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	<title>Comments on: How much is that playoff berth in the window?</title>
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		<title>By: RustyJohn</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-much-is-that-playoff-berth-in-the-window-17554/#comment-598681</link>
		<dc:creator>RustyJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot how good those early 90s Toronto teams were...damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot how good those early 90s Toronto teams were&#8230;damn.</p>
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		<title>By: RustyJohn</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-much-is-that-playoff-berth-in-the-window-17554/#comment-598678</link>
		<dc:creator>RustyJohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not poorly funded, but still dealing with the chaos Bill Bavasi left behind.  They have some 20+ million coming off the books this year and the only Bavasi dud they&#039;ll have left is Carlos Silva.  Look for the Mariners to improve while spending less thanks to the Jack Z era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not poorly funded, but still dealing with the chaos Bill Bavasi left behind.  They have some 20+ million coming off the books this year and the only Bavasi dud they&#8217;ll have left is Carlos Silva.  Look for the Mariners to improve while spending less thanks to the Jack Z era.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobbawarkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobbawarkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I don&#039;t think we should spend less.  I think others should spend more.  Don&#039;t have the market for it?  Games not selling out?  Too bad so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t think we should spend less.  I think others should spend more.  Don&#8217;t have the market for it?  Games not selling out?  Too bad so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobbawarkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jobbawarkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some owners pocket the revenue sharing instead of spending on the team  The Yankees spend on the team, spend on the team, spend on the team and pay the luxury tax and revenue sharing and don&#039;t complain.  

Selig was so proud of parity which meant he was glad to see the Yankee dynasty end.  If the Yankees win it all this year, they will have bullseyes on their pinstripes.  Others are mad that the Yankees refuse to be reigned in.  

But they play in the biggest market in baseball and there are HUGE expectations of a team that has more championships than any other sports team in the biggest market in the world.  

So when other teams have the history, the market and the expectations, and spend to meet those expectations, keep the market happy and make the history proud, there will be parity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some owners pocket the revenue sharing instead of spending on the team  The Yankees spend on the team, spend on the team, spend on the team and pay the luxury tax and revenue sharing and don&#8217;t complain.  </p>
<p>Selig was so proud of parity which meant he was glad to see the Yankee dynasty end.  If the Yankees win it all this year, they will have bullseyes on their pinstripes.  Others are mad that the Yankees refuse to be reigned in.  </p>
<p>But they play in the biggest market in baseball and there are HUGE expectations of a team that has more championships than any other sports team in the biggest market in the world.  </p>
<p>So when other teams have the history, the market and the expectations, and spend to meet those expectations, keep the market happy and make the history proud, there will be parity.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some perspective is helpful here. 

The advent of free agency did not suddenly make the Yankees the dominant team in baseball. They were, if anything, even more dominant before free agency - winning 20 WS and losing 9 in the 72-year span from 1903 to 1974. Further, all those WS appearances came after 1915, when Jacob Ruppert bought the club and started spending money on it. Sound familiar?

And there have always been teams that were perennial losers and others that enjoyed fairly consistent success. If it were all parity except for the Yankees most teams would be in the .495-.505 range over their lifetimes. 

What I&#039;m saying is that the Yankees have a financial advantage from being in NY, and if they use it they do well. Signing free agents is one way to do that, but if you cut that off the money will find another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some perspective is helpful here. </p>
<p>The advent of free agency did not suddenly make the Yankees the dominant team in baseball. They were, if anything, even more dominant before free agency &#8211; winning 20 WS and losing 9 in the 72-year span from 1903 to 1974. Further, all those WS appearances came after 1915, when Jacob Ruppert bought the club and started spending money on it. Sound familiar?</p>
<p>And there have always been teams that were perennial losers and others that enjoyed fairly consistent success. If it were all parity except for the Yankees most teams would be in the .495-.505 range over their lifetimes. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that the Yankees have a financial advantage from being in NY, and if they use it they do well. Signing free agents is one way to do that, but if you cut that off the money will find another way.</p>
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		<title>By: bottom line</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/how-much-is-that-playoff-berth-in-the-window-17554/#comment-598239</link>
		<dc:creator>bottom line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I politely stand by what I said. 

