Phil got lucky there. Could have been a disaster. If the Yankees are still tied after the bottom of the 8th – I want Hughes back out on the mound – not Rivera. But I know that won’t happen.
Well, part of why he’s paid is because of his good eye and plate discipline. Would you have preferred he unnecessarily expanded the strike zone and swung at bad pitches, either striking out or not hitting the ball hard? Alex’s walk helped the Yankees right there.
How do you figure he didn’t come through? He had zero pitches to hit in that at bat. Also, if you say he never comes through when it matters, I’m assuming you haven’t heard that 13 of Alex’s home runs have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead (incl. 2 walks offs).
ok, i don’t comment on this site very often, I love reading and tend to not have much to add. But seriously? He didn’t come through because he was pitched around? Give me a break. Did you want him to swing at something out of the zone and pop up? My gosh, man.
in some weird form of technicality, though, a.g. is right: if a player intends to get a hit and doesn’t, then he has failed at what he set out to do, whereas if he intends to make an out and does, he has succeeded. But i would take the walk 8 days a week.
On some level, all men want to be Aviator-wearing, boat-operating, sweater-wearing turd lickers. It’s like going to an Ivy League school without the cost or stressed out Chinese kids.
Trying to steal third with one out in a tie game with speediest player: good. Doing so with hot hitter at plate: less good.
Glad it worked, but if Gardner had been thrown out…brutal.
I have no categorical rule against small ball. But like all other decisions, it should be prudent.
1. No bunting unless there is a high premium on scoring precisely one run. This can only occur in the late innings (bottom of the eighth, ninth inning). Prefer that bunter is: 1. A good, experienced bunter. 2. Not particularly hot and/or bunting in front of a hot hitter. 3. Not the franchise’s all time leader in hits.
Otherwise, just don’t do it.
2. Stealing is OK if: a). Your name is Gardner or Guzman. b) If your name is Jeter, Cabrerara, Damon, or Rodriguez and you can get a great jump. c). If you are attempting to steal third with one out and you fit into category “a).” or “b).” d)The tying run is NOT at the plate late in the game.
Ump calls a bullshit slider a foot off the plate to matsui and doesnt call that 2-2 a strike to Figgins. Both Molina and Chone thought it was strike three. FUck the umpires.
Watching the Pats makes me understand why people got so sick of watching the Yankees win in the late 90′s / early 00′s. It just seems like everything aligns for them, no matter what. (Minus SB vs. Giants of course)
The Yankees might win, but if Mitre out-pitches Halladay, stay tuned to the end of the game when you’ll see a man running across the field yelling, “Salty is king, Salty is king.”
Two silver linings to this one: they beat the Angels in a game where the SP went 4 innings, and they don’t have to face the Angels until a hypothetical ALCS, unless something drastically changes.
There will be no Yanks-Angels ALDS unless something changes drastically (i.e. one of them blows their division and becomes the wild card team), which is what I was referring to.
Thanks A-rod for not reaching and making an out and instead walking and then scoring because of it. No thanks Jeter (or Girardi, whoever decided it) for making that extra out but thanks Tex for making up for it.
“Thanks A-rod for not reaching” “No thanks Jeter for making that extra out”. you are getting confused between reality and fantasy for the sake of trying to make a joke.
Much, much more importantly he got the win. Therefore, Hughes pitched well tonight. He rallied his team to score in the 8th, after blowing the save. That is one hell of a pitching performance.
That’s what pitching is all about! I’m really hoping for a well thought out (but totally unreasonable) explanation from alex gonzalez for my 1st post. He mentions the blown save, but since pitching is all about getting the win, Hughes, by his own words (a million times) pitched well.
Right now, I would say Beckett/Lester/Buccholz. I do think that now Beckett is recovered from whatever kind of flu bothered him for two weeks, he will get his curveball back. I think Lester might be the best pitcher on either team. Buccholz has the advantage of being fresh because he hasn’t thrown that many innings
Ah yes, the dreaded suckitis flu that was spreading throughout the Northeast. Plus Bucchholz is well rested. Rest= victory.
