Game 150: Joba looking for more improvement
ByDid Joba really have a hitch in his delivery? I thought it was a psychological tactic, but there’s a chance the young rookie might have been out of sync. We’ll find out today as he faces the Seattle Mariners. It should be a five-inning affair for Joba, who has three starts remaining including today. The hope is to get him up to six innings in his next two.
Here’s the thing with addressing a mechanical flaw — whether real or invented — with the media: it’s your last excuse. If Joba falters today, there’s no explaining it away. They “discovered” the mechanical flaw, so it follows that the correction should be forthcoming. Considering how well he pitched against the Angels, it would be a disappointment to see Joba surrender any more than two runs over his five innings.
The Mariners will start Ian Snell, whom they acquired from the Pirates earlier this season. The Yankees pounded Snell in his third start after coming to the big boys’ league, prompting this gem: “That lineup is just stupid. They shouldn’t be allowed to have a lineup like that.” Awesome. Snell allowed eight runs over six innings that game.
He has pitched very well since, going 33 innings over six starts. His ERA in that span is a respectable 3.27, and he has allowed more than two earned runs only once. That was to the Angels, easily the best team he faced in those six starts. The breakdown: Detroit, Oakland twice, Kansas City, L.A., and Chicago. So he wasn’t exactly facing any stupid lineups, and his worst start came against by far the best team.
Lineup:
1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsu, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Melky Cabrera, RF
9. Brett Gardner, CF
And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain.
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I hope Joba can continue pitching well today
Same here.
We’ve got the A lineup in today.
That makes this a playoff preview.
I thought the Yankees were already eliminated in playoff previews.
Yup. We’re now working on getting eliminated from the 2010 playoffs.
But that’s a different era.
No way to compare it.
Of course – heh. But AG could if he were here now.
He’s here…
I guess I can’t see him – forgot my 3D glasses.
Pollyanna!
POSITIVE POSSE PANSY!
Didn’t you mean positive pussy pansy?
PUSSY TUBING!!!!
Say, any of you homos ever punched a gay? They make the funniest sound. Here, I made it my ring!
(passes out bayonets)
And I got a special nickname for our opponent this week: FAGGOTS! YOU’RE PLAYING THE NEW ENGLAND FAGGOTS!
LET’S GO. FUCKING KILLLLLLL IT!
http://www.theonion.com/conten.....=a-section
It’s rookie hazing day today! I wanna see some pics!
angels rallied against texas like i thought they would. so assuming they finish the rangers off today, joba is pitching to clinch a yankees postseason appearance. here is to starting a new playoff streak like the one torre had.
But that was a different era. I couldn’t resist. LOL.
It’s like fish in a barrel.
yes the torre years were an era of yankee dominance. then the arod era came around. how many pennants have we had since.
Hey, who managed the Yankees from 2004-2007?
Also, when was the last time the Yankees won a world series?
who was on the team during those years? afraud. torre won the pennant the year before he showed up. its been down hill ever since. i hope we can win it all this year and start the girardi era.
Sooo, Don Mattingly was one of the worst players ever, since he didnt win any WS either? Also, Luis Sojo>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mattingly?
no thats not true. mattingly was a franchise player. he wasn’t surrounded with amazing players. the yankees were amazing players and then arod comes in and they start losing. i think that is more than a coincidence. we could be talking about how the last time we won the pennant was before arod came to the team in 86 years from now.
the yankees were amazing players and then arod comes in and they start losing. i think that is more than a coincidence.
There’s lots of things that you think are true. They’re always false, though.
No, A-rod wasnt surrounded by amazing players either. Offensively, yes but he didnt have good pitchers around him, which is the most important. I think 4 years is more of a coincidence than an entire career no?
how many rings does arod have?
Lots of players don’t have rings. That doesn’t mean they suck.
how many rings does mattingly have? Sojo has 4 so he’s the best obviously.
No, the rings thing only counts when I want it to!
2003 rotation: Pettitte, Clemens, Wells, Moose
2004 rotation: Moose, Brown, Vasquez…Loaiza? El Duque?
