Gate 2 group disputes high preservation costs

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Proponents say Gate 2 could be saved for $1 million. (Image via Save the Yankee Gate 2 Committee)

When we last checked in with the committee working to save the old Gate 2 and incorporate it into the design of Heritage Park, the movement had seemingly hit a cost problem. A few anonymous critics of the plan had leveled the charge that the effort would cost $10 million. While a nice idea, saving old Yankee Stadium’s Gate 2 would be cost prohibitive. Plus, they said, the gate was “significantly changed” during the 1970s renovations.

Today, the group hit back. In a press release, Mark Costello and John Trush, the two men spearheading the preservation effort, claim that it would cost just $1 million to save Gate 2 and that most of the gate is original. “Assessments we have received from several architects and structural engineering firms have determined preserving Gate 2 to be a simple/straightforward project,” the release reads. “They have estimated that the expense of its restoration would be approximately $1 million, a small fraction (less than 2%) of the overall cost to build Heritage Field.”

To those decrying the originality of the gate, Costello and Trush have done their homework. “Today Gate 2 is 80 percent original, even after the 1973-76 renovations,” they say. “Historical photographs, blueprints, historians, and baseball experts confirm this originality. The small modifications made to the upper portion of the Gate are compatible with the original 1920’s design and if retained in the preserved Gate, would allow it to include elements of the 1923 construction, the 1928 expansion and the 1976 modernization.”

More vital to the effort to earn support though is the revelation that the group could defray even these relatively minimal costs through volunteer work. “Discussions with several contractors indicate their willingness to volunteer services for this effort,” they announced. “Similar to the current Polo Grounds Staircase Project, fundraising through pledges can produce additional financial options. The sale of commemorative paving bricks also has the potential to defray much of this cost.” I would buy a commemorative brick in front of the old Yankee Stadium Gate 2.

The group also commented on the need to preserve something from the Gate, a theme I touched upon last time. If the city destroys all of Yankee Stadium in their efforts to build the park, we can’t get it back once we look around and realize our baseball history is gone. The City’s Design Commission has asked the Parks Department to reevaluate their plans for Heritage Field in an effort to “capture the historical significance of the original Yankee Stadium.” Gate 2, with its minimal upkeep costs, would be the perfect vehicle for that request.

In the end, this may be a movement without a big enough sponsor. While a Daily News poll in August found 78 percent of readers would support this plan even with a $10 million price tag, no one has stepped forward from the Yankees to embrace it. Craig Calcaterra today urged A-Rod to throw his weight behind it in the form of a public commitment of support and money. The Yankees could easily make the same gesture, and if $1 million is the true cost of this plan, neither A-Rod nor the Yanks would notice the money is missing.

On Monday, the group is going to meet with the Bronx Borough President, and leaders have been trying to drum up support from other local politicians. Meanwhile, with Gate 2 currently shrouded by construction netting, time is of the essence. Will the city destroy history or will cooler heads prevail before it is too late?

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  • rbizzler

    For a million bones, this is a no-brainer. I am sure they could raise the cash easily and I have no doubt that they would be overwhelmed by volunteer support. The fanbase (rightfully so) is supremely attached to the old digs and the chance to help preserve at least some of its legacy would be welcome.

  • AJ’s Chin Music Ensemble

    SAVE IT…WE WILL ALL BE SORRY WHEN IT’S GONE. IT IS A TOTAL NO BRAINER…IF AROD WON’T CUT A CHECK, THE CAPTAIN WILL…HECK I BET EVEN TEX WOULD DO IT. THE DESIGN AND THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I DON’T KNOW WHAT WE’RE YELLING ABOUT!!!!!

      • Tom Zig

        LOUD NOISES!!!!

        • Nady Nation

          IT’S FUNNY THAT HE WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY AVOID THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON FOR HIS POSTER NAME, YET HE FELT THE NEED TO TYPE HIS WHOLE POST IN THIS MANNER.

          • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

            +1

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              YOU FORGOT… THE DRAMATIC… PAUSES…

            • jsbrendog

              I THINK YOU MEANT TO SAY PLUS ONE

              (I HAD TO THROW IN MY TWO CENTS)

      • Makavelli

        Franklin Sherman:If I’ve said it once…I’ve said it a thousand times….

        …who are all you people?

  • Bo

    I love how people like Craig Calcaterra tell people like A-Rod how to spend their hard earned money.

    • Makavelli

      I love how people like Craig Calcaterra tell people like A-Rod how to spend their hard earned money.

      You do??

      /tommiesmithjohncarlos’d

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        This will end badly.

        • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

          No. It won’t if we just end it right now.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Good idea.

          • Tom Zig

            Kabak with the kabash

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              STOP THE CATBOX!
              STOP THE CATBOX!

              • Makavelli

                The sharif don’t like it…
                Stop!…the catbox
                Stop!…the catbox

        • Makavelli

          Haha it wasn’t meant to get you going…it was a little joke I actually thought you’d chuckle at. No need for it to go anywhere else.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            No, I knew where you were going. I trust your sense of humor and you trust mine.

