Game 156: Battle of the B lineups


Today’s Dan Shaughnessy column isn’t worth a link. In essence he writes off these Sox losses as the team putting on the brakes, and the Yankees still going full bore. Whatever that means. Both teams know their places by this point. They’re both playing most of their regulars. The Yankees won the first two games. Deal with it, Boston.

The Yanks would reach a couple of milestones if they win. First would be clinching the AL East. That would be especially sweet in light of the Red Sox recent comments that they’d celebrate clinching a playoff spot in the Yankee Stadium visitor’s locker room. That’s now an impossibility, as Texas has won their past two. They would also even the season series with the Sox at 9-9 after losing the first eight.

If the Yankes win I’ll have just one question. Where would I go to read all the articles declaring that the Sox can’t beat the Yanks?

Paul Byrd takes the mound for the Sox today. Signed in August and called up just before rosters expanded, Byrd has been nothing besides a fill-in fifth starter — kind of like Chad Gaudin and Sergio Mitre. Byrd has actually done a pretty good Mitre impression, rarely finishing the sixth and usually allowing a few runs along the way. The Royals destroyed him in his last start, pushing his ERA above 6.00.

For the Yanks it will be Andy Pettitte, making his second to last start of the season. After battling shoulder fatigue earlier this month, Andy came back with a strong start against Anaheim last Monday. He’ll get two more starts, both on long rest, to stay in his rhythm. Chances are he’ll be starting on seven days’ rest in Game 3 of the ALDS.

Jorge and his neck get another day off as the Yanks trot out a B lineup. It’s raining, but the word as of 12:38 is that they’re going to start on time. Tarp is off. Feel free to comment on the two football games as well. The remote’s going to get a decent workout today.

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Brett Gardner, CF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Nick Swisher, RF
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Melky Cabrera, LF
9. Jose Molina, C

And on the mound, number forty-six, Andy Pettitte.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. The Evil Empire says:

    Let’s pop champagne!

  2. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Very bipolar of him…

    Anyways Yankees are resting as they have been doing, can’t wait when they sweep that we’ll hear all these articles saying how the Red Sox were taking it easy.

    • JMK says:

      You know how your parents used to tell you that you’d go blind if you watched too much TV? It’s true if you only watch Ken Rosenthal.

  3. Mike Axisa says:

    Damn, tarp’s back on the field.

  4. And the print media industry is wondering why it’s dying. Two words, print media people: quality control. If you publish columns like Shaughnessy’s, readers will go elsewhere for their baseball news/opinion. We’re not beholden to the Shaughnessys of the world anymore, the marketplace is competitive and the print media industry has to change with the times.

    • JMK says:

      There are some funny parallels between the failings of the porn industry and the print media industry. Seriously. This does sadden me, though (journalism degree).

      • Yeah but don’t worry… Soon enough you’ll be a lawyer, and that’s a recession-proof industry.

        ::makes wanking motion with hand::

        • JMK says:

          You’ve finished law school, right Mondesi? Much of the reading I’ve done of late tells me things are dicey in the legal profession. This is the reason I figured I’d work (my job is terrible, though) and ride out the economy a bit. Hopefully the crushing cost of law school doesn’t slice me in half when I get out and the only jobs available are in the public sector (as they seem to be now). Have you found things to be tricky?

          • Yeah things are pretty dicey and have been for a while, but it’s bad everywhere so it’s not like the legal profession is the only industry that’s feeling it. A lot of the big firms over-expanded so there’s a correction going on, and the capital markets and real estate problems haven’t helped matters obviously.

            The decision whether to go to grad school or not is very interesting right now. On one hand, I think it’s probably pretty great to not be in the workforce while we’re in such a lull and to get school taken care of during that time, but on the other hand, it’s definitely tough and somewhat risky to leave a decent job right now. Ms. Mondesi is wrestling with the same question right now, so I hear you.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

        Thank god we will need tires for a long time.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Newspapers survive on clicks, so they almost have to publish stuff like this.

  5. Jamie says:

    What’s the deal with Pete Abe’s successor? I’m assuming its Sam Borden?!?!

