SEE the players faces, hear the crack of the bat, etc.

      However, one of my favorite parts of live sporting events is being a part of the crowd noise, feeling that rush when your one voice becomes a huge booming wall of sound. It is why I still go back to my Alma Mater, Penn State to watch football games, it is why I lived for GOING to playoff games at Yankee Stadium. It is why some of my greatest memories are NY Knicks and NY Rangers games at the Garden. With HD television, everyone has a much better view at home.

      The thing that sets going to a live event apart is being a part of the crowd, and at the new Yankee Stadium, that aspect has been lacking. Hopefully it improves.

      • Moshe Mandel

        That’s fair. I just have heard so much complaining about the Stadium that I was shocked when I went there for the first time and loved the place. I have gone with a number of people, and all have agreed that in terms of the fan experience, it is a major improvement on the old place. Might the noise escape more? Yeah, I guess that is possible. As I said, I did not notice a huge difference, nothing that made me say “wow, it is much quieter in here,” and I have been to enough games in my life to have a pretty strong memory of the old place as well. Also, if I have to sacrifice a bit of noise to have the open concourses and generally airier feel as opposed to the cave like corridors in the old place, I can live with that.

        • johnmeister

          Moshe, sitting in the Upper Deck, of course it is loud. That’s where the fans are that cheer the loudest. But take a wander through the lower deck when the cheering is happening upstairs and you will find it isn’t as loud as it was in the lower deck.

          But don’t linger too long, lest you get shooed away!

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        I’ll co-sign on this comment.

        Look… Of course people are over-romanticizing the old Stadium. That’s what people do. But the crowd-noise and intensity in the new Stadium just isn’t as loud or intense as it was in the old building across the street. People may over-romanticize the old place, but that doesn’t mean the noise/intensity in the new place isn’t weaker by comparison.

        I know this isn’t a scientific study… But I’m there* (and I was in the old building) a lot, I have season tickets. So, take from this what you will… But as someone who has spent a lot of time in both the old and new buildings, this is my opinion.

        *I’m not talking about last night in particular but the season in general, I skipped last night’s game. I tend to skip the games that invite a zoo-like atmosphere until it gets later in the season.

    • Slugger27

      u worded it better than i ever could have… i think all these comparisons have gotten old a long time ago

      yankee fans talking about how great and mythical the old stadium was is starting to sound like red sox fans talking about the intangible things jason varitek brings to a baseball team

      yes the old stadium was a fun experience and a great place to watch a game, but at the end of the day, thats really all it was… not some stariway to heaven that could cure cancer just by standing in it

      • johnmeister

        You really devastated that straw man. Unless you can find someone who thought the Stadium could cure cancer.

        I go to about 15 games a year for the past several years. I have about 15 games this year in new Stadium. The upper deck if you are sitting there is about as loud as ever. The lower deck is quiet. And the cheers from the upper deck don’t travel as well down to the field. After all, the upper deck is higher up and further back.

        Look the new Stadium will eventually have its own memories. But no need to knock the people who miss the old one.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Completely true.

  • Bill

    I was thinking the same thing last night.I bet the noise level picks up the next 2 games.Yankee Stadium will not be as loud as the OLD Yankee Stadium.

  • http://www.onedayonejob.com/ Willy

    For a group that relies so heavily on stats when discussing player performance, there’s a huge reliance on anecdotal evidence when it comes to the new stadium’s atmosphere. Will one of you please come up with a stat like Loudness Output Leverage so that we can take an empirical approach to this discussion?

    • Slugger27

      ietc

    • Klemy

      IETC as well.

  • Stuckey

    The New York Yankees have the 2nd best home record in baseball and best in the AL, a game back of San Fran.

    Let me repeat that.

    The New York Yankees have the best home record in the AL.

    One more time…

    The New York Yankees have the best home record in the AL.

    THIS is why Yankee fans have the reputation we do, because despite beating their arch rival to reach their high water mark of the season in terms of record and division lead, fans still figure how to pitch about how the Yankee experience isn’t somehow the model of enviable perfection.

    The new Stadium isn’t as loud as it used to be..??

    WAAAAAAHHHHHH.

    Guess what, it hasn’t negatively impacted the effect (if there was ever any) ON THE FIELD, where it matters.

