Game 134: At least he’ll get run support
ByInstead of Sergio Mitre, who took a grounder off the forearm in his start last week, Chad Gaudin will take the hill for the Yanks tonight as they open a four-game set in Toronto. He’s been up and down in his stint with the Yanks to this point, alternating scoreless appearances with multi-run ones. The bad news: he allowed no runs in relief of Mitre last time out. The good news: he also allowed no runs in his only start for the Yanks this season.
The further good news is that the Yanks will trot out their A lineup in back of Gaudin. So even if Gaudin gives up four or five runs, the Yanks will still have a fighting chance. With that lineup, they’re never really out of a game. Obviously, the hope is that Gaudin can go five or six solid against a Blue Jays team that has been all downhill since May.
The Jays will send out Ricky Romero, who is having himself a fine rookie campaign, though he’s slowed a bit since the All-Star Break. In that span he’s thrown 49.2 innings, averaging about five and a half innings per start (though what the hell is a half inning?). His 5.62 ERA doesn’t look pretty, and a lot of it has to do with the Red Sox. He’s faced them three times in the past month and a half, and hasn’t fared particularly well in any of them. His best effort was a 5.1-inning, three-run affair. Romero threw 116 pitches that game.
This will be Romero’s third appearance against the Yankees. He’s allowed three runs in each prior start, going 6.1 and 6 innings. The Yanks will look for a little more than that tonight with Gaudin on the mound.
The Yanks recalled Jon Alabaladejo today, further lengthening the bullpen. Apparently he looks pretty banged up after missing a throw from Edwar Ramirez, taking it right off the noggin.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Melky Cabrera, CF
And on the mound, number forty-one, Chad Gaudin.



Lets take that magic number down to Jimmy Key tonight.
Almost at Paul O’Neill sweeeet
“A LITTLE BIT LUCKY: The Yankees have a run differential of +141 (now the best in the majors, by the way). Based on the Pythagorean winning percentage determined by Bill James, the Yankees should have 79 wins.”
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....blue-jays/
If you do it once in a while, it’s “lucky”. But teams that consistently over perform their Pythag are usually credited with having very good managers.
Mike Scioscia’s Angels have been beating the living shit out of pythag for as long as I can remember, at least the past 5 years. So if this trend continues, give credit to Girardi.
Just looked it up, the Angels have beat their pythag every year since 2003. 04 and 05 were slight, and he’s been blowing it away since then.
They were 12 over last year, I believe.
That’s not really true about the Angels though. Last year, they were +12, but other than that they haven’t been astoundingly good. In fact, the Yankees have been better than the Angels.
Difference to Pythag record from 2001 – 2009:
Angels -2, -2, -3, +1, +2, +5, +4, +12, +4
Yankees +6, +4, +5, +12, +5, +2, -3, +2, +6
Right, I clarified that in the post above yours.
I saw that after I posted mine. I wonder what the normal variation is, since +/-5 games doesn’t seem like a big difference to me.
If a manager is good, then why wouldn’t that lead to more runs being scored/prevented, thus improving the expected record?
I think anything beyond 7 would shout alarm bells and you’d have to look at stuff like run distribution to see what’s going on.
Well, if you look at the years listed, there’s two standout years. The 2004 Yankees and the 2008 Angels.
If you look at those seasons, you’ll notice that they both feature the career highs for games and saves for Mariano and K-Rod.
My guess is that those seasons featured an abnormally high number of close games. Those teams had top closers having amazing seasons. Combine the two factors and I could very easily see how a team would win a lot more close games than you would expect.
I think +5 is pretty significant, but as you said we’d have to see what normal variations are to comapre.
I think a good manager has the biggest impact with managing the bullpen, which is one of Girardi’s strengths. That’s where they make the most decisions on a good team. The rest of it (lineup/closer) is pretty automatic.
My thinking that +5 is not significant is based mostly on the Angels/Yankees that I showed above. Of the 18 years listed, 7 of them show a deviation of 5 or greater. Of course, that could just be something specific to these two teams.
Luckily it was only Edwar that hit Albie or he might have been seriously hurt.
I’m amazed that Edwar hit him.
Must have been aiming somewhere else.