    Yes, no maybe?

  6. Andy In Sunny Daytona says:

    I’m hoping Andy comes back strong after missing a few starts because of shoulder fatigue.

    /Kruk’s revisionism’d

  7. Januz says:

    That column was so pathetic, the only good thing that can be done with it, is to use it to line the cat box (Even Red Sox fans had major objections with it (Such as pointing out the fact Gerardi rested his regulars in key ganes, such as game 3 in Anaheim))). I had always respected the Globe, because they never drank the Kool-Aid put out by “The Boy Genius” Epstein, and the rest of the Sox heirarchy, over stuff like the pursuit of Teixeira, the second to none Sox farm system (Including the next Albert Pujois, Lars Anderson), the future CY Young winner, John Smoltz, and all the rest. This is the kind of garbage I would have expected out of John Kruk and ESPN.
    That respect, is now over. This kind of yellow journalism (Coupled with the hiring of Benedict Arnold (aka Peter Abraham)), puts them in the same boat as ESPN. Come to think of it, since the Globe is up for sale, maybe Disney (ESPN’s corporate owner), should buy it, then Shaughnessy can join Gammons and Ryan on ESPN, and Gammons can go back to writting for the Globe?

  8. JMK says:

    Aren’t we lucky to get Phillips and Morgan on this beautiful, sunny day?

  9. ds says:

    It really isn’t a B lineup for the Yanks; it’s more an A-. Why don’t they give Jeter and/or A-rod the day off the field; I’m sure they could use it.

  10. Mike Axisa says:

    Those old Oiler unis are Mo awful.

  11. I’m curious how other Jets fans feel about the throwback (NY Titans) unis. I don’t like when the Jets wear them, I think it’s weird to wear a completely different color scheme.

    Jets throwback (NY Titans) uniforms: Yay or Nay?

  12. Luthien says:

    Of course FOX would show some lame Kevin Costner movie where I am instead of the Giants game. :(

  13. After two games and three plays of the third game, it’s already official:

    Mark Sanchez is the best Jet quarterback of my lifetime. Hands down. No questions about it.

  14. Riddering says:

    Considering where they are in the season, it would have been fun to see Yanks v. Greinke but, alas, it is not to be.

  15. Mouch "Half Man Half Couch" says:

    In Sanchez we trust.

  16. JobaJr says:

    I live in Mass so I was able to read his column hardcover this morning. What a joke he is. Keep picking fights with more players Dan, it sure is working for you.

  17. Mike Pop says:

    Damn, Jets bout to blow them out.

  18. Andy In Sunny Daytona says:

    Tampa looks as strong as iron……………iron that’s been submerged in sea water for 75 years.


  19. Bob Stone says:

    Joe writes:

    “The Yanks would reach a couple of milestones if they win. First would be clinching the AL East. That would be especially sweet in light of the Red Sox recent comments that they’d celebrate clinching a playoff spot in the Yankee Stadium visitor’s locker room. That’s now an impossibility, as Texas has won their past two. They would also even the season series with the Sox at 9-9 after losing the first eight.”

    Another milestone is first season at 100 wins or more since 2004. Oh wait . . . 2004? . . . maybe that’s why he didn’t mention it.

  20. Mike Pop says:

    Heh, faked ‘em out.

  21. Mike Axisa says:

    Mark Sanchez is a god.

  22. Dela G says:



  23. Tom Zig says:

    I want a walk off win today.

    any one of these three:

    Daniel Bard
    Billy Wagner (just so we can dig at Sox fans and Mets fans at the same time)
    Jonathan Papelbon

  24. Mouch "Half Man Half Couch" says:

    Sanchez has a chance to take this city the way Jeter has. OK, the beer is kicking in and I need a slap but he can be huuuuuge.

  25. Drew says:

    I’m conflicted. Mike Vick has been my favorite player for about ten years. Now he’s on the fucking eagles..

  26. Dela G says:

    The Jets Defense is PUMPED!!!

