Comments on: What to make of Phil Coke http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/ A New York Yankees Blog Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:48:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Okula67Fan http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-556469 Okula67Fan Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:10:49 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-556469 Salty, I would say Phil Coke has given up 9 homeruns in 51.2 innings! Of the 41 hits he has given up, 9 are homeruns. He is not a shutdown pitcher, especially against lefthanded hitters (Davis, Mauer, Morneau). Marte has been an excellent reliever in the past and pitched well until getting hurt in the WBC. When are they going to find out if he can help (2 innings since returning from DL)? As for Hughes, it is a joke that he is sitting in the bullpen getting only 8 innings in August! Salty,

I would say Phil Coke has given up 9 homeruns in 51.2 innings! Of the 41 hits he has given up, 9 are homeruns. He is not a shutdown pitcher, especially against lefthanded hitters (Davis, Mauer, Morneau). Marte has been an excellent reliever in the past and pitched well until getting hurt in the WBC. When are they going to find out if he can help (2 innings since returning from DL)? As for Hughes, it is a joke that he is sitting in the bullpen getting only 8 innings in August!

]]> By: Tank Foster http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555514 Tank Foster Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:09:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555514 That was the cleverest blog comment I think I've ever read. That was the cleverest blog comment I think I’ve ever read.

]]> By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555500 King of Fruitless Hypotheticals Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:52:29 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555500 there are 10 types of people: those that understand binary, and those that dont. there are 10 types of people: those that understand binary, and those that dont.

]]> By: Jordan http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555495 Jordan Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:50:32 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555495 Even though you really can't prove it totally, his slider is -0.8 runs worse than league average, compared to his fastball, which is +6.2 runs better than league average. And assuming he faces more lefties, his bad slider to lefties would probably correlate to his spotty performances. Even though you really can’t prove it totally, his slider is -0.8 runs worse than league average, compared to his fastball, which is +6.2 runs better than league average. And assuming he faces more lefties, his bad slider to lefties would probably correlate to his spotty performances.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555488 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:42:03 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555488 ICWUDT ICWUDT

]]> By: leokitty http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555487 leokitty Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:41:41 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555487 That's the one! It's a very special achievement. That’s the one! It’s a very special achievement.

]]> By: Tank Foster http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555475 Tank Foster Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:38:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555475 Coke's strength is also his weakness. He throws strikes. Like any reliever, his aggregate results get skewed by individual bad outings. I haven't run the numbers, but it seems to me that on the season he's had many more good outings than bad. He has been dominant at times, too. I think managers are getting better data, and the slave-like adherence to the use of the "situational lefty" is fading, at least some. Some lefty batters are almost worthless against lefty pitchers, but not all, and at least it seems like managers don't reserve the lefty reliever for the lefty batter exclusively as much as they used to. I think Girardi uses Coke as a generic reliever, not a lefty specialist per se. Maybe he leans toward him, when facing a lefty, all things being equal, but I don't think Girardi would proclaim Coke worthless because he's given up lots of homers to lefties. Anyway...Chris Davis does have pretty dramatic platoon splits, but the one thing that's closest to "normal" for him against lefties is homers, where he has 4 in 89 PA, versus 12 in 201 PA against righties, nearly the same HR ratio. I guess you can say Coke "failed," but sometimes guys hit homers. Coke’s strength is also his weakness. He throws strikes. Like any reliever, his aggregate results get skewed by individual bad outings. I haven’t run the numbers, but it seems to me that on the season he’s had many more good outings than bad. He has been dominant at times, too.

I think managers are getting better data, and the slave-like adherence to the use of the “situational lefty” is fading, at least some. Some lefty batters are almost worthless against lefty pitchers, but not all, and at least it seems like managers don’t reserve the lefty reliever for the lefty batter exclusively as much as they used to. I think Girardi uses Coke as a generic reliever, not a lefty specialist per se. Maybe he leans toward him, when facing a lefty, all things being equal, but I don’t think Girardi would proclaim Coke worthless because he’s given up lots of homers to lefties.

Anyway…Chris Davis does have pretty dramatic platoon splits, but the one thing that’s closest to “normal” for him against lefties is homers, where he has 4 in 89 PA, versus 12 in 201 PA against righties, nearly the same HR ratio. I guess you can say Coke “failed,” but sometimes guys hit homers.

]]> By: Bo http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555472 Bo Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:30:23 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555472 He's not going to go to Marte with much frequency because hes been hurt. He’s not going to go to Marte with much frequency because hes been hurt.

]]> By: Joseph Pawlikowski http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555471 Joseph Pawlikowski Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:25:31 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555471 My only response to this: 10101011100101 My only response to this:

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]]> By: Joseph Pawlikowski http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/what-to-make-of-phil-coke-16447/#comment-555470 Joseph Pawlikowski Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:25:16 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16447#comment-555470 If he only allowed 1 in April, it was on Opening Day to Cesar Izturis. If he only allowed 1 in April, it was on Opening Day to Cesar Izturis.

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