IETC
Do you honestly believe this? I haven’t seen him yet, but I find it hard to believe a major league baseball player missed the ball and it hit his face.
Sounds like Varitek, if he caught Wakefield.
It does kinda sound like some sort of domestic abuse excuse.
What probably happened is a bunch of guys paired up and played catch in a line. Someone made a bad throw and hit the guy next to the guy he was throwing to.
what the hell? “The bad news: he allowed no runs in relief of Mitre last time out”. How does that make any sense at all?
“alternating scoreless appearances with multi-run ones”
I mean, it’s right there.
ah, i see
i just kinda skipped over that sentence for some reason
Joe said that Gaudin has alternated good and bad performances. Last game was good (relief of Mitre), so assuming he continues his streaks, this game will be a bad one.
Who wants Brandon Marshall for $1?
http://denver.craigslist.org/spo/1347691418.html
J.P. looks like he’s seriously considering jumping from that ledge.
Throwing your A lineup at this guy.
Lol, Jeet. Donut fail.
Thank Mo the stupid faux-umps aren’t there.
yea, they got annoying fast
For a leadoff guy, Jeter sure swings at the first pitch remarkably often, at least anecdotally. That said, he’s hit so well doing that, so it’s not necessarily a bad thing.
Cmon A-rod…no DP
OK, give me your 5 all time favorite Yankee pitchers.
Here’s mine, in order:
1-Jimmy Key
2-Orlando Hernandez
3-Mo
4-Ron Guidry
5-Phil Hughes
I’m developing a man crush on Mr Hughes that I actually find to be a bit troubling.
Mine are:
1. Pettitte
2. Rivera
3. Hughes
4. Cone
5. Farnsworth – Don’t ask.
Of course Melvin is on his own list.
Mo
Joba
Orlando Hernandez
Cone
Melido Perez (reminds me of my youth)
Wow. That flashback clip of A-Rod with long pants looked weird.
Yea, and his stance is a bit different
It’s the steroids.
A-Rod = 3,000+ H and 700+ HR.
Unfortunately, it’s gonna be:
A-Rod = 3,000+* H and 700+* HR.
Nah, it’s going to be *1995-2005 for all of Baseball. Can’t single out one guy and be fair about it. If we’ve learned anything over the past few years, the playing field was more level then most of us realized at the time.
The * needs to start mid-season 1993. That’s when the homer barrage started.
Of course, the fact that it can be traced to such a specific date shows that there is something else going on – unless all of the players decided in 1993 to go on the juice.
It’s the ball.
Well, Jose Canseco got traded to Texas mid-92. Rafael Palmeiro went to Baltimore after 93.
Canseco has been bragging for years about being the Johnny Appleseed of steroids, and Palmeiro had at least some involvement. I’d be curious to see a path of early known steroid users…
I’m starting to pity opposing pitchers.
not me…NO MERCY!
bwahaha
Alex too afraid to get an RBI so he gives it to Matsui.
Love it. Thanks Travis.
Travis Snider takes pride in his defense.
Snider is more of a DH then an OF.
Matsui!!!!
Gardy scores on that error…twice
Sucks to be you, Snider.
He’s no Duke Snider!
Ironic how they made a point of saying how Toronto was one of the best defensive teams in the league.
I love how they talked in the pregame about Toronto having the 3rd fewest errors. Lind is more of a DH then OF and so is Snider.
Seriously, every decent pitcher should want to sign with the Yanks
Seriously, every
decent pitcherplayer in the league should want to sign with the YanksYeah, Salty I know how ya feel. I still miss Ted Lily- the embodiment of decent pitching (a middle-to back end of the rotation pitcher you can trust).
Damnit…Robbie has mercy but I’ll 4 runs in the 1st everytime
I have Romero on my fantasy team…FML
What are you doing starting anybody, ever, against this lineup?
I would love to crush Romero & Halliday after they failed terribly against the Bosux. After that 1st inning, we are on our way!! Let’s go Yanks
What do you do with Chad next year?
Keep him? Isn’t he still under team control?
I think so. He has ML service: 4.004 accroding to Cots.
Trade him to the Dolphins and sign Smoltz.
Have him compete to make our 6th or 7th pitcher out of camp and be patient enough to wait for an opportunity. And don’t pout like Tomko did.