  27. Ooooooh, girls in short skirts and boots…

  28. Anyone see that Macy’s commercial with all the celebrities setting up a make shift dinner table? Jessica Simpson is asked to pass the rolls, and she throws in away, and then says , “you could’ve had that.” Is that a shot at Tony Romo, i think so.

  29. AndrewYF says:

    Interception! Go Giants!

  30. Dela G says:

    damn that punt was soooooooo close to being blocked…

  31. I find it weird that they still are showing Billy Mays infomercials. They keep coming out with new ones. It’s like he’s fucking Tupac.

  32. Joebrah says:

    So, what’s it looking like outside?

    Is this game gonna be starting soon? I wanna be the asshole at the bar that gets one of the football games changed to this game….

    in Arizona…

  33. That was foolish, Kerry Collins.

    There are no receptions made on Revis Island.

  34. Dela G says:

    damn this jets defense is incredibe

  35. Mike Axisa says:

    Darrelle Revis is amazing. What a play.

  36. AndrewYF says:

    Zombieland looks like a lot of fun.

  37. JMK says:

    Do people generally become fans of the Giants or Jets based on their parents’ allegiances? To me, it seems to have geographic distinctions. Correct me if I’m wrong:

    North/Central Jersey=Giants
    Orange County=Giants
    Long Island=Jets
    Staten Island=Jets

    I have no idea about the Bronx and I have no empirical data to back any of this up. Let me know what you think, guys.

  38. Dela G says:

    sanchez, let’s not get hasty here with those risky throws

  39. I just caught the tail-end of Gammons on The Worldwide Leader talking about how Girardi has been keeping CC well-rested this season and how he’s not going to be gassed when the playoffs start, like he has been in the past.

    Think Gammons read Shaughnessy’s column this morning?

  40. sal says:

    Can anyone answer this

    Lets say this game is rained out and the sox’s win all the game and the yankees drop all the game. So the sox’s are 1 game back with one to play.

    Do they play that game ?
    If they play that game do the yankees start CC
    and the sox’s stat Lester?

    I know this isn’t going to happen, but its something to think about

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Yes, if he lines up for it, if he lines up for it.

      There’s zero chance that scenario plays out though.

    • If the Yankees and Red Sox have both clinched playoff spots, they wouldn’t make the game up just to determine who wins the division and who is the wildcard, they’d just use tiebreakers. And the Yankees one game lead would be that tiebreaker.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        But home field advantage would be on the line, wouldn’t they play it?

      • sal says:

        Thats what I though, but wasn’t 100% sure. So a rain out will clinch it. I’m sure this wouldn’t be the ending of the race we all looked foward too.

      • Pasqua says:

        They wouldn’t have a one game playoff to determine division winner, but I’m pretty sure they would play the 162nd game to determine it. I think they only eliminate reg. seasons games when they have no bearing on playoff standings. That game, in that scenario, would.

        • No, that’s not correct.

          First of all, they’d only have a one-game playoff if we were TIED for the division lead, not if the Sox had an OPPORTUNITY to tie. If this game is rained out, and we lose all the rest of our games and Boston wins all the rest of theirs, we’d be 99-62 and the Sox would be 98-63. They wouldn’t make that game up, we’d just win the division outright. They’d only have to play the game if:

          A) we were tied at 99-62 or 98-63 AND
          B) the winner of the division makes the playoffs and the loser does not. Since the Yankees or Red Sox would be either the ALE champ or the WC, they’d just use tiebreakers and not play the game.

          • sal says:

            So as I understand, the yankess could have called off the game based on the rain and weather report and clinched today. I believe once it hits game time its up to the umps.

          • Pasqua says:

            But WAIT! If the Red Sox were to win this last game (in the established scenario) they would win the season series, the division as a result, and they would then have home-field advantage. So, the game would have meaning / change the “playoff picture”…and therefore be played.

            • Again, they don’t make up games on Monday that have seeding implications or HFA implications.

              They only play on Monday to determine if you’re in the playoffs or out of the playoffs. They wouldn’t make this game up if it was rained out.

