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	<title>Comments on: Yanks just need a couple more solid weeks from Posada</title>
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		<title>By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know... I mean, I guess it could be tough for some people to learn to keep their hand hidden either behind their thigh or back.  I mean, anything&#039;s possible.  But, really, it&#039;s not hard.  Sit in a catcher&#039;s crouch, and try it.  I was a catcher once upon a time, and I can&#039;t imagine why it would be hard for anyone to keep their throwing hand behind their thigh or back.  It&#039;s the simplest thing in the world.  It&#039;s not like learning to bunt well.  A 5 year old could learn to keep their throwing hand hidden in about 20 seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230; I mean, I guess it could be tough for some people to learn to keep their hand hidden either behind their thigh or back.  I mean, anything&#8217;s possible.  But, really, it&#8217;s not hard.  Sit in a catcher&#8217;s crouch, and try it.  I was a catcher once upon a time, and I can&#8217;t imagine why it would be hard for anyone to keep their throwing hand behind their thigh or back.  It&#8217;s the simplest thing in the world.  It&#8217;s not like learning to bunt well.  A 5 year old could learn to keep their throwing hand hidden in about 20 seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tank Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the best questions we discuss.  It gets easier if you don&#039;t frame it as a yes/no question.  

Posada is one of the best catchers of his generation, and is definitely a better player than many guys in the Hall, and probably many catchers.

I don&#039;t think his career has been long enough, though, to make him a legit HOF&#039;er.  But even that&#039;s arguable.  Yeah, like 11 semi-full seasons...not alot.  But there aren&#039;t many catchers who play 15-20 full seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best questions we discuss.  It gets easier if you don&#8217;t frame it as a yes/no question.  </p>
<p>Posada is one of the best catchers of his generation, and is definitely a better player than many guys in the Hall, and probably many catchers.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think his career has been long enough, though, to make him a legit HOF&#8217;er.  But even that&#8217;s arguable.  Yeah, like 11 semi-full seasons&#8230;not alot.  But there aren&#8217;t many catchers who play 15-20 full seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Tank Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not at first he didn&#039;t.  Here&#039;s how I imagine the exchange:

Jorge (trotting to mound): &quot;Come on, meat, why don&#039;t you want to throw the fastball here?  You need to trust it and own it and tie him up inside strike three!&quot;

Clemens: &quot;Just STFU and catch the splitter away.&quot;

Post game interview...

Clemens: &quot;Jorge&#039;s great, man, we were on the same page and it was just like playing catch.  I have the utmost respect for him.  He&#039;s a great catcher.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at first he didn&#8217;t.  Here&#8217;s how I imagine the exchange:</p>
<p>Jorge (trotting to mound): &#8220;Come on, meat, why don&#8217;t you want to throw the fastball here?  You need to trust it and own it and tie him up inside strike three!&#8221;</p>
<p>Clemens: &#8220;Just STFU and catch the splitter away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Post game interview&#8230;</p>
<p>Clemens: &#8220;Jorge&#8217;s great, man, we were on the same page and it was just like playing catch.  I have the utmost respect for him.  He&#8217;s a great catcher.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tank Foster</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/08/yanks-just-need-a-couple-more-solid-weeks-from-posada-16415/#comment-554007</link>
		<dc:creator>Tank Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear you guys are such nitpickers.  So if we&#039;re gonna do that....it isn&#039;t relevant to use Jorge&#039;s 2007 year as a comparison, either, because that was an unusually good year for him.  

Here are OPS+ ratings in 2007: Posada 154, Giambi 108 (83g), Jeter (121), ARod (177), Matsui (123), Cano (120).

And &#039;08: Posada 103 (51g), Giambi 128, Jeter, 102, ARod 150, Matsui 108 (93g), Cano 86.

So while you Giambi didn&#039;t completely replace Posada&#039;s &#039;07 production, he certainly was one guy who had a big production increase for &#039;08.  And, obviously, many guys slumped in &#039;08, so blaming it all on Posada is a stretch.