Really? Arod? That was the problem?
A-rod has no wins and didn’t rally his team to win the game. If A-rod was so good, he would have willed his team to win no matter what.
Thus, Joe Mauer can’t be the MVP. QED.
Exactly. its all about starting pitching. How many titles would Scotty B win with the pitching staff from 2004-2008?
That’s arbitrary.
Like I said yesterday, I have to write an essay and read ~300 more pages now. I’ve barely started (30 mins ago) and now Im taking a 3 break for sports.
*3 hr
Excellent time management. You have to take into account priorities.
I’m trying to imagine what my GPA would have been if I’d had MLB.tv during college.
It’s not a pretty number.
So how many innings can Joba pitch today?
Read the first paragraph of Joe’s post.
*sigh*
The sad thing is I reread the article to see if he said that and I missed it….
double fail
Should be 5 I think.
Hopefully 5 innings worth. But how many pitches are there in an inning?
From Pete Abe: Chad Gaudin is your new No. 5 starter. Sergio Mitre has been banished to the bullpen.
good riddance. he made no positive contributions as a yankee starter. i will be happy in the playoffs when he never has a chance to see a game.
http://www.baseball-reference......8290.shtml
sometimes blind squirrels find acorns. does that mean that they are really good at finding food.
wait, so you’re admitting “W” means little when talking about how good a pitcher is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
no im saying that sergio mitre is still really bad.
But he won. He won his games. His huge ERA doesn’t matter, all that matters his he won the game.
/Herm Edwards
Mitre hasnt won his games. He has 3 wins in 9 starts.
Lanny, you don’t even know what you’re replying to.
Sergio Mitre:Pitching :: AG:Arguing about the value and effectivness of Pitchers
but he has 3 wins
Lions suck ass
they were 0-16 for a reason.
but they also put up 21 points on NO last year
Hey, Manimal:
Chris Johnson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Percy Harvin
Eh, I just traded away Chris Johnson straight up for Matt Forte. Thought it was good for me, feel kinda burned now
(note to self: Do not invest money in Joey’s mutual fund)
But I do have a pyramid scheme that I could possibly interest you in?
The check is in the mail.
Sincerely,
Fred and Jeff Wilpon
but uh dont cash it yet
/natinals
DiceK 5.1 IP 8H 2ER 5K – leaving with bases loaded
yeah omgz im scared of the DiceK
Ramirez just walked in a run
dice-k knows how to wiggle out of his hits. isn’t that what you want to do as a pitcher. it wasn’t too long ago that he won 18 games.
lets use your favorite stat: how many wins does he have this season?
you can’t look at this year. he has been facing injury.
He also flat out sucked for a long while
and last year he was lucky so you cant think thats the real dicek.
fact is he has 2 wins this season, that means he sucks
that doesnt matter. it is a different era now. fuck injuries. the bottom line is that he didnt win!
(notice my AG like non-capitalization)
That was last year and he was very lucky. He was in trouble in almost every game.
No…you want to minimize the number of base runners to maximize the number of outs you get and minimize the number of runs you give up.
You don’t want to throw 110 pitches in 5.1 innings and give up NINE baserunners.
if you wiggle out of it and get the win does it really matter.
So, Sergio Mitre = Dice K
Mitre wishes he had Dice K’s stuff.
Sergio Mitre: 3 wins
Dice-K: 2 wins
Wins are all that matter, Lanny! Don’t you know that?
/alexgonzalez’d
Yes. The whole point of looking at a player’s stats is to figure out how what his true talent level is so that you can try to project his performance going forward.
A pitcher who walks almost as may as he K’s, and who routinely throws 120 pitches over 5-6 innings is much, much more likely to be the 4.48 ERA kinda guy he was in 2007 than the guy he was in 2008.
Good ol AG.
Except that this year, the defense behind him is way worse than last year. Dice-K was reallllll lucky last year.
He must rally and will his team to victory. But then again last year was a different era.
if you think last year was a different era you clearly dont understand how eras work.