              • Pasqua says:

                I’ll take that as true, but then it begs the question: how is that fair? If the game is washed away, the Yankees have clinched without actually clinching. Something seems very wrong with that (though the fan in me wouldn’t complain).

              • sal says:

                so lets say they played that game would you start CC ? after all it means home feild all the way to the WS

                now that we know the game will be played and that they wouldn’t play the game

          • Jack says:

            they’d just use tiebreakers and not play the game.

            Stupid nerds and their spreadsheets. THE GAME IS PLAYED ON THE FIELD.

            /Murry Chass and those of his ilk’d.

  41. Dela G says:

    ugh, that sucked sanchez

  42. Can someone please tell Jeff Fisher that “throwback uniform day” doesn’t mean he has to dress like he’s 12 years old? Good grief that’s an embarrassing shirt.

  43. Dela G says:

    cmon jets D, you gotta clamp down there

    clamp down big here

  44. Dela G says:

    Damn it

    touchdown titans

    scott almost had him

  45. Dela G says:

    hey the yankees game might be starting!

  46. whozat says:

    Hey, it’s the Danimal starting for the Pirates against the Dodgers!

  47. Jesus H. Montero, the Kansas City Chiefs suck.

  48. Dela G says:

    Oh my Mo, the jets D needs to get to collins again

  49. Dela G says:

    the game is about to start!

  50. Mike Axisa says:

    Yanks game is starting.

  51. Dela G says:

    Great 4th down stop by the JETS!

  52. Dela G says:

    i know ortiz is 2-4 against andy P, but why not have vmart in when he is actually hitting?

  53. Mike Axisa says:

    Hopefully they get four and a half innings in and call this one a game.

  54. Riddering says:

    Gardner > Ellsbury

  55. Dela G says:

    i looooove jon miller’s voice

    i could hear him call any sport, any day

  56. whozat says:

    No, Joe…actually, Lester is supposed to start the first game.

  57. Dela G says:


  58. Mike Axisa says:

    That was the ol’ unintentional intentional walk to Youk.

  59. Dela G says:

    boy this is one tough ass ump

    does not give that K at the knees

  60. whozat says:

    Well, Andy looks like shit so far.

  61. Mike Axisa says:

    Come on Andy, knock it off.

  62. Dela G says:

    cmon andy… really?

  63. Molina, catch the fucking ball.

  64. Dela G says:

    its so odd, give him the damn bottom of the K zone u buffoon ump

  65. Riddering says:


  66. whozat says:


  67. Accent Shallow says:

    I really do not like Mike Lowell.

  68. Dela G says:

    DAMN IT!

  69. Pete says:

    As Mo as my witness, I hate ESPN games more than anything.

  70. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Injury Delay on gameday. What happened??

  71. Russ says:

    Talk about a small strike zone…

  72. Jersey says:

    So applying the same definition of “looking good” to Andy today as Dice yesterday, Andy is in postseason form wriggling out of jams, right?

  73. Dela G says:

    boy i hope paul byrd gets the same POS strike zone

  74. Salty Buggah says:

    Damnit, I really can’t believe I overslept. Thanks Mo it was delayed a bit though.

    I hope we crush Byrd.

  75. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Ellsbury does not deserve the GG.

  76. Salty Buggah says:

    “Lined like a bullet!”


    Cmon Gardy, no DP…keep it going. RUN DEREK RUN!

  77. Mike Axisa says:

    Time to run, Jetes.

  78. Dela G says:


  79. Dela G says:

    jeter better run like a mad man

  80. Mike Axisa says:

    That bunt was retarded. It’s Paul friggin’ Byrd and it’s the first inning.

  81. Salty Buggah says:

    Why fuckin bunt! Get a hit. OR steal at least!

  82. Why not have Jeter steal second, then have Gardner bunt him over to third?

  83. Dela G says:

    i guess the dirt is too slick to steal?

  84. Salty Buggah says:

    That was not a strike 2 to Tex on Gameday!

  85. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Bring him home A-Rod

  86. Salty Buggah says:

    Cmon Alex, drive him home please.