Yea, I wouldn’t mind an Adam Lind on my team.
Not as entertaining as Adam West, though
Oh,oh!! Here comes Lyle Overbay. He got a few big hits against us last time. Hope Chad can handle the toronto 1st baseman.
Buchholz already getting whacked around a wee bit in the bottom of the first. Hopefully it’s Bad Buchholz tonight.
Hooray!! We got Overbay out & Chad posted a big zero after recieving a 4-0 lead!! Perhaps, a 7 game winning streak is in order?
Damn swish was Owned that AB
Wow, Tony Fernandez wore #6? Now, it makes sense why Torre gave Jeter the starting job so quickly!!
Torre: Silly, Fernandez! I’m the only #6 around here. Now and forever!!
Roy White: Um, Hello? Why does everyone always forget about me!
Michael Kay again with his obsession with starting pitchers watching the game from the dugout. BTW, I dunno why he keeps saying Moose never watched from the dugout because I always remembered seeing him in the dugout when he wasnt pitching.
Ugly swing, Cap’n.
Yeah, those 20 wins meant nothing last year to the team because you didn’t sit on the bench to watch Darrell Rasner. Shame on you Moose.
/Kay’d
great game so far
LETS GO YANKEES!
Great fuckin’ play on both ends.
Oh, Coney, keep talking metrics to me.
Range to his left!
Jeter = probably the most ineffective defensive player in the major leagues, at any position.
/James’d
In defense of James, Jeter has managed to improve his defense at age 35. Not exactly the typical outcome.
Well, considering that before 2008 he was an awful fielder at arguably the most important defensive position, that statement isn’t all that inaccurate.
Damn that throw from alex whipped tex’s hand, the rod put a lil stank on it.
OT: How about Marlon Byrd for the free agent signing this offseason?
Seems to me like he can’t play away from Texas.
Where would he play anyway?
Great start from the boys tonight.
(Should I believe the scoreboard when it tells me Pedro and Lincecum are dueling it out?)
Yes – Almost identical pitching lines
Tim 5.0ip 2h 1r 1er 1bb 8so 1hr
Pedro
Pedro 5.0ip 3h 1r 1er 0bb 8so 1hr
That change isn’t very sportsmanlike.
Oh, lord, that was cinematically great when the YES camera panned over Ace and Hughes chillin’ and then…BEAT UP ALBIE!
Dammmn, Pedro is bringing it tonight.
It shouldn’t count because he’s pitching against SF.
I thought it was only against the Mets or Pirates that it didn’t count.
hey YES get your shit together there’s 2 outs.
well now there’s three but you get the point, YES you’re on notice.
You’re on my list, YES. You better watch out.
Or else what, pat? You’ll go where for Yankee coverage? NESPN? CBS radio? the ruins of what used to be MSG network?!
You have no choice. BWHAHAHA!!!
/ YES executives’d
Actually I came up with the idea for YES back in ’87. Wrote it on the back of a cocktail napkin. I’m suing for eleventy billion dollars and ownership. There’s a pending lawsuit/RAB article by legal extrodinaire/talking head Ben Kabak.
Good thing you got Kabak. In big spots, unlike A-Rod, he’s calm, cool, and collected.
Good thing you got Kabak. In big spots, unlike A-Rod, he’s calm, cool, and
collectedcollective.Wag of pat’s finger.
“finger”
Boo your change! Boo it to hell.
Romero’s changeup is KILLING right now.
My god. Did any of you see Albaladejo’s eye? That thing was nasty.
Did David Cone just say Toronto may have rushed Romero to the big leagues a little faster than they would have liked?
I’m surprised Romero didn’ throw a 3-1 changeup.
Slow thread tonight.
Melky!
Matsui looked awful when he was running, after home plate.
True. Most normal human are out getting toasted on a thursday night.NOT ME I’m busy recruiting 2018′s freshman class for NCAA Football 09.
Ietc very much.
I’m busy not being at college anymore.
It’s your fault.
I know, I should of showed up earlier. More people would of stayed.
Because I haven’t commented.
I prefer slow threads.
Good Melky’s here!
Melkman’s been hot lately.
Melky knows Gritner is almost back
Good Melky!
Melkman senses a disturbance in the grit. Must adjust play accordingly
Now he’s even showing Girardi how he is a threat to steal.