Q: When was the last time Pedro pitched the way he did last night? I honestly can’t remember.
A: I think it was probably in his second to last year in Boston, which would have been 2002. As you may know, last week was the 10th anniversary of the 17 strikeout game at Yankee Stadium in a September in which he struck out 70 in 41 innings.
Mr. Gammons, what is your favorite kind of pie?
Well, I’d have to say it’s strawberry rhubarb but it’s been quite some time since I’ve had it. In fact, the last time I remember having a fresh strawberry rhubarb pie was in 2004. As you know, Bob, 2004 was the year that the Red Sox came back from amazing odds to beat the Yankees in the ALCS and win their first WS in almost a century.
Beating the Angels doesn’t feel meaningless to me. Nothing to do with home field advantage – they just bug me, and I love to see Weaver and crew loose it in the 8th.
I totally agree. I was more pumped during this game than I have been in a while. I wanted to blow the Angels out but the way we won was intense enough. Dare I say, gritty…?
Hoping for some input. Has anyone sat in the bleachers at NYS? I’m going to my first game this year and I was wondering what it’s like out in RF. Thanks in advance.
i got melky, he’s due
I have a feeling either him or A-Rod for some strange reason…
*waits for Alex Gonzalez to tell me he’s not clutch ecause he can’t hit in the playoffs*
arod will not hit a walkoff this game, you can bet on that.
Well seeing as he won’t be up and seeing as he might score in the winning run he might just not. It has nothing to do with him being clutch.
he could have a chance to come up if it went to extra innings. not that it would make a difference though.
Nope. I don’t think this is going to extras now.
Are you saying Alex can’t hit in the clutch, and that he can’t hit a walk off HR?
Whatever you wish he were saying, it’s the opposite.
Good job by Phil to escape there.
Has Jeter had one this year?
No.
He’s been pie free and it’s unacceptable.
He’s definitely not clutch.
Phil got lucky there. Could have been a disaster. If the Yankees are still tied after the bottom of the 8th – I want Hughes back out on the mound – not Rivera. But I know that won’t happen.
I want the best reliever out there.
Why not Rivera?
If you say “He can’t pitch in non-save situations” . . .
Get it outta ur system now young man.
Meh, all things considered Hughes managed to limit the damage.
Tie game at home, lets win this baby.
I vote Matsui for the walk-off.
that is… if he gets another AB
I vote Matsui for the
walk-offtie-breaker!I vote Cone for the whack off.
has to be jeter. he will get the pie.
One Word: Swishalicious
Anyone know why the NFL refs are wearing orange stripes? I first saw it and thought there was a problem with my TV.
Throwback unis for the 40th anniversary
The refs used to wear orange?
Throwbacks.
something to do with the 50th anniversary of the AFL, since the Bills and Pats are 2 of the original teams of that league
Deposit one A-rod…or Tex
No walk off. A-Rod comes through here.
OR
Tex gets a walk off to complete the cycle.
I vote 1
I don’t think they’ll give Alex anything to hit.
Yeah, you’re probably right.
Mark hits the walk-off homer for the cycle.
Marky T a HR away from cycle!
Dude that ball had to be hit pretty hard to bounce off the top of the wall and land in the stands.
Weaver’s gonna throw him garbage so a releiver can warm up.
ATTN: alex gonzalez, you claim to hate Alex Rodriguez; are you rooting for him to fail here since you don’t like him?
Yes, he is, but it’s just because he actually hates the Yankees.
no. i never root against this team. ever. but he didn’t come through.
He didn’t make an out. He came through.
so he is paid to walk and not get the clutch hit?
You bait the hook beautifully, A.G., I must give you that.
Well, part of why he’s paid is because of his good eye and plate discipline. Would you have preferred he unnecessarily expanded the strike zone and swung at bad pitches, either striking out or not hitting the ball hard? Alex’s walk helped the Yankees right there.
Your thoughtful and rational comments only give him strength.
Oh don’t do that. If you shoot him, it’ll only make him mad.
