Comments on: 2009 Draft: Lane Meyer’s Draft Grades

By: Gurris

Gurris — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:22:43 +0000

I think you are all confused. You should judge Joba’s performance on what he has done over the past 5 minutes. In fact, he has not pitched at all in that time, which makes him utterly useless. Last year or even last week is soooo last year/last week.

By: YankeeGrunt

YankeeGrunt — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:07:30 +0000

Joba’s had (brief) stretches of dominance this year and stretches of suckitude, and a whole lot of mediocre. He needs to work on economy of pitches, he needs to reach back and hurl at times, but so too does the team need to stop changing the “rules” on him. This constant adjustment of his boundaries, his innings, his rest, etc etc is a good way to mess with a young pitcher’s head. Next year, with a virtually unlimited innings cap, it should be almost completely on Joba’s shoulders. But New York fans need to stop being idiots about a young pitcher’s growing pains. If Cash had listened to the New York fans regarding Phil Hughes we would have given up on the kid long ago.

By: YankeeGrunt

YankeeGrunt — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:42:05 +0000

No team is going to sign all of its DESes or HS guys. To me Lyons, Thompson and Meade were the only ones I regret, but we still inked a good percentage of our signability guys. Heathcott and Murphy are solid picks, though they used leverage to get overslot money when they were more or less slot picks. Cotham, Warren and Stoneburner are all solid prospects with legit shots at being pro pitchers, and we landed a few solid relief prospects in Brooks and Black. We had a few short-season bright spots, especially Mack and Medchill, and we have a few boom or bust late rounders like Golsan and Checo. All things considered I really liked this draft. B+ seemed fair in light of the picks we had and the prospects we managed to land.

By: Goldmember

Goldmember — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:39:07 +0000

Yeah, but the chances of the Yankees being able to sign these guys a year later or 3 years later also diminishes.

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:56:01 +0000

Say hello to your mother for me.

By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:37:48 +0000

WHY WON’T GIRARDI AND CASHMAN JUST PUNCH THAT UNGRATEFUL LITTLE BABY IN THE MOUTH TO MOTIVATE HIM LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO WITH MY BOILING RAGE OF SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!!!

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:29:31 +0000

Yes, that. However to say Robertson is more successful than Joba completely ignores Joba’s performance in 2007 and 2008 where he was much more dominant than Robertson out of the pen and was extremely effecitive in the rotation as well.

Joba’s simply run into a rough spot in his career, but so far he has unquestionably had more success than Robertson who now is no more than the 4th best reliever in our bullpen. Joba has been our #3-4 starter pretty much all year.

By: The Three Amigos

The Three Amigos — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:25:28 +0000

BOOYA.

By: Matt ACTY/BBD

Matt ACTY/BBD — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:18:01 +0000

Oh, and there’s several perfectly valid reasons to explain Joba’s scuffles. It’s not like the guy was good and then just started inexplicably sucking on purpose.

Psh, yeah right. The only reason he’s sucking is because they keep babying him and keep guaranteeing him things.

By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:14:58 +0000

Exactly.

At his best, DRob has been lights-out for an inning or two. At his best, Joba’s been lights-out for an entire game. Joba’s had more scuffles than DRob has, and they’re more recent in the memory, but those recent scuffles shouldn’t outweigh the fact that he’s still been better at his peak than DRob has.

Oh, and there’s several perfectly valid reasons to explain Joba’s scuffles. It’s not like the guy was good and then just started inexplicably sucking on purpose.