Cutthroat baseball we’re seeing tonight.
3-3 in the Sox/Tampa Bay game.
Romero’s change is not impressed with Derek Jeter.
Romero has nasty stuff but I think hitters will start picking up that change as they see him more…
Mets fans watching football.
/Rob Schneider near the water cooler’d
Speaking of the Mets. Wright’s helmet is hilariously large.
http://blog.nj.com/mets_main/2.....helmet.jpg
Interesting thing is, if I remember correctly from the article the creators of the helmet or whatever said that they would never approve a helmet with 1 ear flap.
Let’s see. 30 ML teams, eleventy million MiL teams.
You want one ear flap? Sure.
We can put a man on a moon but that is our solution to a fastball…
The moon landing was fake.
http://www.theonion.com/conten.....inces_neil
http://store.theonion.com/holy.....p-332.html
It looks like the helmets from Starship Troopers.
If it wasn’t David Wright I’d add that they got him a special bus.
Bad Chad Gaudin.
man can ya throw strikes?
Scutaro first pitch popup?
DAMN, close.
Where did that 0-1 pitch miss?!
No bigs.
Horrible throw by Melky.
Another offline throw by the Melkman. They’ve become his specialty.
Well, I’ll trade the run for an out while up and the bases loaded.
Man, you would think a guy like Aaron Hill would get on base a bit more.
Gaudin is painful to watch.
Damn, quick hook.
Don’t they need Aceves to back Joba tomorrow?
Maybe they just let Dunn and Albie throw 2 innings each.
We have a lot of arms in the bullpen now, I think there are 11 now, so there is really no danger at all of running out of bullpen arms
There’s like, 15 guys out there. They can match up LHB-RHB and be fine tomorrow.
I don’t know, I thought it came at the right time. And this is coming from a guy who thinks Girardi is always a batter too late with his pitching changes.
Already? What was gaudin’s pitch count?
80
Geez, oh well, Ace with the K and disgusted look on his face.
80, he’s only allowed to go about 90 anyways.
Pitch count? Get that scrub outta there.
Vintage Chad Gaudin
Did I really just see Ace reach back and throw a 94 mph fastball? Dang.
Yeah, he’ll top out around there. According to the YES gun, at least. Remember him hitting 94 a few times when he was called up last year as well.
Come on, 3-4-5. Punish him.
Per Rotoworld:
Jonathan Papelbon revealed to the media Thursday that he has been fined seven times this season for violating MLB’s new “pace of game” rules.The most recent fine arrived in his mailbox Thursday and is going to cost him $5,000. “I’m taking too long getting to the rubber,” said Papelbon. “You’re allowed [two minutes and 25 seconds], and I’m taking too long.” It’s probably about time to start thinking about changing your routine, Paps.
He takes longer than 2:25, ridiculous.
The seventh fine is 5,000? That’s awful low, what was the first fine, $500?
Maybe they should start suspending players after the 5th time. Breaking the same rule 7 times is just stupid.
Tell the MLBPA. They have as much to say about these rules as the owners do, that why it took 10 years and 2 Congressional hearings to get any meaningful steroid testing in place.
Make it 8-3, Alex.
Arod is a singles hitter silly
His power will come back for October.
Stats … they’ve been padded.
clutch!
Nice and easy up the middle. Good job Alex!
It’s so strange seeing Al this locked in yet not hitting em out.
Clutch-Rod
Damn, nice play by Overbay.
Time for Posada’s 20th?
Earl Weavers best play in baseball (3 run home run)
Eh RBI single is ok too.
We’re all really just biding time until the playoffs come around, aren’t we? You’re watching Posada’s HR total, and I’m looking at the Run Differential each night. We need some meaningful games.
haha, I was thinking that as we scored 4 in the first .. like come on, we gotta sit through like 24 more games?
Especially in this mausoleum of a ballpark.
Yeah, I think that plays a big part. there’s like 700 people there, the place is dead silent (like a mausoleum?)
no ? duh.
That, and the fans with candles around their yearbooks really completes the feeling.
I never thought I’d get tired of Yankee games but today tried my patience. I found myself flipping back and forth from YES to Sein in the first few innings.
Good take on 2-2, Jorge.