/Wilder’d
He is paid to be a good ball player. Good ball players get walks. He would have K’ed if he swung and you would gone in a page long A-Rod hate rant.
Right, because they gave him lots o pitches to hit.
How do you figure he didn’t come through? He had zero pitches to hit in that at bat. Also, if you say he never comes through when it matters, I’m assuming you haven’t heard that 13 of Alex’s home runs have either tied the game or given the Yankees the lead (incl. 2 walks offs).
He’s watching the Red Sox any time A-Rod comes through.
Which pitch should Alex have swung at?
And if it were an actual intentional walk, would you feel the same way?
Yeah, that whole “getting on base” thing after “not getting anything to hit” just screams CHOKE ARTIST!
ok, i don’t comment on this site very often, I love reading and tend to not have much to add. But seriously? He didn’t come through because he was pitched around? Give me a break. Did you want him to swing at something out of the zone and pop up? My gosh, man.
Hahah, welcome. It’s sad that’s how people think.
meh, he’s not very smart
At this point, I assume he’s just a troll who has fun getting everyone riled up.
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Welcome – Great comment.
They will not be pitching to him, hoping he swings out of hte zone.
Well, yeah. Why let A-Rod beat them? Make Matsui or Posada do it.
Two guys who are both prone to the GIDP, unfortunately.
Pitching around A-Rod. C”mon Matsui.
a tex walk off completes the cycle, walk off and the cycle…
he really shouldn’t have swung at that 2-0 pitch. Hopefully Weaver makes a mistake here.
Has anyone ever had a walk-off homerun that completed the cycle? I’ve never seen that.
Paging Mr. Elias.
That’s nothing.
Roberto Clemente hit a walk-off, inside the park grand slam.
Jason Kubel, last year for the Twins. I think.
I remember that, and I’m pretty sure it was a grand slam. That might ahve been a first. Completing the cycle with a walk-off HR that was a grand slam.
Jim Rice did it twice in one day.
Hall of Famer Jim Rice did it twice in one day
attaboy walk there a-rod
A-rod = Unintentionally Intentionally Feared
No DP Matsui…come through
A-Rod failed by walking.
alex gonzalez’d
Anything but a DP. Anything..
I like this match-up for the Yankees.
Darren Oliver? Whats he like 40?
he turns 39 in october
I could hit him.
heh, thanks.
You see that game last night?
Total.
Domination.
Eww. I was talking about baseball.
No cycle
I dont care if the Yanks win but I hope Philty vultures a win…
GIRARDI YOU BASTARD.
Did Girardi just PR for Tex?
Look out, he’s managing.
Never a good sign.
I’m expecting Matsui to bunt any second here.
Angels Baseball!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH PWNEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
THAT WASN”T EVEN FUCKING CLOSE FUCK YOU
double steal
good call
That was in Nagasaki! C’mon, ump!
Angeling the Angels!
What I was gonna say
HOORAY BAD DEFENSE!
Small Ball!!!!
Girardi so predicted that…
GIRARDI YOU GENIUS.
Gardner!
Gardner was out by a mile if Figgins holds on.
They out-Angeled the Angels.
in the outfield…
+NINE THOUSAND
ROLES HAVE REVERSED BITCHESSSSSS
ANGELS BASEBALL
Wow, Gardner…holy balls that was awesome.
Grit Gutner is back bitches!
Luck is on the Yankees’ side tonight. Gardner was toast with a good throw AND the whole run-scoring-after-Melky’s running thing.
Roscoe Parrish fail.
It was Leodis McKelvin, but yeah, that was really stupid.
Sorry, McKelvin.
McKelvin makes me want to punch babies.
I was at the game on Saturday when Jorgie came in as a pinch hitter and struck out. My it was so painful. That whole game was painful.
He should have bunted.
alex gonzalez’d
actually i predicted the double steal. nice try though.
You predicted the double steal on Saturday when Jorgie went in to pinch hit? No, you didn’t
alex gonzalez reading comprehension=Fail
Napoli was Napping!
lazy Italian
Is Scocia drunk?
And putting in Napoli bites them in the ass! Love it!
