..I guess. I’d rather Jorgie stand up for himself. Obviously he can’t get hurt right now but I wasn’t too worried about that. It’s a baseball brawl, they happen often and rarely result in serious injuries. Jorgie is tough, he can handle himself, 37 yr old surgically repaired shoulder and all. Carlson turned to him and demonstratively yelled, F you, you mother Fer and some other words I couldn’t quite get a read on. At that point I don’t see Jorgie, or anyone else for that matter just walking away and taking a seat on the bench.
I love the ESPN headline about how impressive Dice-K was in his return. In 6 IP he gave up 3 BB and 9 fly balls. That’s generally not a recipe for success. His luck was good in 2008 and tonight, but those sort of peripherals won’t lead to sustained success.
His peripherals were slightly better in 2007, but his performance was basically in line with what was expected. It’s just 2008 where he should have sucked, but got lucky and was actually pretty good. This year he should suck and has.
I’ll say 3-5. I don’t know if the obvious crack on Carlson’s head would have any bearing, but it certainly doesn’t look good. But it was pointed out before that the appeals process might push the suspension into next year, assuming Jorge continues to appeal.
Good point. A long time ago, I remember a Yankee getting suspended for some reason and having it roll over into the next year, but I don’t remember who it was or why they were suspended.
so even if bob watson waits a week and a half to hand 6 games to jorge, he will miss the KC series and Tampa series. i doubt he takes more than 2 days though.
They’re usually quick handing out the suspensions (1-2 days). It’s the appeals that take forever.
Even the worst case in you scenario (10 days for decision + 6 game suspension) would end in the regular season. The Yankees have 3 regular season games in October before the playoffs start.
The reason many appeals take so long is because they generally wait for a guy’s team to come to New York (unless they are not scheduled to) for the hearing. That really shouldn’t be an issue with a Yankee. He’ll have a suspension within a day or two, appeal fairly quickly and the whole mess will be over and done with before the playoffs.
” Sure you might notice that teams all over the major league landscape are either curtailing or completely shutting down young pitchers because their innings have swelled too high. But, again, those are facts. And those are other teams. These are the Yankees and they are ruining Chamberlain. Right?
They’re ruining him because he should be a reliever pitching less or a starter pitching more. Can’t the Yankees see this? They are pitching him too much, except for when they are pitching him too little. Why can’t the Yankees figure out how to use him just like you want him to be used, throwing seven innings as a starter on Monday and setting up Mariano Rivera on Tuesday? “
Just saw a video of Girardi blatantly getting sucker punched while trying to break up the fight by John Macdonald, what a classy player.. Whole thing could of been avoided, I would of been all for it had the Yankees came up on top, but it wasn’t in the cards… I’d like to see us come back strong tomorrow with an offensive uproar, while hopefully Gaudin has a good outing.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-582649
..I guess. I’d rather Jorgie stand up for himself. Obviously he can’t get hurt right now but I wasn’t too worried about that. It’s a baseball brawl, they happen often and rarely result in serious injuries. Jorgie is tough, he can handle himself, 37 yr old surgically repaired shoulder and all. Carlson turned to him and demonstratively yelled, F you, you mother Fer and some other words I couldn’t quite get a read on. At that point I don’t see Jorgie, or anyone else for that matter just walking away and taking a seat on the bench.
I see what you’re saying. To me, it was just an example of “nothing good can come of this,” which is why I am critical of the decision.
Yeah you’re right, it’s just at that point it’s tough to let it go.
One thing we know, tomorrow the Yanks will come out firing.
this 1-4 shit from arod and tex aint gonna cut it…
triple machine!!
Another triple for Tex? Wow.
hasn’t hit a triple all year until yesterday, now he has 2 in 2 games.
UZR hates Vernon Wells
Would anybody be surprised if we won today?
no.
next question.
I know I sound like a negative nancy, but yes, I would be very surprised.
tex with 2 triples in 2 nights??
wow
Gardner’s got some competition!
Yea, a walk-off two-out down by 3 in a 0-2 count Grand Slam!
I want a grand slam this inning. Can’t believe the regular position players have let Molina show them up for this long.
I love the ESPN headline about how impressive Dice-K was in his return. In 6 IP he gave up 3 BB and 9 fly balls. That’s generally not a recipe for success. His luck was good in 2008 and tonight, but those sort of peripherals won’t lead to sustained success.
on the other hand, we’ve been saying that his entire career
His peripherals were slightly better in 2007, but his performance was basically in line with what was expected. It’s just 2008 where he should have sucked, but got lucky and was actually pretty good. This year he should suck and has.
I know this was discussed in the previous thread, but how many games does posada get suspended for, and would he appeal it?
I’ll say 3-5. I don’t know if the obvious crack on Carlson’s head would have any bearing, but it certainly doesn’t look good. But it was pointed out before that the appeals process might push the suspension into next year, assuming Jorge continues to appeal.