We’re mocking you. Always, we are mocking you.
But it technically WAS a different era. It was the Dice-K was marginally good era. This is the Dice-K is a crappy pitcher who is more lucky than last year era
If you really think 2004 was a different era than 2003, you clearly don’t understand how eras work. And you think 2003 and 2004 were different eras. So, as always, you fail.
there is a difference between baseball eras and team eras. there are many types of eras each covering different things.
Okay then. Last year was a different era than this year. Every year something new happens. Ergo every year is a new era.
Thats against the mighty Orioles too so yea, Dice-BB is meh.
Chiefs had been sucking badly against the Raiders but Bowe just made an awesome catch for a TD to take a 4 point lead with 2 and a half to go.
TD OAKLAND!
THE JETS DEFENSE HOLDS!!
BOOOM FUCK YEAH!!
Darrelle Revis has Wayne Brady’d Randy Moss all game long.
Someday, I hope to write a sentence that is composed only of proper nouns.
Also, this Wolverine movie really is awful.
This is lookin’ good. I just hope the Jets can win before the Yankee game starts.
damn that sack was terrible
Better to eat the ball than throw an interception.
def agreed
Yup.
Love this anti-prevent defense.
JETS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BALLGAME!!!
THE JETS CAN SEAL THE DEAL!
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Do you think he’d think that blog post is hilarious and awesome? I think he would.
I think it’s in poor taste and shows a level of unprofessionalism that is not part of the Jets team character.
Naw, I’m just fucking with ya. LET’S GO GET STEAKS AND BLOWJOBS!!!!!
I have to go take a monster shit.
The image of him eating a whole box of donuts while taking a huge dump…hilarious.
I’d hit it.
Looks like he ate Andy Reid there – but the man can coach
Billicheat is such a little bitch when things don’t go his way
lol Belichick is such a douchebag.
Why, what happened?
the way he shook Ryan’s hand was ridiculous. He basically avoided eye contact slapped ‘em 5 and ran away.
Gotcha. Thanks.
Belicheck is the biggest fuckin sore loser. He wouldn’t even look at Sanchez. Fuck youuu Billy.
He was trying to avoid the Meadowlands traffic on Route 3 – yeah that’s it
I was overwhelmed with joy when Brady’s knee exploded. Worst franchise.
What do u want him to do? Genuflect at the opposing QB?
Lanny: 1
Strawman: 0
C’mon, Joba. I want to see fistpump stuff this afternoon.
Raiders Win!! Joba will win!!
Jamarcus Russell was 7 for 24 for 109 yards passing, which is a 46.0 quarterback rating.
The Raiders won.
Jamarcus Russell is a good quarterback.
Q.E.D.
We all know this.
wow, roy williams can still hit like a dump truck
He also covers like a dump truck.
yup, there’s a reason he’s not on the cowboys anymore.
that is true, but thats why hes not out there all the time
magic number now down to billy martin. a win today by joba clinches.
doesnt matter. We have A-rod on the team, we aint doin shit.
We’re not going to win a title for 86 years.
sometimes a team can overcome the shortcomings of a player. that is what chemistry is about. barry bonds went to the world series and he was a terrible clubhouse guy, not to mention a cheater.
Arod isn’t a terrible clubhouse guy though.
Bonds hitting 200 home runs might have helped them get to the WS…
.582 OBP helped a little too
Definitely.
OK, I dont think A-rod did anything bad for chemistry and chemistry doesnt do shit but lets forget that. A-rod apparently, according to the beat writers, has been really good in the clubhouse this year. Does it mean we have clinched the WS?
i believe that the yankees will go to the world series this year and win it. with or without arod hitting. but most likely him not hitting.
SO…in that sense, it wasnt A-rod’s fault that we havent won a pennant since 2004 (in which btw, if Mo closes it out, A-rod wins MVP)
There’s lots of things that you believe. They’re all wrong, though.
