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		<title>By: The Three Amigos</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/not-a-peep-out-of-hank-16854/#comment-573936</link>
		<dc:creator>The Three Amigos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that Hal is letting cashman do his thing and only chiming in on the big things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that Hal is letting cashman do his thing and only chiming in on the big things.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Lou</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/not-a-peep-out-of-hank-16854/#comment-573766</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could you trade Jay Buhner!?! He&#039;s got a rocket for an arm!  You don&#039;t know what the hell your doing!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could you trade Jay Buhner!?! He&#8217;s got a rocket for an arm!  You don&#8217;t know what the hell your doing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Zig</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/09/not-a-peep-out-of-hank-16854/#comment-573653</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Zig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean like the whole A-rod contract fiasco?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean like the whole A-rod contract fiasco?</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the guy count his money and smoke his cigarettes in peace.</description>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank was never George.  He had quotes that seemed goofy, but not angry.  There was no bite behind the bark.  I think Hal has been running things on the business side from day one, and Hank was supposed to be the go-to go for the media.  Once they saw that wasn&#039;t working too well, it was killed, and so was Hank&#039;s role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank was never George.  He had quotes that seemed goofy, but not angry.  There was no bite behind the bark.  I think Hal has been running things on the business side from day one, and Hank was supposed to be the go-to go for the media.  Once they saw that wasn&#8217;t working too well, it was killed, and so was Hank&#8217;s role.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it was trade for johan or pay the same to cc in a year and not give up any procpects&lt;/i&gt;

I understand that aspect of it all, but, that totally doesn&#039;t fit the behavior pattern I was pointing out.

Saying &quot;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#039;m moving on&quot;, then making an offer to a free agent on Thursday makes sense.

Saying &quot;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#039;m moving on&quot;, then not making an offer to a free agent until next offseason doesn&#039;t make sense.

Saying &quot;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#039;m moving on&quot;, doing nothing on Thursday, then saying &quot;Sorry to late&quot; when you get a call on Friday about the trade offer makes no sense.

Hence why I pulled Pettitte into it. That makes the stance make sense. And yes, you can extend that to trade for Santana in &#039;08 OR sign Pettite in &#039;08 and try for Sabathia in &#039;09.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it was trade for johan or pay the same to cc in a year and not give up any procpects</i></p>
<p>I understand that aspect of it all, but, that totally doesn&#8217;t fit the behavior pattern I was pointing out.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#8217;m moving on&#8221;, then making an offer to a free agent on Thursday makes sense.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#8217;m moving on&#8221;, then not making an offer to a free agent until next offseason doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;accept my trade offer by Wednesday or I&#8217;m moving on&#8221;, doing nothing on Thursday, then saying &#8220;Sorry to late&#8221; when you get a call on Friday about the trade offer makes no sense.</p>
<p>Hence why I pulled Pettitte into it. That makes the stance make sense. And yes, you can extend that to trade for Santana in &#8217;08 OR sign Pettite in &#8217;08 and try for Sabathia in &#8217;09.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you say, tubby.</description>
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		<title>By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok cool.  All the X&#039;s and Y&#039;s were making me dizzy, anyway.  Calzone time.

PS:  While I was not in the same camp as those fans you mentioned (I didn&#039;t want the Yanks to make the Santana deal at the time), and while they were annoying as f*ck back then, that particular statement of theirs wasn&#039;t really so wrong.  They were right in the sense that the sure thing, at the time, was to grab Santana, because nobody knew that Sabathia would be available or, even if he became available, that he would sign with the Yankees, or that he&#039;d even be healthy and effective by the time he became available... Whatever, point being, they were kinda right, the Yankees took a risk.  It just happens to be a risk many of us were happy they took at the time and now we&#039;re all happy they took.  I don&#039;t even know that they were falling prey to the fallacy of the predetermined outcome (other than those who were just sure in the offseason between the 2007 and 2008 seasons, for no reason, that the Yankees would not sign Sabathia prior to the 2009 season).  They were just wrong about the risk/reward aspects of the whole situation, they were so scared of what might happen in the future that they were willing to trade away too many of the Yankees&#039; financial and personnel assets in a gambit to give them a security blanket.  So, I guess I kinda don&#039;t think they were in a &#039;fallacy of predetermined outcome&#039; situation as much as they were in a &#039;bunch of dumb pansies&#039; situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok cool.  All the X&#8217;s and Y&#8217;s were making me dizzy, anyway.  Calzone time.</p>
<p>PS:  While I was not in the same camp as those fans you mentioned (I didn&#8217;t want the Yanks to make the Santana deal at the time), and while they were annoying as f*ck back then, that particular statement of theirs wasn&#8217;t really so wrong.  They were right in the sense that the sure thing, at the time, was to grab Santana, because nobody knew that Sabathia would be available or, even if he became available, that he would sign with the Yankees, or that he&#8217;d even be healthy and effective by the time he became available&#8230; Whatever, point being, they were kinda right, the Yankees took a risk.  It just happens to be a risk many of us were happy they took at the time and now we&#8217;re all happy they took.  I don&#8217;t even know that they were falling prey to the fallacy of the predetermined outcome (other than those who were just sure in the offseason between the 2007 and 2008 seasons, for no reason, that the Yankees would not sign Sabathia prior to the 2009 season).  They were just wrong about the risk/reward aspects of the whole situation, they were so scared of what might happen in the future that they were willing to trade away too many of the Yankees&#8217; financial and personnel assets in a gambit to give them a security blanket.  So, I guess I kinda don&#8217;t think they were in a &#8216;fallacy of predetermined outcome&#8217; situation as much as they were in a &#8216;bunch of dumb pansies&#8217; situation.</p>
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		<title>By: jsbrendog</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsbrendog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no but she is racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no but she is racist.</p>
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