Here&#039;s what&#039;s funny...the 2008 team scored about 180 fewer runs than the 07 team, and gave up about 50 less.  So while I&#039;d still argue that its wrong to blame 2008 on Posada&#039;s absence, pitching was actually better than in 07.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear you guys are such nitpickers.  So if we&#8217;re gonna do that&#8230;.it isn&#8217;t relevant to use Jorge&#8217;s 2007 year as a comparison, either, because that was an unusually good year for him.  </p>
<p>Here are OPS+ ratings in 2007: Posada 154, Giambi 108 (83g), Jeter (121), ARod (177), Matsui (123), Cano (120).</p>
<p>And &#8217;08: Posada 103 (51g), Giambi 128, Jeter, 102, ARod 150, Matsui 108 (93g), Cano 86.</p>
<p>So while you Giambi didn&#8217;t completely replace Posada&#8217;s &#8217;07 production, he certainly was one guy who had a big production increase for &#8217;08.  And, obviously, many guys slumped in &#8217;08, so blaming it all on Posada is a stretch.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s funny&#8230;the 2008 team scored about 180 fewer runs than the 07 team, and gave up about 50 less.  So while I&#8217;d still argue that its wrong to blame 2008 on Posada&#8217;s absence, pitching was actually better than in 07.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: KayGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>KayGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clemens apparently loved throwing to posada</description>
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		<title>By: JobaWockeeZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JobaWockeeZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah 2008 is a really bad example if you want to compare. There were numerous reasons why 2008 sucked. Jorge is a part of it. He was a huge part of it. But he wasn&#039;t the only part of it. It doesn&#039;t make sense saying &quot;Since Jorge got injured last year and couldn&#039;t play and that team sucked, it means the team sucks without Jorge.&quot; Sure I&#039;m exaggerating a bit but that&#039;s the kind of feeling I&#039;m seeing.

Lots of factors contributed to the bad 2008 team. First of all bad pitching. Really bad pitching. IPK and Hughes didn&#039;t work out. CMW got injured. Pettitte was ineffective due to his elbow problems. I mean the Yanks had to rely on guys like Ponson and Rasner. 

Then there&#039;s the offense. Jorge got injured and the Yanks relied on Molina and his .500 OPS or something to catch everyday. Matsui also got injured and missed out a lot of time in the year. Cano was slumping terribly that year.  They relied on bad Melky. Jeter had his second worst season actually BA and OBP be damned. As a side note he hit .300 and had a OBP of .363 but a poor slugging made his OPS .771
I mean this is arguably Jeter&#039;s worst seasons and he still hits 300. The dude&#039;s a beast.

Anyways saying that losing Jorge will have a 2008-ish effect makes no sense since all those other factors are gone. Pitching is heavily improved. The offense got Matsui back, a regular god like Jeter, and a really improved Cano. They CAN live with Molina catching a few games.  They CAN carry Jorge this year.