Like Joba and the slider, he’s a little too enamored with the change.
Hip, hip! HALL OF FAMER!
Who else agrees that if Mastui doesn’t hit either a home run or a deep fly ball in the gap, he should just be allowed to walk right into the dugout?
Dude looks painful rounding the bases.
Odds of a Mike Dunn appearance tonight? I’m excited to see the kid pitch.
Me too. Lets hope he’s coming in soon.
Pablo Sandoval is the man.
Brad Lidge begs to differ.
What did he do?
Struck out, but he’s still just a chill lookin’ dude.
Heck of a hitter too.
Ha word. Yeah, he is the man.
Yeah, I love natural hitters like him. Bad body, swings at everything and is still produces.
Not a horrible fielder either.
Poor Alex with the popups.
A-Rod “copped” a feel.
Oh yeah, I went there.
Damn, that was good.
Oh. Al knew what he was doing.
Jeter gets that ball AND the grope.
I don’t know how athletes can deal with some shit. That little punk bitch kid yelled F*GGOT right in Arod’s face when he was by the seats. I guess a couple hundred mil in the bank will make u not sweat the small stuff.
Imagine if A-Rod just decked him.
You never know what A-Rod’s gonna do when he’s in Canada.
I’m sure Kate Hudson helps, too.
The worst was Barry Bonds… They deal with some shit. Luckily they don’t care. I’ll never forget the time the dude took a swipe at Sheff in the right field bleachers in Boston. I totally wanted Gary to lay him out.
Didn’t some Angels fan smack the Giants RF with a Thunder Stick during the WS in ’02.
I KNOW RIGHT?? Yet sox fans think we’re low class. Never seen a yankee fan try and punch a sox player.
The worst was Jackie Robinson.
Amen.
Nothing close since.
Ace looks bored at the mound.
Ace looks pretty sharp on the mound. That kind of bored I like.
Looks like whatever was ailing him is over and done with – the breaking stuff is sharp again.
Methinks he’s better as a long guy used every few days
Just in case anyone else is bored, here’s something to chew on.
I heard (Mets) Wayne Hagen say last night that “Joe Girardi was selected first by the Rockies in the 1992 expansion draft”. I didn’t remember one way or the other, but it turns out he was selected 19th overall. Maybe I misheard him, but who cares.
Anyway, check out some of the players selected back then. Most of their careers are over now, I think Weathers and Hoffman are the only two still playing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.....sion_draft
Can you imagine if the Yanks held on to Carl Everett? Great hitter, but way, way too angry to last here.
Ya, that whole “dinosaurs” thing just pisses him off.
Here’s the more notable
-Chris Carpenter (also active)
-Trevor Hoffman
-David Weathers
-Carl Everett
-Joe Girardi
-Jeff Conine
I don’t think that Ramon Martinez was Pedro’s brother, who was a good player. There’s about 7 of them on BRef, must be one of the others.
Yes, there is a big difference, Michael. I’m sure he’s just making conversation or whatever but how does he not get that the AL is much harder than the NL?
It’s just crazy that a pitcher isn’t the same type of hitter as a jim thome.
Baffling.
Someone injured on the Giants. Couldn’t catch who it was.
Melky has been raking recently
He was safe, BY A LOT
Isn’t it kinda bush league to bunt when you’re up by 4?
No.
It wasnt a sac bunt
Nah, not in the AL. Shit can change quickly. Again, I think the boys are trying to get some live bunting practice.
Meh, I guess you guys are right. But fuck bunting.
Eh, it’s the 6th inning, 4 run lead with 4 turns to bat for the other team isn’t that huge, you try for every run.
I can’t believe the ump called that an out. Ridiculous.
Well now that bunt just looks even worse.
Damn. Rays are going to have to hope Longoria hits another huge home run to take the lead.
Beat the Sox, damn.
sophomore slump
Not only does Aceves pitch effectively, but when Girardi takes the ball from him he says “That’s it?”
i bet jeter talks to francesa and he tell him about the glory of small ball
“I bet Canseco talks to Palmiero about the glory of small balls”
/Pat’d
hahaha, I’m not that’s clever my boy.
But it’s foul…and not a home run
Michael Kay’s ball reading skills are terrible.
let;s see if toronto bunts
Playing for one run when you’re down by anything more than 0 runs is just a bad move.