Is there any chance Jorge’s suspension spills over into the playoffs?
Let’s say it takes Bob Watson 7-10 days to figure out what to do, and he gives Jorge 6 days. That would take us into October.
season goes until october 4th this year
No. I think the suspension would roll over into next season.
And if anything, he’d just appeal it. I doubt they get the hearing in within three or four weeks.
Good point. A long time ago, I remember a Yankee getting suspended for some reason and having it roll over into the next year, but I don’t remember who it was or why they were suspended.
Might have been Strawberry.
It won’t take 7-10 days to come up with a suspension.
so even if bob watson waits a week and a half to hand 6 games to jorge, he will miss the KC series and Tampa series. i doubt he takes more than 2 days though.
They’re usually quick handing out the suspensions (1-2 days). It’s the appeals that take forever.
Even the worst case in you scenario (10 days for decision + 6 game suspension) would end in the regular season. The Yankees have 3 regular season games in October before the playoffs start.
The reason many appeals take so long is because they generally wait for a guy’s team to come to New York (unless they are not scheduled to) for the hearing. That really shouldn’t be an issue with a Yankee. He’ll have a suspension within a day or two, appeal fairly quickly and the whole mess will be over and done with before the playoffs.
I don’t believe that suspensions carry into postseason.
…make league throw 30 pitches tonight–if nothing else, continue to gore the soft underbelly that is their pen…
fuckin League stinks against everyone else but is good against us.
EVERYBODY brings their A game to the yankees. get used to it.
EVERYBODY brings their A game to the yankees.
http://twitpic.com/esqf3
IETP
except Arthur Rhodes
14 hits + 3 walks = 3 runs?
KLong’s gonna have to lay the smack down.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....Rf9LBMvIJO
The good Joel Sherman makes an appearance, nails the Joba-babying thing.
” Sure you might notice that teams all over the major league landscape are either curtailing or completely shutting down young pitchers because their innings have swelled too high. But, again, those are facts. And those are other teams. These are the Yankees and they are ruining Chamberlain. Right?
They’re ruining him because he should be a reliever pitching less or a starter pitching more. Can’t the Yankees see this? They are pitching him too much, except for when they are pitching him too little. Why can’t the Yankees figure out how to use him just like you want him to be used, throwing seven innings as a starter on Monday and setting up Mariano Rivera on Tuesday? “
…maybe its just late, maybe my blood sugar is low, but i dont understand those words–if this were on teh SAT’s, i’d still be in teh army right now…
Read the full article. I couldn’t follow the excerpt either, but the full article is good.
I read that this morning and was flabbergasted.
There’s two Joels.
1-A calm, rational, somewhat modern sportswriter.
2-The Mets fan (which he is) who just doesn’t get what the Yanks are all about on any level.
The above article was the good Joel, and his pieces around opening day bashing the new ballpark were the bad Joel.
Awesome, maybe the best thing Sherman has ever said.
PREACH IT.
I just fistpumped in the most inappropriate place while reading that article.
MATSUI!!!
If that guy’s a kid, then I’m an infant.
guzman time.
Dude is like 35 yrs old, “kid behind the dugout.” Kay is a dunce.
Professional hitters never give up at bats.
1 for 7 is enough to tell you he’s not good at pinch-hitting?
It’s not his forte. LOL
Obviously.
WTF is matsui at first right now?!?!
What happened to CC in that brawl? Someone mentioned to me that he must have taken a shot to the head? Any other Yankee’s take shots?
Nothing happened to CC. From the camera views we saw anyway. His hat got a little dirty. Joe got punched in the face by Mcdonald. That’s about it.
League has REALLY good stuff
Al’s 163 pitch game: http://www.baseball-reference......4140.shtml
Heh, not even a complete game.
I hate when there is no postgame.
This game proves the Yanks can not win, all the other 90+ win games don’t matter
/Lombardied
I defended Mitre and this is what he gives me. What a jerk.
Fuck. I was really hopin this division would be wrapped up by the time our west coast swing came about.
I do not want to face Boston in the ALCS anymore with a healthy Matsuzaka…Beckett, Lester, Buchholz, Matsuzaka is deadly.
Matsuzaka sucks.
fans are flipping out about AJ, Beckett has been just as bad recently
Just saw a video of Girardi blatantly getting sucker punched while trying to break up the fight by John Macdonald, what a classy player.. Whole thing could of been avoided, I would of been all for it had the Yankees came up on top, but it wasn’t in the cards… I’d like to see us come back strong tomorrow with an offensive uproar, while hopefully Gaudin has a good outing.
im so pissed that i missed the fight
Im also pissed that Kyle Farnsworth isn’t on the team anymore. Today would have been the perfect moment for him