            You know who I don’t trust to have an appropriate sense of humor about that joke?

            http://rlv.zcache.com/im_votin.....tr_400.jpg (safe)

    • jsbrendog

      Larry Gigli: You see, after all is said and done, the only thing you can be really sure of, the only thing you can really count on in this world, is that you just never fucking know.

      • Bo

        Yea a quote from the movie “Gigli”. Great job, Brend. I guess we can lump you in with the 4 other people that actually saw it. You really know how to be on point there. lol. Hilarious

  • Tom Zig

    I doubt a-rod would notice $10 million missing either.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    My outside yet sort of inside observer’s two cents:

    If a city agency says they don’t want to do something because it will cost 10M, it will actually cost about 6M. If they say they WANT to do something because it will only cost 10M, it will cost 22M.

    If a city agency says we don’t want to do something because it will cost 10M and a private group says “No, you should do it because it will only cost 1M”, they’re both wrong, it will cost 4.75M.

    Not saying that this project should or shouldn’t happen, just saying I doubt that either end of the spectrum is the accurate figure.

  • Makavelli

    Craig Calcaterra today urged A-Rod to throw his weight behind it in the form of a public commitment of support and money. The Yankees could easily make the same gesture, and if $1 million is the true cost of this plan, neither A-Rod nor the Yanks would notice the money is missing.

    Both the Yankees and Alex Rodriguez make more than $1 million a year in interest with their money just sitting in a savings account. There are a handful of people on the Yankees that could make this move. They don’t necessarily HAVE to…but I think we would all be very grateful if they did.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      if $1 million is the true cost of this plan, neither A-Rod nor the Yanks would notice the money is missing.

      Yeah… that’s not remotely true, though.

      You ALWAYS notice when a million is missing. Even when you’re worth 1 billion.

      In fact, I’d say that someone who has 1B is probably more chapped about having to give up 1M than someone who has a thousand dollars would miss a single dollar.

      • jsbrendog

        how about jeter, arod, posada, MO, and tex wouldn’t miss $200,000 each missing?

      • Makavelli

        In fact, I’d say that someone who has 1B is probably more chapped about having to give up 1M than someone who has a thousand dollars would miss a single dollar.

        Obviously,

        But that might have more to do with the lifestyle at hand. Having $1,000 and giving up $1 won’t entirely change much of anything…you already were strapped as it is. Having $1 billion, giving up $1 million of it will sink in because that $1 million could have gone to a new yacht or a new gold plated toilet seat. And now you don’t feel as comfortable spending another $1 million because you just contributed that much to something else…

        • http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/F/-/-/-/judge310_72.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          I… was thinking the same thing as Mak.

          (Shudders)

      • http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/F/-/-/-/judge310_72.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Don’t be a jerk, TSJC. He may have said that clearly but you know he meant something else entirely.

        (Just a little joke, Mak!)

        • Makavelli

          Tried to write this earlier…the explanation of why it’s down there follows as well lol

          http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-585547

          • Bo

            You guys can join the club of telling other people how to spend their money.

            I’m sure you would love it if someone told you how to spend your paycheck.

            If they’d rather buy yachts. They should buy yachts. They dont have any duty to throw a million bucks around. And you say a million like its something small.

  • gc

    If someone can raise 2 million dollars by interrupting the President of the United States during a speech before congress by being a complete and utter a-hole, there’s no reason to believe anywhere between 1 and 10 million dollars can’t be raised by current or former Yankees players, or the universe of Yankee fans who want SOME piece of the Stadium to physically stick around for the next century and beyond.

    • A.D.

      One would think those spearheading the effort would look to raise promised funds if in fact the effort were to work.

    • Chris

      They managed to raise $600,000 to save Tiger stadium. Considering the economic situations in Detroit and New York, it shouldn’t be a big challenge to raise $1M or more for this.

    • Makavelli

      “If OJ can get away with murder…I don’t see any reason why Sonny can’t have his kid…this guy knows what I’m talking about…”

      [points to the only black guy in the court room]

  • Tom Zig

    Everyone in NYS must donate $1 to this fund immediately…or the terriosts will win.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      YOU LIE!

  • Makavelli

    I didn’t say that though haha…Ben did. It was in italics because I was taking it from Ben’s post…

    So I didn’t say it! lol

    ah ha!

    • Tom Zig

      reply fail.

    • Makavelli

      Oh geez,

      I’m on a different computer…so I had originally replied to Congressman Raul’s response above…it made me go back and put all my information in…I thought it would keep the “reply” status but clearly didn’t…

      /shrug…

      • http://z.about.com/d/tvcomedies/1/0/F/-/-/-/judge310_72.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        Mak… I know the italicized language in your first post was Ben’s and not yours, and you know what I was joking about.

        • Makavelli

          Of course I do…

        • pat

          YOU KNOW

          I GO

          PSYCHO

          WHEN MY NEW JOINTS HIT

          I JUST CAN’T SIT

          • Makavelli

            Nice contribution, pat. Keep up the good work.

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