Comments on: How Jorge was almost a Jay http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:08:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Amol http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-569608 Amol Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:49:46 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-569608 On a side note, take a look at how good that 1990 draft was. That year the Yankees managed to get a borderline hall-of-fame catcher, a great left-handed starter (Pettitte), an all-star outfielder (Carl Everett), two solid fourth outfielders (Ricky Ledee and Shane Spencer), and a replacement level major league reliever (John Wasdin). Whoever was in charge of the draft that year did a stellar job. On a side note, take a look at how good that 1990 draft was. That year the Yankees managed to get a borderline hall-of-fame catcher, a great left-handed starter (Pettitte), an all-star outfielder (Carl Everett), two solid fourth outfielders (Ricky Ledee and Shane Spencer), and a replacement level major league reliever (John Wasdin). Whoever was in charge of the draft that year did a stellar job.

]]> By: Jersey http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568860 Jersey Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:30:29 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568860 Compare <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/posadjo01.shtml" rel="nofollow">Posada's production</a> with Carlton Fisk's production through <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fiskca01.shtml#1969-1985-sum:batting_standar" rel="nofollow">his age 37 season</a>. Posada has a slight advantage in slash stats and OPS+, and a BIG advantage in walks, even though he has more than a full season fewer ABs than Fisk. Fisk's advantages in some of the counting stats can be attributed to his earlier start...though his lead isn't big in these (i.e. HRs), and Posada has more RBIs. Now granted, Fisk had eight more years, a few of which were very productive; but Posada is giving no sign of slowing down. Compare Posada’s production with Carlton Fisk’s production through his age 37 season. Posada has a slight advantage in slash stats and OPS+, and a BIG advantage in walks, even though he has more than a full season fewer ABs than Fisk. Fisk’s advantages in some of the counting stats can be attributed to his earlier start…though his lead isn’t big in these (i.e. HRs), and Posada has more RBIs.

Now granted, Fisk had eight more years, a few of which were very productive; but Posada is giving no sign of slowing down.

]]> By: Jack http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568857 Jack Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:18:13 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568857 <i>Though that bat of his would play very nicely as a 2B as well. </i> What was his defensive reputation at 2B, though? Could he have stuck there, or would he have had to move? Though that bat of his would play very nicely as a 2B as well.

What was his defensive reputation at 2B, though? Could he have stuck there, or would he have had to move?

]]> By: Mike Axisa http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568855 Mike Axisa Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:14:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568855 IETC. IETC.

]]> By: Jersey http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568849 Jersey Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:54:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568849 If Posada were calling the games, Halladay would suck. OH SNAP If Posada were calling the games, Halladay would suck. OH SNAP

]]> By: Stormrider6 http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568837 Stormrider6 Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:31:05 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568837 He is, however, not as FEARed as Bernie was. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068576/ He is, however, not as FEARed as Bernie was. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068576/

]]> By: steve (different one) http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568836 steve (different one) Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:27:35 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568836 i think it will, but a long ways down the road. if he plays another 4 years (made that up), then has a 5 year waiting period, and hangs on the ballot 5 years....that's about 15 years in the future. i have to think BY THEN there will be enough voters who can properly contextualize his offensive numbers as a catcher, and his OBP will carry him in despite the low counting stats. also, he has an outside shot at 300 HRs. i think if does that, even if the last 40 are hit as a DH, he gets in. dude has a career .860 OPS...as a catcher. he's awesome and probable the most underrated Yankee in history (with apologies to Bernie Williams). i think it will, but a long ways down the road.

if he plays another 4 years (made that up), then has a 5 year waiting period, and hangs on the ballot 5 years….that’s about 15 years in the future.

i have to think BY THEN there will be enough voters who can properly contextualize his offensive numbers as a catcher, and his OBP will carry him in despite the low counting stats.

also, he has an outside shot at 300 HRs. i think if does that, even if the last 40 are hit as a DH, he gets in.

dude has a career .860 OPS…as a catcher. he’s awesome and probable the most underrated Yankee in history (with apologies to Bernie Williams).

]]> By: The Artist http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568834 The Artist Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:25:00 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568834 Two more seasons at the same level would earn him another contract, which is mind boggling since he's already past his expiration date as a Catcher at 38 years old. Two more seasons at the same level would earn him another contract, which is mind boggling since he’s already past his expiration date as a Catcher at 38 years old.

]]> By: The Artist http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568833 The Artist Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:22:08 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568833 Check that, he broke his leg AS a Catcher. My bad. Check that, he broke his leg AS a Catcher. My bad.

]]> By: The Artist http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-jorge-was-almost-a-jay-16754/#comment-568832 The Artist Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:20:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=16754#comment-568832 Yeah, he was drafted as a 2B IIRC. Though that bat of his would play very nicely as a 2B as well. I guess we can also wonder if he the situation would have arose where he broke his leg, which prompted the move to C. Yeah, he was drafted as a 2B IIRC. Though that bat of his would play very nicely as a 2B as well.

I guess we can also wonder if he the situation would have arose where he broke his leg, which prompted the move to C.

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