Take that, Scioscia, you smug shmuck.
when gardner is in the game.
http://www.gritsfest.com/syste.....20copy.jpg
TCWA
tcwa?
That comment was awesome.
IETCVM
…and why would they want him and Gardner on the roster.
Jorge Posada didn’t get the job done there. He’s a failure.
/alex gonzalez’d
Posada is so bad they didn’t even give him anything to hit.
Cano!!!!!!
But Cano can’t hit with men on!
A single? YOU ARE SO LAZY CANO YOU FAILED!!!!!!!
CANO WITH RISP!
WOOOHOOO!!
Regression to the mean,. REGRESSION TO THE MEAN!!!!
Who the hell is that Freddy Guzman?
Lightning fast 5th OF. Pinch runner type.
Usain Bolt’s superior.
Dude is fast, no doubt.
Alex Gonzalez, see that. Walks are good!
No. Walks are failure. Bunts are good. In more simple terms, not making outs is failing, making outs is succeeding.
in some weird form of technicality, though, a.g. is right: if a player intends to get a hit and doesn’t, then he has failed at what he set out to do, whereas if he intends to make an out and does, he has succeeded. But i would take the walk 8 days a week.
Niiice yo.
Two runs is enough of a cushion for our good buddy Mariano, even against this horseshit team of slap hitters.
(I realized the contradiction in the previous sentence. Fight me.)
So what I use contradictions? Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
/Paddy Tanninger’d
Figures Cano would be leaning.
C’mon Bills, just need a FG!
What an idiot that Bills returner was running it out. The Pats run so good.
I hate this Izod ad, yet I’m fascinated by it.
On some level, all men want to be Aviator-wearing, boat-operating, sweater-wearing turd lickers. It’s like going to an Ivy League school without the cost or stressed out Chinese kids.
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Suppan and Dempster have combined for 15 innings and 1 run tonight. It would take them 5 starts combined to get to 15 innings in the AL.
True that.
Freddy Guzman once beat a cheetah by 50 yards in a 100 yard dash. The cheetah had a 50 yard head start.
Girardi called for that bunt.
Trying to steal third with one out in a tie game with speediest player: good. Doing so with hot hitter at plate: less good.
Glad it worked, but if Gardner had been thrown out…brutal.
I have no categorical rule against small ball. But like all other decisions, it should be prudent.
1. No bunting unless there is a high premium on scoring precisely one run. This can only occur in the late innings (bottom of the eighth, ninth inning). Prefer that bunter is: 1. A good, experienced bunter. 2. Not particularly hot and/or bunting in front of a hot hitter. 3. Not the franchise’s all time leader in hits.
Otherwise, just don’t do it.
2. Stealing is OK if: a). Your name is Gardner or Guzman. b) If your name is Jeter, Cabrerara, Damon, or Rodriguez and you can get a great jump. c). If you are attempting to steal third with one out and you fit into category “a).” or “b).” d)The tying run is NOT at the plate late in the game.
Otherwise, just don’t do it.
I like you, Guest.
1000 percent completely agree.
i like how everyone is joking about how i would have called for the bunt, but in fact suggested the double steal. im looking at you “Steve H”.
So…Steve H = Everyone? Either way, it was a joke I think at you wanting bunt earlier.
Stop looking. I don’t want any of your ridiculous baseball “knowledge” to rub off on me.
what does this even mean? i like that you could spit out some nonsensical babble considering you were wrong.
Please go back and actually read what I said, and what comment I replied to.
yeah still lame. as long as you think it was funny that is all that matters.
It was slightly funny. It certainly doesn’t compare to the (unintentional) comedy you provide here daily.
Though I did mock you, twice, for claiming that A-Rod, by walking, didn’t come through.
No one cares what you suggested, even the sun shines on a dogs ass occasionally.
thank you for your kind words. have a pleasant evening.
aight, one more out mo
Noooo Pats won.
Dude, I was Tivo’ing that. Geeuuggcchchhh.
I can’t believe Buffalo let that game go.
Brady 378 yards and 2 TD’s. And didn’t play that well. They stole that one.