Absolutely right. The 2002 Giants “overcame” the shortcomings of Barry Bonds to make it to the 2002 World Series. They carried his sorry ass all the way to the cusp of greatness. If not for all the great teammate rallyers rallying around each other, they wouldn’t have been able to overcome the dead weight in the lineup that Barry represented.
Barry Bonds, 2002 – .370/.582/.799
Those numbers are absurd, steroids or not. I would kill my own family to put up numbers of like that. I would inject horse semen into my ear lobes if it helped me hit like that. I’d time travel back to the 1940′s and hang out in Poland to…nevermind.
how well did he hit in the playoffs. you cant measure the effect his negative attitude may have had on other players during the playoffs
http://www.baseball-reference......html?redir
i posted them below but you can go see for yourself too.
how well did he hit in the playoffs.
Holy shit, am I glad you asked.
Barry Bonds, playoffs, 2002 – .356/.581/.978
you cant measure the effect his negative attitude may have had on other players during the playoffs
You can’t. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING, SHOULDN’T IT?
Nah, fuck it, you’re hopeless.
NLDS .294/.409/.824
NLCS .273/.591/.727
WS .471/.700/1.294
WS .471/.700/1.294
HOLY FUCKBALLS
7 games, 17AB, 8H, 2 2B, 4 HR, 13BB, 3K
thats fucking crazy
What if Joba goes 5 innings and gives up 0 runs and the offense doesn’t score any. But we score in the 7th inning and a reliever gets a win. Does that mean Joba failed?
Yes.
Clearly not enough teammate rallying by Joba.
a pitcher who cannot stay in the game and get a win for his team did not succeed.
But he has an innings limit of about 5…how is that his fault?
you can get a win in 5 innings. or he just has to use fewer pitches per inning.
you can get a win in 5 innings.
Exactly. Joba just needs to focus harder on rallying his teammates to get them to hit homers for him.
The 5-inning shutout is nice, but Joba didn’t make the offense score him any runs. He’s a bad pitcher because of that.
You’re missing the point, I said:
What if Joba goes 5 innings and gives up 0 runs and the offense doesn’t score any. But we score in the 7th inning and a reliever gets a win. Does that mean Joba failed?
Does this apply to A.J. Burnett and the 15 inning game against Boston?
AJ Burnett should have pitched all 15 innings.
He would probably have thrown 200 pitches, but getting the all important W would have been totally worth it.
That clinches a tie for wild card with the Rangers. The Yanks have a 5-4 W/L against Texas so that is the tiebreaker (I think).
I’m looking for a lot more than the wild card though.
so you wont be happy today when the yankees guarantee a playoff spot. man some fans are hard to please.
man some fans are hard to please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
…wait…YOU are calling out OTHER fans for being unreasonable and ridiculous?
Actually – I won’t happy with just the wild card. They have played far too well to be satisfied with the wild card. I’ll be happy with the AL East Title, 100 wins and best AL record. It’ll be a great year.
I’ll still be pleased with the year even if they get bounced in the ALDS. Disappointed of course that they didn’t go further, but playoffs are such crap shoots.
Usually I am a happy fan if the Yankees are competitive down to the last few weeks of the season. I’m old enough to have seen many Yankee chanpionships and I know you can’t expect to win it all every year in this age of parity (or the age of attempted parity).
Fuck! Fumble on the opening kickoff for the Broncos.
C’mon, Alex! A bit inside but you should be swinging!
Eh, Snell locked him up by changing speeds. It happens. The guy’s been all over the place; I don’t really have too much of a problem waiting him out. Matsui’s AB was kind of ridiculously short.
Damn, Snell was really struggling in this iining. I hoped we would score some runs here, because he could be like Cy Young in the second. It will be whole new era next inning after all.
[/alex gonzalez'd
Why isn’t Joba walking Ichiro?
We should just forfeit
Is the tying run on 2nd with first base open??? Not like you arent facing the best singles hitter in the game or anything
and its not like the GREATEST CLOSER OF ALL TIME was pitching or anything
Joba’s first few pitches look pretty good.