But I&#039;m not saying Posada sucks or he is invaluable. Believe me I love Jorge. He&#039;s definitely one of the top catchers in the league after Mauer. But having Molina catch sometimes especially when Jorge needs a rest is fine by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah 2008 is a really bad example if you want to compare. There were numerous reasons why 2008 sucked. Jorge is a part of it. He was a huge part of it. But he wasn&#8217;t the only part of it. It doesn&#8217;t make sense saying &#8220;Since Jorge got injured last year and couldn&#8217;t play and that team sucked, it means the team sucks without Jorge.&#8221; Sure I&#8217;m exaggerating a bit but that&#8217;s the kind of feeling I&#8217;m seeing.</p>
<p>Lots of factors contributed to the bad 2008 team. First of all bad pitching. Really bad pitching. IPK and Hughes didn&#8217;t work out. CMW got injured. Pettitte was ineffective due to his elbow problems. I mean the Yanks had to rely on guys like Ponson and Rasner. </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the offense. Jorge got injured and the Yanks relied on Molina and his .500 OPS or something to catch everyday. Matsui also got injured and missed out a lot of time in the year. Cano was slumping terribly that year.  They relied on bad Melky. Jeter had his second worst season actually BA and OBP be damned. As a side note he hit .300 and had a OBP of .363 but a poor slugging made his OPS .771<br />
I mean this is arguably Jeter&#8217;s worst seasons and he still hits 300. The dude&#8217;s a beast.</p>
<p>Anyways saying that losing Jorge will have a 2008-ish effect makes no sense since all those other factors are gone. Pitching is heavily improved. The offense got Matsui back, a regular god like Jeter, and a really improved Cano. They CAN live with Molina catching a few games.  They CAN carry Jorge this year.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not saying Posada sucks or he is invaluable. Believe me I love Jorge. He&#8217;s definitely one of the top catchers in the league after Mauer. But having Molina catch sometimes especially when Jorge needs a rest is fine by me.</p>
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		<title>By: McGatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uh no, Giambi&#039;s contributions in 2008 vs. 2007 didn&#039;t come close to making up for Jorgie&#039;s loss.  Posada in 2007 had an epic offensive year. Fangraphs had him at 7.1 WAR, seven wins above a replacement catcher.  His loss last year left the Yankees with a 0.8 WAR and a big fat 0.0 from Molina.  Giambi went from 0.8 WAR in 2007 to 2.3 in 2008.  So that&#039;s a +1.5.
So Jorge&#039;s loss alone accounted for about 5 wins.  I&#039;d say that makes Cecilio&#039;s statement about 2008 pretty much spot on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uh no, Giambi&#8217;s contributions in 2008 vs. 2007 didn&#8217;t come close to making up for Jorgie&#8217;s loss.  Posada in 2007 had an epic offensive year. Fangraphs had him at 7.1 WAR, seven wins above a replacement catcher.  His loss last year left the Yankees with a 0.8 WAR and a big fat 0.0 from Molina.  Giambi went from 0.8 WAR in 2007 to 2.3 in 2008.  So that&#8217;s a +1.5.<br />
So Jorge&#8217;s loss alone accounted for about 5 wins.  I&#8217;d say that makes Cecilio&#8217;s statement about 2008 pretty much spot on</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...i think we may actually MAKE some of those teams sub .500...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;i think we may actually MAKE some of those teams sub .500&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Makavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Makavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Red Sox have been hammering Doc for a while now...and Doc doesn&#039;t really look as sharp as he did earlier in the season.  The Rays just banged him around the other day.

I&#039;d love to face the Rangers in the first round of the playoffs.  They&#039;re basically a similar style club to ours...but worse on all accounts.  They have decent enough pitching to go along with their offense which is 2nd best in the league.  We have VERY GOOD pitching to go along with our BEST offense in baseball.  And both our pitching and offense is head and shoulders above theirs.

The Red Sox with Beckett and Lester worry me a little bit.  As do the Angels.  The Angels have literally one starting position player batting under .300 and it&#039;s the catcher...and he&#039;s batting over .290.  Their pitching is FAR worse than it used to be...but for whatever reason...we still can&#039;t beat them and Boston ALWAYS does.  And if Boston goes to the playoffs...they&#039;ll have another seemingly bye into the 2nd round.

The Tigers are pretty rough with Verlander, etc a bunch of times too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Red Sox have been hammering Doc for a while now&#8230;and Doc doesn&#8217;t really look as sharp as he did earlier in the season.  The Rays just banged him around the other day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to face the Rangers in the first round of the playoffs.  They&#8217;re basically a similar style club to ours&#8230;but worse on all accounts.  They have decent enough pitching to go along with their offense which is 2nd best in the league.  We have VERY GOOD pitching to go along with our BEST offense in baseball.  And both our pitching and offense is head and shoulders above theirs.</p>
<p>The Red Sox with Beckett and Lester worry me a little bit.  As do the Angels.  The Angels have literally one starting position player batting under .300 and it&#8217;s the catcher&#8230;and he&#8217;s batting over .290.  Their pitching is FAR worse than it used to be&#8230;but for whatever reason&#8230;we still can&#8217;t beat them and Boston ALWAYS does.  And if Boston goes to the playoffs&#8230;they&#8217;ll have another seemingly bye into the 2nd round.</p>
<p>The Tigers are pretty rough with Verlander, etc a bunch of times too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Fruitless Hypotheticals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“yes its taught in Little League but so is bunting.”&lt;/i&gt;


um...what?

sincerely,
  

NICK SWISHER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“yes its taught in Little League but so is bunting.”</i></p>
<p>um&#8230;what?</p>
<p>sincerely,</p>
<p>NICK SWISHER</p>
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