Comments on: Despite best efforts, Yanks youngsters still have arm troubles

By: Lanny

Lanny — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:23:14 +0000

This problem is a fact of life in the game. Every team has it. Young pitchers get hurt. Throwing a baseball is a violent action that isnt natural.

By: darthdavid

darthdavid — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:09:41 +0000

Word I already made my point about how pressure should affect the inturpitation of innings @ lower levels of play.

And You didn’t really come @ me with facts before when you simply stated he also pitched in winterball…

BUT BACK TO THE MATTER @ HAND.

You also have yet to respond to the comments i made earlier about joba chamberlain.

You have paraded around here the last couple of weeks acting like the yankees are being liberal with joba when they are being more oldschool/moderate.

Also if I could make a point about Phil Hughes.

Hughes made a large innings jump in 06 when he went from 85 IP to 146 IP a 61 IP increase.

While I am unaware and unable to find info on when the rule or disovery was made.

Shouldn’t the yankees be looking back @ how hughes responded in 07??

reguardless of if the rules where publicly known?? exp in light of couldbe recent discoveries?

By: cult of basebaal

cult of basebaal — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:31:00 +0000

and the entire US little league enterprise has taught every kid how to play like Nick Swisher,

Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll still be around to remind them to stay off the lawn …

By: Joseph Pawlikowski

Joseph Pawlikowski — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:03:58 +0000

Great way to back up your point. Glad you brought real data to the table instead of a bunch of pointless question marks and a throwaway line.

By: darthdavid

darthdavid — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:54:01 +0000

college really??????? shit is clown shoes….

By: Joseph Pawlikowski

Joseph Pawlikowski — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:52:50 +0000

Ed explains below.

By: darthdavid

darthdavid — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:49:20 +0000

winterball?? reallyfam, thats all you got for me???

do we have a figure to work with??

did he pitch in winterball/fallball between 06-07

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:48:23 +0000

117 IP his sophmore year of college (2005)
101 IP his junior year + 2.2 IP in Staten Island + 30.1 IP in winter ball = 134 IP in 2006

Makes his 2007 total basically dead on target.

By: darthdavid

darthdavid — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:45:25 +0000

This is the exact reason the Yankees have acted so strangely, by traditional standards, with Joba Chamberlain this season, and why they will likely act similarly with Phil Hughes next year.

????

They are not exactly acting like leftist crazed liberals. They are still pushing Joba over the 30+ IP limit.

And I can understand not living by the verducci rule but this isn’t a kid who has always been healthy and has been running through innings in the majors.

In fact he has been struggling all year which leads to a higher stress level so these innings are harder than his past efforts.

I think the team needs to stop half stepping with joba see if one inning stints can help him regain that ++ velocity, +control, w/ a + secondary pitch. IF NOT simply SHUT HIM DOWN and stretch out hughes.

By: Joseph Pawlikowski

Joseph Pawlikowski — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:41:26 +0000

He had winter ball innings to increase that 117 total.