AG, you keep jumping around from one argument to another everytime since refutes your statement and arent answering any questions.
Is Luis Sojo better than Mattingly or not? He has 4 more rings.
Ironically, you know what Luis Sojo is probably best known for?
Rallying his teammates.
no. don mattingly is better. i dont jump around arguments. i follow through in a logic driven well thought out manner.
Yea, you do. TSJC brought it up the other day, it called a moving argument.
How the hell is Mattingly better, he didnt win any rings? Give me some evidence.
mattingly was a better player no question. how can you argue otherwise. he should be in the hall of fame. no question. he just hurt his back and shortened the peak of his career.
Stats dont matter, he never fucking won! Thats all that matter, no?
i dont jump around arguments. i follow through in a logic driven well thought out manner.
(stands back to avoid the lightning strike)
http://instantrimshot.com/
No, you don’t. You constantly re-define your arguments on the fly so that you can’t — in your mind — ever be wrong.
He isnt answering this. He’s just thinking about what to say because he knows he spouts bullshit.
i answered it. why does everyone on here always assume i wont answer a question i am asked. i do if i know how.
answer my question above.
You didn’t answer that one:
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-589938
Clay Bellinger has two more rings then Barry Bonds and Ted Williams combined.
Joba’s velocity looks great.
That foul tip slider to Ichiro was deadly
Let’s see if he can sustain it through the 5 or 6 innings
Not racking up this kind of pitch count. He’s got what, 80 pitches or so?
Congrats Jets fans. They just won the(ir) Super Bowl.
PUSSYTUBING
lol damon threw that wicked fahhh
I’m just surprised Damon’s throw made it to the infield.
Damon with the cannon!! lol
Yankees showing grit.
damn griffey crushed that
Holy lord, Junior.
Gameday refuses to acknowledge Joba pitching.
Really, Joba? Letting the corpse of Griffey hit a rocket?
(Side note: how laughable is it that Mariners fans always loved Griffey when he whined his way out of town, but hate A-Rod for walking via FA?)
I mean dat damn A-Rod. How dare he takes the largest contract in sports history. Terrible person indeed.
Maybe Eiland should be focused on Joba keeping his focus. And not some imaginary hitches in delivery. He doesnt finish innings and lets it get away from him. There are 3 outs in an inning. Not 2.
maybe kevin long should. he can do anything if he sets his mind to it. or least that is what i am told on here.
maybe kevin long should. he can do anything if he sets his mind to it. or least that is what i am told on here.
alex gonzalez: 1
Strawman: 0
Dude, learn some reading comprehension.
yeah holy shit, how fucking dare he give up a run. want a punk, send him to AA
Technically, there are two outs in an inning.
And the Lord spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceedest on to three.
Five is right out.
Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.” Amen.
I love the set of ridiculous assumptions that got you to this statement.
cmon joba
lets not let those 2 out hits come along
Ummm, why did Jeter give up on that? I thought he could save it from going into the OF even though he’ll give up a hit anyway
whats up with jorge coming back to catch for joba
Because he’s the best catcher on the team.
posada is catching. that may explain some things.
It does explain things.
Things like, “My, why does our lineup look so good again?”
Or: “What’s that smell?”
Like what, the World Series ring? Hell, before A-Rod got here Posada, the catcher, was winning WS rings at an unbelievable pace. I see it know, A-Rod turned Posada into the horrible catcher that he is today!!
Spot on alex gonzalez, as always.
This year Jorge walk-offs: 2
Cevelli: 1
Molina: 0
Obviously Jorge wins the most games so he’s the best.
walkoffs aren’t the only way to win games. did you know that?
So how do you know how many wins Molina has? Jorge directly won a game but Molina didnt. Gimme some sats on how many wins Molina has.
molina has directly won games that is the problem. it is very difficult to measure. all the statheads try to do it but generally fall miserably with their fantasy predictions that are similar to them rolling a dice and playing dungeons and dragons in their mothers basement while eating cheetos and drinking snapple on their stained couch that they use as both a bad and a toilet due to complete laziness and very little value to society other than a possible job in an office working from 9 to 5 as some kind of marketing agent.