  87. Riddering says:

    Alex, don’t mess with me that way.

  88. Dela G says:

    wow tex is slow

  89. Salty Buggah says:

    Fuck you ump! Stop giving him shitty calls.

  90. Pete says:

    Cy Byrd in postseason form.

  91. Salty Buggah says:

    Fuckin bunt gave em a free out!

  92. Mike Axisa says:

    Good thing they gave up that out.

  93. Dela G says:

    damn a-rod…

  94. Riddering says:

    That was not productive.

  95. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    We’ll get em next inning.

  96. Awesomeness says:

    espn dallas before new york seriously?

    • Dela G says:


      can you believe they did chicago and boston and dallas before nyc and LA?

    • Riddering says:

      ESPN Omaha will come before NY.

    • Makes perfect sense to me. NY already gets a ton of play in the existing media outlets.

      I’ve seen a few comments here lately complaining about other cities getting city-specific ESPN websites before NYC, and I can’t understand for the life of me why anyone would care.

      • JMK says:

        Exactly. The media outlets in both LA and (especially) New York are much tighter and have a ton of coverage already. Think of it from a business standpoint – ESPN is competing with what , for online sports supremacy? There’s a huge gap they can fill there. Unfortunately, I know very little about the other markets, but I would assume there’s a void ESPN can certainly capitalize on (Isn’t Tribune Co. dropping, too?), whereas in New York, it seems like a MUCH smaller margin. Besides, ESPN’s coverage (considering their tremendous resources) is garbage. Pass.

  97. whozat says:

    Wow, that was clearly a strike. How can Byrd get those inside calls, but Andy can’t?

  98. Salty Buggah says:

    Sase-hit to Varitek? after being ahead?

    Cmon Andy…quick efficient inning please

  99. That 0-2 pitch to Tek was strike 3. This ump has been awful so far.

  100. Pete says:

    By the way, did they officially switch over all the TV programming to “ESPN Boston” too?

  101. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Varitek Single FAIL

  102. Dela G says:

    wow what the fuck was that ump?

  103. JMK says:

    Hey guys, just tuned in to the Yankee game. The Sox have a run. What happened?

  104. Riddering says:

    Mmmm, sweet candy dp.

  105. Dela G says:

    i loves me a DP

  106. Pete says:

    Pettitte must hate Elisbury with a passion.

  107. Accent Shallow says:

    Ellsbury: unlikeable.

  108. Moshe Mandel says:

    Question: Was Gardner squaring up to bunt on the first 3 pitches of the AB?

  109. Accent Shallow says:

    Was hoping the ump would punch Pedroia.

  110. Pete says:

    Ha, Cano can do that too, dummy.

  111. No doubt Dustin is crying.

  112. Salty Buggah says:

    Nice! Lot of deflections today.

    OK, offense. Get on base. Steal. Score. (No more stupid bunts)

  113. Dela G says:

    that was very funny to watch, but i’ll take the out

  114. JMK says:

    The logo just said, “ESPN Sunday Night Baseball”. I dont’ have Stonehenge for a wristwatch or anything, but I don’t believe this qualifies as “night”.

  115. Salty Buggah says:

    Byrd will blow up. Im sure.

  116. Dela G says:

    this is incredible…


    • whozat says:

      He’s giving byrd pitches off the plate, and not giving pettitte the bottom of the actual strike zone. I’m not asking for low strikes, I’m asking for the bottom of the zone.

  117. JMK says:

    Hit 200.

  118. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


  119. Salty Buggah says:

    200 hits for Robbie!

  120. Dela G says:

    cano with #200!

    great job

  121. Salty Buggah says:

    Now you run?!!!!!!!

  122. Pete says:

    WOW, the CAPTAIN IS BACK!!!!!! :P

  123. JGS says:

    I mean, I get that Jason Varitek sucks, but Robbie Cano is a pretty terrible base stealer

  124. JMK says:

    Varitek threw out his first batter this decade. Bad slide.

  125. Dela G says:

    damn cano!

    slide earlier!

  126. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Varitek is beginning to earn his contract