I love Aceves’ gaudy W-L totals.
Most wins for a reliever in the AL.
Usually, that’s a bad thing. It means you’re blowing leads and then benefiting from your team rallying. But with the way the Yanks have used Joba, Mitre and others, its a sign of how well he’s pitched.
Right, that is why someone like Howell can be 7-4. He has 8 blown saves. Aceves has only 1 blown save.
These text polls get worse each night.
Does Gardner get to that one?
Eh, that replay showed Melky wasn’t as close to it as I thought; nevermind!
Ace looking like crap now…Comon man, get outs.
Are those All Sport bottles I keep seeing? I had no clue they still made that stuff.
I want to see Alby pitch with his black eye tonight.
D-bag of the night.
great baseball fans, these canadians.
That play made me die a little bit inside.
Gotta make that play, Alex.
i would use phil hughes here but i’m not the manager, am i?
albaladejo was my next choice
Hughes is closing. Why would he go in this spot?
Alex needs to make that play.
are the Mounties actually there, or is Suzyn Waldman just trying to be funny?
Any reason to leave Aceves in? Nope.
GOTTA GET HIM A WIN, MIKE!
I agree. He’s clearly lost it. Time to bring somebody else.
Bet this is the last batter for him one way or another. Lind and Overbay coming up, so Joe will go to one of his lefties after this
a lot of guys are probably going to be used tomorrow, has to factor into it I would think
He’ll be fine, now that he has the win.
YES! Ole black eye warming up!
DAMN!
/Typical tv show/movie reaction to a giant pimple or black eye
Lets go Aceves.
Maybe it’s time to warm somebody up in the ‘pen.
Yo who snuffed Alby?
LOL @ that guy. He throws the ball back AND hit his friend in the nose to give him a bloody nose. That’s what you get.
I don’t understand why anyone would ever throw a ball back.
And WTF is Blue Ridge Communications?
I believe it is a full service communications provider.
posada, I love your offense.
SO MANY FUCKING PITCHERS PUT SOMEBODY ELSE IN.
ok nevermind inning over
OK Offense. Time to put this one away. Let’s score 5 runs here and finish them off.
More runs please.
Well, since you asked nicely…
Melancon can’t buy an inning.
You don’t need batting gloves when you piss on your hands between innings.
holy shit at pedro martinez tonight.
Damn, out pitched Lincecum.
Crap lineup, but 7 IP, 1 R (HR) with 9 SO. That’s some pitching, I don’t care who you’re facing.
BTW-No BBs
That is most impressive.
NL: halfway home for old pitchers.
Ha. I love any discussion of Posada’s tough, manly (pee) hands!
Damn, Po was huffin and puffin.
D-Rob time.
Cano, looked real bad tonight.
Still not nearly as bad as Gamer looks.
Or nearly as good as Robertson looks.
THE MOVIE 300 DID NOT TAKE PLACE 300 YEARS AGO
What kind of year you guys think Peavy is gonna put together making his home starts at the cel next year….and in the men’s league?
4 + era
13-10 4.75 ERA
I think the AL will be much better at waiting him out, and he won’t break 185 IP, either. He’ll have a lot more 4-5 Inning outings in the AL than he did in Petco. The Yanks did exactly that to him when they faced him last year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=280618110
Can he get healthy first?
Just noticed the magic number tonight. Love it, Donnie Baseball!!!!
YES gun can’t clock Robertson.
You thought wrong David Cone!!!!
You were thinkin’ you wouldn’t have thought that.
/Squints’d
Peace, Lyle.
Smoak type bat!
I could really go for a Daniel Bard meltdown.
if the yankees want to move back the fences how exactly would that work?
the most realistic option includes a Delorian, weapons grade uranium, a flux capacitor and 1.21 jiggawatts.
Oh my god Michael Kay, that was not fucking deep.
Range.
Yeah, D-Robs fastball def plays up. Good late life on it.
That was the same pitch!
Chicks dig the curveball.
Robertson is the man.
just stuffing his stats with Ks. despicable.
Robertson shows how a young pitcher earns a promotion to high leverage spots. Improved all year. Helps that he stopped walking a batter an inning.