    The place is more comfortable and more convenient, and the team is doing what we ask of it, creating their OWN home field advantage.

    Yet because we can’t bask in our own self-perceived superiority as fans for having the most racuous home atmosphere, the Yankee organization has failed us all??

    Some of us need to get a life, and that includes you Joseph and guest-blogger Ross.

    What’s “missing” is any self-awareness of how tedious these complaints have become.

    • Slugger27

      What’s “missing” is any self-awareness of how tedious these complaints have become

      that part i agree with… the rest (while i do agree with some) came across pretty harsh… might wanna cuten it up a little next time

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      So many places to start, but I’ll stick with two.

      1) Ok, we’ll just stop writing about anything, because the Yankees are in first place and there’s nothing to be critical of. I hate this line of thinking. We’re baseball fans. We like to talk baseball. This team and its Stadium are not perfect. We like to talk about those imperfections.

      2) If Ross and I need lives for thinking about and writing these things, then what do you need, Stuckey, for making a comment about it?

      • Stuckey

        1.) It’s August 7th. 2/3rds of the season is over. It shouldn’t take the CSI team to figure out the places are different.

        Th lack acceptance of this FACT is what makes it tedious.

        And its not about baseball. Its about fandom. It’s about being a fan of being a fan, which is by definition self-important.

        2.) Self-control, in which for this case, I plead guilty.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Just as a follow-up, that a guy who writes a Yankees blog needs a life is pretty self-evident, no?

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            This IS your life. It is your being, your essence.

            This blog is YOU.

            Far out, man.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              Please don’t say that. I might have no life, but I am not defined by this blog.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Sorry. I’m just joking.

                I’m not really serious, just trying to continue a running gag.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

                  Sorry. You hit a tender spot there. I’m not sure what defines me, but I sure as hell know what doesn’t.

          • Stuckey

            No, not at all.

            I understand the love of baseball. That’s why I’m reading this blog. Because I love baseball.

            Furthermore I don’t deny being part of a fan experience is enjoyable. I didn’t see Girardi’s triple or Posada’s double, but I was there when Justice teed on on Arthur Rhodes (a shot the entire crowd I was watching the game with KNEW was coming) and it was great.

            But I’ll say it again, its August 7th and the Yankees are winning at home as well as can be expected.

            Its just time to move on. Its time for closure.

            Fans still waiting to relive a past experience DO need to move on.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              Agreed on the last line. It’s hard, though. Humans are emotional creatures. This is the still the first season away from the old ballpark. I can totally understand the sentiment it evokes.

              • Stuckey

                Understood, but there IS an undeniable sense of entitlement when it comes to Yankee fans. And given I’m someone who JUST old enough to remember when Mattingly’s upper deck shots almost invariably landed in a sea on empty seats, instant nostalgia for what’s in reality a short era in Yankee history is a little grating.

                And I would also SAY I understand baseball in unique in terms of the everyday factor, the nitpicking the becomes inevitable to fuel blogs like this one is also a little hard to digest some times.

                Throw these two things together and its hard not to walk away with the impression that Yankee fans can sometimes lack in the perspective department.

                I get the “emotion” part, but when fans become inconsolable when the Yankees have the audacity to be trailing in the 4th inning of ANY game, and when bloggers choose the arguable morning of the high point of the season to find SOMETHING to complain about, understand that some might not see the same charm in it others do.

  • steve s

    I think this idea that the New Stadium isn’t as loud as the Old Stadium is unfairly gaining momentum and is attaining urban myth status. There has only been a handful of real electric moments in the New Stadium so far (Castillo dropping the ball being the best example and the noise at that moment was as loud as any regular season Old Stadium moment that I recall) as compared to the hundred of moments from the Old Stadium. The loudest moment I ever experienced in the Old Stadium was Girardi’s triple in Game 6 of 1996 and the noise combined with the stands shaking was powerful. We at least need to experience a few comparable great post-season moments in the New Stadium to figure out if the noise issue is bs or not.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      I think you make a good point. When I think loud Yankee Stadium moment, I think Girardi’s triple, or Jorge’s double in the 03 ALCS. Those moments have yet to happen at the new park, so it’s tough to compare. It just seems that these Red Sox games were louder last year. That’s all.