Batshit insane.
The sad thing: I have absolutely no idea if you are joking.
Not even you could be as stupid as that, right?
All I got was something about laziness, so I assume that post was about Cano?
May I sub-respond before you finish?
Do you?
I just got here and read thru the posts.
In all seriousness, do we need to stage an intervention for alex gonzalez?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy
and don’t forget:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....nternet%29
The way he argues, it seems like he’s already had one.
Please stop responding to him, he’s obviously just messing with you.
Yup… DNFTT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Eh, we’re more messing with him than anything else.
I wouldn’t be convinced of that. Either way, it’s amusing.
Problem is he’s not messing with anyone.
maybe Jorge shouldn’t be calling for so many change ups in the first innings. Guy hasn’t even established the fast ball and he’s calling for Joba’s 4th best pitch.
Maybe Joba should try not leaving all his pitches up.
So what your saying is, if a pitcher throws bad pitches, it just might be his fault? You sir, are revolutionizing this game.
Yes, but what if Joba wins this game?
That changes everything.
It’ll speak to Joba’s greatness in overcoming such a horrible catcher as Posada.
Yup.
Shades of the 2002 Giants overcoming Barry Bonds. I’m getting goosebumps already.
And, furthermore, that it may not mean he is a terrible pitcher who is a bust at age 23.
Now you’ve gone too far. He has 0 Cy Youngs, 0 20 win seasons and 0 rings, he clearly is a bust.
The hits are coming off his 4th best pitch. Don’t call it for it. I just don’t think Jorge calls a good game with young pitchers. Don’t work on things right now when Joba probably doesn’t have full confidence.
A pitcher is responsible for making pitches. If he couldn’t get outs with his changeup, they’d just have him scratch the pitch altogether.
You’re assuming its a changeup. Maybe its his fastball.
He’s throwing 85 mph fastballs?
Thank you, Gardner.
Hearing Singy say “Damon battles the sun” had ice cold fear running through my veins.
“Damons under it” has the same affect
Even worse, “Damon’s under it, and the runner is tagging”
Yeah – He can only amke the play if he’s on top.
Posada keeps giving up singles, wtf
oops, wrong spot
A-rod walk-offs: 3
Jeter: 0
Need to DFA that non-winning bum Jeter.
But if A-Rod would be clutch earlier in the game then he wouldn’t need a walkoff so he is still unclutch.
I can c the opening headlines from the Pats/Jets game.
Pats almost guttied through a win, Jets barely escape with the win.
Hey, when did you get hired by ESPN??
Oh come on, the media hate the Pats with a passion. Especially ESPN (and Tom Jackson, who Belichick told to go fuck himself).
Really?
About which part? Yes, the media hates the Pats, 99% stemming from Belichick, which I think is great.
As far as Tom Jackson goes, after the Pats cut Lawyer Milloy and got destroyed by Milloy’s Bills 5 days later 31-0, Jackson said the Pats “hate their coach.” Later that season, maybe even at the Super Bowl, Jackson approached Belichick and he told him to go fuck himself.
I dont know about that. They all suck up to Belichick any chance they get. Trade Richard Seymour? Yeah of course- it improves them in 2012 so it was the trade of the year!
Yea I’m sure the execs at ESPN sit around all day and plan how they will make coverage tilt in all of Bostons teams favors. All day. Biggest conspiracy ever.
well they have it covered on the baseball side with Peter Gammons
Giving up line drives to former Met minor leaguers? DFA ASAP.
David Wright is a former Met minor leaguer.
ugh, how are the mariners doing this sheet
C’mon, Joba. Make them pay for that bunt.
Great smart move there by the Mariners manager. Bunting in the 2nd inning against the Yankees up 2-0 with Snell on the mount. And leave 1b open so they can walk your best hitter.
Nah the bunt is a great move.