I was so beyond psyched when his knee exploded. Worst dude.
He’s the man.
Damn, did you really just say that?
That…isn’t cool.
hahah molina
Where did that miss?
WTF, ump.
What the fuck is a strike to this god damn ump? Only right down the fucking middle?
Where was dat previous 2-2 pitch?
The umpire should have called the ball almost in the dirt a strike just to correct his error.
what a crock by the ref
Ump calls a bullshit slider a foot off the plate to matsui and doesnt call that 2-2 a strike to Figgins. Both Molina and Chone thought it was strike three. FUck the umpires.
FWIW, Gameday had Mo’s pitch a little bit outside.
This ump clearly doesn’t know the difference between ball and strike.
epic fail bills
Very epic fail.
Watching the Pats makes me understand why people got so sick of watching the Yankees win in the late 90′s / early 00′s. It just seems like everything aligns for them, no matter what. (Minus SB vs. Giants of course)
That, and Tom Brady is their quarterback.
WIN!
Magic Number = 12!
Molina needs to turn around and punch that guy in the dick.
IETCP.
“I enjoyed this cock punch”?
Right on the money!
I don’t think he ever touched it.
Hmmm, that didn’t look like a tip.
Magic Number = 12
Hey awesome, you used my picture!
Nice try umpire but not even you can stop Mo.
Yankees Win, Oh yeah.
hughes just straight up gangstered aceves and stole his win. Muahah
Twice in a row earlier in the year, Coke blew leads in back to back outings and got wins in both of them.
Hahah, that’s our boy. I think he’s also had two one pitch wins too.
I know D-Rob’s got at least one this year.
Two words:
Alan. Embree.
YANKEES WIN!
Against the best efforts of the home plate umpire.
So, A.G., can you tell me again how Rodriguez failed by taking a walk when he got 0 pitches to hit in the 8th?
not tonight. i must go.
Haha, oh okay. You realize he didn’t fail, right? Had he tried to get a hit in that at bat, he would’ve failed miserably.
Good game.
So I’m at the Stadium tomorrow and get to see Halladay, which is cool, but I also get to see Mitre, which is not.
Mitre will outduel Halladay…book it.
That’s cute. I’m calling you on this tomorrow, Salty.
just feelin crazy
i would bet a fuckload of money against that. mitre is mo awful
The Yankees might win, but if Mitre out-pitches Halladay, stay tuned to the end of the game when you’ll see a man running across the field yelling, “Salty is king, Salty is king.”
And we don’t have to hear about how we can’t beat this team. (At least until next week.) Nice win.
im happy that the yanks won of course but i think im more pissed that the pats were able to take that game.
Good game, guys! Hopefully Halladay oversleeps and misses the game tomorrow.
Great win. Yanks finally beat the Angels . . . and with Angels style small ball thrown into the offensive mix. Love it!
Yay Mo! Yay win!
Fuck the Angels.
Two silver linings to this one: they beat the Angels in a game where the SP went 4 innings, and they don’t have to face the Angels until a hypothetical ALCS, unless something drastically changes.
You mean they don’t have to face them in a short series, I assume? ‘Cuz the boys are headin’ out there next week.
There will be no Yanks-Angels ALDS unless something changes drastically (i.e. one of them blows their division and becomes the wild card team), which is what I was referring to.
good game tonight. suprising blown save by hughes but the offense makes up for it. i love when the offense is this good.
Thanks A-rod for not reaching and making an out and instead walking and then scoring because of it. No thanks Jeter (or Girardi, whoever decided it) for making that extra out but thanks Tex for making up for it.
“Thanks A-rod for not reaching” “No thanks Jeter for making that extra out”. you are getting confused between reality and fantasy for the sake of trying to make a joke.
Hehe, OK, whatever you say…
You said A-Rod didn’t come through by walking, didn’t you???
Except for A-Rod, of course. Because he suck and all.
Amirite, A.G.?
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Umm, who gives a shit about Hughes’ blown save???