      • Slugger27

        It just seems that these Red Sox games were louder last year. That’s all.

        while im whole-heartedly on the “noise issue is way overblown and the new stadium is awesome” side of things, im curious as to why u think this is… is it the fans? is it the stadiums shape? is it the slightly reduced capactiy?

        i cant imagine its the fans… i suppose the stadiums design and reduced capacity could potentially affect the noise level, but not drastically so

        in your opinion, what/who should be blamed?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          I’m not blaming anything, per se. It’s just an observation. Humans are terrible at assigning causal blame, so I try avoid it when I can.

      • Klemy

        I actually woke the whole house up when Jorge got that double. I jumped off the couch, yelled at the top of my lungs, pumped my fist several times and thought to myself, there must be thousands of other fans right now, doing the same thing and thousands of Red Sox fans just crushed. What a moment…

    • A Poster

      Excellent point.

      +1.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Fantastic points, also +1.

    • Brian R.

      I agree. We haven’t yet had comparable moments. But I can’t imagine the new place ever being as loud, simply for 3 previously stated reasons.

      1. Further recessed and smaller capacity upper deck.
      2. Open-air structure.
      3. Fewer overall seats. (Yeah, there are more people in the bars/clubs/restaurants, but you can’t hear them…4th reason)

  • A Poster

    Look..I went to a game this year. Damon’s walkoff. And the noise at the Stadium was as loud as it has been in either ballpark. The stands were packed, the crowd was into it, everybody had a blast.

    I think that on the whole this whole “not as intense” thing is more urban legend than truth.

    • A Poster

      By the way, I love both Stadiums. The other stadium was louder by perhaps a touch (it’s really not that huge of a difference) but this Stadium is more fun to relax and watch a game in because you don’t feel like sardines.

      • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

        This is very true.

      • Chris

        I think the difference in how loud the stadiums are is simply a matter of the number of fans. Reducing the capacity by 10% will reduce the noise level by 10%, even if nothing else changes.

    • Bo

      Total myth. You dont think it was loud all those walk off’s against Minn?

  • pete c.

    I haven’t been to the new stadium yet, and maybe I’ll never get to “the house that greed built” but I have freinds that have been there, and they all say it’s a lot quieter, supposedly because of the interiors new dimensions. The old park used to rock, literally.
    One of 20 the best moments of my life was the ASSHOLE chant when Manny Ramirez came to the plate in the 1st Yankee home game after Pedro dumped Don Zimmer on his head. ’03 I think. I was in the upper deck and the stadium literally shook.

  • manimal

    The stupid NESN feed only zoomed in on the 3 sox fans and made the fans sound like whispering.

  • manimal

    Maybe the noise issue isnt technical… The seats where real fans used to sit are now replaced with seats where men in buisness suits sit. They had a quick glimpse of the Legends seats on NESN(I’m in MA) and not one person was wearing a jersey or a hat or anything to represent that they were a fan of the Yanks.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      That’s what I’m thinking.

    • Chris

      Why do you have to wear a hat or jersey to be a considered a “real fan?”

    • Rob H.

      I understand that the legends seats and such are geared towards the more higher class. However I take issue with the whole, “they aren’t real fans” statements. Just b/c they have done very well for themselves and choose not to wear jerseys, hats, etc. that makes them not real fans? So basically these people have to bring a change of clothes in order to come across to you, and others who think that way, that they are “real fans”?? You are lumping a whole lot of people together in one statement that is overall false, IMO.

    • Moshe Mandel

      This is the explanation I buy the least. Firstly, it suggests that rich people are not fans. Second, in most games there are plenty of jerseys back there. Third, those seats were for the wealthy in the old place as well. The working man could never afford those seats.

      • Klemy

        While I can’t speak to point 2 because I haven’t been there yet, I do have to believe points 1 and 3 explain my thoughts better then I did in my post below.

    • Klemy

      Entirely believable, but is it possible that it’s grasping at straws to believe that more well to do people in those seats don’t cheer loudly as well?

    • Stuckey

      “Real fans”??

      Where were the REAL fans up until 1996? Are the 4 million people who started showing up in the last 5 years ALL people in their 20s?

      More than half of the “real fans” BEGAN showing up when the Yankees started to go to the play-offs EVERY year.

      Which is perfectly fine and understandable. Attendance increases when the team wins. That a law of nature.

      But this attempt at classwar by distinguishing between “real fans” and others is based on a fallacy.