+1 (the amount of dumb outs given up by the Mariners). The anti-bunting crowd, me included, agree that there is a place in the game for bunting. Under no circumstances does it make sense to bunt in the 2nd inning of an AL game.
Gotta be careful throwing balls to Ichiro.
hmm, not exactly a step in the right direction through 2 innings for the kid from Nebraska who has lost his touch(slightly)
Looked good to me.
Gutierrez is not particularly fooled by Joba’s slider.
Yikes.
Come on ,Joba
holy cow
Posadas not calling a good game today
glad someone can actually acknowledge that fact.
You really don’t understand sarcasm, do you?
Its Jorge’s fault that Joba isnt good?
No.
However, Joba isn’t “isn’t good”.
Yea hes been great as a starter this season. Only you Eric could say a guy whos given up 7 runs in 2 innings to the WORST offense in baseball is good.
Only you, Robert Sal Grant, could say that one game can make a talented young pitcher “not good”.
There goes Posada’s era
cmon DP
Would’ve liked that strike call.
How many more excuses can the people here give for Joba? The hitch in the delivery thing should really be the last straw right?
How many more excuses can the people here give for Joba?
A lot. Because we understand the difference between “giving excuses” and “being patient”.
How many times are you going to come here just to stir things up?
Still waiting for your first intelligent post
30+ starts here. Patience is another good excuse.
What about Hallday’s first 30 starts?
He’s 23 years old.
thank you lord for grit’s speed
Really, Joba? The corpse of Griffey?
/shakes head
Holy shit.
I guess the innings thing wont matter much today so thats nice.
Oh my god
7-0
I officially have zero confidence in Joba. I would almost rather have Gaudin pitching in the number four slot then him at this juncture.
Let’s not go crazy here.
Tommie. You have a bit of Joba’s cum on the side of your face. Wipe it off.
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Bring in IPK
Joba is done. Time to shelf him for the year. This is not good for the Yankees.
Um… How bout them Jets.
I like Singleton for the play by play much more than Kay, but did he just say that Jose Lopez is a prett good hitter?
268/302/463
Come on, Ken! Cheat off of Cones stats!
Oh, yay. I can’t wait for the hatred to start spewing forth.
Girardi: I thought he pitched better than his line will show.
You know thats a coming.
Just like the Joba excuses. Patience, hitches, Posada calling games, youth, his momma, innings limits, west coast time, espn, etc etc.
Lanny acting like a fucking moron, etc., etc., etc.
Let’s get Swisher to pitch!
That was pretty terrible.
aww crap.. Now people are gonna be using this game also to say that Joba sucks. Jumps of a cliff*
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OMG PLAYOFF PREVIEW
Well, I kinda dont think any playoff team will start someone like say Ian Snell.
But going against someone like King Felix would be under playoff conditions. Are u dont think so Eric?
Are u dont think so Eric?
Um… Yes? No? I have no freaking clue what the hell you’re speaking about, Robert.
(Yeah, I can use your real first name like I’m an asshole too.)
2 ip, 6 hits, 7 runs 7 ER 2walks, 1 hr…51 pitches
Joba, thanks for the work this year but you need to work on some stuff over the winter.
just like every other 23 year old pitcher does.
except Buchholz, cause he was a stud at 23
not worried about every other 23 year old, just the one in the Yankees line up. And being 23 is no excuse, this is his second season in the majors, he should show some improvement.
Clay B kept being sent down to AAA to work on things when hedidnt show improvement too. He had to earn a way back to the big club and hes obviously better for it.
yea bcause his ERA was a full 2 runs higher than Joba’s, all while being older and more ML innings.
So you’re not concerned at all about him?
JOBA HAS A NEW HITCH IN HIS DELIVERY! All joking aside could it just be he is pitching innings he has never thrown before in his life…? He has no location.
I understand the patience approach, because there is no telling what Joba will become, but as far as the next few weeks go (postseason), I am at a total loss as to what should be done with this guy.
AG’s arguments:
A-rod sucks because he cant win.
Mattingly is good even though he didnt win.
Wins tell everything.