Much, much more importantly he got the win. Therefore, Hughes pitched well tonight. He rallied his team to score in the 8th, after blowing the save. That is one hell of a pitching performance.
He went right into the dugout and said, “Joe, send Gritner in to pinch run. Trust me on this.”
And, lo, we won!
That’s what pitching is all about! I’m really hoping for a well thought out (but totally unreasonable) explanation from alex gonzalez for my 1st post. He mentions the blown save, but since pitching is all about getting the win, Hughes, by his own words (a million times) pitched well.
http://espn.go.com/boston/chat.....er-gammons
Check this out. the answers are pretty funny keeping in mind his ridiculous sox bias.
Well at least it was in “Boston chat” otherwise I’d be pissed.
Right now, I would say Beckett/Lester/Buccholz. I do think that now Beckett is recovered from whatever kind of flu bothered him for two weeks, he will get his curveball back. I think Lester might be the best pitcher on either team. Buccholz has the advantage of being fresh because he hasn’t thrown that many innings
Ah yes, the dreaded suckitis flu that was spreading throughout the Northeast. Plus Bucchholz is well rested. Rest= victory.
You gotta admit, blaming Beckett’s woes on some unnamed illness took grit.
hahaha this is true.
I’m still trying to figure out which 2 weeks he’s referring to.
Was it from August 28 through Sept 12 when his ERA was 5.09 or from August 7 though August 23 when his ERA was 5.60.
Or was it from August 7 through Sept 12 when his ERA has been 5.36.
I’ve been wondering if this new Boston-only portal means less Red Sox content on the main site. One can dream.
He predicted the Yankees to defeat the Cardinals in 7. Is Gammons rehabbing with Ian Kennedy?
/Too soon?
My vote: no, not too soon.
Nah, strokes aren’t funny ever.
Yeah, I spit on my computer when I read the “Theo=future commissioner” reply.
i chuckled at the one with bucholz having the best 4 pitch combo in baseball and being a 20 game winner in the very near future
He’s going to win every remaining Sox game.
yeah theres NO way that’s Gammons on the other side of the computer typing
Q: When was the last time Pedro pitched the way he did last night? I honestly can’t remember.
A: I think it was probably in his second to last year in Boston, which would have been 2002. As you may know, last week was the 10th anniversary of the 17 strikeout game at Yankee Stadium in a September in which he struck out 70 in 41 innings.
Mr. Gammons, what is your favorite kind of pie?
Well, I’d have to say it’s strawberry rhubarb but it’s been quite some time since I’ve had it. In fact, the last time I remember having a fresh strawberry rhubarb pie was in 2004. As you know, Bob, 2004 was the year that the Red Sox came back from amazing odds to beat the Yankees in the ALCS and win their first WS in almost a century.
3 mores weeks of meaningless games to go.
They ain’t meaningless until that # is ZERO, if you ask me.
it’s getting pretty boring these days. i can’t wait till october.
Beating the Angels doesn’t feel meaningless to me. Nothing to do with home field advantage – they just bug me, and I love to see Weaver and crew loose it in the 8th.
Totally agree!!
I totally agree. I was more pumped during this game than I have been in a while. I wanted to blow the Angels out but the way we won was intense enough. Dare I say, gritty…?
ballgame!
The only way that Wade Boggs picture gets cooler is if he is on a white horse and is waving a sword
SWEEP!!!!!!!!
Tomko is likely about to get a complete game shutout.
9 IP 5 Hits 3 Ks
Did someone tell him the A’s are in the NL?
Damon is so due for a HR
wow, i just realized how great of a year matt holliday has had. that guy’s gonna make some money
and then will be labeled a bust in May for not hitting .370 like he is now
Hoping for some input. Has anyone sat in the bleachers at NYS? I’m going to my first game this year and I was wondering what it’s like out in RF. Thanks in advance.
Yes, it’s a blast. Might not be the best place to take a small kid, but otherwise it’s great.
Thanks for your feedback, Mike.
What’s going on here?
Oakland is playing well and the referees are wearing orange stripes. They look like a piece of Fruit Stripe gum.
Is bizzaro land?