      • Rob H.

        +1

      • Chris

        Perhaps the definition of a “real fan” should be changed to include someone that would spend more on one season ticket than I did on my first house?

  • Rich James

    how bout we wait til the playoffs…because it was very rare that we every got that sound you were talking about in the regular season..

    • http://newstadiuminsider.com Ross

      The last line of my post reads:

      We probably need to wait until the new Yankee Stadium hosts a playoff series to draw any reasonable conclusions, but as of now, we’re disappointed.

      • Mike Pop

        Heh, reading comprehension fail.

  • Mike HC

    I think it is due to the open concourse rather than having a small hallway to get to the actual field. Having everything open takes attention away from the game. In the old stadium, when you were in your seats, there was not concession stands right behind you. It was all seats. All fans. The atmosphere is completely different when everything is open. It may be more fan friendly, but it takes away from some of the atmosphere of just being at a baseball game, completely surrounded by a sea of fans.

  • LosingOurHeads

    I was at the last game in the old Stadium. That was such an incredible feeling/night.

    The first game at the new Stadium seemed really un Yankee Stadium like to me and I blamed it on my memories of the Final Game. I like the new stadium but I agree that the recessed Grandstand is the problem. And I LIKE the Grandstand. I like just about everything about the new Stadium but I feel very disconnected from the rest of the fans when I’m there.

    Unfortunately I don’t think there is anything they can or will do about it.

  • Drew

    Hard to judge off last night. For one, it was the first game where it actually looked sold out. Secondly, it wasn’t much of a nail biter after the 4th inning.

    Tonight, if we see a pitchers duel, I’d expect a better gauge of how the stadium really reacts to a “playoff atmosphere” type situation.

  • Joebrah

    I know it may not be as good as before, but it’s still one of the best ballparks to see a game because of the fans.

    I live out in Arizona, but try to make it out every year, at least once, to see a game. I saw one game in the Orioles series in mid-May, and I was not disappointed. Compared to the Arizona Diamondbacks fans, who are reluctant to get up during a playoff game, down 1 with runners at second and third, 2 out, bottom 8 (true story, i was told to “SIT DOWN!”), Yankees fans are like the Lambaeu warriors.

    And, with the new stadium, it’s not as great, i don’t think anybody thinks otherwise, but it’s got it’s subtlelties, that may get mixed up for somebody who lives in New York. Like, the fact that it’s the same subway stop, Yankee Tavern, and the crowd.

  • manimal
    • Drew

      Aaaaaaaaaaand things are back to normal.

  • AJ’s Chin Music Ensemble

    i was at the game last night and the tension before the big inning was intense…most we heard was the grumbling when Joba kept walking people…it’s been that way all year…explode in the big moments and then nothing…it’s seems to play out that way this season I noticed.

  • Bo

    You want them to have payrolls over 200mill? Then deal with the 2500$ Legend seats. Deal with them being half full while the people sitting there are in the restaurants and bars.

  • MoJO

    It’s the building. I have seats on the main level btwn 1st and the foul pole. The upper deck is no longer above our heads and the sound just dissipates into the air and into the concession area. In Ruth’s place, all that noise from the 1st and 2nd levels bounced off the concrete walls btwn the seats and concessions and came back onto the field. I sat in the same seats when Tino hit is grand slam in the 98 series. The new stadium will NEVER seem as loud to me as it did that day. Period.

  • Greg

    There haven’t really been many big games held there yet. The old place wasn’t that loud for your average regular season game, either. Last night was the first game you’d expect to have that atmosphere and it seemed to be plenty loud when it was still a game, but total blowouts combined with your pitchers giving up 12 walks will defnitely take away intensity.

  • Tony

    The game itself wasn’t exactly exciting. The first five took 2 and a half hours and they were up by 7+ runs for most of it. Not a time to evaluate the “wall of sound” thing. I think we’ve all noticed that the crowds have been better lately; I imagine that the novelty is wearing off.

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    …if you pay $2500 for a seat, you’re a real fan. you can root for the other team if you want. just pay your money and stand for God Bless America and you’re fine.

    I was at the Melky hit it to right center in his walkoff week, and the place erupted. I mean wow. Or, I screamed like a b!tch with a skinned knee and I only heard myself scream. Either way.