Mitre wins but its just being lucky. Dice-BB walks a tightrope in every start but he wiggles out so it means he’s a good winning pitcher.
Posada sucks. Molina is good. Posada has directly won 2 games this year. Molina has 0. However, you cant measure how many other games Molina has won. However, you can tell Posada costs us a lot of games.
Awesome. I hope you dont ever become a teacher, the kids would think 2+2 is 22.
What about Bonds?
oh yea duh, lemme up date that
Obviously you never want to see one of your guys get hurt. But is it wrong to wish that Joba develops an addiction to heroine or crystal meth really soon so we don’t have to see his ugly freaking face anymore during Yankee games?
Yea, you’re a yankee fan!
But is it wrong to wish that Joba develops an addiction to heroine or crystal meth really soon so we don’t have to see his ugly freaking face anymore during Yankee games?
Yes.
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http://www.unixprogram.com/ima.....sholes.gif
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wow, what a fan.
Yes it’s wrong. And batshit insane.
It’s nice to see that next weeks series with the Sox will decide the division. You figure after the Angels series the Red Sox will be about 2 out.
I like your couch half better.
And now all the socks make an appearance. Fun, fun, fun.
IP address check, please?
IP address check? What are you a little wuss? Cant take a little heat? IP check? My Mo RAB is beginning to be filled by little boys who suck on their thumbs, well amongst other things I’m sure.
Ok, time for Joba to be shut down for the year.
Why shut him down?
Wouldnt he be better in the pen than say Bruney or Mitre or whoever in the 6-7 innings?
Um, Bruney and Mitre are not seeing the playoffs.
So, yes, Joba’s probably better than other guys who won’t be in the playoffs. I don’t want him in the playoffs, either.
this is how a future ace is supposed to look? granted posada hasn’t been doing a great job behind the plate, but how many excuses can we continue to make for joba as a starter. i only hope that someone in the yankees organization is actually watching this game today.
i only hope that someone in the yankees organization is actually watching this game today.
I don’t even know what this means. Is this a serious question? And if it is, what of it? You hope that they’ll overreact like you will?
You know what? Nevermind, forget that I asked.
wise decision.
You’re right. They should release him now. Or better yet, see if they can get teh Red Sox to take him off our hands.
How about simply the fact that this is the first season he has ever started a game after August 4th? Most pitchers do that in A-Ball, and develop the stamina to last late into a season during the minors. Joba’s trying to do it in the majors.
How did Hallday (a future ace) look at age 23?
27 CGs, 3 Cy Youngs and 4 WS rings
Are Girardi and Eiland “in the Yankees organization?”
Cuz I’m pretty sure they’re watching the game.
I guess it’s just that stupid train confusing Joba.
BUT HE HAS 8 WINS!!!!! only 5 losses, he’s pitching pretty well
More like LAMEberlain!
AMIRITE!?!?
Guys-just because Joba hasn’t been lights-out sub 3 ERA, does not mean he’s a terrible pitcher, cannot be a top-notch pitcher, or is “done”.
We’re all a bit disappointed in how the season has gone and some things have been concerning; it doesn’t merit the vitriol he’s been forced to deal with.
If it takes a few years for him to consistently be a great pitcher, so be it. Don’t write him off as a starter before he turns 24. Patience.
agreed. A lot of Yankee fans have 0 patients. They expect an Ace to come from parted clouds in the sky and be lights out from the get go.
88 minor league innings!
With the Yankees most likely losing today, 5 ahead of the Red Sox with a 3 game series ahead isn’t that comfortable.
Yes it is.
Angels too. Idk, I’m probably just overreacting to the sawks being hot lately.
Yes, it is.
Magic Number = 1
Confidence level = 10
Someone explain how the 2-0 pitch to Gardner was a strike – or the 2-1 for that matter.
because the ump called it one.
catchers glove popped really loud = strike
What’s with all the Joba bashing? If the Yankees get 8 runs here, they are winning, meaning Joba is pitching great.
And if they do get 8 runs here, Joba’s tRA will be thru the roof.