All organizations face issues of representation.  But the US Congress and the UN chose to balance sovereign power (the states, sovereing nations) with mechanisms that reflected size and population.  Baseball has in at least the last 30 years been run to reflect the interests of small market franchises.  The amatuur draft, revenue sharing, luxury tax are all designed to that end.  Only the countervailing power of the union has likely kept baseball from imposing a salary cap.

Baseball can organize itself as it chooses.  I&#039;m only saying there other models.  And baseball has  simply used majority franchise rule to  thwart the interests of large market fan bases. 

 (It would be interesting to know at one point the large markets have an absolute majority of fans-- I&#039;m guessing it might be with as few as eight teams. 

You can argue that these fans have no greater right to success.  Fine. But it&#039;s tough to deny that this is precisely the position MLB has taken.   There is simply no mechanism to enfranchise the fans of the major cities.  

And why would there be?  Baseball has been run by a man obsessed with the small market &quot;narrative.&quot;  I have sat in rooms with the man and heard directly just how parochial his viewpoint and interest are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I politely stand by what I said. </p>
<p>All organizations face issues of representation.  But the US Congress and the UN chose to balance sovereign power (the states, sovereing nations) with mechanisms that reflected size and population.  Baseball has in at least the last 30 years been run to reflect the interests of small market franchises.  The amatuur draft, revenue sharing, luxury tax are all designed to that end.  Only the countervailing power of the union has likely kept baseball from imposing a salary cap.</p>
<p>Baseball can organize itself as it chooses.  I&#8217;m only saying there other models.  And baseball has  simply used majority franchise rule to  thwart the interests of large market fan bases. </p>
<p> (It would be interesting to know at one point the large markets have an absolute majority of fans&#8211; I&#8217;m guessing it might be with as few as eight teams. </p>
<p>You can argue that these fans have no greater right to success.  Fine. But it&#8217;s tough to deny that this is precisely the position MLB has taken.   There is simply no mechanism to enfranchise the fans of the major cities.  </p>
<p>And why would there be?  Baseball has been run by a man obsessed with the small market &#8220;narrative.&#8221;  I have sat in rooms with the man and heard directly just how parochial his viewpoint and interest are.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The other factor too are the decently-funded, decently-managed teams that are seemingly spinning their wheels. Where do they fit in?&lt;/i&gt;

In that situation, shouldn&#039;t you expect to be mediocre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The other factor too are the decently-funded, decently-managed teams that are seemingly spinning their wheels. Where do they fit in?</i></p>
<p>In that situation, shouldn&#8217;t you expect to be mediocre?</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  Yeah, it wasn&#039;t.  

Seriously, though, that last paragraph was brutal.  No, baseball does not have a utilitarian need or want to reward the teams with the most fans, the bicameral nature of the US Congress is not an apt analogy or parable for baseball, and the North American pro sports leagues do not intentionally deny the interests of large market or successful franchises.  No to all of that hyperbole and dubious reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  Yeah, it wasn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Seriously, though, that last paragraph was brutal.  No, baseball does not have a utilitarian need or want to reward the teams with the most fans, the bicameral nature of the US Congress is not an apt analogy or parable for baseball, and the North American pro sports leagues do not intentionally deny the interests of large market or successful franchises.  No to all of that hyperbole and dubious reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero. I forget exactly where the money generated from it goes, but it goes to things like retirement benefits for former players. Possibly also to programs promoting baseball to kids. None of it directly effects the game on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero. I forget exactly where the money generated from it goes, but it goes to things like retirement benefits for former players. Possibly also to programs promoting baseball to kids. None of it directly effects the game on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: bottom line</title>
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		<dc:creator>bottom line</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought, the phrase beginning &quot;a train-wreck...&quot; isn&#039;t a mixed metaphor. Dubious, maybe, but not mixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, the phrase beginning &#8220;a train-wreck&#8230;&#8221; isn&#8217;t a mixed metaphor. Dubious, maybe, but not mixed.</p>
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